- The butler rarely ever actually did it, even in the oldest mystery novels. This a cliche to even think it was cliche.
- To be fair Dine and Carr both felt a need to explicitly forbid servants from being the culprit, so it's easy to see why people would think it use to be a common occurrence
- This cliche is the reason why the name of the butler in the Clue VCR game is Diddit.
- Actually Mrs. White is the housekeeper in most continuities.
- In each loop, Mr. Boddy will vanish under strange circumstances.
- Events will happen that result in the Boddy estate becoming a Closed Circle.
- The player who can find a mundane explanation for the death wins the round.
- Suggestions are Blue Truths and showing a card is using the Red Truth. (e.g. Professor Plum killed Mr. Boddy with the Revolver in the Lounge. Mr. Boddy was not killed in the Lounge.)
- Mr. Boddy's power is that he can vanish without a trace. The player who realizes this becomes the new Mr. Boddy.
- Opening the envelope in the stairwell is a Gold Truth, no?
- What about Mr. Green?
- Mr. Green was at home, sleeping with his wife.
- Or with Mr. Boddy's mom.
- Or, to go with some versions of the game/books, he was Boddy's personal priest to whom he had made a confession, and something he confessed to was so heinous it convinced Green he needed to die. Alternately he was a mafioso or other crime boss to whom Boddy owed money.
- Mr. Green was at home, sleeping with his wife.
- He lost Mr. Boddy's boddyguard by ducking through Guess Who? on his way from the Waddington-Hasbro crossing to get to Marven Gardens at Milton Bradley. The bowler hat and white facial hair threw off the fact that Mr. Monopoly was bald.
- It certainly smacks of him blatantly saying "I'm heterosexual, no, really!"... but given the circumstances, Mr. Green might have had any number of reasons to say that that doesn't imply he is gay. After all, he has just spent hours pretending to be a fussy, clumsy gay - it might, for example, be his way of having a bit of fun in telling the others that practically nothing they've learned of him during the night is true, including the thing he was blackmailed for.
- For that matter, remember early on in the film when they're first revealing that everyone has been blackmailed. Despite Green's willingness to confess to being gay, and his insistence that he doesn't feel any shame over it, he is nonetheless one of the people who insisted before hand that he was innocent of what he's being blackmailed for.
- This would even work with the change in his demeanor at the end: while he was really gay, it was the fussy, effeminate stereotype of gayness that was being faked, and in actuality, he was Straight Gay or even Manly Gay (to go with the need to keep his orientation hidden in those times). And if he was being blackmailed for something else and was innocent of that, he could still really be gay but have his claim of innocence be true.
- It also might explain why Wadsworth is so surprised at Green's casual reveal of what he's being blackmailed for: he's not surprised about the homosexuality, he's surprised Green claims to work for the State Department rather than the FBI.
- Makes no sense. In the third ending, Wadsworth is shown to be the villain. If he knew that Green was really FBI... why would he invite a cop into his crime den? Why would he be surprised at the J. Edgar Hoover call? He should have known from the start that Green was trouble for his plans. Also, why wouldn't Wadsworth correct him if he knew he was lying? The whole point of the exposure scene was to let out the facts. No one else in the scene was allowed to lie. There is no point to Green lying about where he works anyway.
- Alternately, he might have been separated from her to keep up appearances, so he might be celebrating his ability to come back to her.
- Alternately, Mr. Green's wife is a trans woman, and they were together before she transitioned.
- It makes sense if he's not the real Mr. Green. Perhaps the real Mr. Green, who is really gay and really works for the State Department, went to the FBI when he started being blackmailed, and they found an agent who could pass as him at the dinner party.
- It certainly smacks of him blatantly saying "I'm heterosexual, no, really!"... but given the circumstances, Mr. Green might have had any number of reasons to say that that doesn't imply he is gay. After all, he has just spent hours pretending to be a fussy, clumsy gay - it might, for example, be his way of having a bit of fun in telling the others that practically nothing they've learned of him during the night is true, including the thing he was blackmailed for.
- Mr. Green was right about him/her.
- Looks like I was beat to the punch. There was a reason Mr. Green recognized him/her and how he/she had been been familiar with men's restrooms. Miss Scarlett asks him/her about whether he/she (going to just say Peacock now) thought that 'men could use a bit of practice'. She may have recognized how Peacock more herself like some of her girl's clients or the occasional male worker. There is also how she mentioned Yvette finding secrets for her and listing Senator Peacock. No one saw Peacock's invitation so it may well have been that it was derisively using Mrs. to hint about what would be exposed if Peacock didn't arrive or it may have not given a gender.
- Huh? It's well stated that Senator Peacock is her husband. At the end of 2nd ending she shouts "I'm a Senator's wife!" You're saying that a sitting Senator poses as his own wife? Wonder how that's supposed to work at dinner parties... And if Peacock's big secret is that he's a crossdresser / transgender, .... why would he show up in that secret?
- Looks like I was beat to the punch. There was a reason Mr. Green recognized him/her and how he/she had been been familiar with men's restrooms. Miss Scarlett asks him/her about whether he/she (going to just say Peacock now) thought that 'men could use a bit of practice'. She may have recognized how Peacock more herself like some of her girl's clients or the occasional male worker. There is also how she mentioned Yvette finding secrets for her and listing Senator Peacock. No one saw Peacock's invitation so it may well have been that it was derisively using Mrs. to hint about what would be exposed if Peacock didn't arrive or it may have not given a gender.
- Mustard gas was not used in WWII.
- ...And of course:
- So in the "everybody did it" ending where Green shoots Wadsworth represents...?
- Maybe it represents the higher-ups firing the therapist?
- I'm not following you. What you've just described is not all three endings happening, it's just the third ending except that Scarlet kills Yvette, instead of White killing Yvette.
- This is why we don't play Clue, Sherlock. It's not possible for the victim to have done it.
- I do not know if that was based on a scene from the show, but it doesn't seem entirely likely to be there. Mostly because they play Cluedo and generally have Dr. Black. Of course, some media references Mr. Boddy as being Dr. Black's nephew from America, so it would give him quite a good motive. Might even give all the guests a motive to kill him in turn, for having ruined their lives by having people wrongly suspect them of being murderers.
- The problem with that theory is that if the Singing Telegram Girl was the real murderer, then why would Wadsworth (or Miss Scarlet, or Mrs. Peacock in the other two endings) not reveal that she had murdered all the other victims?
- The problem with this is Yvette's last words. If she was meeting Miss Scarlet as arranged, why exclaim "It's you!"? Unless she was a double agent for one of the other guests...
- Or as noted on another page, the exclamation meant that she realized Miss Scarlet was the actual murderer (of the Motorist, at this point). Colonel Mustard was one of her (and thus Miss Scarlet's) clients, so he may well have told Yvette of what the Motorist had on him and if he did so, she may have assumed that Colonel Mustard had killed the Motorist, not Miss Scarlet (who may have learned of the Motorist from Yvette).
- Another possible point in favor of this: the first ending is the one with the most flashbacks showing how the murders were committed—in fact it's the only one to show them for the Cook, Mr. Boddy, and the Singing Telegram Girl; the second shows none, and the third only shows the Motorist, Yvette, and the Cop, and the last two also appeared in the first ending. It additionally included explanations for things not touched on in the other endings like why no one heard the Cook scream (because of Mrs. Peacock and the poisoned brandy).
- At least in the United States, telephone equipment receives power from the phone line directly, rather than relying on the electric utility. Phone companies provision generators to keep this (low-voltage DC) supply available even when utility power goes offline, precisely so that telephones keep working during a power outage. That's why the only phones you see with power cords are wireless, or equipped with a built-in answering machine, or otherwise outside the rather strict regulations on how much power an instrument may draw from the phone line, and for what purpose.
- Landline phones don't get power from the same power lines as the house. Telephone lines are separate lines and they provide enough power (a few volts) for a phone to work. This is still true today, presuming you have a non-cordless phone and an honest-to-bob landline, which hardly anyone does anymore. TLDR cutting the house power wouldn't affect the phone. And besides, the cop *does* notice when the hook is depressed by the person with the lead pipe, cutting the call. This is Aluminum Christmas Trees.
Mr. Boddy is the devil and the Jehovah's Witness/FBI chief is an incarnation of God ("The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!"/"You ain't just whistlin' dixie"). Each of the houseguests is reliving the guilt for their crimes, and go to hell or heaven depending upon whether they are murdered or confess to the murder. Each time they are caught without freely confessing, however, the whole scenario begins again ad infinitum. Possibly Wadsworth may even be a representative of Death himself. Mr. Green is in fact an Angel sent as Heaven's emissary to watch over the whole affair - hence his constant claim that he didn't do it, his servile personality and his seemingly fluid sexuality.
- That...is friggin awesome! You... are brilliant. The movie just became like 5 times cooler than it already was. I think I like this WMG the best - it actually kinda works.
- I thank you. They said my Comp. Lit. degree was useless! But I proved them!
- You certainly did.
- I thank you. They said my Comp. Lit. degree was useless! But I proved them!
- Alternately, the real Mr. Green doesn't even look like the FBI agent from the movie. The FBI got wind that a man from the State Department was being blackmailed, and discovered upon questioning him that the blackmailer didn't know what their victim actually looked like: the blackmailer's evidence in Green's case was illicit love letters, not photos. When the real Green received the invitation to Hill House, they infiltrated an agent of the right age and general physical type into the gathering in the true extortion victim's place.
A TREE! The main Film page suggests this is communism simply a red herring caused by a tree branch but none is visible outside to be within striking range – it is still blowing and no tree is tapping the window or poking the hole it has created. Additionally – there is no sign of broken glass on the floor of the ballroom (none seen, none heard underfoot) meaning the glass was broken from the inside outward. So if it was broken by a branch, it would have to be between the curtain and the window.
- It was already broken. None of them know the house and nobody had previously been in the ballroom.
Mostly a headcanon, but I find the idea of Boddy trying to blackmail the wrong damn person, and getting the FBI sicced on him as a result, quite amusing.
- Hoover was accused throughout his life of being homosexual. Maybe when Green claimed to be such, he was talking about the actual person he was representing.
- That also explains why Wadworth is confused, especially in the third ending where he's really Mr. Boddy.
- Another theory is that both paths are below ground. One path is underneath the other.
According to Wadsworth, White snuck downstairs from the second floor, turned off the power to the house, grabbed the rope, then waited in the billiard room to kill Yvette.
However, when the power goes out, we see White upstairs screaming her head off in a child's room. We continue to hear her in the very next shot, which shows Yvette making her way downstairs from the attic. When we next see Yvette, she slips into the billiard room where her killer is waiting. How could White possibly go downstairs to shut off the power, go back upstairs to scream, go back downstairs to the billiard room before Yvette, kill Yvette, then go back upstairs one last time to the same spot in the child's room WITH NOT ONE OTHER PERSON SEEING HER?!
To make a long story short, (Too late!) White physically couldn't have done it.
(...I may have had to study this film in middle school, and while I will forever adore it, this REALLY stood out to me when having to guess who actually could have done it. There are multiple other issues with the "true" ending, but this to me was the most egregious.)
So, here's the way I see it happening: Wadsworth and Boddy are actually buddies, not employer/butler. Together they'd amassed a network of informants and were blackmailing people.
The "gather blackmailed persons together for a dinner party and present them with their blackmailer" is a bit of theater they've performed several times with other people they've been blackmailing. This is because there are statutes of limitations for the actual criminal acts they are blackmailing people for (with the exception of murder, which has no So L) and if they didn't get their victims on the hook again some of them may have decided to just take the scandal instead of continually shelling out for the blackmail.
This explains two major plot holes I've long held for the movie - first, why Boddy would just "play along" with Wadsworth's game if he was really the "widower butler slave to Wadsworth" (after the suicide of his wife). Second, Wadsworth's otherwise sudden and sharp call of the police being on the way just before the first attempt on Boddy's life in the study by Professor Plum using the revolver.
((the bit with Boddy running and Wadsworth chasing is a preplanned bit of staging that they still play out just in case someone from the party follows behind))
((also, it's very strange that both Wadsworth and Yvette are absent when the party runs into the kitchen looking for the cook, only to have Plum and Peacock both disappear and Wadsworth alone reappear a few moments later... Peacock and Plum reappear a few moments later but Yvette never shows up in the kitchen))
The way the night usually goes is that the gun has special loads that fire a nonlethal. Wadsworth and Boddy both have blood packs ready to go to play "dead" if they feel the impact of the shot.
But as Wadsworth was planning on wrapping up their network he loaded the gun with real bullets. When Boddy felt the real shot slap past his ear, he realized what his partner was planning and played dead until an opportunity presented to remove himself. Which failed because Plum thinking he was taking out the blackmailer killed Boddy.
Wadsworth then kept up the pressure and pretense, and having made sure to bring in the informants who would be recognized by the victims as the way "Boddy" had found out about them, and got all but Green to commit a murder that would guarantee to never let his victims escape.