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Could anyone please tell me why Better Call Saul is listed here? I'm just interested as I can't find any real evidence of it being especially popular with LGBT viewers. Also despite what the entry says the show *does* have at least one LGBT character and it covers homophobia to a small extent.
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I'd be curious to see where the information is coming from that lead to the conclusion of BCS having a large LGBTQ fanbase.
"* While it was roundly condemned by most LGBT groups on release for its flawed portrayal of transsexuality, The Silence of the Lambs has since been greatly re-appraised by certain (unfortunately often quite transphobic) parts of the lesbian community. Partly because of Jodie Foster having since come out as a lesbian and their identification with Clarice's struggles in a violent, male-dominated world, but especially because of the aforementioned portrayal of transsexuality, as some lesbians Love to Hate Buffalo Bill, seeing the character as emblematic of the growing amount of people with XY chromosomes they feel the rest of the LGBT movement is pressuring them to accept into their communities."
I know the parenthesis talks about the transphobia, but the second bit is way too sympathetic to the said transphobes. Is there a way to edit it?
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Cut the parenthesis and every past "male-dominated world". We really shouldn't be making entries on this page about works that appeal to TER Fs.
Got it. Will add back.
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I'm separating the Literature and Mythology section, because (a) it's rare to treat mythology as literature around the wiki and (b) almost half of the literature examples have nothing to do with a religion or a mythology.
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This is a title.
Why's this YMMV. Seems like it would be trivia.
You fell victim to one of the classic blunders!
A lot of the examples seem to just assume that lots of slash shipping means the show has a big LGBT fanbase.
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Indeed. Don't they know straight people ship slash to.
At least half of the examples need to either cut or supported by something more.
Um I'm kind of wondering about the title.
There are lots of examples involving LGB people but I don't see barely any about T people.
I think gay fanbase would be a better and more obvious name
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Then let's just look for Trans related examples!
Note that "LGBT" itself is already incomplete (but I dount anyone will get the meaning of GSM), so I don't think calling the page "Gay Fanbase" will do it any favors.
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Yep, narrowing the title is completely pointless here.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
I wonder what an inversion of this trope would be like... Social Conservative Fanbase, high quality wholesome works which try to avoid or minimize Getting Crap Past the Radar and Avoid the Dreaded G Rating
Like that will ever happen :P
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I'm not sure if a page like that would be safe enough (I mean in terms of the potential Flame Bait). Plus, there's already Periphery Hatedom which can cover cases like that.
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Why is this a trope? LGBT people love things. Straight people love things. Ace people love things. This trope just seems kinda pointless.
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This is for works that have a LGBT following because of the LGBT themes and characters, even if the series themselves are not explicitly LGBT. This is similar to Fandom Nod, and it's far from pointless.
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I think some of the description needs to be rewritten, then, because I wasn't getting that from it.
Before doing any major changes to the description, though, you should look for opinions from other people. Can you see if you can start a Trope Repair Shop thread? Right now there's an ongoing Image thread but that's not the place to talk about this.
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Fan Yay is now LGBT Fanbase per TRS
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Is it just me or were most of the examples added by heterosexuals with a clicheed view of gays? Everything on this page seems to imply that only big, muskly, hairy men or those in leather fetish wear could induce Fan Yay. Esp. bad in the Gargoyles example because I know lots of gays that lurve for lex but not a single one that likes goliath or broadway, but also the RL section seemed really weird.
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Oh, trust me, I am quite gay. The editor JK Roo is quite gay. There are gay editors here, don't worry.
You know, if you have additional information, you can add it. The page can be inclusive. That's good trope-page editing anyway. Now me, and most of the gay editors I know of who edit this page, are less into Yaoi/Bishōnen/The Twink appeal and more into Bara/Straight Gay/Hard Gay/Leather Man appeal. There might be a lot of gay guys who like Lexington, but in my own experience, I just don't know any—all the guys I know, if they're into any Gargoyles characters, are into Goliath or Brooklyn or Broadway or sometimes Hudson—the big brawny guys, the muscle-daddies, etc. And lesbian Fan Yay...other than Xena, I really know next to nothing about it.
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Could anyone help me neaten the Real Life section? I covered a lot of details, but it's a bit cluttered, and I'm not entirely sure how to go about neatening it. I declined to make more indented bullet lists because I was afraid it would be even more cluttered. My writing paragraph structure sucks sometimes.
- Star Trek TOS unfortunately but predictably reacted to dispel this fanbase. It's in the third season, after Word of Gay had started floating about, that Kirk starts actually earning that reputation of being a heterosexual playboy.
I'd argue with this. The first Slash Fic wasn't published until 1974, it's doubtful that the creators would have known about it when the series was still being produced. (And the movies don't exactly go the "heterosexual playboy" route.)
Now, what is this trope actually about? I don't see how this is in any way different to plain Ho Yay.
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Something that isn't targeted to the GLBT community becomes beloved by the GLBT community.
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Thanks. I tried to clean up the opening paragraph to make that more clear. Estrogen Brigade already appeared further down, so I didn't have to worry about it. But I couldn't save the link to Stupid Sexy Flanders. If someone can fit it back in where it makes sense, that'd be cool.
Also, I used LGBT community, since that's the way I've always heard it.
Finally, I liked your description so much that I copied it to the Laconic version of this trope. It can probably get shorter, but it's a good start.
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"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman