Wild Mass Guessing for Toy Story.
The first film opens with Woody and Andy playing. Play with Andy is representative of Woody's life. At the start of the film, Woody and Andy are playing and Woody is thematically in full bloom of his young adulthood, equivalent to his 20's. (disregard his actual age of at the time over forty, we are talking more about his mental/thematic age as it equates to his relationship to Andy, which is his life.) The first movie mainly concerns the arrival of Buzz Lightyear, which disrupts Woody's relationship with Andy. For Woody, this is the thematic equivalent of turning 30, realizing he's not the hot young thing on the block anymore and new, younger toys are catching Andy's eye. So the first movie is mostly about the loss of woody's youth and his adjustment to it.
The second movie then is the equivalent of Woody's midlife crisis, as an injury makes him realize he's aging and for the first time considers his own mortality. (that is, the end of his and Andy's relationship) he hastily re asses his priorities and out of panic falls under the sway of a cult leader, (the prospector) but is helped back from the brink by his friends and accepts the inevitability of the end.
And so, the third movie is about Woody's death, (the end of his relationship with Andy,) and what potentially comes after, but that deserves its own entry.
- This seems legit; Andy's tired of the toys, but is still attached enough to want them to stay safe in the attic (ie adult kids putting parents into a retirement home). At Sunnyside, most of the toys don't mind staying there, but Woody is determined to go back to Andy (older parents still hanging on to whatever connection they have with their kids). The dump/furnance scene obviously represents older people coming to terms with death and (depending on which person in the sky you subscribe to), Bonnie's room is the afterlife, most likely a form of reincarnation.
- Wonder how Toy Story 4 will fit into this.
- Someone identifies.
- Not applicable. Cowboy camp is shown as not only a regular event for Andy (Woody remarks it's the only time he hasn't gone), but also something he enjoys.
- Additionally, I think it's Sid and not Andy who's unpopular at school. I mean, really, Andy seems like a sweet kid, generally, while Sid is more like the class terror. Andy probably wants nothing to do with him, and I can't say I really blame him.
- And for the presents, they're just little kids. All they can give Andy is what their own parents buy for them to give him. Therefore, cheap stuff like blankets and board games. When you're a kid, you only get cool presents from your own parents. This also goes for him playing with toys, he's only six years old, and thusly spends a lot of time with mother and sister, he's not a teen or adult that can go out all the time and hang out. I'm sure he has a few playdates, as the toys seem to have long stretches of time where they're left to their own devices.
- Who said Andy and Sid go to the same school?
- Last time I checked, neighbors who are the same age go to the same scho- Oh wait, Sid might go to a private school.
- Or Andy goes to a private school. Or Sid constantly cuts class. Or their school has more than once class in each grade. Or Sid is actually a grade or more above Andy, or got held back. Etc, etc.
- Andy and Sid aren't even close to the same age. Word of God says that Andy was 6 in the first film and Sid was 13.
- This troper sticks to the theory that Andy's "crappy presents" were part of a Buzz Lightyear-themed birthday party, that she told the other kids to give Andy Buzz Lightyear-related stuff (bedsheets, lunchbox, etc.) so she can surprise him at the end with an actual Buzz action figure. It'd explain how Andy's room got filled with Buzz merchandise right after the party.
- Who said Andy and Sid go to the same school?
- To be fair, I always got my friends crappy board games when I was little for their birthdays. Didn't mean they weren't my friends, my mom just thought everyone would like a game of Monopoly.
- I support this theory because... Well, watch the trailer/opening credits for Toy Story 3. Notice how much of it is with Andy playing with his toys and how he doesn't have a single solitary friend. It's really kinda sad, and explains why he's so good to his toys.
- His toys were even given party hats at one of his birthday parties.
- Actually the birthday party was for Molly. And remember, we're only looking at a few minutes of home video, chosen to focus specifically on Andy's relationship with his toys - for all we know, there's a bunch of videos showing Andy in the school play, Andy at a track meet, Andy having a birthday party with his friends, etc.
- Track meet? Man, now I can't stop thinking of a video with Dash in the background as a Freeze-Frame Bonus.
- If they ever show a picture of Andy's friends, they'll probably be younger versions of John Lasseter and various Pixar staffers.
- His toys were even given party hats at one of his birthday parties.
- In the first movie, he had a birthday party with other kids attending, which would suggest he had some friends at least. However, if Andy was still a rather shy, solitary child this would possibly explain why Andy was convinced to give away his toys to Bonnie, who we clearly see is a bit of a shy little girl; he felt a connection with her.
- I agree with this for two reasons:
1. Why don't we see Andy's 'buddies' for the rest of the film, like maybe happening to meet them at the Pizza Planet?2. Sure, it focuses solely on them, but isn't it weird that no other kid (or kid's mom) walks in and asks why Andy's sitting alone with toys and his mom's filming it?
- 1. Because the movie is focussing on Andy's toys, not Andy himself; besides which, the Pizza Planet is just Andy's Mom taking her kids out to dinner at a pizza place (most likely because she's tired from packing to move and can't be bothered cooking anything), and there's no reason for Andy's friends to be there any more than all of my friends turned up whenever my parents happened to decide to take us out to eat for a change instead of cooking. 2. Why would other kids or their parents be in Andy's house at that particular moment, and why would they take issue with Andy's Mom deciding to capture a memory of her young son playing with his toys? That's kind of what parents do.
- This Troper is a writer, as are most.
- Andy can create and expand stories quite well (all three films).
- He easily sees life from in line with the imagination and wonder of a child (playing with Bonnie).
- He spends quite a bit of time at his computer/desk from how he sits in it/wear on the chair. A stretch, but plausible.
- A shot of Andy's bulletin board shows he won an art contest. It was from the sixth grade, but the thing that turns on the lightbulb for your future career would be kept in a place of honor on your desk, wouldn't it?
- Many of the posters in Andy's room lean toward the same style and aesthetic. This leaves the option that Andy designed them, he is a fan of a certain artist, or there is one graphic artist in the Tri-County area.
- His acceptance letter (also on bulletin board) is to a California college sounding suspiciously like the Pixar cabbage-patch CalArts. Also the PU pennant on his wall stood for Pixar University, accodring to a laughing Lee Unkrich
- Alternatively, Andy will stop by Bonnie's house when he comes home for Christmas later that year.
- And after he graduates college and becomes a film director, he'll remember his stories and think, "I should make a film trilogy about this..."
- Lots of kids write their names on their toys, especially the ones they're really attached to and might want to take to school. (This troper still has some of her brothers' action figures, marked JP and MP, as well as her own with LJ.) The bottom of the foot tends to be the easiest place to write the name, so it's likely that some of Andy's other toys are marked there, and we just haven't seen it.
- His attachment to the toys he gave personality to comes from his deep-seated understanding they are truly alive. While he did come to terms with them being inanimate (to him, at least), he still saw his childhood fantasies in them, and felt for them as much as he did before.
- He has a much larger imagination than many others, and is capable of creating entire worlds in his mind. However, as he grows older, he finds it easier to seperate fantasy and reality, but is still capable of feeling his fantasy world in adulthood.
- He has friends, but they share similar interests as him. The Buzz Lightyear-themed party implies that his friends are into fantastic adventures as much as he is, and he genuinely has fun when they're around. However, as we see them rather infrequently, we can assume he finds it difficult actually inviting them to his house, often seen in autistic children.
- He is a kind older brother, and jokingly bickers with his relatively antagonistic sister, but still cares about her. Many high-functioning autistic children have this relationship with their non-autistic siblings.
- As he grows older, he is well adjusted and, while still nostalgic of his childhood, has moved on. He recognizes that he needs to be responsible, as he is an adult, and does so.
- Lastly, he identifies with children who have similar behaviors as he did when he was a child. Bonnie, who I also believe to has autism for the same reasons, is the correct inheretor of the toys, as she has the right combination of creativity and kindness, something that Andy recognizes. When he realizes how Bonnie acts, he decides she is the only person deserving of Woody, and gives him to her.
- They're the same age, or close. At the very least, Sid has a year or two on Andy.
- Sid's braces aside, they LOOK similar. Sid has more of a buzz-cut, though, but close enough. Part of this may have to do with the state of animation at the time of the first film, but still.
- Heck, they're practically next-door neighbors. More on that later.
- They both have a younger sister and a dog.
- Their father figure is missing. That's important.
- Finally, they both have their toys.
Here's where the guessing starts coming in...
Consider, if you will, the possibility that Andy and Sid were friends. Now, the other part of this WMG is that their dads were killed in action. There is a little bit to support this. First is more than plenty of above WMG's suggesting that Woody was Andy's father's toy; if true, this would have helped to cope with that loss. Even more important than that are Andy's Army Men. Perhaps Andy's father was in the military, most likely the Army. (On a related note, the context of Woody and his dialogue with the Army Men at the start of the first movie has a whole new meaning...)
So we've established the probability that Andy's dad was in a war, and he was killed in action. From the above similarities between Andy and Sid, it follows that Sid's dad was also in the Army, and was also killed in action. There's no Army Men to support this, but Sid has used some tactical terminology; Sid's first scene, and the sequences where Sid was planning, delaying, and preparing Buzz's...erm, session...both played out as a kid/teen's glorified view of a military operation.
It's clear that Sid is probably an older version of Andy, if not a dark reflection. Hannah, Sid's sister, is older than Molly, Andy's sister, and Andy only gets his dog at the end of the first movie, whereas Sid has had Spot from the start of the film. So how did two similar kids end up so different? Their toys.
If Woody is indeed meant to be Andy's father's toy, or at least a reminder of him, this would have helped Andy cope with his dad dying. Sid, so far as we know, never had that. One became a more-or-less normal kid, and the other became a bully to all toys. Instead of coping with the loss, Sid takes his feelings out on his toys.
Finally, this divergence sets up the events of the first Toy Story movie. As Sid got worse, Andy stopped hanging out with him. Sid's getting worse also gives Andy's mother a reason to move: a better place for Andy to grow up, one where the neighbors weren't firecracking their own toys 24/7 and the dogs didn't attack everything in sight.
In summary, Sid's behavior is explained by the Freudian Excuse of a lost father figure. Andy never went down that path because he had a couple of coping mechanisms in place. But they probably used to be friends, or at least were very similar to begin with.
It's also likely that Andy's father and Sid's father may have been friends themselves, or perhaps in the same unit. It would make sense, but there's no way to prove it.
- Except Sid's dad is alive. Didn't you watch the scene upon Buzz's discovery of the commercial marketing himself? Sid's dad is laying in the chair, asleep in front of the TV. In fact, the reason Scud doesn't chase Buzz further in that scene is because Sid's dad is there, implying that he's abusive.
- Word of God has it that Andy is 6 and Sid is 13. Big age difference, I would say. Given Sid's nature, I doubt he would give a preeschooler like Andy the time of day; he would probably only give him a hard time, something his sister is already subject to.
- They weren't crappy presents, it was a theme party, he got a bunch of Buzz Lightyear stuff. He certainly didn't seem disappointed even before Mom revealed her hidden present. The kids were even running around together playing. As for Sid not knowing him Sid seemed older than Andy, older kids tend not to hang around younger kids.
- Actually only see the Toy important parts of the home videos, and we don't see the other kids because Andy moved away, he didn't have the same friends, and the ones he had in TS 2 we don't see in because he's at camp for most of the movie.
- And also why in the third film, when Andy was leaving for college, Woody was the only toy that he had chosen to bring with him. All the other toys were meant to be placed in the attic.
- The boy in the Woody's Round-Up video could very well be Andy's father as a kid. Being in the video is probably how he got Woody. When Woody saw him in the video, he remembers why he loves Andy so much.
- He resembles Andy, too. I'm subscribing to the Emily Davis/young Mr. Davis theory/theories!
- Ooh, ooh! I got it...Emily and Andy's-dad get together out of their shared love for Woody's Roundup and the toys!
- He resembles Andy, too. I'm subscribing to the Emily Davis/young Mr. Davis theory/theories!
- Word of God confirms this.
- Confirms what? The title of this WMG or that the kid in the show is his father? And where is the proof?
- Come on, above troper. It's not hard to look on the main page OR the JBM page of Toy Story to figure out where that particular Word of God comes from. Don't be lazy. Anyway, they said (apparently in the DVD commentary) that Woody was meant to be his father's hand-me-down toy to Andy, but they just never bothered to expand on it. Let alone show any adult males in the first film.
- The bullet points from "Word of God confirms this" and the line below were originally one bullet point deeper, and thus (mistakenly?) were under the sub-guess that Andy's father was in the Woody's Roundup video.
- Alternatively, Mrs. Davis in fact DOES practice witchcraft/voodoo/dark magic/etc. And combined with the theory above and/or a bit of the machine from 9, placed Mr. Davis' soul in Woody. Now all we need to figure out is what happened to that lost Woody soul that was sacrificed.
- The problem with that theory is that you have to commit murder to create the Horcrux. Then again, seeing as how no one ever mentions anything about Andy's dad...
- Alternatively, Woody is Andy's mom's Horcrux. Mr. Davis was the murder victim used to create him. Yes, this means Woody is a woman in a male body. What?
They try to cope by saying that it was necessary, that Andy and the world are better off by not having a child-diddling scumbag like that walking around, but to this day they sometimes still can’t look in the mirror without seeing the blood on their hands. Each one developed a specific, personal coping mechanism as well:
Mr. Potato Head became cynical and aggressive to people. After Mrs. Potato Head came along, he calmed down some, but he still couldn’t confide in her and thus his aggravation and inner turmoil still didn’t settle.
Slink turned into a sycophant, becoming fiercely loyal to Woody and turning to him for guidance in everything he does.
Rex became jittery and nervous, developing low self-esteem and retreating into a seedy life of chatroom sex with other dinosaurs to distract himself.
The toy soldiers that didn’t develop PTSD and/or off themselves convinced themselves that they did their duty and served their country(Andy’s house) as faithfully as they could, with Sarge taking the hardest blow and running drills to distract his men.
Hamm retreated into snarky humor and began cracking jokes at every opportunity. He cries on the inside.
Woody, for his part, became even more obsessive about protecting Andy and keeping him happy. He does this as a reminder of why he had to take a life.
Unlike the rest, however, Bo Peep developed a weird reaction. She initially found herself very attracted to the decisive and strong-willed Woody, and began a relationship with him. However, after a while her conscience began to eat at her. She wanted to tell Buzz, the new member of their group, but Woody threatened her sheep and so she kept silent. However, after Jessie came along and provided her with another woman to relate to(Mrs. Potato Head was not allowed to question Bo about it), Bo Peep decided that she would not be silenced any longer. She elected to tell Jessie, and when Woody discovered this plan he pushed her off the top of a dresser and told the other toys that she fell. When they mention her in Toy Story 3, Woody’s reaction isn’t actually sadness, but guilt over what he had to do to maintain their horrible secret.
Now tell me, is your childhood burning or is it more like a stabbing pain?
- He may have left right before the first movie started or months before, but one thing is certain: he is alive. If he's dead, why are there no pictures of him on the stairway wall? If he had died, you'd expect that they would at least keep a picture of him up for the sake of honoring his memory. Given how in the first movie Molly is an infant, it's obvious that any pictures of Andy's dad were taken down, meaning a recent divorce happened and it wasn't amicable.
- In the first movie, Andy's mom is spotted without a wedding ring at Andy's birthday party. If her husband had died recently, then she would probably still be wearing it.
- In Toy Story, the family is moving from a bigger house to a noticeably smaller one, which means that Andy's mom is having financial troubles. If she and her husband were getting a divorce, then he would at least be paying her child support, but the family still has to make some sacrifices.
If the parents were divorced why didn't Andy take toys he loved so much (Woody/Buzz) over to his dad's place? I'm not a divorced kid myself but my POV of divorced kids is that if 1)they have toys they loved so much and 2)have a 2nd home they're sure to take the toy over to the "other home"
Mr. Andy's Dad was a police officer, probably a very good one, and often told Andy stories about capers and crooks. The stories were most likely made up for his son's benefit, since any actual events ran the risk of giving Andy nightmares. Over time, the amazing stories became the make-believe playtimes Andy has with Woody and Buzz.
Speaking of Woody, it would explain Andy's attachment to him as both a toy and as a sheriff. One of Mr. Andy's Dad's goodnight sayings could have been "You're my favorite deputy" for the buildup of when he gave Woody to Andy. With them sharing a catchphrase, it's no wonder Andy bonded with Woody so fiercely and why he hesitated so often to give the toy away.
- Jossed. The license plate in the first movie says 1995. In the second film, Tour Guide Barbie confirms that Buzz Lightyear toys were first made in 1995.
- Buzz works for the Galactic Alliance, so why not?
- Zurg is payed off by some people in the Galactic Alliance basically to keep a threat around and justify certain actions. Seriously why would he pick the day Buzz was trying to convince Tangia to join the Galactic Alliance to prove he's a threat. Where else would he get his money since he apparently never wins?
- Zurg and Buzz don't realize this. Zurg's being given money and some information that it would benefit certain people to have but doesn't realize where his dirty money and information is coming from or that he's bein used as a pawn. Buzz is to trusting to think of this.
- If Zurg had decided to cast off his evil heritage and become for instance a waiter it would have caused the end of the universe as they knew it and not in a good way. Instead of Zurgs son being raised without knowledge of is heritage he would have bean kidnapped by his granpa who would otherwise have not known he existed. His granpa would suceed with his granson where he failed with his son. His grandson would be hyper competent and destroy/conquer the universe simply for a challenge.
- Zurg and Buzz don't realize this. Zurg's being given money and some information that it would benefit certain people to have but doesn't realize where his dirty money and information is coming from or that he's bein used as a pawn. Buzz is to trusting to think of this.
- Buzz Lightyear has autisn/aspergers or some other metal problem on that level.
- He really seems to believe in the rules beyond a normal person, he didn't pick up on the werewolf guy disliking him, he actually believed that Zurg put kittens in trees as part of his schemes.
- Furthermore, Buzz (the toy) is seen running on Buy-N-Large batteries, showing that the company exists in both Wall-E and Toy Story. In Wall-E, Buy-N-Large fronts the exodus from Earth into space. Perhaps Buzz (the person) was the frontiersman of this effort.
- CONFIRMED! Buzz Lightyear is actually an astronaut In-Universe and is getting a Origin Story / prequel where he will be voiced by Chris Evans.
My guess is that Buzz Lightyear started off as eaither a toyline or Video Game, but gained a cartoon show later on. Of course, they felt the need to make some new characters to go with the show, just like Sonic's Freedom Fighters.
- Why not? They are turning Cars into James Bond! ...Or they 'added' 'James Bond'...
- Well you tell me then!
- The fact that Andy's not horribly deformed can be put down to the Literary Agent Hypothesis.
- The kid in that short is officially known as "Billy", and he chased "Tinny" around.
- One of the Freeze Frame Bonuses in the third movie is a Postcard from Carl and Ellie Fredricksen on the corkboard in Andy's room. It's possible that they are his great-aunt and -uncle, which makes it a cool easter egg linking two of Pixar's movies.
- If I had to say, Elle is likely the one related to Andy, possibly on his father's side. They're both free spirited, very imaginative, and get along well with others.
- In TS2, Andy's mom says he has five minutes before they have to leave for Cowboy Camp. Andy is able to string up Bo Peep, arrange all of his Army Men perfectly in front of Hamm, put Buzz on RC in a box, set up the ramp so it exactly hits Hamm, and acting it out takes about a minute, and this all comes from the room being in disarray after Buster ran rampant looking for Woody. No kid can set all of that up (particularly the Army Men) in five minutes, barring being a Speedster. Ergo, he is somehow related to a Super-being.
- Or, like this troper's mother, when Andy's Mom says five minutes, she really means half an hour.
- Molly doesn't look like Scarlet Witch. She could dye her hair, but this will make coming home for the holidays very awkward.
After Bonnie grows up, her mother ends up selling the toys at a yard sale, and they all get bought by Calvin's parents. They enjoy being played by Calvin even more than Andy and Bonnie because a) Calvin will never grow up and b) he can see toys move without any sort of awful effect on them.
- Correction: Bonnie is Calvin's mom. Calvin's dad was a kid when people still used black-and-white photography for everyday purposes because his parents (like him) were nostalgic and thanks to the increased lifespan of the future, intergenerational adult relationships and looking middle-aged well into your 60s and 70s is becoming more and more common.
- And Shine Heaven Now actually does the reverse, and has Bonnie be Calvin and Susie's daughter. Still possible that Calvin, and even Bonnie, who inherited her father's penchant for adventure, are aware that the toys are alive, because Hobbes is a stuffed toy sold by Count D to protect Calvin, then Bonnie when he grows up. Susie is a maybe. She does learn Hobbes is real, but whether she knows of the rest is up for grabs.
- "Oh, uh... that's just another dinosaur across the street- here let me just take care of that! ...just a dinosaur."
- What happens when a human discovers their edits though!? I'm sure the toys wouldn't remember to clear the history every time!
- Oh, our, er, I mean their humans don't, er, I mean, probably don't even frequent the wiki, and they're too young to think to check the pages previously viewed history.
- Yeah, but
ourtheir owners' parents are old enough to check search histories...youthey might want to be more careful.
- What happens when a human discovers their edits though!? I'm sure the toys wouldn't remember to clear the history every time!
- In Toy Story 3 Andy has a postcard from Carl and Ellie Fredrickson.
- In Monster's Inc. Boo has a Jessie doll.
- Buzz has Buy N Large batteries in Toy Story 3.
- The toys go past a leaf with two of the bugs from A Bug's Life in Toy Story 2.
- A Lotso Huggin' Bear was in Up.
- Rex was in the credits of Monster's Inc., so maybe a human made the Rex toy after he scared him as a kid.
- And Sid appeared in the Monsters, Inc. comic book. The same comic book also shows that Boo has a Jessie doll (though it's obviously not the same doll as Andy's Jessie, and she remains inert throughout).
- There's a Buzz Lightyear toy in the dentist's office in Finding Nemo.
- And of course, every film has the Pizza Planet truck in it.
- Except the Incredibles, which otherwise has no connections to Toy Story. Hmm...
- Pixar theory much http://www.pixartheory.com/
- Except the Incredibles, which otherwise has no connections to Toy Story. Hmm...
- And Buttercup's true identity? Surprise, the predecessor to Pinkie Pie, but a unicorn instead of a pegasus. (Dolly said that at Bonnie's house, toys have the opportunity to change their names, and the toy Bonnie knew as "Baron Von Shush" was listed in the credits as "Mr. Pricklepants". This, combined with Hasbro's connection to both franchises makes it entirely logical that Buttercup is just Unicorn!Surprise under an alias.)
- And in the flashback montage at the beginning of Toy Story 3, Andy was possibly watching the scene in My Little Pony: Equestria Girls where the demon version of Sunset Shimmer flies into the school after destroying the entrance, due to the same Stock Scream being used.
- Er... I could be wrong, but Bonnie never calls Mr Pricklepants "Baron von Shush", she calls him "Mr Pricklepants", it's one of the other toys what calls him "Baron von Shush" and that's AFTER he keeps shushing them. It's... pretty safe to say his name is Mr Pricklepants to Bonnie and everyone else, barring the moment of sarcasm from Deadpan Snarker Buttercup. HOWEVER, it's perfectly possible that she did name him that, since some toys do indeed come without names (ie, nearly every plush toy ever that's not from a franchise), and Mr Pricklepants is exactly the kind of name a little girl would give a hedgehog toy wearing pants (well, lederhosen)
- Replace Buzz's spacesuit with a Vault-suit, his wrist device with a Pip-Boy, then add to fact he has more technology at his disposal than most of the other "toys" he encounters, everything having a 1950's feel to it and all of Sid's toys are actually mutants... how does this not sound at all like Fallout?
- Matoba actually went to America and was exorcising toys/tsukumogami left and right when he encountered Lotso (who'd just found out he'd been replaced). Lotso told him to stop exorcising toys, so Matoba said that if Lotso helped him exorcise some, he'd spare some others, like Big Baby and all the Sunnyside toys. The Sunnyside situation was a result of deciding which toys would be exorcised. He tried to kill Woody and the others to appease Matoba.
- The Claaaw works in mysterious ways.
Alternatively, the aliens have some kind of mystic quality (which they have been wrongly attributing to The Claw), hence why there is nothing special about the Pizza Planet truck post-Toy Story 2 (TS3's is a flashback, and Monsters, Inc. either takes place before TS2 or the guy has more alien toys at home).
- To elaborate on the idea for other movies, there's also the Pizza Planet truck being one of the items that frustrates EVE in WALL•E into getting stuck on the magnet and destroying the ships, causing the first real interaction between her and WALL•E. I'm drawing a blank for the other ones, though.
- I am going to consider this canon whenever I rewatch the trilogy from now on!
- If Toys can tap into their childrens' imaginations, then this might explain why Jonny knows that Plank is alive.
- No wonder Buzz was so confused (traumatized?) after that whole Mrs. Nesbitt thing.
- The toys look up to Woody and Buzz as leaders because they is always portrayed as the heroes. Potatohead is resentful of Woody in the first film because Andy always used him as a villain for him to foil, and it made him bitter.
- Why Woody came to hate Buzz so quickly - aside from straight jealousy, Andy kept playing games where he made Buzz beat Woody up.
- Why Rex feels pressure to be scary - He's naturally shy, but Andy always plays him as a frightening monster.
- In the third film, Lotso seemed to be one of the more popular toys with the Butterfly room kids, which would aid his ability to lead the rest of them and convince them of his philosophy.
- Fridge Horror: Good gravy. If that's the case, that let us only shudder horrifically at whatever the toys were experiencing when the toddlers played with them. Imagine The carnage, the destruction, the senseless violence, the horror, THE HORROR!
- Jossed. In the third film, Jessie mentions (about her being thrown in the trash) that "It's Emily all over again!"
Woody doesn't forget the hypothetical Andy's Dad randomly; it's because Andy's Dad knew Woody as the character from the show. When Woody was left to Andy, Andy had never seen Woody's Round-Up and just knew him as a random cowboy doll; naming him Sheriff Woody was just a coincidence, and the trappings of his identity as the kid's show character were absent. Jessie doesn't forget Emily because by the time Andy received her, he was aware of the show and of Jessie's canon ability as a yodeling cowgirl, and her identity remained intact. Once Bonnie projects new identities onto them they'll forget being anyone's toys but hers, as part of the reincarnation metaphor.
- It's possible that Andy's mom gave Woody to him and told him "This is Sheriff Woody, he was your father's favorite toy". Even if she hadn't seen the show, Andy's mom would have probably heard Woody's name from her husband at some point.
- But you forgot one thing: Andy told her the personalities of all the toys. They should be fine.
- This was jossed, in the original, no less. Buzz still remembered everything after Sid's sister gave him a new identity by rechristening him "Mrs. Nesbit."
- But she never ascribed a complete identity or personality to him, and he was too traumatized by the initial stripping of his previous identity as The Real Buzz Lightyear for him to accept it as his role in his owner's play-world. If she'd kept him and loved him as Mrs. Nesbit, he would have.
- One possible problem with this theory — it's mentioned by Bonnie's toys that Bonnie does a lot of 'improv' (which I imagine to be lots of making stuff up at random), yet they seem to have clearly defined personalities outside of this.
- But that makes no sense. We know for a fact that Jessie still remembers Emily in Toy Story 3. When she thinks she's going back into storage she curls up into a ball saying "It's Emily all over again!"
- WHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTT!!!! No...Just...No
- This got to be canon. Rex is routinely heard saying things like "He touched me", "Come with Papa" (in reference to kindergarten kids), and "I love playtime!" Jessie says that when a kid plays with a toy the toy feels "alive"...
- So in a sense, all the toys are possums?
- I always thought they held it in around humans out of neccesity. They're really good at it due to being toys. When around toys they react normally with proper responses and reflexes because there's no need to hold them in.
- In Toy Story 2, Andy's mom picks up Rex, and his eyes shift nervously. Toys also wink to each other on a few separate occasions in the first two movies. It made sense to me that they can control what parts of their body are inanimate. The cleaner from the second movie cleaning off Woody's eyes is a good example of this.
- I'm pretty sure Toy Story 3 confirmed that they were just acting. When Bonnie makes Woody her new toy and all the other toys introduce themselves, they talk like they're actors.
- I believe that they have to choose to move in front of humans over the age of two at least where the given human is looking.
- So in a sense, all the toys are possums?
- Well, toys come off the assembly line fully-formed, and don't really have time to 'grow up', so it makes sense that they'd start with the personality that that the toy's maker has given it- and even after they realise they're toys, it probably takes a long time for it to change significantly. Compare Woody to Buzz- Woody's almost completely forgotten his original identity, and if anything he starts acting more like a cowboy after watching Woody's Roundup, while Buzz maintains his Space Ranger speech patterns, personality and mannerisms for all movies. (especially the third)
- I always thought that it was because Slinky has the potential to manipulate his springs according to however he wants to. He may have just been to tired immediately after the whole "car chase" scene to retract them, but after he regained some strength, he was able to rebend them back in place (which is why we later see him back to his shorter self). That's why he can also do this: [1]◊
- so does that mean Woody originally thought that he was the "real Woody?"
- By this theory, yes, Woody thought he was the real cowboy from Woody's Round-Up. But TS2 shows that not only did he realize otherwise, but he COMPLETELY FORGOT about it! Maybe he had amnesia from being knocked in the head?
- so does that mean Woody originally thought that he was the "real Woody?"
- This seems to be supported by Woody's Line to Sid in the first movie "we toys see everything"
- Kind of like the Geth, if you ask me...
- The Replicators? It's surprising how many evil alien races are based on sentient Lego bricks...
- That would explain SCP-387. For some reason a batch of Legos were created that didn't have toys' instinctive reflex to "freeze" around humans. SCP-705 might be the same basic idea.
- Some Lego bricks are seen in Small Fry. They are only seen in one- to three-brick combinations and they don't move an inch.
Toys with "try me" tabs protruding from their battery compartments, however, can never go back once the tab is pulled.
- Alternately: Buzz was still in demo mode after seeing the commercial, which is why he still tried to fly afterward. The fall jiggled his switch to play mode, his existential horror resulted mainly from 'waking up' maimed and trapped in Sid's house.
- OR, alternativley (again!) toys that have a 'demo mode' all start out with their delusion of being real before being put into 'play mode': either by their owner by simply switching the button (like how i'm assuming alot of Andy's other toys, to explain why they didnt go therough the same thing as Buzz) but if an owner doesn't do that, the toy must realize for itself that its only a toy, like Buzz, and the trauma is what causes the switch to move on its own (like a snap of realization in the brain; instantly!) Toys without demo switches don't need to go through this experiance.
- Or, being in demo mode makes you mechanical, and gives you trouble retaining long term memories, generally dummer, broken record and doesn't think about reality dummer not place where you keep knives dummer. Overall Demo Mode is a cheep imitation of play mode like it is in real life. The Buzz they knew and loved did not fit into Demo modes limited way of thinking so he forgot who he was. Buzz in play mode with amnesia might realize something is wrong with the picture and realize that....Lotso is evil and tricked me into keeping innocent people prisinor. Buzz is usually quite not that gullable even in his show.
- Sorry, doesn't work. TS2's Buzz and Zurg know each other well enough to try to kill each other, and both are fresh out of the box. Then again, their 'toy' personalities are innately entwined. And note that Barbie and Ken had a feeling they were made for each other, too.
- Though Pixar could've just been making a pun on Barbie and Ken's point. Also works on a theory above that they're a parody of love at first sight movies; how many times have you heard "it's like we're made for each other"?
- One can imagine an Optimus Prime or plush Mario seeing their own depictions by accident, like Buzz did. Presumably, there's a system in place for preventing Heroic BSoD. It didn't happen for Buzz since Andy didn't own any licensed toys (at least, licensed to something that was currently airing).
- Pokemon toys: They would act like Pokemon in the anime and games.
- Transformers: The war between the Autobots and Decepticons translates to real-life, and while they're aware they're toys, it doesn't change how hostile they are to each other. It's just...they subconsciously choose not to outright destroy each other, or their kid would be devastated.
- Technically confirmed in Toy Story of Terror with an Expy called "Transitron".
- The rest of Buzz's friends from the Buzz Lightyear of Star Command series. Mira would go "OK, if I was just a toy, could I do this?" and run headfirst into a wall, wondering why her phasing wasn't working. Buzz would help her come to grip with reality. Booster would probably make friends with Rex pretty easily. XR would be adopted by the Potato Heads who think he's their long lost son.
- Star Wars: No Force Powers beyond what they can do in combat. Flipping through the air and landing with style, yes. Moving things with their mind, no. The Jedi characters might live by their code anyway and may try the Jedi mind trick, with varying degrees of success. They may find themselves quoting the films where appropriate.
- Sex/adult toys: Life-sized, inflatable dolls would act like actual prostitutes when their owners are away at work.
- The above troper has been * ZOT* ted. The above troper owes the wiki one thesis on the nature of reality in the Pixar film of their choice ("Instrumentality", "Haruhi", and "Dying Dream" don't count). ...Though he does have a pocket that's got to be bigger on the inside.
- ...His ass is a Tardis!
- Done and Done
- The troper responsible for the * ZOT* ting of the preceding troper, has been * ZOT* ted.
- Buzz: As the article states, Buzz would be easy to get rid of due to his delusions, and Mr. Potato Head gets lucky with Woody taking care of him.
- Slinky: He could easily be framed as an accomplice of Woody. Plus, he's not really competition when it comes to "snuggling" with Andy, as snuggling with a slinky would be quite dangerous.
- Rex: A gullible Cloud Cuckoolander that would easily give in to peer pressure. Also, unpopular (him and Potato Head being leftovers when it came to picking moving buddies) and being more sympathetic to Woody than most of the other toys.
- Hamm: Well, first off it would be pretty weird if Andy brought a piggy bank everywhere. Not to mention, Hamm wouldn't really want to be Andy's favorite; at no point in the series does he express a desire to even be played with. As a piggy bank, he simply enjoys collecting things, whether it is change, Woody's hat, Mr. Potato Head's parts, Barbie's Corvette, or trivial facts. Also add that Hamm and Potato Head appear to be best friends and he's really not competition at all.
- RC: He's only "top tier" in the original, but I'll include him anyway (after all, he was probably given a reduced role/written out because it's easier to write for a horse than a remote-controlled car as the Team Pet). RC is probably one of the easiest to get rid of. Again, it would be weird for Andy to snuggle with him at night. Also, Mr. Potato Head appears to be the only one that can understand him, so there's that. Oh, and he can be remote-controlled against his will and eventually become immobile when his batteries die.
- Anyway, in summation, Mr. Potato Head was always plotting to get rid of Woody in order to become Andy's favorite toy. His reasons for his villainy? He was tired of always being cast as a villain/Chew Toy and wanted to be a hero for a change. He still had a desire to usurp Woody and Buzz up until Mrs. Potato Head showed up, as he now gets to be the villain/butt monkey/chew toy with her, and he will always be her hero.
- Potato Head might very well not understand RC at all and just be pulling a pre-decided dialogue to incriminate Woody. After all, it's not like RC could shout then "I didn't say any of this!".
- I think he was intended to be an antagonist, I mean, he got Laser-Guided Karma at the end of the climax with RC crashing into him and sending his peices flying.
- It's also interesting to ponder what would have happened had the toys found out that Potato Head lied to them about everything and what they would've done to him afterwards.
- Rex mentions that he was from a toy company that Mattel bought out. There actually is a toyline from a Mattel-bought company that had dinosaurs in it: Dino-Riders. The dinosaurs from the toyline have even been sold by the Smithsonian(without all the guns, of course).
- Confirmed in every single Toy Story film, wherein they say "Tri County Area".
- The guess seems to have been that the city was called "Tri-County", not that it happens in a tri-county area.
- Did you say Tri County Area?
- Yes, yes he did. What he didn't say was "Tri-State Area".
- You know what? I don't even care. The concept is just too awesome to pass up.
- "...and so, Perry the Platypus, I will use this Toy Liveinator to cause every doll, action figure and toy in the entire Tri-State Area to come to life, and-" "*Platypus sounds*" "-wait, Tri-COUNTY Area? Man, I've had it wrong for years!"
- Confirmed in every single Toy Story film, wherein they say "Tri County Area".
- The series all began on November 22, 1995 and Andy was turning 7 the next week.
- Reason for the date: Tour Guide Barbie comments that Buzz Lightyear action figures were released in 1995, and Andy probably got Buzz when he was brand new (plus commercials were still being shown). Also, Andy is born sometime in the latter half of the year, as he is leaving for college at the age of 17. In addition, it would just be cute and Pixar-like to have the movie start on the same day it was released.
- No, it's summer. The toys comment on Sid getting kicked out of summer camp early, so it's summer, and the plants are green not fall colors which they would be by then.
- Reason for Andy turning 7: Making him just a year younger would make Mr. Potato Head's "He's been Andy's favorite since kindergarten!" comment very awkward: He's only been Andy's favorite for a few months? Making him even younger would involve time travel (then again Potato Head is a Time Lord...) or Andy being a child genius. Also, a full year does not pass between the original and 2, and we know that a) 2 and 3 are 10 years apart, and b) Andy is 17 in 3.
- Reason for the date: Tour Guide Barbie comments that Buzz Lightyear action figures were released in 1995, and Andy probably got Buzz when he was brand new (plus commercials were still being shown). Also, Andy is born sometime in the latter half of the year, as he is leaving for college at the age of 17. In addition, it would just be cute and Pixar-like to have the movie start on the same day it was released.
- The first sequel takes place in August of 1996.
- It's the summertime for a fact (Cowboy Camp), Andy nor Molly seem to be significantly older, and the calendar in Andy's room is in the month of August. Wheezy was likely obtained either on the Christmas shown at the end of the original, or sometime in between (though earlier in the year, as Woody implies his squeaker broke months ago).
- I believe Wheezy was supposed to be an old toy; in the background all along and then forgotten because he was on the shelf with a broken squeaker.
- It's the summertime for a fact (Cowboy Camp), Andy nor Molly seem to be significantly older, and the calendar in Andy's room is in the month of August. Wheezy was likely obtained either on the Christmas shown at the end of the original, or sometime in between (though earlier in the year, as Woody implies his squeaker broke months ago).
- The second sequel takes place in August of 2006.
- The calendar again says August, plus it just makes sense: class usually starts in late August or early September.
- Quod erat demonstrandum.
- Going by this, 4's prologue could take place in 1998 and the main plot in 2007.
- Will Wright and Mike Mozart seem to think he's perfect for it.
- That's an interesting idea, but it would have to be a few years after his job as a garbage worker.
- Maybe he's working his way through college?
- Alternatively he uses his access to trash as a garbage man to collect broken toys and junk and turns them into artwork as a side gig, making them "new toys" instead of breaking intact ones.
- That's an interesting idea, but it would have to be a few years after his job as a garbage worker.
- I wouldn't be too sure. Here's a picture of him as a teenager in the third film (for some this may be a spoiler): [[]] Does that look like Crocker?
- Not yet, at least. Don't forget, Mr. Crocker is well over 40 years old, while Sid is still probably in his late teens. Also, depending on how you look at it, Crocker might actually have been very handsome if it wasn't for Turner.
- Sid has to be 18 at the youngest. He's probably 19, or even 20. Andy starts the series at 6, and Sid is definitely not younger than that. 8 is a plausible age for Sid during Toy Story 1.
- Jossed. Mr. Crocker's full name is Denzel Crocker (correct me if I'm wrong, but still), and Sid's full name is Sid Phillips.
- Uh, that means jack squat. Ever heard of changing your name?
- How delusional do you have to be actually suggest that?
- Except we see Crocker as a kid and he was still "Denzel Crocker" then (and wore glasses as well). Not to mention he didn't have a sister, lived in the wrong house, and was explicitly stated to be a child of the Seventies as opposed to the modern day.
- Sid Phillips and Denzel Crocker look nothing alike, either as kids, teenagers, or adults. That, combined with the evidence one line above, should be enough to completely joss this guess. Sorry!
- Oh dear, people are taking WMG seriously again.
- Fine, for sake of the argument, while Sid most likely isn't going to be Mr. Crocker, he does/will indefinitely have Mr. Crocker- like complex. This is fairly obvious, as stated above from his psychological trauma issues, and the fact that should any additional evidence about Living Toys! wouldn't take much to push him over the edge. Heck, that might be a reason why he's working at the dump, seeing toys getting destroyed again probably calms him down!
- Uh, that means jack squat. Ever heard of changing your name?
- Sid apologized to the mutant toys, they came to life in front of him briefly and accepted the apology, and Sid pretended he never saw anything.
- Sid convinced himself it was all a bad dream, and regained sanity.
- He was probably just really nice to toys from then on. Heck, maybe he starts fixing up ones he finds at the dump.
- Yeah right. Next you'll be claiming that these "magic toys" of yours are behind the mysterious security tape vanishings at Sunyside Daycare.
- Psh, that's about as likely as toys taking a joyride on an airport suitcase carrier.
A telltale sign is how status quo is god. Even though Woody apparently gets his arm damaged, then repaired, it has to be damaged again in the Witch's scenario.
The entire thing is a challenge by the Witch, to see if you can come up with a human explanation. Is reasoning possible, or is the story a fantasy?
Following on, the toys are powered by magic (which is what the witch wants you to think). Children are able to use it to bring them to life in exciting scenarios (train robbery, etc.) but as soon as an adult enters, the magic toxin burns away the magic.
TL;DR: The entire thing is Umineko, for kids.
- Or perhaps that Witch was Maria using the Magic of Origins to bring all toys to life a la Sakutaro?
Once animated, a toy has to be destroyed to lose the spark of life, but they can be starved of "essence" without care or play, exactly equivalent to a human being starved of food and human contact. The Prospector, for instance, may have been animated simply by becoming a fixture in his dime store, only to go years without any real love or attention and thus kept barely alive and suffering. The cold admiration of a museum would keep him well-fed, if not ever really invested with love.
- Lotso, on the other hand, absorbed some of the Essence of Thurifuge, Maeljin of Envy, and was in the process of turning Sunnyside into a wound. This makes his overthrow even happier, since really, would you want a servant of the archetypal embodiment of jealousy in charge of a daycare's spritual reflection?
- You mean like Weeping Angels?
- This reminds me of the Muppet special called The Christmas Toy, in which, by the laws of this show, a toy cannot be caught acting alive in front of a human, or they'll be "frozen"- i.e., they plop down and lose their ability to come alive and just exist as a regular toy for all eternity! Granted, this effect happens immediately, not after a period of exposure with humans.
- But what about babies? Molly saw Woody and Buzz through the side-view mirror, and in the short Tin Toy, Billy chased Tinny around the room. I can understand when animals, like Buster and Scud, see them because they're not humans. But babies ARE humans.
- They don't remember things as clearly as adults or kids.
- But if babies see toys moving, wouldn't that make them lose their ability to come to life regardless of the baby remembering?
- They don't remember things as clearly as adults or kids.
- I hate you, I hate you and the above guesses, I was just getting over the nightmares of the weeping angels and now they're back.
- ** Way to ruin the franchise for me. I'm going to see those statues every time I watch these movies now. There is no escape...
- I hate you, I hate you and the above guesses, I was just getting over the nightmares of the weeping angels and now they're back.
- With the exception of Andy's family, Sid's family, Al (from Al's Toy Barn), and the day care kids from the third movie), there are no other families in the neighborhood (the [DVD commentary pointed out that most of the people at Pizza Planet in Toy Story 1 are just different-colored clones of Andy, Molly, and their mom). The kids that came to Andy's party have to be from another neighborhood (or are blissfully unaware that their parents are "missing").
- It's never really explained how Andy's toys, and Molly's Little Bo Peep figurine, gained the power to come to life. You'd think for a Disney movie there'd be some kind of origin, but this is Pixar where viewers are just supposed to accept the fact that the toys have the ability to come to life just out of the blue (hey, it worked for Cars) or draw their own conclusion about how the toys come to life (i.e., the power of being loved and played with is what keeps toys alive. If that were true, explain Sid's toys...or Jessie after her original owner left her on the side of the road in a donation box. Someone, please?). My conclusion is that, underneath her sunny, suburban mom exterior, Andy's mom practices some kind of witchcraft that turns the neighbors she hates into toys her son can play with forever (or at least until Toy Story 3). Here's a list of what each toy used to be:
- The Woody doll is Andy's father, who was punished for not spending time with his family (and probably beat Andy's mom or cheated on her).
- The Little Bo Peep figurine? The woman who stole Andy's dad away from the family and a fellow housewife and mom who always did things better than Andy's mom (including snag men). It does explain why the romantic relationship Bo has with Woody feels like it's been around for a long time.
- Mr. Potato Head was a grouchy neighbor who always yelled at Andy and his friends to get off the lawn and threw potatoes at them if they didn't comply.
- Hamm the piggy bank was a banker who was about to foreclose on the home.
- The Etch-a-Sketch was a hack caricaturist who was hired to do children's parties and never held down a steady, 9-to-5 job. He lived with Andy's family for a time because he got kicked out of his parents' basement and Andy's mom felt sorry for him, but when he began sponging off his hostess, Andy's mom used magic to get rid of him once and for all.
- Sarge (the green, plastic Army man) was a Shell-Shocked Veteran-turned-school bus driver. He fell under Andy's mom's spell after nearly crashing the bus with her precious little snowflake inside of it (this happened when Andy was in the second grade) thanks to one of his many 'Nam flashbacks. The Combat Carl that Sid blew up was Sarge's friend.
- The Speak 'n Spell was a nerdy kid who always defeated Andy in classroom spelling bees and drove Andy into being home-schooled.
- Rex (the plastic T-Rex toy) was just the wussy Goth and town Butt-Monkey. Andy's mom cast a spell on him accidentally, but since no one really cared about him, his disappearance wasn't a total loss.
- Slinky the Dog — a redneck who let his dog roam free around the neighborhood. It pissed off the block association (of which Andy's mom is head).
- The hockey puck: a "hockey mom" who repeatedly made fun of Andy's mom for coddling her son and daughter.
- Lenny the wind-up binoculars: a local Peeping Tom, natch.
- The rubber, squeaky shark: a nerdy video store clerk who always bothered Andy's mom with recommedations of the movie Jaws.
- Now, the other toys and the Buzz Lightyear doll weren't humans who are now sentenced to a lifetime plastic imprisonment, but Andy's mom's magic is so powerful that anything inanimate can come to life in there (with some exceptions: the bed, the crib, the walls, the posters, the books, the furniture, and the board games).
- This doesn't explain the other toys that don't belong to Andy, though. Why are Sid's toys alive? The Crane game Aliens? The Roundup Gang? Al's Toy Barn Toys? Sunnyside Daycare Toys? Tons of the toys don't have any form of relationship to Andy or his Mom.
- I didn't say it was a perfect Wild Mass Guessing, though The Round-Up Gang could have been a girl from Andy's mom's childhood (named Jessie) who loved cowboy stuff and made fun of Andy's mom for not being a tomboy (Stinky Pete is Jessie's grandfather and Bulls-Eye is the horse Jessie always rode) and the first person Andy's mom turned into a toy in an act of Carrie-style revenge. And who's to say that Andy's mom's magic is perfect? The toys that come to life and weren't people that were close to Andy's family could have been innocent victims who just woke up one day and found themselves encased in plastic due to a faulty spell. As for Sid's toys, well, they used to be Andy's toys, but Sid stole them and used them for his own twisted games.
- That's the wildest mass guessing I've ever read. It's more out there than the idea of Sid being Mr. Crocker.
- Yet it still pales in comparison to that Mr. Potato Head being a Timelord.
- Alternatively, she (or someone in the neighborhood) once tried to bring a toy to life, but thought it a failure since they never saw the toy move. Area of effect spell that doesn't wear off means living toys in the whole city for all time.
- Regarding that last one...maybe he was BURNED TO DEATH BY A BEAR WITH A FLAMETHROWER. Anything less would be too merciful. ...Yes, I am bitter.
- I like this theory.
- See, I was thinking his strawberry allergy made him puff up so that he suffocated from a closed off airway, which is why he's purple and fluffy.
- Alternately, Woody was an actor who appeared in many Westerns and was killed on the job when someone shot a gun that contained a real bullet instead of a blank. This would explain why he has no gun in his holster: he's too afraid to carry one.
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woody_Strode Check out the date of death. Then scroll down to the bottom.
- And another alternate theory for Lotso: he lived in a country where the original leader (Daisy, his owner) was assassinated or removed in some other horrible way and replaced with a dictator who tortured all the citizens of the country except those on his side or in places of power. Everyone who went against the dictator was (in terms of increasing severity): imprisoned (all Andy's toys), sent to The Box (Potato Head), brainwashed (Buzz), or killed (the incinerator scene). He has become the dictator that ended his life.
- Lotso is Stalin. Enough said.
- Hamm was a banker with clogged arteries, Bo Peep was a fragile Damsel in Distress who didn't get rescued in time, Ken was...well possibly strangled by an ascot but his murderer also cut off something. I'm guessing Rex and Trixie were paleontologists or animators/SFX people who worked on dinosaur movies, which somehow led to their demise.
- Mr. Pricklepants was a classically trained actor who died during a stage stunt, the little green men are victims of a radiation accident involving a claw, the Prospector was actually trapped in a mine and died, and Jessie was a cowgirl abandoned in the desert to die. Say, this WMG is fun!
- I've got some: Dolly was a fashion designer who got into messy sewing accident, Twitch was a entomologist who died from an poisonous insect bite, chatterphone was a gangster who died in a gunfight, Toroto was a anime animator who died while animating said movie, and stretch was a diver who was attacked by an octopus.
- Got a few more: Wheezy was a has-been singer who died onstage from lack of oxygen while singing a high-pitched song he could sing in his youth, Slinky was not only torn in half but by wild dogs no less, Bullseye was a champion race horse who broke a leg and was melted down for glue. Bo-peep's sheep became mutton.
- Maybe Bullseye was an actor in samurai movies who was shot in the eye by a bow on the job, Big Baby was a cattle farmer that tried to infiltrate another farm but was trampled and knocked into a well, the squeaky shark was a swimmer strangled by a rope, Sarge was a vetrean covered in acid, Zurg tied himself to a lighnining rod and was zapped in the teeth, Chunk was killed in a rock silde, Rocky was a wrestler thrown out of the arena onto a jagged rock, Etch A Sketch was sliced into pieces by a fan, and Speak-n-Spell fell off a staircase into a factory for PCs and was crushed.
- I have a wicked idea how this WMG applies to Sid's mutant toys, they started out a seperate toys until sid combined them, meaning two ( or more) souls sharing one body, Legs was a failing supermodel who died of botched liposuction combined with constuction worker who died when a crane fell on top of him, Babyface was Big Baby's younger brother in life who died from accidental decaptation combined with a steel worker who died when he fell into the molted metal, the toy who is half skateboard is part teenager who died in a skating accident and part pilot who's plane had crashed, some of them with mouths can talk but they are creeped out by the sound of their voice.
- The Speak N' Spell (forget if it had a name) was an elementary school teacher killed in an accident when he was correcting English papers. RC was a NASCAR racer who died in an automobile accident. Bo Peep was a shepherdess who died in some sort of freak slaughtering accident. The soldiers were... soldiers. The peapod kids from 3 were conjoined twins who died in-utero, and Buttercup GOT IMPALED BY A UNICORN YEAAAAHHH
- If I may get in on specifics for the soldiers, Sarge was clearly a Sergeant (and being the point of authority put a target on his head). The Minesweeper stepped on a landmine. The Medics had their field hospital bombed, or died while attempting to save someone else. The Combat Carl was blown up by a tank or mortar round (thus making his destruction recursive). The Paratroopers partook in an aerial assault (such as Market Garden or the invasion of Crete). The man Sarge refuses to leave quite nearly dies the same way twice: he was killed the first time by being crushed (possibly by a tank)
- I showed this theory to a friend, an he suggested that Wheezy had asthma and died of complications.
- Ooh, I've got one! Big Baby was an abandoned baby who died before anyone could find him! Damn, I just made myself sad...
- Slinky dog could've been a person who was crushed to death, cue accordion style corpse.
- Or maybe Slinky was a junkyard weiner dog that got on to that thing that crushes trash and got crushed to death, accordian-style.
- Forky is none other than the original Frankenstein's Monster, and Ducky and Bunny were chain gang members who were suffocated with something soft.
- Regarding that last one...maybe he was BURNED TO DEATH BY A BEAR WITH A FLAMETHROWER. Anything less would be too merciful. ...Yes, I am bitter.
- This also why Buzz initially believes he's the real Buzz: He hadn't acquired a soul yet.
- That wouldn't explain the quality increase throughout each of the movies. Compare Woody's model from Toy Story 1 to Toy Story 3 and you'll see that Woody is much more detailed (Fabric looks more realistic, light hits the materials all the toys are made from realisticaly, etc.) Not to mention the change in apperance of the humans and attention to detail in the backgrounds.
- Better cameras, not better toys.
- Or, maybe they videotaped them, then used Rotoscoping to create the animation. That way, Pixar's secret doesn't get out, because it matches the animation technology of the time.
- Better cameras, not better toys.
- This explains why the spin & say in 3 doesn't have a personality, but Andy's Etch-a-Sketch does.
- Andy's definition of their personalities wasn't spot on at all. He had Ham and Potato Head as villains, and Slinky Dog as their forcefield dog-thing. It also doesn't explain why Etch-a-Sketch had a personality, since Andy never gave it one in any of the skits.
- Could have been off screen, remember, we've only seen a fraction of Andy's playtime with his toys. For all we know, he might also have placed Mr. and Mrs. Potato Head as "good guys" as well as included Etch and his other toys in his play as well.
- That and villainous toys don't have to be villainous characters. (and likewise, see Pete and Lotso) They don't have to act like the kid thinks they do, they just need to be played with. We've also seen that some toys, especially Bonnie's, see themselves as 'actors' of sorts, that are 'cast' in various roles depending on what their kid is imagining today- even the villainous toys (such as Zurg) see themselves as Punch Clock Villains, while we've seen with Lotso that toys that seem nice don't necessarily have to be that way.
- So basically Kid Radd, then?
- Jossed. Short showed the toys faking a Hawaiian vacation for Barbie and Ken after they fail to crash Bonnie's family vacation there. However, Toy Story 4 has Woody and Bo reuniting.
- This will lead to existential questions, since Rex has been seen playing video games.
- The characters meeting Santa would actually make an interesting Christmas special.
My guess is that woody would have been an abusive boyfriend to Bo who would threaten to break her if she stepped out of line. It's possible that things like her startled reaction to woody getting angry Mr. Potato Head's "Yeah, Like the attic" line, and the fact that she didn't do much to stop the other toys throwing Woody out the moving van could be left-overs from this. It's also possible the sence when she's talking about how much Andy misses woody was added later in production, after there relationship was changed from abusive to loving, to remind the audience that Bo still loves Woody, despite they other toys loosing faith in him.