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- But then how come Legendary Motorsports states that there are only 10 in existence, even during online mode?
- R* simply forgot to change the description
- Confirmed. In the end, depending on your choices, Michael will become more caring toward his family and also aware of his actions to his friends, especially Trevor. In addition, Trevor also becomes more trusting on Michael and eventually forgives him.
- Semi-confirmed, I guess? The San Andreas that appeared in GTA San Andreas might be different geographically than GTA V's San Andreas, since they belong in different universes. (GTA San Andreas belongs to the 3D Universe, while GTA V belongs to the HD Universe.)
- Likely, but I don't see him becoming a bad guy, but instead going up and down the Anti-Hero scale. Face–Heel Turn? Less likely. Heel–Face Revolving Door? Much more likely I think.
- Jossed, but he came close more than once.
- Jossed. Kinda. There is an ending that has Micheal get killed by Franklin, but not for the reason stated.
- Nothing said about this but your online protagonist can certainly be.
- Jossed
- Kind of. They aren't killed, but they come damn close, and the attack on them is what ultimately makes it personal for Michael.
- Or the local Clucking Bells are fronts for drug distribution.
- Jossed in the main game, although several online missions feature mobile meth-lab RVs as objectives.
- Or, they're pretty much evil expies of the three characters, without any of the restraints or tact the heroes have. Even Trevor is implied to have a Morality Pet or two (Word of God has already confirmed he has a Conspiracy Theorist best friend), so it's likely the Big Bads will be shown to BRUTALLY subvert Even Evil Has Loved Ones, and may even threaten to go after the family of the characters. Assuming there is a choice to make at the end of the game (outside of which character survives a Mexican Standoff Mêlée à Trois), will be whether they abandon crime to try to stay with their family, or abandon their family to continue a life of crime - either way, it'll be a Bittersweet Ending at best, leaning more towards Downer Ending, and odds are they won't get away with the mass-murdering, bank-robbing havoc that was raised in the game either way.
- Confirmed on the members of the Big Bad Ensemble each being a Shadow Archetype to the Power Trio: Devin Weston is the Corrupt Corporate Executive Smug Snake to Michael, Steve Haines is The Sociopath FIB interrogator to Trevor, and Stretch is the Jerkass Gangbanger to Franklin.
- Trevor actually gets two; Steve Haines is a reflection of his sociopathic tendencies, while Wei Chang is the head of an international criminal organization- everything Trevor wishes himself to be.
- Michael's family does get held hostage by Merryweather after Michael ruined one of Devin Weston's deals, but he manages to save them, also there is a Mexican Standoff between the IAA, the corrupt faction of the FIB(at least moreso then Dave Norton), Merryweather and Michael and Norton together.
- The best ending is actually pretty happy, Michael, Franklin and Trevor tie up all their loose ends, the former and the latter finally resolve their differences and the characters all get the chance to live better lives and do manage to get away with all the mayhem they caused. Though the other two endings are rather different in tone, the ending where you kill Michael is a Downer Ending, with Michael angry and hurt that Franklin sold him out after he cared for him and Franklin clearly expressing regret and calling Lamar and asking him to hang out while sounding distraught. The ending where you kill Trevor is a Bitter Sweet Ending, Trevor is angry that Franklin turned on him like Michael did, and while Franklin expresses regret at killing him, Michael justifies it, saying that Trevor's Ax Crazy personality would have gotten them all killed.
- Confirmed. Franklin has a choice to either kill Micheal, Trevor, or have a "deathwish" and kill neither. The best ending is the "deathwish" ending where nobody dies.
- Kinda complicated, but the gist is there: Franklin is tasked with either killing Michael or Trevor. The Take a Third Option is for the three to gang up on the Big Bad Ensemble, and kill them instead.
- So, semi-confirmed.
- Jossed
- Adding to this, the person to give you the mission may very well be CJ.
- Rockstar has said no characters from the III-era games will appear.
- Well, with Franklin's new trailer, it seems that he's wrapped up with a gang in Grove Street Green, while fighting gang-bangers in Ballas Purple - in my opinion, this is too much to be a coincidence. So even if the Johnson Brothers or other Grove Street OGs don't show up, they'll probably get a lot of Shout Outs and Continuity Nods in the game.
- Confirmed. Franklin and Lamar are members of the GSF, though only loosely associated. The Ballas are also still around, though at least at the start of the game, the two gangs no longer have serious beef.
- Semi-Confirmed: They're members of The Families, but a different branch - and Grove Street itself is Ballas turf.
- Ultimately Jossed. The Grove Street Families did exist at one point in this continuity, and the Johnson family was still apparently the head of GSF, but they've long since moved on, and are to some degree, Shrouded in Myth, with neither Lamar nor Franklin being entirely clear on what happened to them.
- Rockstar has said no characters from the III-era games will appear.
- At least semi-Confirmed: the Multiplayer trailer shows you definitely have female characters to select from.
- Confirmed. You absolutely can create a female character in Online.
- Semi-Jossed: Michael's his real name, his LAST name was changed (Townley -> De Santa)
- Confirmed. The prologue shows what happened.
- Confirmed. Once with her Tennis Instructor, twice with her "yoga" instructor, and the pool boy, ad a guy pretending to be Jesus; you can find him at the beach. There is more but I forget the rest.
- Jossed. It's Stretch. Hell, he doesn't even become The Dragon, but the Sixth Ranger for the Power Trio.
- Jossed: In the "Kill Mike" ending, Michael gets killed just after he turns his life around. In the others, not so much.
- Jossed.
- There should an "Old West exhibit" with a picture of John's farm, while another exhibit has a framed newspaper mentioning a certain "Detective Phelps".
- I always thought Red Dead takes place in the GTA universe, and Marston is a historical character like Jesse James. I think it would be pretty funny to have a movie poster advertising "John Marston: Zombie Hunter". Bonus points if Marston looks very different in the movie poster and is wielding an AK-47.
- However, as evidenced by at least one side mission, the state of California exists in the universe of RDR, whereas in the GTA universe it's known as San Andreas. Any connection between the games will likely be in the form of Broad Strokes not unlike the continuity of the radio stations.
- To be fair, Miami existed in GTA III before becoming Vice City. On the flip side, I'm fairly sure Texas is mentioned a few times across the GTA franchise where as in RDR it's "New Austin".
- New York is also referred to as such in RDR, not as "Liberty City."
- Confirmed. There is a neat little mural you can find.
- In addition, when creating your multiplayer character its possible to choose "John Marston" as your father (using this option locks out your paternal grandparents in your heritage)
- If anything, it would be Niko Bellic (leaving the events of "Mr. and Mrs. Bellic" ambiguous), or Packie McReary (since he is seen boarding a plane at the end of The Ballad of Gay Tony)
- It's been confirmed that both Niko (15th image down) and Packie (21st question down) will not be returning.
- Packie McReary is in GTAV, but he's hidden- you have to do a side-mission to unlock him for heists.
- Niko I can buy, but the way they straight-up said "Packie's not in it" without any prompting as to whether he'll specifically be in the game by the question seems like a Suspiciously Specific Denial. Even more so since they haven't stated any reason why he WOULDN'T be in the game (since he isn't one of the people who could live OR die based on Niko's actions)
- Yeah, I agree with you about Packie. When I read the article, I also thought it was weird that they immediately stated that Packie wasn't in the game even though they weren't directly asked about just him. And as it turns out, they were lying and he really is in the game!
- The game does make a few references to "an Eastern European guy" who shook things up in Liberty City before going quiet. Packie reckons Niko's dead, but he could have just as easily retired, which he was planning to do after settling things with his enemies.
- Karen (AKA "Michelle") also shows up.
- If anything, it would be Niko Bellic (leaving the events of "Mr. and Mrs. Bellic" ambiguous), or Packie McReary (since he is seen boarding a plane at the end of The Ballad of Gay Tony)
- Or Jimmy ends up being The Load that nearly blows a mission or two. Hopefully he's not made into a scrappy cause of this.
- Confirmed, both have missions centered around them, you save Jimmy from some guys stealing Michael's Yacht and humiliate Lazlow after he tries to force himself on Tracy while auditioning for Fame Or Shame. You can also get phone calls from them and Amanda for optional missions which you have the choice to accept or disregard
- Nope. Same guy.
- Presumably to make an Evil Lawyer Joke on top of infidelity?
- Jossed: It's her "Tennis Instructor".
- Assuming San Firreo appears, we could be treated to a shot of Daniel Lamb moving into his new home.
- Gary Smith will appear as a minor character; he will be a pathetic Big Bad Wannabe, with a Dragon-in-Chief, who becomes The Dragon to the real Big Bad. He will be killed in the most Anti Climactic way possible, and it will probably be Played for Laughs.
- There will be news coverage of Victor Branco's operations.
- There will be an In-Universe documentary about the events of Red Dead Redemption, entitled The Rise and Fall of Abraham Reyes, or The Truth About Edgar Ross.
- You can find a book titled "Red Dead" written by J. Marston. So there's that.
- An elderly Roy Earle will make an appearance and get killed by one of the protagonists.
- The Cartel: They will be major antagonists, if not the Big Bad.
- Simultaneously confirmed and Jossed at the same time. The Cartel appears, and they are set up as the big bad, but the end up being a Red Herring.
- The Mafia: One character from the mob GTAIV in shows up and gets killed.
- Yakuza: Just because I think that would be cool.
- The Triads and the Tongs
- A Triad appears as part of Trevor's storyline.
- Since Ride to Hell: Retribution was originally meant to be a Wide-Open Sandbox, featured a Badass Biker that looks like he was ripped out of the Lost MC, and was universally panned by critics, expect a lot of cheap shots at that, especially with the Lost MC in the Blaine County region.
- So far the closest thing I can see to a dig at Ride to Hell is Trevor slaughtering the Lost.
- Well...There is a mission where a high-as-balls Micheal has to defend himself from aliens, wielding a minigun, as a purple mist surrounds him...
- Since Ride to Hell: Retribution was originally meant to be a Wide-Open Sandbox, featured a Badass Biker that looks like he was ripped out of the Lost MC, and was universally panned by critics, expect a lot of cheap shots at that, especially with the Lost MC in the Blaine County region.
- A playable female protagonist.
- If there is a playable female, there will be a sidequest in which we're forced to go undercover at the Vanilla Unicorn as a stripper and complete a dancing minigame.
- Hopefully, it'll be an assassination mission where the protagonist kill the Straw Misogynist target at the end, just for the sake of Rockstar not getting any more anti-feminist heat than they already have. Or at the very least have the girl be a HUGE Deadpan Snarker who is NOT enjoying herself at all.
- If there is a playable female, there will be a sidequest in which we're forced to go undercover at the Vanilla Unicorn as a stripper and complete a dancing minigame.
- A chapter involving a more direct conflict with Martin Madrazo, seeing as he's characterized like a usual GTA antagonist.
- San Fierro and Las Venturas being added, with them being more accurately recaptured this time.
- Revolvers
- Some more elaboration on the Mexican gang that Trevor took down, like the O Neal brothers they return to get revenge on Trevor and potentially team up with Martin Madrazzo.
- A supernatural themed story DLC, mabye a major plot point being Jolene Cranley-Evans.
- Or an alien invasion or a zombie apocalypse
- Or a From Dusk Till Dawn plot; heist gone wrong, guys flee south of the boarder to loose the heat, stumble into some nasty's nest that may or may not be vampires.
- It'll involve a plethora of supernatural creatures (Vampires, Ghosts, Werewolves), with the characters hunting them because people will pay good money for proof of these things, and the final mission will involve with a Jade Mask that creates zombies, and it'll end with Trevor revealing that he was bitten, and then Michael and Franklin admit that's the case with them too.
Trevor: I got bitten. Who cares?Michael: Funny story. I got bitten too.Franklin: Dammit, so did I.- Or a Fur Against Fang story type story. I can see Trevor in a Dog Soldiers type mission with his friends, Trevor Phillips Interprises fighting off a pack of werewolves in a trailer park, and a mission where Michael has to save Tracy from being reqruited or killed by a coven of vampires that she fell for, haven't thought of a subplot for Franklin and Lamar though. The end will have the Power Trio going up against the Alpha's of several packs and a Volturi expy.
- The Families are under the scope of an alien invasion, but Franklin is the only one available and competent enough to fight them back. The finale will be a xeno-were-vamp superfusion boss, just for the hell of it.
- Or an alien invasion or a zombie apocalypse
- A heist of a Las Venturas mega-casino, like Ocean's Eleven. After all, what game can be built all around The Caper, and not have a heist set in a Las Vegas expy?
- While we're at it, a Heist inspired by Die Hard. Both will, of course, come with Michael admitting that he Saw It in a Movie Once.
- More weapons like a flamethrower, AA-12 or a harpoon gun.
- More heist members like maybe Niko Bellic?
- We already have one member of the McReary family, so it's fitting that we should see Gerry again, Packie hears that he's been transfered to the federal prison in Blaine County, so he and the gang decide to break him out.
- More vehicles like Supercars and such.
- More radio content; songs, talkshows, and comercials.
- More properties- a major complaint with the game is how owning property doesn't get you any money. A DLC pack will not only fix that, but give you more to spend that money on.
- A storyline involving Michael's stolen boat, which will be a macguffin on the level of the diamonds from GTA IV and the episodes.
- Don Percival, the CEO of Merryweather will become the Big Bad of the next DLC as he tries to get revenge for all of their personal killed by the gang, after they confront him, they can choose to either kill him or expose all of his crimes against humanity on the world news leading to his arrest.
- Carl Johnson, having achieved power on a level similar to Frank Lucas or Damon Pope. He'll represent the third option compared to Mike and Johnny K, regarding the GTA protagonist who's "won the game." I know they've said he's dead in the HD continuity, but they can always change their mind on that.
- Why leave it at Carl ? I'd like the see the trio work for an aged Tommy Vercetti.
- Hell, let's combine the two. Carl and Tommy have become business associates/rivals over the last twenty years and the trio will work for both of them, and ultimately be forced to make a sadistic choice on which one to kill for the other.
- Why leave it at Carl ? I'd like the see the trio work for an aged Tommy Vercetti.
- Going with one of the above guesses, a Battle: Los Angeles themed DLC. I can definitely see a mission involving Michael having to take his family to a safe zone, with this conversation ensuing.Tracy: What the hell- are those UFOs? Are you fucking kidding me?!Amanda: Calm down, honey! I'm sure the government will probably think of something.Michael: The government?! What are they going to do, have the president lead a squad of jet fighters against their mothership?!Amanda: Jimmy, wh- what have you been smoking?
- And from the perspectives of the other characters, Trevor and his buddies at "Trevor Phillips Enterprises" would be fending them off in a B-Movie "Aliens invade the Trailer Park" theme, while Franklin and Lamar are forced into some Teeth-Clenched Teamwork with a crew of Ballas that have members eerily similar to another gang flying purple flags... and maybe a Take That, Scrappy! where Franklin's aunt gets abducted. And Michael working with David Nortan on keeping order in Los Santos. The trio will be given heist missions on raiding Military Labs, and mabye even the Mothership itself.
- Also to be expected: actors from and fans of the TV shows (Impotent Rage, Republican Space Rangers, etc.) using the shtick from their shows to fight the aliens, the strangers and freaks who believed in aliens being less crazy than they seemed, and Cris Fromage and the Epsilon Program to be the major human antagonist, if not the Big Bad themselves. Another major antagonist will be Steve Haines, using his FIB influence to force Martial law and control the surviving population.
- If anything, it'll be the U.L. Paper guy, as the IAA are better candidates for an antagonistic government force with Aliens involved. Also, there's the fact his "death" in the "Wrap Up" shootout is unconfirmed to be canon (and if it is, he can easily clone himself), whereas this ending (hopefully) takes place after Ending C, where Trevor kills Steve Haines.
- And while we're at it, why not have Johnnny Klebitz brought Back from the Dead this time, in order to make a dig at how Saints Row touted around the fact they ressurected a character also named Johnny... Hell, they could use that as revenge for the #GAT_V debacle. #Johnny_GTA
- The question is how could he come back ? its not like a alien abducted him when Trevor smashed his head in.
- More freaks and strangers sidequests, for example one guy wants you to kill off a hate group disguising themselves as a church called the Eastboro Baptist Church, no points for guessing who they would be an Expy of.
- A DLC dealing with the boy's romantic lives. Perhaps something as simple as the boys(sans Michael) being able to invite the girls from the Unicorn back to their place and those romances developing a little more(whether into actual friends with benefits or full blown gold digger status), or something more detailed, with Amanda and Michael continuing to work out their issues, Trevor and Mary-Ann finally getting together, and Franklin meeting a nice girl to share that big ass house with.
- To expand more on this for the character: Michael becomes an agent and one of his clients is an Expy of Lindsay Lohan who is trying to turn her life around(either Poppy Mitchell or a rival to her), Michael wants to help her make a career comeback. Soon he becomes close to her after helping her deal with things like Paparazzi, her exploitive parents and backstabbing lawyers and corrupt judges and seriously he considers starting a relationship with her(due to him having another argument with Amanda over their unexciting sex life), only for her to talk him out of it, Amanda catches them together and assumes the worst, after being told the truth, she calms down and surprises Michael by asking the woman to join her with Michael in a threesome to spice up their sex lives.
- Franklin is depressed over Taneesha to the point where he finally sleeps with Tonya and tries to start a relationship with her, but because of JB and Franklin not sharing her feelings it doesn't work out, soon by chance he runs into another woman who turns out to be an undercover cop trying to get info on the Grove Street families, she develops feelings for Franklin and debates on whether to bring in his gang or leave them alone, you get a multiple choice where you can either sell out the gang to her in exchange for immunity or convince her to leave the gang alone and stay with Franklin
- Trevor starts dating Mary-Ann and while they have fun together, they're clearly not suited for a relationship with one another and are fuck-buddies at best. Then Travor gets attacked by the remnants of the Mexican gang he took out before, who are now teamed up with Madrazzo. Later on the gang betrays Madrazzo and leaves him for dead. Trevor gets worried about Patricia when she stops calling and goes to Martin who tells him she was taken by the leader of the other gang and with his dying breath tells Trevor to save her. Trevor then takes down the rest of the gang and has a showdown with their leader, who is like Trevor in terms of violent personality, and unlike Trevor has zero redeeming qualities, Trevor gives him the most brutal death of all and re-unites with Patricia, moving into Madrazzo's house.
- More safehouses and maybe, newer clothes.
- Missions where you play as Lamar.
- A series of missions where you take down Kris and the entire Epsilon group once and for all.
- A story where one character you were sure was dead turns out to have faked their own death- Molly to be specific. Turns out she used an elaborate Criss Angel-esque magic trick to fake her own death and she's really an undercover cop who was planning on exposing Weston, but had to fake her own death after he started getting suspicious. With him dead, she decides to go after Martin Madrazzo and the cartel, through chance she ends up running into Franklin whom she talks into being quiet about her "death", soon the two start dating and become close, after Franklin helps her take down the cartel, he has a choice of whether to continue seeing her or not.
- Karen turns out to have survived the shootout and is revealed to be a triple agent(pretending to be Michelle and also pretending to be Karen in order to infiltrate UNLP) and she only was doing the torture due to being in very deep cover. With the IAA under scrutiny following the shootout between them Merryweather and the FIB, she decides to get out and convinces the protagonists to help her take down Don Percival in exchange for getting the IAA off their backs.
- A DLC chapter having Luis Lopez open up a new club of the Maisonette 9 franchise, giving both a new angle of a GTA protagonist "winning" the game (i.e., trying to stay legit as a nightclub owner), and giving closure to what happened after the events of The Ballad of Gay Tony (since we've confirmed details of Grand Theft Auto IV and The Lost and The Damned). May or may not end with a heist on a rival nightclub that Rocco was seen in "Mr. Richards", sadly absent a boss fight with the guido douchebag, but potentially rife with comedic lines over how he went down like a little bitch.
- For the record, Luis wouldn't be a fourth playable character, but basically as the Mission Control for the DLC quests while operating from his nightclub, like how Toni Cipriani gave jobs to Claude from his Italian restaurant. Perhaps he'll get down and dirty towards The Climax, but his character arc in The Ballad of Gay Tony will have him trying to keep his hands clean for once...
- A DLC starring Johnny K, that starts with him waking up at the hospital after Trevor "killed" him.
- A parallel story where you play as one of the heist crew members. Likely candidates would include Packie, Taliana, Eddie Toh, and Gustavo, since they're all legitimate badasses who do their parts exceptionally well. They would be having their own adventures in San Andreas, which would intersect with the main trio's when they get hired for the assorted heists. These missions could potentially let you experience their Offscreen Moments of Awesome, such as the time when Packie singlehandedly held off the military during the Paleto Score, or when Taliana secured an ambulance for the Bureau Raid.
- A pack where you do police work as Michael, Franklin, and Trevor (who would lampshade how out of character it is).
- A new episode of the Underbelly of Paradise hosted by Dave Norton.
- A series of missions where you take down Martin Madrazzo once and for all. Before you can kill him, however, you need to get through his bodyguard: Your GTA Online character.
- A DLC taking place in North Yankton shortly before the prologue, where you control Michael and Trevor, with Brad replacing Franklin as the third character, completing new missions together. The final mission would be a Nintendo Hard heist, specifically, the heist from the prologue, now retconned to be far more difficult and complex.
- GTA V netted over a billion dollars in one day. You bet there's going to be more of it. It was suggested there would be a female Player Character. And each game hints at or does away with what was shown previously (Tommy's gang are from Liberty, Ken and Kent Paul end up in San Andreas, the three storylines in GTA IV interconnect, the Ballas had fought back and taken over Grove Street, and Johnny is killed by Trevor. With Sons of Anarchy still riding high why wouldn't Ashley be in a future game. She has every reason in the world to be. And were it for GTA VI it would be a way to kill off Trevor, Michael and Franklin as revenge for killing Johnny.
- That'd be quite a challenge for her, considering WEASEL news claims she dies of an overdose in a crack orgy after Johnny's death.
- Really? Shit. Maybe Rockstar really hate the Sons, or Ride to Hell, or given the characters anyone who is mildly sympathetic. Still, with Weasel being an analogue of Fox news maybe they got it wrong, at least I hope they do.
- That's ONLY if you actually kill her as Trevor after the cutscene with Johnny, otherwise she is not mentioned on the news.
- Um. No. If you don't kill her yourself, the news reports on it much later - sometime around the Armored Car Heist.
- That's not to say a member of the Lost that wasn't seen in GTA V (or a relative of one of them members who died) wouldn't want to get revenge on Trevor (and only Trevor: Michael and Franklin haven't done anything against the Lost, and wouldn't be targeted by them unless they tried to defend Trevor).
- That could well make an interesting DLC. Since whether or not you kill each other was part of the ending the idea of whether Michael and Franklin have to kill Trevor to get Ashley, or if not her then The Lost off their backs could be played with. If you want a little more detail, random attacks by tough bikers that get the police on your backs, attempts to get the crew arrested and punished by the gang in prison, and the player can call at any time to arrange a hit on Trevor. The idea would be to get Ashley or The Lost to leave them alone, or find a way to neutralize them so they can't be touched.
- Semi-Jossed. One of the 'bad endings' involves killing Trevor.
- This is going under the idea that the "Kill Trevor" ending is non-Canon. Assuming it is (or the next game has a mechanic of borrowing save data a la Mass Effect), the mission will change to finding how Trevor went down, or getting Revenge by Proxy on his associates in "Trevor Phillips Enterprises".
- Houston, Texas. If there is one thing Rockstar loves, it's making fun of the right wing, especially hicks and rednecks. Houston's a port town with a lot of gang and drug activity (though a surprisingly low murder rate), with the possibility for a latino protagonist, a Cartel or oil baron Big Bad, and lots and lots of Red Dead Redemption shout outs.
- As someone from Houstonnote , this trooper can confirm their is a lot of drug use, and the streets would be awful fun to race through. Though, considering Houston is a fairly liberal city in Texas, either their would be serious Flanderization going on, or they would possibly use Dallas or some equivalent.
- Or maybe, featuring Dallas, Houston and San Antonio, all at once?
- Chicago, Illinois. After GTA V's stay in Los Santos, Rockstar may want to get away from the boarder and head somewhere colder. Chicago's a city steeped in mob tradition with a lot of famous landmarks to create fictional equivalents of, along with the wonderful contradiction of having zero gunstores and one of the highest shooting rates in the country. If set in winter, the snow and wind could make for very interesting car chases.
- London, England. It will be the company's returning to its home roots via its country of origin.
- Didn't realise Edinburgh was in England...
- They're both in the UK, so yeah, doing London (the capital of the UK) is their country of Origin
- Try telling that to a Scotsman. Granted, Scottish cities might not have the variety that most GTA cities need, but I highly doubt Rockstar considers London their country's capital.
- Hawaii. The same tropical feel that Vice City is beloved for, with the additions of jungles, mountains and volcanos (just imagine a mission that ends with you throwing an enemy into an active volcano). And with the addition of diving and submarines to the series, they could go hog wild with all that ocean. Perhaps they could even work in a surfing minigame.
- Atlanta, Georgia
- Capital City being the fictionalized version of Washington DC
- Las Venturas (the GTA universe equivalent of Las Vegas). It was first seen in GTA:SA, but has not yet been depicted in the HD era. The towering casinos and neon lights could look really amazing on a next-gen console, and it's also a good setting for a crime-themed game due to its "sin city" reputation. It would also be easy for Rockstar to fit gambling mini games into the title.
- Also there could be Riverboat casinos and/or Indian casinos(which are quite common in Southern California) and you could get heist missions for both.
- Vice City (the GTA universe equivalent of Miami). Obviously first seen in GTA:VC and likewise not depicted as of yet in the HD era. Miami would serve as the main city, while the open world parts would have equivalents to the Everglades, and potentially a stand-in for Havana, Cuba. Also, one of the carjacking victim quotes is "Screw this! I'm moving to Vice City!", which provides some Foreshadowing the way a quote from GTA:IV does: "God, I want to go back to San Andreas soooo bad!"
- Alternatively, they could go the San Andreas route and expand VC into a "Vice State" with multiple cities and towns. God knows there's more than enough craziness in the rest of Florida to fill a GTA game. The obvious additions (besides Miami) are Orlando and Tampa; the former would be worth a visit just to see what Rockstar would do to Disney, while the latter could feature a new plot delving deeper into the Epsilon Program (Scientology's real-life "Spiritual HQ" is in Clearwater, just west of Tampa). Cottonmouth could be based on Tampa and St. Mickeysburg would be the name for Rockstar's own Orlando.
- The boys at rockstar seem to consider what they tried with San Andreas an over ambitious failure, at least in terms of world building. Maybe the next gen consoles (the next GTA game will almost surely be the PS4/Xbox One/Nintendo Switch (we already got L.A. Noire being made) in the fiture) will give them the confidence to try again, but someho, I doubt it.
- The over-ambition thing seems to stem more from trying to stick three very different cities (San Francisco, Las Vegas, Los Angeles) into something coherent against a narrative that focused primarily on Los Angeles gang culture, which didn't quite work. A theoretical 'Vice State' based primarily on big Florida cities would probably work out a lot better, if the game manages to focus on Florida as whole. GTA V technically combined two regions (Blaine and Los Santos), and it worked fairly well because the narrative was about both those sides of California/San Andreas. Also, If they decide to bring back multiple protagonists, a three city narrative would probably be much easier to execute this time around.
- I feel like this one is right. And, I have a sinking suspicion that GTA 7 will go to somewhere else like Seattle and GTA 8 will go to San Andreas. It'd be a straight up miracle if they actually went somewhere new.
- Confirmed!
- Alternatively, they could go the San Andreas route and expand VC into a "Vice State" with multiple cities and towns. God knows there's more than enough craziness in the rest of Florida to fill a GTA game. The obvious additions (besides Miami) are Orlando and Tampa; the former would be worth a visit just to see what Rockstar would do to Disney, while the latter could feature a new plot delving deeper into the Epsilon Program (Scientology's real-life "Spiritual HQ" is in Clearwater, just west of Tampa). Cottonmouth could be based on Tampa and St. Mickeysburg would be the name for Rockstar's own Orlando.
- A New Orleans-inspired city would be another interesting choice. New Orleans is a place that combines American, French, and African cultures to create a city unlike anywhere else on Earth. And you just know that Rockstar wouldn't be able to resist making a gameplay mechanic or minigame where you hold up beads to make girls flash their breasts at you during Mardi Gras.
- A Philadelphia inspired City would be cool too.
- A Seattle-inspired City would be great as well. We can even visit parts of Canada in some missions, as well as some forests and other things surrounded in that City.
- Aside from what happens between the Lost and Trevor, there's a mission with Franklin after he buys the cab company where he takes a guy to a showdown with the Lost; the entire ride is a discussion between the two about how pathetic bikers really are, about how they're cowards, wannabe tough guys, and about how stupid their wardrobe is.
- That, or they think Ride to Hell: Retribution has poisoned the Badass Biker well for everyone, and is killing them off as Revenge by Proxy.
- I think Ride To Hell was released too late into GTA V's production to really have that kind of affect. And really, The Lost and the Damned itself was a long take that to the Badass Biker, with it's downer ending and deconstruction of the outlaw lifestyle. GTA V isn't the start of Rockstar's crusade against badass bikers, just the final nail in the coffin.
- That, or one of the developer's wives or girlfriends left him for a biker.
- That, or they think Ride to Hell: Retribution has poisoned the Badass Biker well for everyone, and is killing them off as Revenge by Proxy.
- I'd like to say he's a distant relative to Wade Wilson - gives some room for a crossover, y'know?
In Niko's case, Packie could lure him to a trap in Los Santos after having discovered that he was responsible for the death of one of his brothers and also blame him for destroying his family (much more so if the Revenge ending is canon). Niko, never having fully gotten over the death of Roman/Kate, turned into a completely broken mess over the past five years and wouldn't bother trying to fight back.
- Well, it's just my own favoritism speaking in that I like to think of Niko as the biggest badass in the franchise; even Johnny K seemed to think so. So with that in mind I'd prefer Niko be the force that the trio in this game can't escape.
- Considering how much Niko is hinted at in the game (Lester's reference to him, his Life Invader page), I don't think they'd just throw away Niko so easily like they did with Johnny. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a single-player DLC expansion in the future that might be him getting back into the crime business, or maybe a pre-GTA V story which involves him teaming up with Luis and a third.
- I assumed Niko ended up like Michael, with Lester saying "He went quiet" and Packie assumeing he's dead, my guess, Niko went into witness protection like Michael and settled down with a wife (let's say Kate if the Deal ending is canon). My guess, Niko made a deal with the IAA contact or Karen, similar to Michael's deal with Dave. After the trouble between the trio and the IAA, Karen or whoever forces Niko out of retirement to retaliate. After a few encounters, Niko becomes their ally and a fourth playable character.
- For some reason, I think it's more Trevor having an Oedipus Complex on top of the abandonment issues - or perhaps the "motherfucker" insult stemmed from people mocking him for being a Mama's Boy ("Ha! This guy loves his mommy so much, he might as well be fucking her!!!"). It doesn't exclude the possibility of Mrs. Phillips being an Abusive Mother, mind, but
- During the torture session, his line about waterboarding is that he'd be different if she waterboarded him more often. Considering the fact that he's very particular about the use of "motherfucker", it stands to reason he'd be particular with his choice of words there, too. She waterboarded him. I'd say that that's a line past molestation.
- At the end of Red Dead Redemption, Jack Marston guns down Edgar Ross, avenging the death of his father, but seemingly dashing away his father's hopes for him to live a peaceful life. However, the player can find a book called Red Dead written by "J. Marston". Maybe Jack managed to avoid being implicated in Ross's death and went on to live a peaceful life anyway, fulfilling his father's wishes.
- Well, John was apparently able to father someone born between 1973 and 1992.
- She's clearly not a very unpleasant and belittling person when Trevor hallucinates about her, and a man with a Hair-Trigger Temper like Trevor probably would lash out at her at some point. Not to mention just how guilty he seems when he hallucinates her there.
Sure, the guy's tough, but it's arguable if he's tough enough to take on literal armies with no body armor or backup, especially considering he reacts to injuries pretty realistically otherwise, such as when hit by a car. He was able to infiltrate a base and steal a helicopter, but that had at least as much to do with stealth, speed, good cover and Jeeps for quick transport as his own durability. And we know he's no stranger to vivid hallucinations.
So what really happened? The introductory cutscenes probably occurred as shown, but instead of mowing down waves of enemies, Trevor just fired the weapon he grabbed randomly, causing a decent amount of panic and destruction (and maybe killing the one or two people he was shown arguing with) before leaving.
- Nope, they're Canon. Because it's Badass that way. Your argument is invalid. (Also, he exploits the rules of Conservation of Ninjutsu, and the fact ALL the mooks enter the Imperial Stormtrooper Marksmanship Academy. ALL of them.)
- ...Um, pretty much any fictional work where "Some Aliens appear, and then you have to kill them all on sight". You're gonna have to be a little more specific to connect it to the Doctor Who aliens...
- You forget The Silence as soon as you stop looking at them. If you don't remember seeing them in the game, that's just because you don't remember. Next time, keep a marker on hand.
- Online takes place months before the main storyline, where he's still alive.
- I think i love you.
- Expanding further on this, Trevor will be killed by the most villainous of the protagonists in the next game. This will establish a Running Gag for the series; The most villainous protagonist in each game will be killed by the most villainous one in the next game.
- Confirmed: Indeed, casino heist DLC came out and it's freaking awesome!
- One likely possiblity is Gerry McReary, Packie hears about him getting transfered to Boilingbroke and wants the gang to help him break out of prison and Franklin finally lets Lamar in on a heist for the first time. The heist will have a "subtle" and "obvious" option.
- The former has Franklin and Lamar deliberately getting themselves sent to prison under false aliases so they can start a prison riot and help Gerry escape- meanwhile Michael and Trevor disguise themselves as riot guards and "injure" Lamar, Franklin, and Gerry enough that they need medical treatment, and your other crew members show up disguised as a medical crew in an ambulance to sneak them out.
- The latter option has Michael using a tank to blow open the prison gate and Trevor using an attack chopper to destroy the guard towers while Gerry is in the exercise yard, then Lamar and Franklin fight their way through other prisoners to grab Gerry and escape using an armored car, and your other crew members show up driving an AT gunner(humvee with mounted machine gun) and keeping the riot guards back. Eventually Gerry and the others escape after Lester blows up a bridge(with explosives that were planted earlier) to prevent them from being followed.
- Well, it is an Online heist mission now.
- Most likely the Angels Of Death, considering they were still around at the end of "The Lost And The Damned", so naturally they would capitalize on an opportunity like that.
- Actually, in a side-mission, a Lost member who hitches a ride with Michael or Franklin (obviously not Trevor, for obvious reasons) says that the entire AOD gang had been wiped out by the Lost MC prior to GTA V (likely during the many Gang Wars in TLAD). Now, assuming he isn't just bullshitting to make the Lost MC seem tougher, between this and how little the Angels were developed in TLAD, I think this means Rockstar is putting "bike gangs" out of the picture altogether... unless all the backlash brings them back, and even then, I'd put better odds on the Lost MC making a resurgence before the Angels of Death.
What we see from Cris is not really greed, he is just really desperate to feel special and be looked up to, and the way he found to do so just happens to necessitate large amounts of money to keep up. The fact that the Online player can also watch from the clouds is because he/she might always have been a faithful Epsilonist and thus Cris is thanking them the best way he can. So he saves them from death and has them secretly brought to him so that they wake up in the clouds already and he can keep the masquerade up for his own satisfaction.
- Franklin is several decades younger than Michael and Trevor. It would make more sense for him to be AJ's son, illegitimate or otherwise.
...and it's Claude Speed. After the events of Grand Theft Auto III, he made himself a LifeInvader account. He figured that since he was mute, he'd have to find a way to communicate to other people besides simply staring at them. He meets Lamar, flies to Los Santos, events of the game kick off.
Stitches around the neck? Ability to manipulate the flow of time? Sounds just like the Dio of the third arc, Stardust Crusaders.
They will turn out to be a HUGE Deconstruction of their former incarnations. After all the emphasis on deconstructing in GTA V, what better way to continue this trend, than to deconstruct the events of the entire franchise. Like for example: Claude Speed could be shown as completely unlikable hit-man, who only cares about getting paid and has no loyalty to anyone and would shoot a woman he just saved, just so she would shut up. Or Tommy could be a ruthless crime boss, with no code of conduct what so ever. They can also deconstruct the end result of said life styles; Going from just an enforcer from Liberty City to the king pin of Vice City, has made Tommy one of the most wanted man in the country and a bigger target for the FIB, than Micheal and his gang could ever hope to be. Plus (Assuming his shot up body isn't already buried.), all his allies are either dead and he left them in San Andreas, or dead and cannibalized, so he has no friends to go to and if he's even alive still; at this point in the time line, he is a lonely old man, far out of his prime, and covered in past injuries.
Think about it for a moment : we know the events of the 3D-era are no longer canon, but there are quite a few supporting characters who exist in both continuities. Among those is Denise Robinson, who was one of the possible (and most prominent) love interests of Carl "CJ" Johnson.
Now what do we know about Denise Clinton ? She's middle-aged, suggesting she was born at some point between the late 60's and the early 70's. She's not quite right in her head, albeit not to the point of insanity but she is an incredibly bitter woman and she seems to hate her nephew Franklin. Also, the Franklin Trailer suggested she was close to the Families...
Now let's compare that to Denise Robinson : we don't know for sure how old she was in San Andreas, but she was likely in her early 20's. As the game takes place in 1992, that means she would likely have been born betweeen 1965 and 1970 and, keeping with that, she would around 45 years old in 2013. She was an enthusiast gang-banger, close to the Grove Street Families and had a really sucky life before she met Carl : she's implied to be a prostitute and having had 3 children that she gave away.
Carl didn't exist in the HD continuity, but what about Denise ? What if she had married at some point a certain Mr. Clinton, keeping his last name even though they are no longer together ? What if her... *ahem*, "feminist" convictions were born out of spite for the life she had in her youth ? What if her disappointment in Franklin wishing to distance himself from the gang life was a result of her own ghetto pride ?
Not really the most "wild" of WMGs, as anyone who's played the business side of the Bikers DLC for more than a few minutes can probably catch the similarities right away. But, the real question is... why does LJT sound like Lester with a deeper voice?
- Confirmed. LJT almost refers to himself as Lester at one point. To quote him: "Hey, it's Lest... ehm, JT!"
- ALL YA HAD TO DO, WAS FOLLOW THE DAMN TRAIN, FORMAGE!
First we have Franklin, who is obviously CJ, the sensible, intelligent, motivated protagonist who starts out boosting cars and works his way up to government work and major heists. Then we have Lamar, who is Sweet. Devoted to the Hood and the gang, but ultimately suffers from low aspirations and is far too trusting, getting the protagonist into a lot of trouble by accident. Tonya is Kendl, a character close to the protagonist who gets involved in a relationship they don't really agree with, stresses the importance of the Hood, and gives a lot of missions, but ultimately is of little importance to the story. 'D' is Ryder, a childhood friend of the protagonist who later turned to the Ballas because of money and is eventually killed early on. Stretch is Big Smoke, a high-ranking Families member who also turned to the Ballas and subtly tries to get the protagonist and his friend into trouble at every turn, and is one of the final antagonists to be killed. Devin Weston and Steve Haines are Tenpenny and Pulaski, respectively, the villains who constantly force him into doing 'special favors' for them then screw him over anyway because they can.
Just like his actor. He's likely in the business not because he actually likes acting, but just to give Michael a hard time as a director. After all, if Trevor's not going on a psychotic rampage, he's probably trolling.
- No, no, he respawned back in Liberty City.
- Ron Jakowski. In Smuggler's Run, it's told that Trevor has "gone all Vinewood", being a guru and/or life style coach. Being abused all those years, and then betrayed will make Ron snap and order the Protagonist to kill off Trevor.
- Whatever remains of The Lost MC. Speaks for itself.
- The Madrazo Cartel. As shown in The Cayo Perico Heist, Trevor and Patricia had an affair after the events of V. With this information being now revealed, a Madrazo orders the Protagonist to kill Trevor.
- Some new guy that Trevor fucked over off-screen.
Since Trevor isn't the playable character and thus run out of Plot Armor, the attempt to kill him will end succesfully.