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  • What happened that Molly Schultz was sucked into the jet engine?
    • It was a test run of one the plane's engines after being repaired - Even when they run at idle, they process maaany cubic meters of air per second - they can easily blow cars that pass the path of exhaust gasses, so sucking in human being is not something that unrealistic. Molly just run out of her luck, figuratively and literally. In real life, engine testing would be done outside of the hangar.

  • If you steal a car with Franklin or Trevor, they pull the driver out by force and hop in. However, if you steal a car with Michael, he'll stick his thumb up, say some one liner, and the driver will just... get out. What? Why do the drivers just obediently give up their vehicles to some middle-aged stranger just because he told them to?
    • Maybe Michael just knows which buttons to push to tell people to fuck off. It works much better than needlessly hurting them in his case since it fits his characterization as a cool-headed professional. Either that, or the people get out in a panic because he could be packing. After all, it's Los Santos.
    • Probably a little of both — This is Los Santos and this big, pissed-off, scary looking guy tells you to get out of your car: you'd do what he says 'cause who knows what he'd do to you if you refuse. Especially if he’s also bruised and covered in blood.

  • Michael strong-arms Franklin into driving a car through Simeon's dealership's window, throws a guy off a yacht, pops headshots at men who kidnapped his son and stole his boat, destroys a house on a hill because he caught the guy inside in bed with his wife... yet despite all this he wasn't confident enough to step in when Lazlow was grinding against his daughter?
    • Lazlow doesn't start grinding on Tracey until a ways into her routine; before then, Michael's only annoyed, but at that point, he gets about as angry as you'd expect him to.
    • Might also show insight into Mike's priorities. Simeon was going to charge 5k a month for that car, which Michael can't actually afford right now, and the yacht was his pride and joy. Conversely, the only thing of Tracy's that was at risk was her dignity, and Mike may consider that ship to have sailed.

  • Is Sanchez a truly honest FIB agent, or is he another corrupt one who only doublecrossed Haines and tried to expose his corruption in "The Wrap Up" just to further his own career?
    • FWIW Sanchez was more or less as honest of a cop as you'll see in GTA and that he was working to bring Haines down. Dave Norton explains that Sanchez's agents are "a corrupt division, gone rogue or on the IAA payroll." So Dave is closer to an honest cop than they are.

  • How on earth did the king Corrupt Corporate Executive, Devin Weston, stay under Lester Crest's nose?
    • Lester describes Weston as a "Pseudo-Liberal" and regards him with some degree of disdain. He had seen some of the man's behavioral patterns and did not regard him as anyone more than a Upper-Class Twit.

  • According to later in-game information, North Yankton is an Ontario border town. It is incredibly rare for even one Canadian police officer to die in the line of duty, let alone the dozens and dozens of police officers and Michael, Trevor and their two compatriots gun down during the robbery. As the Mayerthorpe tragedy indicates, Canada takes this sort of thing seriously. How could Michael fake his death and Trevor be able to move to the States without the entire country screaming for their heads?
    • With Mike, there are two possibilities. Either the GTA verse version of Canada is a bunch of wimps, or it was a joint Canadian-FIB operation and the Americans didn't let the Canadians in on the fact they were flipping Mike (his witsec seems to be off the books, anyway). With Trevor, he escaped. One assumes he's still a highly wanted man in Canada, though. Given Trevor is Canadian, it's quite likely GTA!Canada is as nasty and messed up as GTA!America.
    • Where is it confirmed that North Yankton is in Canada? Everything we see in the game indicates that it's the in-universe equivalent of North Dakota, which is a state in the Upper Midwest across the border from Canada. Look at the names; Yankton, like Dakota, is the name of a Sioux tribe, and the North Yankton town of Ludendorff shares its name with a German politcian, just like North Dakota's capital, Bismarck. Ludendorff's Lifeinvader page describes it as "Home of the Midwest's Biggest Beaver."

  • Does Trevor really rape Floyd? (When he's crying when you jump to Floyd's apartment to check up on Trevor.)
    • Word of God is yes.

  • What's the point of the torture of Mr K; he seems to be spilling the beans the whole time, torturing him just make it harder for him to tell more info.
    • That's EXACTLY the point. The guy is innocent of any wrongdoing and is willing to cooperate, but the IAA and FIB are full of sociopaths who will torture people for fun, or respond to answers with more torture as a "confirmation". And then execute them when they're finished. Mr. K had apparently spent the past 6 weeks being constantly tortured without evidence that he was a spy and never once being asked a straight question.

  • How does Jimmy not realize what Jizzle means?
    • The way he doesn't realize what half the words coming out of his mouth mean? Seeing as how he's a Fat Idiot, Lazy Bum, The Stoner, etc., it wouldn't surprise if he STILL couldn't figure it out after all that time. Especially if his online buddies aren't any brighter (or deliberately haven't enlightened him of the definition For the Lulz).
    • Perhaps he does know and likes the connotation. It wouldn't be the worst nickname seen in a GTA.
    • He probably realized it later, as it's not one of the nicknames he mentions in his voicemail message.
    • Our human brains are pretty bad at figuring out if words could have alternate interpretations. If his mind was locked on the idea that it's short for Jimmy he might genuinely not have realized what it sounds like.

  • How can Franklin justify taking option B? Mike helped him climb up the criminal ladder while acting as a surrogate father. Trevor is a murderous, insane, serial killing, bloodthirsty psychopath. All sources indicate option B should be shot down by Franklin immediately.
    • It's really more a What If? scenario. Franklin's Fatal Flaw is that he's rather short sighted, goes along with whatever crazy plan people come up with without much protest, and always looks for a fast exit when things go south. Options A & B are a reflection of this: technically, option A is highly unlikely too. Trevor has done nothing wrong to Franklin. Devin Weston is rich, powerful, employing ruthless mercenaries, and has deep connections to the FIB. Franklin might have felt like he didn't have much of a choice in the matter considering who he would be dealing with. His pragmatic nature might have been a deciding factor as well.
    • Franklin might have slightly more motivation than is readily apparent. In ending A, Franklin and Michael aren't betraying Trevor just because he's unstable. They're betraying Trevor because they need a fall guy, and he's an easy target; that he's unstable is what they tell themselves to rationalize their actions.
      As "unstable" as Trevor is, Michael is the one who has been creating far more problems for Franklin than Trevor - Michael was the one who got him fired, brought down Madrazo's house and angered the Mexican mafia, and got Franklin tangled up with two federal agencies.

  • Why didn't Trevor come and intervene in option B? He knew that Franklin was most likely going to kill Michael, and he could've told Michael about that.
    • Trevor either just didn't care enough about Michael to save him directly (he doesn't truly let go of his grudge until the beginning of Option C), or he didn't expect Franklin to actually go through with it.

  • During the Paleto Bay heist, where did the body armor and minigun come from? Were they in the bags, in the bank, or in Hammerspace?
    • It involves an awful lot of lubricant.
    • Probably that same place our "heroes" store all those weapons and explosives during normal play.
    • Better question is, where does that body armor go after the heist? It would've been nice to keep it, considering its the only thing that keeps you alive long enough to actually use the minigun for anything.
      • Presumably it was too riddled with bulletholes after the Heist to be of use anymore.

  • Does it seem the FIB did terribly with Michael's Witness Protection thing? Even a guy like Wade found him with hardly any trouble, based only on first name, age, marital status, and the names of Michael's wife and kids. Why the hell didn't they change their first names too?
    • Considering that it was never ACTUAL witness protection - Norton simply arranged something that looked similar to it covertly and unofficially - it's pretty solid. The only reason Wade found him is because Michael used his goofy catchphrase and - unluckily for him - Trevor was still alive and connected the dots.
      As for the first names, those don't get changed because of how insanely difficult it is for people to just forget the names they had been using for well over a decade and use new ones without slipping up. Keep in mind the world thought Michael was dead.

  • Continuing the topic of Witness Protection. We know that it's not actual Witness Protection, but Trevor doesn't. Why doesn't he get angry at Michael? To be in Witness Protection one needs to act as a witness to something and need protection from someone. Given what Trevor knew at the time, the logical conclusion would be that Michael turned state's evidence against Brad and needed protection from Trevor...i.e., he'd betrayed Brad.
    • Two possibilities. One, Trevor actually did figure out the Witness Protection thing is a sham. Two, Trevor does hold Michael responsible for what happened (even if he never says so explicitly), and expects him to make up for it by trying to get the Bureau to shorten Brad's sentence.

  • With all the grief Trevor has about him being abandoned by Michael in the prologue, why does he suddenly just ditch Michael when the latter was kidnapped and held hostage inside a meat packing factory in "Fresh Meat"?
    • At that point, Trevor thought that Michael was a rat to the FIB, and attempted to have him and Brad murdered during the "heist gone wrong", rather than just arrested. It was his second Despair Event Horizon, and he was clearly insane with grief after finding out Brad was dead and buried in the coffin meant for Michael.

  • Why isn't Lamar available as a crew member during heists?
    • Try explaining that to Franklin. As far as he's concerned, Lamar's this useless, loud, hot bag of air that Franklin has to babysit. Having Lamar join the heists would have been a good way for them to land themselves in extremely hot water. Look at all the shootouts you had with the Ballas gang. Those were cause either by bad luck, or because of Lamar's 'genius planning' got them into those situations. As for Michael and Trevor? They probably just hadn't considered it/didn't see enough of Lamar's skills to have him join in the heists. But there's the argument Trevor too would shoot down the proposition after meeting Lamar for himself.
    • Michael tells Franklin during the Smart approach to the Jewel Stores Heist that the rest of the crew think Franklin's a gun-toting maniac. It's likely that they wouldn't have signed on had they come within a hundred feet of Lamar, since he is a gun-toting maniac.

  • Why is Brad (supposedly) incarcerated in a San Andreas prison, rather than one in North Yankton? If he were alive, surely he'd be imprisoned in the state he was caught in, right?
    • Prisoners get transferred all the time for various reasons. San Andreas apparently has the most prisons in the country in the GTA verse. Bank robbery is a federal offense IRL, so it wouldn't be that odd for prisoners to get moved around.
    • Once Trevor started writing to Brad, it's possible Dave wanted to see if he could get Trevor to try to break Brad out, giving Dave a chance to catch Trevor.

  • At the end of the game, Dave Norton texted Trevor revealing that he was the one playing 'Brad' in their correspondents. Is he asking to get lynched by Trevor?
    • Trevor had or would figure it out on his own eventually. There are also hints from dialog that Trevor was more upset about Michael's dishonesty rather than because he got Brad killed.

  • So, when Trevor was grilling Michael about what was in the casket in North Yankton, why didn't Michael just tell him it was their driver that got killed while driving away from the bank? Did he want Trevor to find out, or did he just forget about the driver?
    • It seems they both forgot about that driver, as he was shot halfway through the initial car chase sequence and summarily shoved out of the truck.

  • What was the point anyway of burying Brad in Michael's grave? If they needed a body to make it convincing how did no-one else notice the fact the guy looks nothing like Michael? They could have simply put some bricks in the casket and called it a day.
    • It was probably the easiest way to tie up loose ends considering Michael needed to fake his death, and Brad's body needed disposing of. Combining both saves time while making the first more convincing in a way.

  • At the end of "The Jewel Store Job", Michael emerges from the store to find a cop ordering Franklin to move the getaway bikes. Why didn't Michael just give the cop a Tap on the Head?
    • A few reasons:
      Michael, as proven in the prologue, doesn't want to cause unnecessary casualties if he can avoid it, and knocking the cop out might potentially kill him. Better to just turn him around and tell him to pretend he never saw any of this.
      While casing the jewelry store, Michael flat-out says to Lester that he's sure Trevor is dead. He didn't think he'd have any reason to not say that phrase. He was wrong, of course, but hindsight is 20/20.
      Michael is still a bit of The Narcissist when he's in full bank-robber mode, and just couldn't pass up pulling that thematic line as a way of leaving his mark.

  • Considering that "Sleepwaking" is considered the de facto theme for the game, why does it play during ending B?
    • A) It only played during one commercial (and most considered "Ogdens Nut Gone Flake" to be the de-facto theme, since it played in the first trailer), and B) It makes more thematic sense for such a Downer Ending.

  • Why doesn't Trevor just kill Martin Madrazo? I mean, it makes sense that Michael — with his family and his status as a man in hiding — would be too scared to go up against a big-time crime boss, but at this point in the game Trevor has already killed a lot of guys who were much tougher than Madrazo is, and with much less reason for doing so.

  • Why the hell do 80 cop cars come out of nowhere immediately when you steal the pesticide van? You are way out in the middle of nowhere near the docks, and before the mission activated phone call to the cops there were barely ANY cars in sight, much less cops in that area patrolling who could possibly respond so damn quick.
    • Maybe it's supposed to represent a very long chase scene throughout the docks, given the Space Compression nature of the game?

  • Franklin actually lampshades this a few times: WHY he agree to help out/join these nutballs in most of the Strangers and Freaks missions? He outright states he thinks what the paparazzi guy does is scummy, he's fairly averse to being a reckless daredevil, he doesn't seem to have any strong interest in helping out the weed guy, yet he goes through a hell of a lot on their behalf.
    • With Beverly, he went along with it under the pretense of being paid. Franklin's defining characteristic is that he's only in it for the money. With Barry, while he may not like the particular strain of weed the man smokes, he would be all for the legalization of pot, so that's all the motive he needs to support him. With Dom, given the strange circumstances (talking dog) under which he met him, he may have figured some divine reason wanted him to continue or was just curious enough to see where it goes (like how Michael got saddled with Epsilon). The pilot in some of the later basejumping spots also implies that Franklin got a taste for adrenaline.
    • Hey, given that Real Life players do these random inane activities because 'what the heck I have nothing better to do' or for the sake of 100% completion, it's not too outrageous to think the in-game character has the same mindset.
    • There's a cutscene in the first half of the game where Michael tries to warn Franklin to get out of town because Trevor's unpredictability and derangement will mean that everyone around Michael will be in danger, including Franklin. Franklin's reaction is to essentially say that he refuses to let anyone think they're crazy enough to make him back down. This goes a long way to explaining why he would keep up with Dom, Mary Ann, etc. It's in his character to never back down from anything.

  • In any heist where you have to hire a driver, the choice of getaway vehicles is left completely up to that person. Does this strike anyone else as completely out of character for Lester and Michael? These guys are meticulous, bordering on being control freaks. And not only are they letting someone else make the call of how they're going to get away from the cops, but they don't even bother to find out what that person decided before they're in mid-crime.
    • The Vehicle Choice is bit more sophisticated than what the name indicates. It can indicate how well the heist crew chooses vehicles, but it may also have something to do with how well the driver can supply a suitable ride on short notice. With the Bureau Raid, anything could happen; it could go smoothly (in which case, a fast but non-conspicuous car that can hold everyone is all that's needed), or it could attract every cop in the state (in which case, an emergency vehicle like the Ambulance works best). Different situations call for different solutions, and it becomes the driver's job to make the correct call quickly.

  • How is it that Lester didn't know Trevor was alive? When Michael asks about him, he says he figured Trevor ended up as a smear on the pavement somewhere. But he was living just a few hours north and was fairly well known in the drug trade up there (given that Gerald knows who he is), and Online shows that Lester was coordinating deals in the Alamo Sea region. Seems like Trevor's name should have come up at some point.
    • Online is a bit of a floating timeline, so it's actually hard to say whether Lester doing stuff up north took place before, during, or after the events of Singleplayer.

  • Why is the LSPD so much more brutal than the LCPD? Random one-star wanted levels (according to some), cops chasing you for a few seconds before shooting to kill at one star (the LCPD would chase you all day), and "minor" offenses like "harassing" a civvie (being too close, apparently), honking, flipping them off, snapping a picture, or insulting a cop results in the cop pulling a gun out and trying to arrest you at gunpoint, or shoot to kill after 5 seconds of chasing. The LCPD seem to be saints in comparison, even though they're supposed to be equally as corrupt.
    • Truth in Television; the LAPD is (in)famous for being among the most brutal and efficient police forces in the country.

  • The reason given for the big shootout during "The Paleto Score" is that Lester claims the bank's alarm system would cost more to hack than the job is worth. Except...the job is worth $8 million. Even accounting for the $2 million set aside for the Cargobob they need to buy (which, itself, is another headscratcher if you did the version of "The Merryweather Heist" which ends with Trevor owning his own Cargobob already), it's still very, very hard to believe that a bank, even one protecting a money laundering operation, could buy an alarm system that costs $6 million or more to bypass.
    • Cost doesn't only refer to money - Lester isn't saying the bank alarms would cost 6 mil to hack, he's saying that he doesn't believe the effort of hacking the alarm system is worth what they'll get in the heist. Also, Lester wasn't aware yet the bank wasn't used to store several million by the Small Town Tyrants running the town, and probably underestimated how much the Heist would have paid.

  • For the ending choice, why does Franklin say he can't kill both Michael and Trevor?
    • Presumably Franklin realized that if he were to kill either one of them, the other one would see it coming if he came after them, as well. And if either Michael or Trevor saw Franklin coming after them without them crossing the moral event horizon, he realizes that they'd kill him, instead.

  • Why doesn't Michael own a spot at the Marina automatically? Michael had the yacht before it got stolen, and mentions several times to Franklin that he'd go down to the marina and look at it, so why do you have to buy a spot?
    • Maybe Michael only rented the spot at the marina and couldn't afford to outright buy it with his house mortgaged up to the eyeballs.
    • If that's the case, why does Trevor start with the hangar and helipad?
      • Because Trevor is running a business that involves flying things south of the border, so it's more of an essential asset to him.
      • Trevor doesn't start with the air field, rather he gets it (either really cheap or for free) after he clears the Lost out of it. Also, Trevor isn't as poor as some make him out to be; Michael's net worth is several times Trevor's, but Trevor has more liquid assets, largely due to his simple lifestyle. This is shown in game with him having the most starting cash out of any of the protagonists (Trev starts with over 100k, where as Mike starts with only around 7k and Frank starting with less than a grand).

  • More of a pondering question: How would Trevor and Michael would have reacted if in exchange for being protected from Weston and Haines they have to kill Franklin since they were both going to be killed by him and the Triads decided to the "lovers" live if they kill the guy that saved Mike from certain death?
    • Trevor goes, "I'LL help our buddy out, Mikey, 'cause you will just leave him to die like you did me!" and runs after Franklin first. Trevor would probably then tell Franklin in a clumsy way that everyone's out to kill him, but Trevor, the best buddy of all, will help Franklin. Michael, the more level-headed of the pair, would likely get himself stocked up and then catch up with them. Predictably, once he gets there, Trevor and Franklin would likely already be in a lot of trouble and they both would need saving from Michael. Then things will pretty much play out as they did in the Golden Ending. All it takes is for the Triads to "forgive" Mike for botching the nuclear weapons sale and Trevor for his actions and since Franklin had been of zero benefit to them, Franklin can be the fall guy.

  • What happened to Mr. K? Last we see him, he's stumbling into an airport terminal, bloodied and battered from the Cold-Blooded Torture he went through. He's shirtless, presumably has no money, etc. So...how exactly is he supposed to get onto an airplane? Just sneak into one?
    • He doesn't stumble into the airport terminal. It's easy to miss, but he instead enters Los Santos transit - the subway.
      • Still, what exactly is he supposed to do after that? Did Trevor give him any money...or anything? Poor guy's got a long road ahead of him...
      • Assuming he didn't die from the stairs or the torture, he'll probably never see his family again. Even if he had an ID and passport, he couldn't use them without the FIB finding out. Trevor could've had Lester get Mr.K out of the country, or even flown him to Mexico himself since he regularly smuggles guns there anyway, but Trevor probably didn't care about Mr. K that much. Trevor kinda treated him like an animal, letting him "go free" into the wild, presumably happily ever after, although in reality he's likely dead.
    • Since the last we see of Mr. K is him stumbling into the LS Transit, it would depend on if anyone down there reacts to help him or not. If (though since this is Los Santos, it could be a big if) someone calls 911 for him, and an ambulance reaches him in time, that would likely save his life. US Emergency Rooms must stabilize anyone who comes in their doors at risk of dying, regardless of financial situations. If Mr. K makes it to an emergency room alive, everything is going into saving his life. It's after that that he'll have a hell of a time dealing with the legality of everything (assuming the FIB wrote up a death certificate, which they probably wouldn't bother), and he'd most certainly be in massive debt, but he'd be alive.
    • I took him going down the stairs as him being like "Screw you guys, I'm goin' home!"

  • Why does everyone, including the game itself, keep referring to the deer as elk?
    • Because Trevor, Michael, and Franklin have absolutely no idea what an elk or a whitetail look like, and they most likely don't give a damned either.

  • Why was Michael in the back of his son's hummer with a gun when Franklin jacked the vehicle?
    • Word of God was that he was trying to catch the tennis coach who Amanda's been cheating on him with.

  • What precisely was the "Device" that Trevor stole during "The Merryweather Heist?"
    • He explains it during the "off-shore" version of the heist, where said device is apparently a prototype of a nuclear fission generator that somehow works on seismic shifts in the ocean. The reason it's treated like a nuclear warhead is... well, it evidently has enough uranium to make a small nuclear blast, presumably being jury-rigged as such after Trevor sold it to his "client".

  • Why do Cheng's people target Michael in North Yankton? They should have seen him and Trevor pointing guns at each other, and they should have seen Michael shooting at Trevor when he was running out of the cemetery. Michael even offers to help them find Trevor. Shouldn't it be really obvious that they've had a falling out?
    • They thought Michael was Trevor's boyfriend. They wanted to use Michael as ransom to get Trevor to do what they wanted. They probably didn't even see the whole incident and assumed the shots were meant for them, ie, Michael shooting at them to buy Trevor time to escape.

  • Why couldn't Mike or Franklin use money from rampages to pay off their debt to the Mexican mob?
    • It's not really possible for a player (and by extension, them) to earn enough money (in excess of two million) to pay him off.

  • Why would the federal government need two skyscrapers dominating the Los Santos skyline just to house one agency per building?
    • Somewhere along the line they realized that if they housed the IAA and the FIB in the same building, they'd end up with a skyscraper full of corpses. They're government funded so money isn't too much of an issue. Chances are they did it just so they can have giant showy-offy signs on the exterior.

  • So the reason for the Paleto Bay job is to earn funds to pay for a Cargobob helicopter for the raid on the weapons lab. Except, if you did the off-shore version of the Merryweather heist, Trevor already owns a Cargobob.
    • They need an untraceable Cargobob, Trevor bringing his own in will most certainly be traceable. Any smart criminal or crooked fed knows you don't put your criminal assets in one basket. If they get traced too soon, someone is going to lose their legs, or heads.
    • Seeing as a) you could easily steal one from Fort Zancudo, as you do for the Merryweather job and b) the FIB's cut of the Paleto job is enough to buy 3 Cargobobs, it's rather likely the main point of that heist was for the FIB guys to line their own pockets.
      • If Trevor steals one from Zancudo though they would be quickly exposed from their POV, defeating the whole untraceable thing.

  • If Jimmy is such a deadbeat son, why Michael didn't ask Dave to give him some military application forms and offer Jimmy the chance to be like the character he likes in real life by joining the army (without Jimmy's being none the wiser)? Alternatively, get Jimmy hired in one of the half dozen businesses Michael owns by the end of the game.
    • Given that he's a fat idiot, Michael might as well have just signed his death certificate if he sent him off to the military. Besides, why would he? It's not like he really cares what Jimmy grows up to be. Same goes for giving him a job in his own business; Jimmy'd probably just fuck up and Michael'd have to fire him. Either that, or he wants Jimmy to set his life without relying on him for help.

  • In the Roof option for the Bureau Raid, even though the crew hired a pilot to handle the getaway, why does Michael have to fly to the FIB Building? Shouldn't the pilot be doing that instead?
    • Most likely, the pilot just flies the chopper during the fight back to base in case the guys fuck up the operation and wind up with half the San Andreas law enforcement on their asses. They could probably get away with paying him less that way.

  • What determines if the military comes after you? The only time it happens in story was in the Paleto Heist when Mike, Trev and the Gang had ballistic armor and heavy weapons. But they never come out when similar situations happen in free roam.
    • The characters' dialogue suggest that the cops paid the local military off. Evidently the Small Town Tyrants only cared about that Heist in particular because it involved their money.

  • Speaking of the Paleto heist, why is NOOSE absent once you reach the chicken factory? Why is it just the army?
    • Well, if things have already escalated to the point where the military needs to be called in, it makes sense that regular law enforcement would be told to keep their distance. If dozens of cops have already been killed, there's no point risking even more officers' lives if the army has a handle on things.

  • When Jimmy drugged Michael, why didn't he just take the money and get himself a car instead of stealing his father's? That part was really stupid.
    • Because it was cheaper to take a little cash and steal Michael's car. Buying a car is complicated, and he was cheated the last time he tried, and no doubt Jimmy knew the family was rather broke at that point.

  • In the Roof Entry option for the Bureau Raid the crew uses a long and drawn-out hacking procedure in order to get the data they need. Why don't they just take the hard drive and run like they do in the Fire Crew option?
    • It's possible that the drive was encrypted and Lester needed a bunch of time to retrieve the data if they just yanked it out, but since they couldn't just sit there while the building's on fire they had no other choice.

  • "You can't repo the assets of a dead man". Is that true in real life?
    • There's quite a lot of ambiguity as to what Franklin actually means. He might mean that it's not possible legally, but he might also simply mean that if their clients are dead then they can't get any more money from them (as a quote from GTA IV: "dead men can't pay rent"), or that killing people for a repo is not a line he's willing to cross.
    • You absolutely can. It's called probate. When someone dies, there is a complicated legal procedure to determine who gets the assets of the deceased. Usually when there are assets enough to require probate being opened, there is a will. Creditors can make claims against the assets as well. It's all decided by a judge. So, were Simeon to want to legally take possession of the bike, he would need lawyers and have to get the courts involved. This would bring up questions of why the deceased purchased the bike at such predatory levels, and may put too many eyes on Simeon's operation, which is a scam (if a legal one in 2013). It might also open a serious investigation as to HOW the guy died, which is not desirable to Frank. Ergo, it is easier to think of it as "you can't repossess the assets of a dead man."

  • In the offshore version of the Merryweather Heist Trevor has to steal a cargobob from Fort Zancudo. Doesn't attacking a port kind of pale in comparison to attacking a military base? Shouldn't that scale of theft have heist-level planning itself?
    • Because Trevor doesn't care about starting a beef with the U.S. military; his rampage against them and the fact that his psych eval implied he was willing to use nuclear weapons if he got into the Air Force shows he has no qualms about picking fights with bigger fish.
    • Consider also that the main point of heists is to obtain something, normally unique or very valuable, and ideally intact. If the military shot down the Cargobob Trevor can just shrug and get another one.

  • In two alternate endings, Franklin meets Trevor or Michael at dark deserted areas where there are no witnesses. This doesn't at all send off major red flags?!
    • Neither Michael nor Trevor has reason to be suspicious of Franklin, though. They might have just thought he wanted to discuss another shady deal/heist.

  • Who or what was dragging Michael's body, stripped him, and left him in the middle of a park in "Did Someone Say Yoga?"

  • In the "Friend Request" mission, after Michael puts the explosive device in the prototype phone, why does he leave the building without the backpack? Worse, he leaves next to the briefcase which contains the prototype photo. Wouldn't Jay Norris had noticed the backpack next to said briefcase and put two and two together, which would've saved his life?
    • Nope. He was in a rush to get to a press conference, and the LifeInvader offices are shown to be something of a haphazard mess, and besides, whose first thought upon seeing an unknown backpack is that someone rigged their prototype with a bomb instead of "Oh, somebody forgot their stuff here"?

  • How the hell did Trevor get away with killing Debra and Floyd? Surely someone would have noticed they were gone, or missing, or questioned the blood splattered on their windows OR on Trevor himself when he walks in the strip club?
    • It is indeed noticed that they are missing. If you return some time later, the apartment has been turned into a cold-case crime scene. Trevor must have covered his tracks well enough to avoid being caught. Trevor also murders the owner of the strip club and stuffs him into a freezer, and no one catches that one either — most likely out of fear in that case.

  • In the "Grass Roots" mission, when Barry attempts to appeal to him about legalization of marijuana, Trevor is against it, that he makes a ton of money selling smoke and has no interest in legalization because it will harm his business. But seeing how pot shops are rising due to the country's opposition to marijuana lessening over the years, why Trevor wouldn't considered the thought of a legitimate marijuana business?
    • Because running a legitimate business involves a lot of headaches pertaining to paperwork, legislation, quality standards, taxes... Trevor is also a wanted criminal who's living off the grid. That would make getting into legitimate pot distribution rather difficult, even if he weren't opposed to it on other grounds.
    • This is true in real life as well. There is an entire Netflix documentary about how hard it is for small weed farmers to make a living in California. They are fighting against corporations, and the licensing and permits required to grow more than a small amount for personal use are expensive and complex. This was done by design to not reward people for having a preexisting criminal enterprise. So people who have been growing for decades are edged out by larger companies, and they in turn attack fellow growers to control what small piece of the market is left. Now, I don't think this later issue would be a problem for Trevor, but the margins are much lower on legal weed than illegal meth.

  • Why/How did Johnny Klebitz go from a bad-ass biker to a drugged-up former shell of himself?
    • Meth is a hell of a drug.

  • Dave had to know Trevor was alive in San Andreas, why didn't he warn Michael and move him and his family out of there?
    • Why would he? The FIB obviously has some use for Trevor, otherwise they wouldn't be stringing him along with fake letters; it might not have been Dave's idea to write those, but he wouldn't have had much choice unless he wanted them to get suspicious about his hush-hush deal on the side. Michael was on a need-to-know basis as far as that went, and getting in touch with him and freaking him out would cause more issues than it would solve, especially when he couldn't just pack up and move somewhere else with his family on demand. There was no problem until Michael created one by pulling a job and spouting his catchphrase.

  • In the fifth and final rampage mission, the hipster Trevor threatens initially runs away like in the previous four; however, once the player gains control of Trevor, the hipster pulls a pistol out of his ass and starts shooting, especially after Trevor finds a sawed-off shotgun.
    • It's possible Trevor is simply hallucinating it, like how it's implied to be with some of his other rampages and final mission.

  • In "Marriage Counseling" after Michael and Franklin pull down Madrazo's stilt house, Madrazo demands to see Franklin's license, pocketing it after seeing it and driving away after threatening him and Michael. However, in "Eye in the Sky", Franklin has his license back. How did he get it back?
    • He called the DMV for a replacement, simple as that. The mission specifies someone needs a NEW license which has the chip.

  • During the ending cutscene of "Option C", Devin has tape over his mouth... but he had a conversation with Trevor after waking up in the trunk. What happened?
    • There's time skip after the player brings Devin to the cliff, so perhaps Trevor applied the duct tape between the time he got to the cliff to when Michael and Franklin show up. Possibly because he got sick of listening to Devin's bitching.

  • How is Trevor not in jail? Stretch gets arrested for what was probably typical gangbanging, yet the meth cooking, illegal gun trading, rapist, cannibalistic, serial killer/bank robber with hundreds upon hundreds of murders somehow manages to avoid any sort of police attention?
    • Blaine County is practically the Wild West compared to Los Santos, and Trevor knows how to pay people off. (It may not hurt that he's white, either, considering the game's predilection for social satire). Plus, Gameplay and Story Segregation; odds are Trevor's generally a whole lot stealthier with his activities than most of his missions let on.
    • Stretch was arrested because he openly talked about his crimes on Lifeinvader. Trevor is many things, but he's nowhere near that stupid.

  • Was Rocco Pelosi retired from the Ancelotti Family? Because as mentioned in TBOGT, he was a made man and now that he's been killed, wouldn't the Ancelotti Family would want revenge or maybe they would shrug it off?
    • Rocco high-tailed it out of Liberty City at the end of TBOGT judging by his voicemail, so it's safe to say that he was no longer in their good graces by that point, most likely because of Tony and Luis killing just about everyone he helped to sic on the two of them (that or the family's enemies and/or law enforcement had weakened them enough that they couldn't protect him even if they wanted to). Either way, by the time of V's storyline, he's given up the mob life and become a talent agent, so he's no longer affiliated with them and thus no longer under their protection.

  • Even after the storyline, is it possible that Michael got his yacht back or it's long gone?
    • Chances are low he'd somehow find it again. But, hey, he's now got enough to buy a new one, so who cares?

  • So you can sacrifice Packie McCreary to the Alturists. Shouldn't Packie probably be just fine?? If Trevor got out due to the Alturists leaving perfectly good weapons laying around, wouldn't it be safe to assume Packie can do that too?
    • Packie can be recruited for the Diamond Casino heist in GTA Online, meaning that he's still alive in canon as of 2019. Evidently he did get out.

  • Given that GTA Online has Time Skipped from pre-GTA V 2013 to current year, starting with The Doomsday Heist, why haven't any of the construction projects in Los Santos, particularly the Mile High Club, wrapped up by now? This is especially considering that the Casino was revamped in a few months.

  • In Act I of The Doomsday Heist, foreign players are attacking the U.S., but these "foreign players" are none other than Merryweather PMCs. Then at the conclusion of Act I, it's revealed that Bogdan hired them to do that. How come Merryweather doesn't suffer a setback because of that?

  • Why is it that Franklin is the one to confront Peter Dreyfuss about the murder of Leonora Johnson? Leonora was an actress from Classic Vinewood movies. Michael De Santa is a huge fan of Classic Vinewood movies and his hero/new boss Solomon Richards was a suspect in her murder. Therefore, wouldn't it make more sense for Michael to confront Dreyfuss about Leonora's murder than Franklin?
    • It might, but on the other hand, it's not like it makes Michael objectively better for the job than Franklin.
    • Rockstar most likely ended up having to make it for Franklin because collecting all the letter pieces and finishing the mission unlocked from that counts towards the 100% Completion of the game, and Franklin is the only protagonist who remains alive in all endings. It would've been a dick move for new players to be locked out of getting the 100% if they chose to kill Michael.

  • Devin Weston wants Franklin kill off Michael and the FIB wants Franklin to kill Trevor. Why didn't they just doesn't try to piss off both Michael and Trevor to the point that they finally try to kill each other?
    • Knowing the two of them, they'll see through the ruse. They likely saw the multiple scenes when two came to actually doing that yet somehow backed down at the last moment (such as during "Bury the Hatchet"), and they figured it wasn't going to work.
    • Dave Norton elaborates on this in "Lamar Down". Trevor won't let Micheal near and vice versa, but neither of them are particularly motivated to try to kill the other despite the risk. Franklin is easier to manipulate and can catch them off guard.

  • Franklin and Lamar are tasked with repossessing a Bagger owned by a Vagos gang member in Vespucci Beach. Due to them killing the owner, they cannot return it to Simeon, so Lamar keeps the bike. So, later on, how did Simeon find out that the two kept the bike for themselves? What if Franklin and Lamar did go to Simeon and explain what happened with the Jimenez? What would Simeon's response be?
    • Lamar, being a dumbass, might have gone and rode the bike in plain view of the dealership. (Maybe that's why Simeon thought Franklin took it; Lamar threw him under the bus.)

  • Why the hell do Franklin, Lamar, and especially Trevor, let Molly Schultz leave with the cars in the mission "Pack Man?" Anyone could see that Molly's claim of Devin holding the money to "not induce any unwanted attention" is bullshit, and a guy like Trevor would never give up the cars without getting the money first. So why are Devin's people just allowed to drive the truck away? Why doesn't Trevor give chase and get the cars back?
    • Franklin handles most of the negotiating with Molly and Devin in person; Lamar and Trevor don't realize there's a delay in the payment until Franklin tells them much later, once the cars are gone. And while Franklin is angry about getting stiffed, he's not in a position to get violent over it when Devin has Merryweather goons at his beck and call. Also, Trevor and Lamar are helping Franklin more out of kindness than anything else, so they're not as invested in getting paid as he is.

  • Why does NOOSE even bother to rappel from Police Mavericks at 4 and 5-star wanted levels? Both the NOOSE rappelling from the helicopter and the helicopter itself are just sitting ducks if the player has a rocket launcher in their weapons' cache, and even without a rocket launcher, the rappelers can be hit with one shot from any small arm and fall to their deaths.
    • I would go with they are dumb-ass, military-wannabe fascists.
    • The same reason the LSPD think they have a chance at taking down an explosive shell-shooting, land mine-dropping heavily-armored tank with a handgun; Artificial Stupidity mixed with Too Dumb to Live.

  • In "Legal Trouble", Devin and Molly try to prevent the release of Meltdown by taking the film reel away. Michael chases Molly to the airport and succeeds in retrieving the reel after Molly gets sucked into a jet engine, though it wasn't necessary as there were digital backups. However, if Devin and Molly had actually succeeded in their plans and Solomon didn't have any backups, wouldn’t that have caused a problem with the film's distributors? Imagine if they had already spent money for marketing campaigns, only to be told that the film could not be released now. They would have been furious at Devin!
    • So? What would he care? He's Devin Weston. He probably has enough money to buy and sell the distributors three times over.

  • If Solomon wanted to keep the Meltdown film reel, why didn't he simply tell Richards Majestic Productions security to not let Molly get out of the studio with the reel or to escort Devin and Molly out? Regardless of how rich Devin is, Richards Majestic Productions is still Solomon's property, so he has every right to send them away if he wants...
    • In theory, that's true, but Devin can pay them more than Solomon can. Regardless of who owns the lot on paper, Devin's the one in charge, and everybody knows it except Michael (which is why Solomon tried to trick Devin rather than confront him directly).

  • How was Don Percival able to contact Michael and Trevor at the end to thank them for killing Devin if he never actually met them? Weazel News reports that Devin is not officially pronounced dead and Percival has no way to know that two guys he has never met killed his most hated business partner? By the way, why didn't he thank Franklin too, if Franklin also worked with Trevor and Michael in taking down Devin?
    • Devin mentions in the set-up to the final mission that he can end Steve and Dave's careers with one phone call. Even if you assume he was exaggerating, Don Percival is even bigger up on the food chain than he is. For someone like that, it's trivially easy to know what the news doesn't, like who put Devin on ice. And Dave mentions in his phone call that he's had some "lucky breaks;" it's not hard to assume that Percival did him and the rest of the gang a solid (as thanks for getting Devin out of the picture) by telling the FIB to back off of everybody.

  • If Dave's plan was for Trevor and Michael to 'die', then why doesn't he take the opportunity and shoot Trevor after Brad and Michael are already down?
    • Trevor takes cover as soon as Brad collapses, and he's not someone most people would stand a chance against in an open firefight. Dave has to wait for heavy reinforcements to have any hope of taking Trevor down, and when they show up, Michael gets cold feet and blows the whole plan by telling Trevor to run.

  • How are there still O'Neil brothers? Seriously, they're still active as of The Contract, years after GTA V's story mode and the Heists arc of Online. The protagonists had to have killed dozens of them by now, yet somehow, there's still some alive. Exactly how many sons did their mother have?
    • There are eleven named brothers, and the Duggar family has eight more children than that, so it's not impossible. The "O'Neil Brothers" name could also be used to refer to the gang as a whole rather than just the brothers themselves, as is the case with many crime families.

  • Lester says in "Casing the Jewel Store" that Micheal transfers five figure sums to Dave Norton each month. Where does that money come from? And, on the same vein, who pays the bills in a household where no one has a stable income? Surely Mike's old heist money can't have lasted that long.

  • What does Franklin mean when he says "Oh man, no wonder this whole town's in therapy" in the first Paparazzo mission? Is he referring to Vinewood or the whole of Los Santos?

  • What is D referring to in his last words in "The Long Stretch" when he mentions a gang member "Being put on TV talking about some gang intervention shit?"

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