This page is for WMGs set within the Twilight universe. Crossover speculation involving other canons should instead be added to the dedicated page here.
... Aliens.
They refer to themselves as "vampires", but they're different from traditional vampires, what with the sparkling skin, absence of protruding fangs, and so forth. It's worth considering whether they're some other kind of immortal creature and just call themselves vampires because it sounds sexier. As for which, the author has said she was much more interested in science fiction than fantasy as a teenager, and her descriptions of vampire biology sound more like aliens than like resurrected corpses.
- It's interesting to note that one episode of Doctor Who had aliens disguising themselves as vampires in Renaissance-era Venice. Coincidence? Perhaps...
- The Cullens are the stage between regular vampires and the vampires from "Record of Fallen Vampire" - another 1,000 years, and they'll have completely lost their need for blood.
- Someone one deviantART actually presented a scientific argument to back up this theory.
- The Thing (1982): Their bite makes you one of them, they can't get killed by traditional means, and the only way to be sure they are dead is to kill them with fire.
...Fey.
Their sparkles have made it into legend/pop culture after all - vampires aren't linked with sparkling, but fairies often have been. The non-Vegetarian Vampires are evil races of fey that feed off humans.
...Snowlems.
They sparkle in the sun (as snow does on a sunny day), they're cold, and fire is deadly to them.
- This finally explains why Edward has a corncob pipe, a button nose, and two eyes made out of coal. There must have been some magic in that old silk hat they found.
...Deluded Serial Killer Fans.
Carlisle is another kind of Doctor (or rather, nurse) whose name is really Charles; unlike Carmilla, he's lazy in the pseudonym department. His "family" is made up of his actual family and "fans" who deluded themselves into believing they're vampires, then became cannibalistic and finally carnivorous.
...Mutants.
In this universe there is a pair of vampire chromosomes, that is carried by some special humans that gets triggered once they get in contact with the venom. The extra genes exists on the humans before they are bitten and once in contact with the venom begins the transformation, that is why all of the vampires have a special trait, strength, beauty and/or special powers, those are the things vampires are attracted to select a new member of their coven because it shows the presence of the extra genes. We can see that gifted vampires usually have gifted relatives (Alec and Jane, Bella and Renesmee...) If a non mutant human is bitten then he just becomes food. The characters of course understand this the other way around and think that the venom adds the extra gene, the venom only makes it active. Bella, Alice, Jane, Alec, Didyme... showed their special traits before their transformations.
...Literal Fallen Angels.
The Cullens are fallen angels who want to redeem themselves and have been given semi-tangible human forms on Earth as a sort of purgatory. The whole shtick about eating humans is nonsense used to explain why they don't eat for real. The bad vampires are true fallen angels who just want to send as many humans to hell as possible. Bella doesn't become a vampire; she dies from giving birth to Nessie because an angel's birth is too much strain for a human. Then Bella becomes an angel as well, despite never knowing the truth.
...Humans suffering from a mutant form of scleroderma.
Minus the immobilization, horrific pain and suffocation, plus sparkles! From The Hypochondriac's Pocket Guide to Horrible Diseases You Probably Already Have: "Scleroderma is a chronic autoimmune disease that causes hardening and tightening of the skin and its connective tissue. The very name of the disease is Greek for 'hard skin.'"
- Alternatively, humans who got their hands on an improved version of the skin cream from Catwoman (2004).
...The creators of the humans.
The vampires were the original dominant species of earth. Some sort of disease caused them to become cannibalistic and aggressive. They almost met the fall of their civilization by literally eating themselves, until they came with a solution: they created an inferior race of vampires called humans, and started breeding them as livestock. The smell and taste of the human blood became more and more stronger by selectively breeding them. The vampires started over-breeding the humans, and soon the human herds were too numerous, causing them to escape and overpopulate earth, out numbering their creators, building their own civilization, and eventually forgetting about the true origin of their species....
Marble statues that have been animated
In the New Moon movie, Edward is fighting Felix, who slams him into a staircase. When this happens, his face literally cracks like the marble statue Bella compares him to, though it quickly heals. This is a clue to the true origins of vampires. Years and years ago, a god was bored and made a bunch of marble statues of gorgeous humans. They were then brought to life, but because they were marble, they could only survive on blood. This becomes the origin of the Greek myth of Galatea, where a sculptor makes a statue of a beautiful woman and Aphrodite brings it to life.
- So...like Weeping Angels? Just a little bit?
...a weapon intended to wipe out humanity from the future.
In the distant future, AI is invented and it instantly turns evil. It decides to wipe out humanity with something that will be extremely hard to eradicate, that won't consume many resources and that will spread very easily.
In short, the AI needs a super-plague. However, it's quite a bit into the future if we've got AI, therefore biological viruses are probably unreliable with the far-future technology. So, what does it do? Expanding on one of the above guesses (although this is a generic guess and unrelated to Stargate), it invents "venom", actually self-replicating nanotechnological plague, which - if injected into a human - instantly transforms it into a "vampire".
Think about it. When you look at a Twilight vampire as a "weapon against humans" they literally have no weaknesses whatsoever. They, as Edward notes, are perfect predators and they are ridiculously overpowered and over-engineered in comparison to their intended prey. They are super-strong, super-fast, super-smart (at least they possess an Eidetic Memory), super-pretty, heal extremely quickly, have an insatiable hunger for human blood, reproduce via a single bite and have nifty supernatural powers to boot. This is because the AI simply wanted to cover all the bases - he needed a weapon that would be extremely versatile, able to be extremely tough in direct combat and still be capable of subtlety, stealth, seduction and disguise.
This explains a lot about the story, since it's just so weird for a vampire story. For example, it uses the Bite=Vampire model of vampire turning which is almost a Discredited Trope and only makes sense if vampires are intended to reproduce extremely quickly for some reason. Without the traditional weaknesses of vampires, they seem far less "supernatural" and more "sciency"(but it's a very soft science). Vampires sparkle and have a diamond-like skin because their skin is made of carbon nanotubes(admittedly, I'm not sure if carbon nanotubes would sparkle but oh well...). Since they're supposed to be self-sufficient, the nanobots that make a vampire who he is operate by consuming ATP found in the blood. They have eidetic memories because the machines attach themselves to their neurons and enhance their cognition and reflexes. They don't need to breathe because they serve as respirocytes(artificial red blood cells) whose efficiency is so high that they are able to not-breathe for hours. They're immortal because biological immortality is possible with this level of technology, so why not make them immortal?
Additionally - this is not known in the Twilight novels - the nanobots attached to their neurons serve as a way to hijack their brains and control them. After the AI has defeated humanity, it will have an entire army of able slaves who can function simply by consuming blood(which would be easily manufactured with this level of technology).
Vampires in the Twilight novel are only capable of existing as they are(which is - without having an exponential growth in population) because the AI has not been invented yet and therefore, they retain their free will. As for how they got here? Simple, a time travel fluke transported a vampire into the distant past and freed him from the control of the AI.
An Alien Space Marine Plague.
The real clincher is their sparkly skin. That isn't necessary to attract humans, or for any biological process, AND it only shows up under high intensity light(IE, the sun). Clearly it was engineered, and clearly it is laser armor. So you have a creature that runs on its enemies, can create new soldiers from enemies, doesn't have to breathe, can apparently run essentially indefinitely without an external power source...
The strategy becomes absurdly simple. Find any life-bearing planets in the surrounding 1000 light years, shoot a few of your troops at each of them (don't even have to bother with spaceships), and when they get there they begin to infect the population. With they way they spread the infection (via bite), a single vampire could infect thousands per day, and each of those could infect thousands themselves. Within a year the entire planet would be subverted from the inside, and the process can begin anew.
Unfortunately, the first people that got infected were the Volturi, and they had powers that most people don't have. Aro could read minds and saw what was going to happen to the planet, and got Chelsea to cut his link to the aliens, allowing him to act freely. They then killed the alien vampire and decided that the best way to stay off the radar was to keep too large a presence from being detected on the planet so nobody checked up on them, hence the secrecy rules that were instated.
Secrecy means you have to train each vampire for a significant period of time before they're able to go out without infecting hundreds of people like they're meant to, and their constant raids and enforcement have kept the vampire population relatively steady for over two thousand years, and therefore kept humanity under the radar for the vampire invasion!
That also explains why Bella was such a perfect person when she became a vampire; the bloodlust and lack of emotional control are caused by the invasion of your mind by a hostile alien force. Bella, having a perfect shield around her mind, naturally wouldn't be affected. And when she's focusing on keeping her shield off, she's focusing too hard to be taken control of!
Other
They may be pale and immortal, and they may drink blood, but they don't share any other traits with the common perception of vampires: not aversions to crosses and holy water, not death by a stake to the heart or sunlight, nor any inability to pass over running water. They each have a specialized power beyond super senses and strength. Instead of Stephenie Meyer simply killing vampire folklore, it turns out that there was just a misconception with the species, like the werewolf/shapeshifter thing. They also can't divulge their secret identity and power to the Muggles, lest the antagonists kill them.
...Not who/what you think.
The Sparkles are in charge. The "Sparkles" are a parasitic energy-creature able to possess and alter humans, creating the vampires.
...Descendants of Cain.
- Given that vampires had messed up with human mythology for so long. They also erase their real origin. When Cain killed his brother Abel he drank his blood, since they first humans were perfect he absorbed his brothers good traits and became twice, stronger, prettier, tougher to kill and smarter. When God gave him the mark so humans could identified him: His diamond like skin that could sparkle during direct sunlight, one of the secondary effects was immortality and coldness. Cain left the roam around the earth and eventually he couldn't control his growing thirst for blood and bite some people. A few of them became vampires. Cain eventually learned to control himself by drinking from animals but when he tried to make the other vampires to do the same they killed him. Thus till the Denalis and the Cullens no vampire knew about drinking from animals. Is posible that some of the most ancient ones remember that story, but they don't want anyone to try and become a vegetarian, because they like human blood the best and don't want anyone to be able to tell them that their diet is wrong.
...There are no vampires, the Cullens are a cult.
Think about it. They're promising Bella immortality in exchange for joining them. They isolate her from her friends and family, and strip her of her ability to choose (to be fair, she doesn't have the brains to choose on her own). The Volturi are a group trying to to deprogram Bella, and the Cullens are convincing her that they're evil vampires.
...Synthetic vampires.
When fighting actual vampires, people tried to fight back by creating their own group of vampires via artificial means(Magitek, genetic engineering, experiments with vampire blood? Take your pick). Since it didn't involve the usual Black Magic, Deal with the Devil or being bitten by a vampire, they were merely imitations, lacking many of the strengths and weaknesses of true vampires. They were given other abilities to compensate though.
...The Ultimate Life Form.
They don't age. They're almost indestructible. They can survive in any time of the day, their very blood is poisonous, and can consume anything with blood in it. In essence, they're the ultimate predator. Why? It's the result of a symbiotic pathogen aka the actual Ultimate Lifeform. It mutates its host into perfect predators, allowing itself to spread all across the planet. Said pathogen may be natural, or could have been created by a scientist who wanted to "improve" humanity.
...An alien disease
- They were genetically engineered specifically to assimilate/eradicate the human race.
- This is a common trait in Eerie Pale Skinned Brunettes.
- Am eerie, pale-skinned, and brunette, can confirm.
- Actually, vampire pigment is silvery, instead of the brown melanine like in humans. A sparkly skin is the vampire equivalent of a tan.
One-Winged Angel form from Kirby. - So they're not sparkling, just sparking?
- "This is why we don't show ourselves in sunlight." woosh "People would know we're fucking metal!" (Air Guitar)
- Well, they are dead. I don't think that only applies to their bodies.
- Bear with me, because this is a long one...
- So, a common WTF with the series is that Stephanie Meyer fails at biology. However, since she is the author of the story and insist that "science" is the premise of her vampires, I will attempt to think like Stephanie Meyer and find an excuse as to how her Vampires have an erection and can have sperm. S Meyer, if you are reading this, there is no need to thank me...
- So, whenever a vampire sucks a human and/or animals blood, the blood HAS to go somewhere and be stored somewhere so that the blood can be stored within the vampire for nutrition. However, it appears that it does not enter the circulation of the body, nor does it seem to enter the stomach. Think about it. Within all of those fight scenes, not a single drop of blood ever seems to be dropped, and most of the blows seem to be aimed at the upper body. Therfore, at some point, the stomach (as well as the upper body as a whole) would of been punctured at some point. The lower body, however, tends to come away intact. Therefore, knowing that the blood can not be in the legs as it does not enter circulation, my thought process is that I never saw a vampire sliced in his naughty place, therefore, the blood is stored with in the male vampires penis. That is the only logical, scientific, explanation.
- As for the sperm: Blood is widely known to have two different types of cells, "red" and "white" and though I do not know what either of those actually do, I do know that sperm is white. THEREFORE, the red blood cells are kept in storage within the actual shaft of the penis, resulting in the vampire having a constant erection, which is also why many of the young males in Twilight show aggresive behavior (Emment is a jock. Jasper goes apeshit over a paper cut. I don't HAVE to explain Edward.) they, seriously, have no blood rushing to the brain, so the penis is their new primary organ that they use to think...
- Anyway, back to the sperm... the white blood cells are converted into sperm cells via a process I like to call "Meyersation" in which a whole bunch of sciency things happen to result in this. Research on Meyersation and how it works is still on going, however one bonofide expert has been quoted as saying "Bullshit." so that means it must be true.
- Now, I know what you are thinking, "what happens to the women and the blood they suck?" which is a very good question... And I think I have an answer. The blood actually stored within the egg. This interferes with the baby making process, which is why female vampires cannot get pregnant, as the blood blocks the sperm out. However, if a female vampire went MONTHS without eating and somehow did not die, she could, in theory at least, become pregnant. However, it seems that the likely hood of this is rather low...
...An Unreliable Narrator.Edward is a particularly sadistic traditional vampire who likes to play with his food using his powers of mesmerism to force an illusion- her life, after the first couple days in Forks- on Bella. This explains why they seem to lack weaknesses. He plans on ending the illusion, and her life, in the most sadistic way he can imagine.
- Bella = The Renfield. Bellafield.
- Meyer's upcoming book is the events of the first book, told from Edward's point of view. THEN we'll see if Bella is an unreliable narrator.
- Only if it comes up. Backlash over a leaked rough draft might have burnt up her will to write it.
- That's actually how a friend pitched the book after this Troper commented on how boring it was that all of the "good" characters were described as incredibly beautiful. She said that it was all from Bella's POV, that Bella compared them to herself, and that Bella didn't see herself as very pretty. Which raised more questions in this Troper's mind...
...Suffering from schizophrenia.She moved to Forks because her mother died in a car crash, unhinging Bella from reality. She tells herself she moved to be a good daughter because she can't face reality. In fact, Bella isn't even her real name. She just goes by that because she wants to be seen as special.
After alienating her peers at school, she created the perfect boyfriend out of her subconscious mind to fall tragically in love with her. Edward Cullen doesn't actually exist.
- The reason Edward "left her" in New Moon is because she was put in a psych ward where she was given medication to control her delusions.She was kept there for most of the blank-page months in the book, but is sent home after her delusions seem to be under control. Some of her relationship with Jacob was real,and he tries to help her. However, she tragically slips back into her delusions, now incorporating him into them.
- That... actually, it makes much more logical sense when you think about it in context. O.o
- Especially when one considers that she seems to have some bizarre sort of Munchausen by proxy syndrome, totally convinced that her parents are unable to fix dinner, housekeep, or generally do anything without her around to help (despite the fact that both parents would have had to have lived alone and without her help for some time and presumably got by quite well). Adding in the fact that her clumsiness could be caused by brain tumors...
- That... actually, it makes much more logical sense when you think about it in context. O.o
...Really stoned.
...A delusional demon and is controlling the town she lives in.
- This explains why nothing behaves the way it should (vampires that don't ash in the sun? Poppycock!), and why an ages-old vampire would even be interested in her. She simply has the power to control everyone in town to play out her bizarre supernatural fantasies. After the series, she'll 'reboot' the town and start again.
- Sounds like someone direly needs a Delusional Deity Showdown with Haruhi Suzumiya. Forty quatloos on the anime import.
- You want to upset Haruhi and potentially destroy all of creation just to off an annoying high-school fantasy? Okay!
- No! You'll give her ideas and Kyon will end up a vampire.
- Don't forget Alessa from Silent Hill.
- Maybe she's the kid from that one episode of the Twilight Zone.
- You want to upset Haruhi and potentially destroy all of creation just to off an annoying high-school fantasy? Okay!
...Addictive to vampires.Her blood, that is. Note: The trailer to the movie brought this idea up. Vampires are attracted to Bella, not because of anything special about her, but because of a genetic fluke or some other reason that makes her biochemical makeup especially delicious to vampires.
- That would explain why she's such a
Black Hole Sue as far as the vampires are concerned. - I think this bit is actually canon. Seriously, she has some special blood that smells real nice. She's Edward's heroin. *nods*
- It IS canon! Bella's what's known as a "singer" for Edward (her blood 'sings' for him and is particularly irresistible, and human Alice was also this for James) but her blood has been noted to be particularly sweet in general.
...Dead after giving birth to Renesmee; the remainder of Breaking Dawn is a morphine-induced hallucination as she dies.This explains why the kid grew up so fast, as well as why everything worked out perfectly for everyone - Bella's subconscious took great pains to wrap up dangling plot threads and ensure a happy ending. Either that, or Edward killed Bella on their honeymoon and everything after that point is a hallucination, including the whacked-out pregnancy and Edward's suggestion that they have Jacob impregnate Bella instead.
- Why did you have to say that!?
- That isn't a Downer Ending! That's the only way this book could end happily! The neurotic immature little girl dies, vampirekind is spared the horror of Renesmee the halfbreed, and the mutant pseudovampires are burned! Ah, joy...
- The real title of the book is Breaking Down.
- This. Is. Win.
- Why did you have to say that!?
...A Serial Killer.Think about it. Despite calling herself a non-violent person, she frequently has violent thoughts about others. She left Phoenix in a hurry. She stated she was 'unpopular' there. Despite calling herself selfless, she never demonstrates it during the books. The real reason she left Phoenix is because she snapped and killed her whole school. Edward, in fact, can read her mind, and is feeding her obsession so that she doesn't go ahead and kill everyone in Forks for being too nice. (Note: this doesn't excuse his emotional abuse.) Finally, I present the following quote:
- This intermeshes well with the thought of Edward-as-sadist-manipulator— he's capable of latching on to her so perfectly, so completely, because they are completely like-minded. They are both compelled to kill. They're like Leopold and Loeb, only straight. And sparkly!
- Alternatively, Edward isn't a vampire at all, but is a superhero/vigilante with rather impressive psychic powers, trying to keep Bella from snapping until he can get her into custody with risking lives/until he can gather sufficient evidence to convict by being her perfect fantasy, which just so happens to be a sparkly vampire. Perhaps Jacob discovers this but hasn't heard the serial killer part of the story and is attempting to bring her back to reality. If Edward's projections conflict with him occasionally, this would explain some of his odd personality switches.
...Sick and using Edward to live.Think about it: Why is she so desperate for Edward to change her. It's because she dying from a deadly illness and wanted him to change her so she could wouldn't have to die.
- Alternately, Bella is just plain using Edward— once she saw how perfect his family was and how good immortal life could be, she burrowed deeper into the Cullen clan's inner circle and once she "got" vampirism for herself, made plans to leave. Renesmee curtailed this effort a bit but she will eventually flee the Cullens, taking a substantial chunk of their wealth and making herself pretty damn well hidden. Then, she shall go on to rule the world. Since the Cullens seem fairly adverse to killing humans, and Bella in this theory is not (she's a vampire now, and her human aloofness and feeling like she doesn't fit in is exaggerated by it) she would easily become a far more ruthless, cold-hearted killer.
- Wait, that wasn't canon?
- Well, she certainly had little guilt about using Jacob... So she is definitely capable of this.
...A victim of child abuse.Think about it. She blames herself when things go wrong (internalizing the abuse) is passive in the extreme, lets her dad ground her despite being 18 is attracted to dangerous men...
- She was certainly neglected by Renee so there is that...
...A narcissist.Read this page and see if the symptoms of narcissism don't scream "BELLA SWAN!" to you.
- If that description's anything to go by, the entire cast's composed of narcissists. Though Bella and Edward are the most striking examples.
- The only way this could be more confirmed is if Stephenie Meyer admitted it.
- Could be she's a narcissist and thinks that's how everyone is.
...The exact opposite—she hates herself.When she cut herself and the Cullens had to restrain themselves from attacking her, she called it her fault. When, as a vampire, she nearly attacked someone, it was again her fault. Combine this with Jacob's comment that she should have lived when there were still martyrs, and it indicates that she applies far higher standards to herself than others, and punishes herself for not living up to them. This would explain why she acts like The Atoner without being The Atoner, and why she shows so little of a spine in the earlier works. .
...The only one who can see the people of Forks, because they're all dead, Jake.Everyone, including her father, is dead. Bella can see them as some sort of ghost-whisperer. The Cullens are just the oldest, because ghosts who are closest to moving on begin to sparkle. Bella actually ran away, and her mother only finds her when she is wounded by evil ghosts who want to make her join them. Eventually, Bella's mind can't take the strain of seeing an entire town's worth of ghosts, and she snaps. From then on, Bella is actually in a psych ward, being visited by the ghosts of Forks. Nessie is just the fantasy of a child she knows she can never have because she's sterile.
...created to act as 'bait' for vampires, meant to draw them where they could be captured, studied, and/or killed.Hew blood was specifically designed to smell good to vampires. Unfortunately for the group that arranged for this, something happened to them before they could put their plan fully into effect.
- Probably killed themselves in shame after seeing how stupid they made her.
...the Twilight-world equivalent of a zombie.The vampires of Twilight have next to none of the weaknesses of the original, and only resemble them superficially (the pale skin, aversion to sunlight, and blood-drinking) and in advantages (immortality and increased strength and speed), as well as getting unheard-of ones of their own (specific-to-person superpowers). The werewolves of twilight have next to none of the weaknesses of the original and only resemble them superficially (a human that can turn into a wolf) and in advantages (increased strength and... well, ability to turn into a wolf). So it's safe to say that, without us being told, we wouldn't be able to recognize another mythological creature because they lack many of the defining characteristics, with only superficial resemblance and the advantages. So a Twilight-zombie would likely be a creature who is not, as zombies are actually required to be, dead. They would have superficial similarities (vacant expression, lack of emotion, a simple-minded devotion to a cause), without having any of the disadvantages associated with zombie-dom (being, y'know, dead and rotting, and eating of brains). Additionally, they would have the inherent advantages of zombie-dom. An actual advantage of zombificaton is difficult to discern, but I assume the fact that the brain is dead leaves their minds impossible to read. ...Which happens to be the reason Bella is so 'special', the fact that both Edward Cullen and an even stronger mind-reading vampire cannot read their mind. Bella is in fact a Twilight-zombie, with a simple-minded devotion to a single thing (Edward) and a mind too vacant to be read.
- Bella did compared herself to a zombie on the books as well. But can a former zombie become a vampire or is she a vampire zombie?
- What, like in I Am Legend? Wouldn't look much like Bella, though...
- Bella did compared herself to a zombie on the books as well. But can a former zombie become a vampire or is she a vampire zombie?
...A succubus with amnesia
- She is unconsciously feeding off the emotions and strength of the men around her. The reason she gravitates toward the stronger men is they provide more food.
- That is actually the most awesome idea ever and I would totally read a book with that as the central plot.
- Damn it, this troper was hoping she was the first one to think of that. >_< Well, I'm still planning to write a fic based on this, where Bella is a succubus and doesn't know it, but only the life force of supernatural humans is enough to sustain her at all...so she literally does get addicted to Edward's presence and goes into literal withdrawal when he leaves, and then latches onto Jacob as the most compatible superhuman male, even if neither of them know that's why he makes her feel so much better. Also her psychic feeding triggers a kind of mutual addiction, which is why Edward and Jacob get so obsessed with her in return—and the only way to end any of this is for Bella to either die or become a vampire, which is why Jacob's addiction to her ends when she's a vampire. Renesmee...inherited some of her mother's succubus traits? Something. I haven't figured that part out yet.
- Or she doesn't have amnesia, and Twilight is her attempt to become a Villain with Good Publicity. She's just horrible at it.
- Or this is all part of her plan to create the ultimate mythical being by implementing the genetic strengths of everything else, one by one. She spends most of her time trying to get Edward to sleep with her. She keeps Jacob around because he has already shown himself to be easily swayed by her powers. (It takes him mere seconds to "imprint" on her daughter) Most likely she is already the continued offspring of this succubi plot since she has shown herself to be immune to vampire powers, and the plot is passed onto the next generation. So the continued genetic product will now have vampire power, and soon the abillity to transform into a beast form. I'm thinking that the future "Bella", if that's her real name, will be assimilating elves and draconians next. Or she could go after slenderman if she has aquired enough power. This would tie into thinking that Bella is the Big Bad of the series.
- Alternately, she is a White Court vampire. White Court vampires are no longer actively vampires if they fall in love and consumate that love before otherwise feeding for the first time. Bella's mother was born a White Court vampire, but fell in love with her father, and was able to not become a full-fledged White Court vampire, however that first romantic liaison between them was when Bella was conceived. As we can see from Thomas Raith, only one of your parents needs to be a White Court vampire for you to be born a White Court vampire.
- This is why Bella is immune to the powers of other vampires. She also exudes the pheromones that make White Court vampires irresistible, and so isn't as sexy as she thinks she is: people just react to the pheromones that way.
...Dead from page 30 onwards.She mentions that her dad assumed she was not depressed enough to turn his gun on herself when mentioning the gunbelt he hangs up. I choose to believe that she was and all the crap about vampires was just her imagining what might have been in the moment before she pulls the trigger.
...really got hit by Tyler's van in the school parking lotand is dying in a hospital - everything that happened afterward in the series is dreamed by Bella in a comatose state'''
...the granddaughter of a half-vampire.Bella curiously has a lot of vampire qualities for a human: She doesn't really like people or company, is not interested on human boys, really pale in spite of living on a sunny place before Forks, her power of shielding her thoughts, her secretive and introspective nature, her special scent. Since it looks like Charlie is the one that she this qualities even his clumsiness. And Charlie is from Forks then his mother may have had some vampire blood in her, enough to pass it on to her father and then on her. In a moment Bella notices how his father had certain charm that makes her understand why her mother would marry him after high school so fast that would be the dazzling at work on Renee. And since Bella did exactly the same with Edward one could guess that SM gave us a hint. Also Charlie was waaaay to eager not to ask details about his daughter new hotness and the girl that looked a lot like her and husband but was too old to be there. Maybe he does knows some family stories and decided to leave it like that because he knows about the Vulturi's rules.
- If that were true, Twilight would suck maybe 38% less than it does now.
...a Psychopathic Manchild.She's so childish she's willing to leave her real-world friends, family, education, and obligations to go live in a world of magical sparkly vampires and super-special-awesome powers. She likes all the big toys the vampires give her. And although she doesn't do anything openly evil, she's probably a psychopath in the clinical sense, since she has no sense of empathy for anyone and manipulates all the people around her all the time.
...suffering from a case of Histrionic Personality Disorder.Go to look it up. Bella displays MANY of the symptoms, and they're quite prominent in the story. She's very obsessed with appearance; she thinks lowly of people who aren't beautiful, and won't shut up about how gorgeous Edward is. She doesn't like it when she isn't the center of attention, which is why every single aspect of the story is focused on her, and also explains why she leads another guy on when one leaves her, and has them fight over her when she knows who she'll choose. Those with histrionic personality disorder also tend to believe that relationships are more intimate than they really are, which would explain why she fell in "love" with Edward so quickly. She can be overly emotional and sensitive as well and makes a few rash decisions.
...suffering from a (mild?) case of Body Dismorphic Disorder.There is a reason Bella is so determined to think that she's unattractive despite so many boys falling for her. She has undiagnosed (mild?) Body Dysmorphic Disorder! She literally can't see her own beauty and can't fathom why anyone (let alone hot man hunk Edward) would like her. She doesn't display a huge amount of the symptoms, but she definitely has the thought processes that go with it. Her angst about being ugly goes away when she becomes a vampire because vampires are inherently stunning.
...actually brain-damaged.We never see her in Phoenix, and she's incredibly uncoordinated and irrational. She got into some sort of accident in Phoenix, and it damaged her brain to the point where she got everything backwards or exaggerate. For a while, Renee was taking care of her, and Bella recovered to the point where she was able to cook and clean well enough to do favors for her if Renee was busy. Bella thought of this as taking care of Renee. However, Renee and Phil were not able to adequately care for Bella and it was putting a severe strain on their relationship, and felt that Charlie would do a better job. Bella likes the idea of seeing her father, and thinks of it was her being a good daughter letting her mother and new stepfather have time together. When she meets the Cullens in Forks, they proceed to take advantage of her, planning to eat her at one point, but Edward wimps out and falls into some sick, twisted form of love with Bella, which Bella thinks is totally sweet and not creepy at all. As for Renesmee- the pregnancy actually takes the usual nine months, but Bella still has terrible stretch marks, and the Cullens get some sick sort of satisfaction in making Bella drink actual human blood. Jacob is actually a pedophile who is jealous of Quil and Claire's "relationship".
Also, James and his coven were trying to rescue Bella and destroy the Cullens for taking advantage of her. He was also trying to save Alice, but Alice escaped, was transformed into a vampire, and joined the Cullens. Alice and Bella, however, are told that James is evil and out to eat them.
...addicted to vampire pheromones.This is why she's so obsessed with Edward's scent. Anytime she feels lightheaded due to Edward's presence is simply because of a sudden influx of pheromones. He said it himself: everything about him is designed to draw her in, even his breath. The breath thing makes perfect sense, evolutionarily speaking. It's the perfect way to deliver airborne chemicals when you're up close and personal, and vampires don't need to breathe, so what else would they do with their lungs? They probably get converted into pheromone factories when they change - all that inner surface area has to be good for something.
Now, back to the subject of Bella: when she's catatonic in New Moon, it's not just because of the breakup. Her reaction is way too over the top for that. She wakes up screaming in the middle of the night, has violent temper tantrums (i.e. mood swings), and claws out the stereo from her truck with her bare, bleeding hands. She's going through withdrawal. The stress and emotional pain she's going through is just weakening her body, rendering it more susceptible to illness and sending her into a downward spiral. After four months, the symptoms are finally abating, and she starts hanging out with Jacob, which lifts her spirits enough to speed her up on her way to a full physical recovery.
Buuut...then Alice arrives, sending her into a relapse. Notice how the first thing Bella does with Alice is to try to inhale as much of her scent as possible. From there on, any progress that Bella has made is quickly undone. By the time she's with Edward on the plane home, she's content just to sit with him face-to-face, breathing in his pheromone-laden breath for the several hours it takes to get back. It's worth noting that in Eclipse, she specifically names this moment as the best of her life. You could say it was from the relief of having Edward back, but let's face it: she had plenty of other reasons.
...The Big BadThe minute Bella decides she wants to be a vampire, it becomes pretty much inevtable that she will become one. So, as soon as she decides, Alice sees that if she does become a vampire, she loses control, and goes on a gigantic rampage. She clues humans in on the existence of vampires, but other vampires can't kill her. The world is plunged into war between supernatural beings human (who want to kill the vampires for their own safety), and life as we know it ends.
The Cullens can't just kill her, though, because that would piss off Jacob and, as soon as he found out about them (right at the beginning of his transformation, when he wouldn't be able to control his temper) he would order his pack into war against the Cullens, once again sparking the humans to find out, and war. Same goes if they just avoid her entirely, because she attracts supernatural phenomena like a turd attracts flies (appropriately enough), who would kill her, werewolves go ballistic and blame the nearest vampires (the Cullens) and so on.
Edward doesn't actually love her, if this is the case. He's just using her love of him as a chance to train her and keep her in check when she changes. After all, they put a hell of a lot of effort into keeping her out of trouble, weening her off of blood a bit at a time instead of just going somewhere away from people and cold-turkeying the shit out of her. As for why Edward has sex with her in this situation? He's a perpetually-teenaged boy who hasn't had any contact with a woman in almost a hundred years - like hell he isn't horny. It also explains why he's so over-protective of her. if she gets out the Cullens' influence, the end of days happens. Edward breaking up with her is not out of trying to protect her, he just got fed up with her ass.
As an added bonus, it may even retroactively explain Bella's attitude: Having no personality to speak of, Bella wouldn't have anything keeping her even vaguely human. all of the other vampires hold themselves back based on compassion, or vampire law, But if Bella tasted blood there's a good chance she would go feral: Like a newborn, but with the strength of a full vampire and the ability to reason. Additionally, the fact that no mental powers affect her and how attractive she is to everyone around her could be a single vamp power: She may have a sort of pacifying aura, meaning that no one could really fight her.
...the Third Wife's descendant.This theory was inspired by a complaint on the Just Bugs Me page which mused that the Third Wife might have had the same tasty blood that Bella did. Now, we've seen that Bella gets her special blood from Charlie, so it's apparently a genetic thing. Assuming that Charlie's family has lived near the reservation for a while, it's not impossible that one of his ancestors had a kid with a Quileute descendant of the Third Wife. This would also fit in with how parallels were drawn between Bella and the Third Wife.
...the true writer of the series, with Edward over her shoulder.Bella is dying [without Edward realizing it (I'll get to it)], and decides to write her memoirs before she kicks the bucket. She is currently presiding at the Cullen's place with Edward, her emotionally abusive vampire boyfriend-turned-husband. Though she tries to write at the best of her abilities, she is still at a high school writing level, which explains the crappy writing. (As noted in the Troper Tales page for it, Purple Prose is greatly encouraged in high school) However, Edward, being the self-designated protector of Bella, keeps a constant watch on her every move, and takes great displeasure in seeing his beloved write such things as "stalker", "abusive", and "God I'm so afraid of him." So, naturally, he threatens her into writing him as a "caring" and "beautiful" boyfriend, which changes much of the way the story is told from here on out.
As Bella begins writing New Moon, she becomes gradually entranced by her memory of Jacob. She starts to write him more and more as a romantic interest; at first, subtle enough to elude Edward's notice, but eventually he catches on. Bella, in compliance, slowly adds imaginary faults to Jacob to slowly drive the two apart. Bella begins feeling worse and worse, and by the time Breaking Dawn Is nearly finished it is revealed that she is dying due to complications in the birthing process. Before she dies, though, she tells Edward how she really feels about him, which cuts at him deeply, and he decides to leave for her sake. Bella finally dies before finishing the final chapters, leaving her memoir incomplete.
Eventually, Edward returns to find that Bella is dead. This puts him in great psychological and emotional turmoil, and it takes him years to cope with it. As a sort of penance, Edward decides to finish the memoir himself. He makes it a happy ending, with Bella turned into a vampire and the two of them marrying. Edward leaves the memoirs outside Bella's house to put her family's minds at ease, and then leaves to walk the earth, searching desperately for closure.
Now, as fate would have it, Bella's neighbor Stephenie Meyer found the memoirs and realized she could make some money off of them. Some things added here and there (Bella and Edward's love for Muse, the vampire's "sparkle", and the names of some characters), and she went off to the publisher's office. Two year's later, and she's made a small fortune off of the writings of a dying girl and her broken lover.
...was bullied at school in Phoenix.Basically, the oft pondered issue of Bella's low self esteem (which stays low in spite of all the attention she receives for her looks) can be explained away by bullying that took place when she 12-14. She was an ugly duckling who didn't start growing into her looks until she was 14/15, and due to years of being called ugly and being isolated by her classmates, she became convinced that she was very plain (developing Body Dismorphic Disorder as mentioned above), and got used to not having friends and being aloof. That's why she fails to develop attachments to her peers at Forks High. I struggle to explain her attachment to the Cullen's though. Probably because their vampirism holds the promise of eternal beauty (a cure for her body image) and unusually strong attachments (namely that mating thing, that seems to seal people together forever.) Lastly, she doesn't mention the dark period in her life because at that age, when it's over, most people try to forget. I have friends (plus me) who went through bad stuff in high school, but they would never volunteer the information, and constantly downplay it. I'm not saying they're wrong to (I do it as well), but it makes it easier to understand why Bella never mentioned it beyond "I was unpopular".
- This seems plausible. It must have halted her social and emotional maturation processes, which is why she talks, behaves and thinks like a child.
... A Ghoul.Bella was already enslaved so that Edward could feed on her delicious teenage blood. The novel series is simply her rationalizing her ditching humans and her unquestioning devotion to Edward As Edward feeds on her more and more she becomes more blindly loyal. And book 2 has blank pages where Edward leaves because what does a ghoul do with the vampire that made it?
... A massive thanatophobe.Bella is completely terrified of death. The reason she acts so callous to her friends and family is because she is that afraid of the prospect of dying-even if she becomes a crime against nature.
...A vampire otherkin.She isn't actually in love with Edward, just with what he represents. When presented with the opportunity to change herself to match how she feels internally, she can't resist.
...Brain damagedThat drowning episode in New Moon left her partially brain dead. She still has basic functions (she was already struggling with breathing right even before Edward left, so we can't blame the drowning for that part) but her reasoning and thinking skills, to the degree she had any, have all but left her. This explains why the rest of the series make no sense and much of it is hallucinated.
...suffering from a human form of Cerebellar HypoplasiaFor those who don't know, cerebellar hypoplasia is a condition that occurs in cats whose mother was sick with a virus, probably distemper, while pregnant. It's sheer dumb luck which kittens get hit with it and the ones who do wind up with a fucked up cerebellum, resulting in them being clumsy and unable to coordinate as well as an ordinary cat. Otherwise, they're fine. Renee got sick with something while pregnant with Bella, resulting in her getting something like cerebellar hypoplasia, which is why she's always falling over her own two feet: she can't coordinate properly because her brain is deformed. I can only assume that becoming a sparklepire somehow fixed her cerebellum, thus resulting in her having normal coordination.
Or, see Pink Court theory above.
Obviously, Edward slept with a man, somehow transported his partner's sperm from his ass to his testes, changed that into vampire sperm, and then impregnated Bella with it.
- Indeed.
- So what can Renesmee change into, and what body part do they need?
- Worst part would be if the sperm donor was Jacob. Unless you are a Yaoi Fangirl, of course, and forget about the friggin' imprinting...
- Indeed.
- Sorry, this page is only for Wild Mass Guessing, not for stuff everyone already knows.
- This is exactly how I've gotten through the past three movies and (after Eclipse catalyzed my long-building interest in all the side characters I've heard so much about) plan to read the books.
She starts building it during her months of catatonia, but we don't see any of it until she first sees Edward's ghost, and by then her fantasy world is already at danger levels. Jacob tries to help her by getting her out of the house and giving her someone to talk to, but she only incorporates him into the delusion. Jacob's personality shift after he supposedly fursplodes for the first time is actually because he finally realised how far gone she was, tried to get her professional help, and eventually exploded at her in anger and frustration for losing her mind over Edward. Bella interprets her falling-out with him in her delusion as lycanthropy. (Heck, she's seen that vampires are real, so why not werewolves too?) As her loneliness grows and it becomes clear that Edward really isn't coming back, her fantasy brings him back to her - and not only that, but has him propose to her. Yet she still misses Jacob, so she brings him back in a love triangle situation, but her mind has warped Jacob's personality beyond recognition. Her delusion finally culminates in the disturbing events of Breaking Dawn - when, in reality, Bella has been in a mental hospital for 2 years.
Of course, there's also the problem of Jacob. See, Bella's subconscious knew that she'd go to Jake if she was thinking straight, so it twisted Jacob around. It's only the Jacob in her mind that suffered mass Character Derailment. In reality he's still a sweet guy trying to deal with his girl wanting to be a vampire.
And the second half of Breaking Dawn? The pregnancy did kill her, and this is her heaven.
Its the same with the Cullens. While they do like Bella, its not to the point where they seem to almost worship her. They also realized that she had low self-esteem issues, and go at lengths to tell her how beautiful and perfect she is. However, this only caused Bella to become more self hating, being told by people who really are beautiful that she was. At the same time, it also made her cling to Edward, who she sees as one of the only few people in the world who thinks she is beautiful.
- Bella has More than Mind Control over vampires, and since she's too good a weapon humans are affected as well.
- Bella smells so good to vampires because they're aware on a deep subconscious level that she's designed to kill them; the Volturi have decided she's too much of a threat to live, and the Cullens think they can reprogram her as an ally
- The Designated Hero tendencies come from Bella being a subconscious weapon.
- Bella wasn't normal before a vampire.
- Renesmee is the result of Bella Swan being a Humanoid Abomination outside of the laws of nature. Now that she's a vampire Paradox Person, she can break nature to have a child.
- The series will end with Bella becoming aware of her powers, and use it to Take Over the World, creating The First Church of Bella Swan. The vampires will become her servants, forcing humans and supernatural monsters to work together.
What I think is that Bella wasn't just an exaggerated example of Hormone-Addled Teenager who desires eternal youth, god-like beauty, immortality, wealth, power, and sex. Given her personality and that comment alone, was Bella a hormone-addled toddler? Did she want all this and whine about everything long before she was even in preschool? Was the reason why nobody in Phoenix befriended her because they thought that she was "too weird" and bullied her (similar to how Mertle bullies Lilo), or because she wanted all this as young as 2, causing her to cruelly reject everyone no matter how nice they were, and probably bully them?
So, in conclusion, we can assume that Bella was a Creepy Child who whined about everything, ignored all of her peers for being normal and "imperfect" children, and was pretty much the same person she grew up to become.
...Feeding on Bella throughout the book.This is why she faints constantly, feels dizzy, and is occasionally too weak to stand.
- This is both actually plausible and would instantly give Edward back his 'real vampire' rep (all that sparkly stuff was obviously just an act).
...Really stoned.He feels little pain, he's really paranoid, he loves music, his senses are, well, hypersensitive and he's rarely, if ever bored. He may or may not be lying about the "vampire" thing so he doesn't have to admit to Bella that he's a 24/7 drug addict.
- Interestingly enough in American Ultra "Bella's" friend is a gigantic stoner who also practically has super powers.
...Really stoned.Vampirism doesn't turn people into diamond, it merely turns them into vampires. However, the Volturi and/or one of Carlisle's sire-ancestors realized that stoning prevents sunlight damage and vampires can still move when stoned.
...Michael Jackson.Pale and wears make-up? Check.Goes for people much, much younger than himself? Check.Women swooning? Check back in the 80's.Sparkles? Check Micheal's wardrobe for much of the 80's, and tell me he doesn't.
- Impossible, Bella is too old to be his girlfriend.
- Well, when you account for May Fly December Romance (to paraphrase Doc Scratch "To me all ladies are 'young ladies'").
...Lying when he said he believed that vampires lost their souls.In New Moon, we learn that Edward doesn't want to turn Bella because he's afraid she'll lose her soul. Oddly, he never mentioned this in Twilight when it would have been advantageous for him to do so. He also stated that he didn't lose anything when he was turned. Surely something as important as a soul wouldn't slip Edward's mind! A reasonable explanation is that Edward started claiming he didn't believe vampires had souls sometime between Twilight and New Moon in order to scare Bella out of having herself turned.
...really a traditional vampire.Those good looks? It's all vampire seduction magic! How he sparkles? He applied body glitter all over his body to block out the sun and keep him from bursting into flames! His whiny attitude? Who Wants to Live Forever?? It all makes sense!
- So all the vampires in the world are coincidentally doing this, even when Bella's not around? And what about the super-powers.
...a eunuch.He's been a teenager for 108 years, and became a bookworm while all the other teen vamps were fucking like mad rabbits. Go figure. His treatment of Bella is because he lacks any understanding of how a relationship is supposed to work (probably from romance novels). And of course he refuses to have sex until married, and THEN he has to knock out Bella... for all we know he had his friends run a train on her while she was out cold. And of course, after he bites her, she's too under his spell to notice.
... RED teenager from benevento.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy_witch_trials_of_Sicilydon't find similarity interesting?
... asexual.Take into account the above, but also that he doesn't want to have sex with Bella. He says it's because he's afraid to hurt her with his super-strength, but it's because as a human he had no sex drive, and now as a vampire the only thing he feels during sex is the visceral response to having a living, breathing sack of blood so close by, and so yielding. While he may be fond of Bella, he certainly doesn't act like he wants to jump her bones or anything.
- This troper would like to mention a thought that crossed her mind whilst writing her own vampire novel (which is not vampire romance and shall hopefully one day be better recieved by troper-type people than Twilight is. *nervous glances*): Vampires don't get horny because they don't have to have sex to procreate. Sex is, on a purely biological level, for making more things like oneself. Vampires don't have to do that, they just bite and then wait a few hours (or days, depends) and there's another member of the species. Therefore, there'd been no purpose for a vamp-ified body to continue to make the hormones that makes you horny.
- I like your idea, but word of advice, try to get it published fast or be prepared to shelve it for the next 20 years. I think the Vampire romance subgenre reached its saturation/lowest/highest level with Twilight (we also had Buffy, True Blood, Vampire Diaries...), it won't get more romantic/corny/trashy than Edward: The sparkly vampire thus after the TL fever stops people won't want to read vampires are sexy for a long, long time. In fact I predict the genre will go back at vampires are dangerous monsters and you should stay the hell away from them in a few years, YMMV.
- ...she said it's NOT a sexy-vampire type story...
- This troper would like to mention a thought that crossed her mind whilst writing her own vampire novel (which is not vampire romance and shall hopefully one day be better recieved by troper-type people than Twilight is. *nervous glances*): Vampires don't get horny because they don't have to have sex to procreate. Sex is, on a purely biological level, for making more things like oneself. Vampires don't have to do that, they just bite and then wait a few hours (or days, depends) and there's another member of the species. Therefore, there'd been no purpose for a vamp-ified body to continue to make the hormones that makes you horny.
...a very self-conscious individual.There's an "Edward has a small penis theory" floating around TS. Since he is often compared to art pieces where the men have this problem; he admits he can't please Bella and over compensates with expensive gifts and the way he behaves about sex among other things. I found it hilarious, but that's just me.
- Well...the artwork comparisons are because that was the standard of beauty in the time of the Romans/Greeks. But I can't disagree with anything else.
- Bella even compares him to Michelangelo's David in one of the books. But the thing is, David is about to battle a giant in the context of that sculpture. He's afraid and certain... things... are retracting. What with the fear and all. But what with Edward's diamond-hard everything, it can't be that. So... yeah.
- Someone just needs to tell Edward that it ain't the size of the boat... it's the motion of the ocean.
- It's a helluva time to try and get to England in a rowboat, though.
...a man-whore and really CAN read Bella's mind.Edward, in actuality, is a man-whore. He picks the girl he wants, and manipulates her to fall for him. He always does this soon before he leaves to a new place, for reasons I am about to explain. When he decides he wants Bella, he reveals his vampire identity to her, as he does with all the girls he seduces. He tells her about his mind reading powers but tells Bella that he can't read hers. This is a lie, of course, but since he can read her mind, he knows that she likes to feel special. He initially just intended to seduce her, have fun for a while, and then kill her off before he assumes a new identity and moves to another town. But then Jacob entered the picture, and things got complicated. Jacob was jealous that Edward had a girl, and he wanted Bella for himself. Jacob comforted her after Edward left, but Edward found out about their relationship and came back just to spite Jacob. The thing is, Jacob and Edward have had a long, violent, serious rivalry and will do ANYTHING to one-up the other, even if it means getting married, like Edward eventually did
Joseph Smith.See here.
Suffering from a certain level of Values Dissonance. He was already an old man by the sexual revolution of the 1960s. Edward Cullen's opinions on sexuality hasn't changed since the 1910s, hence why he seems so stuffy and sexually awkward-it was considered taboo to have sex before marriage/masturbate back then. Granted I don't think his sexism fits with the 1910s, but that's another issue.
- It seems vampires' mentality "freezes" when they're turned so if Edward had a typical 1910s attitude it's unlikely to have changed — no matter how many high school health classes he's sat through learning about human reproduction will freak him out like it's the first time.
- Any time Edward supposedly reads minds, he only hears thoughts that are impossible to verify or are easy to guess. It's easy, for instance, to figure out that James wanted to hunt Bella or that the gang was thinking about doing "disgusting things" to Bella.
Edward is a Meth Addict, and Bella is delusional.Think about it. How is Edward portrayed? He has pale, "sparkling" skin and extreme mood shifts; he is frighteningly possessive; and he is shown to take things completely out of proportion. All of this can be explained if he is on drugs; even the "sparkling" is explained as Bella's deluded rationalization of his sweating during a drug binge. Bella is too needy, insane, or strung out on dope herself to care.
- This works extra-well for film continuity— Edward doesn't sparkle there. He looks sweaty. Really, really sweaty. None of the other family members are vampires either— they are either one of Edward's paranoid delusions ('They're cannibals! They're going to eat you, Bella!') or Bella's way of rationalizing their oddness. They're just anemic.
- To the person who wants to use this WMG (and any others): You're welcome to it!
- Bella's actress has been photographed smoking a non-tobacco pipe of some sort.
Edward is on the autistic scale and Bella is too.]Bella's clumsy - a classic Aspie trait. The reason Bella does not bond well with "normal" people is because to her, they're confusing and capricious. (Aspies often have a difficult time grasping the nuances of etiquette and social structure and whatnot, which often seem like a lot of pointless and arbitrary nonsense.) The reason some people perceive her as "mature" when she really isn't is because they mistake her inability to show emotion as emotional strength. Edward and Bella show unhealthy obsession with each other, and obsessive behavioral patterns are associated with autism and Asperger's.
- Being an a-hole is not the same thing as having a social disorder
A large part of the reason they bonded was because being on the autistic scale, neither of them were prone to the behaviors that they found so confusing and off-putting in neurotypical people. To Bella, a vampire who might literally rip her to shreds is less terrifying than a pack of humans who might metaphorically rip her to shreds when she fails to follow their confusing and arbitrary social rules, because at the very least he'll try not to destroy her - something she cannot count on from her human peers.
Edward is Nonexistant, and Bella is imagaining the entire thing.
- It explains away why she continually shuns the people who have actual emotions and feelings for her for the the aloof stalker. As the books go on, Bella slowly slips further and further into insanity. Eventually becoming bed ridden and unable to escape from the fantasy in her head. Jacob (and his family), in her head, are warewolves fighting the vampires. In reality, desperately trying to break her out of her vampire-based psychosies.
Finally, she becomes totally lost in the fantasy, while her former best friend latches on to the last vestiges of her once-sane mind, "imprinting", if you will, on the part of Bella that finally escaped from her now-delusionally-vampiric body.
- Bella starts out unfulfulled, feeling like the special one in a town of mundane hicks, smarter than all of them but not pretty. Edward shows up with his glamorous family of pseudo-incestuous adopted children, and she begins to notice the tells of the disturbing fantasy life he's living. (Carlisle is forced to tolerate and play along with his strange delusions, possibly because he is sexually abusive.) He leads her in by feeding her what she's supposed to "see"— his already pallid skin as paler than it is, his sheen of sweat after a manic episode as glitter like diamonds. Her visual hallucinations increase sharply after spending time with him, as he tells her what she's meant to see or her mind filling in the gaps regarding her beautiful, fantastic boyfriend. She is willing to help him play his games in exchange for his romantic and sexual attentions. She, the egotistical and aloof manipulator, plays at dominating his attentions at the same time as she is dominated. (Just wait for him to start leading her into petty crime...)
- They're a heterosexual, actually romantic (as opposed to intensely close) version of Pauline and Juliet!
...Had imprinted on Renesmee while she was an egg.That's why he felt pulled toward Bella until right after Renesmee was born. And that's why he couldn't imprint on anyone else - he already had imprinted. It's the only logical conclusion.
- Wasn't that exactly what the book implied?
- Jacob fell for Bella before he became a werewolf. There was another member of his pack who imprinted on a classmate he saw everyday, but he didn't have any feelings for her until after he became a werewolf.
- Jacob was used to being in love with Bella; when he did change, he didn't notice his imprinting to her unconceived child. Perhaps, since it was only half of what would be Renesmee, the change and effects of his imprinting weren't as strong as, say, Sam's.
- It makes no sense. The purpose of imprinting is to secure the best possible mate for the perpetuation of the species. Therefore, a male shapeshifter will always imprint on a female. The egg has no gender until the sperm gets to it, so he couldn't have imprinted on it since it was basically genderless and could have very well ended up becoming a baby boy.
- Does it make any more sense that Jacob imprinted a half-vampire? I find it very unlikely that a half-vampire and a werewolf would be very compatible, especially if it was to continue the werewolf species.
- The Official Illustrated Guide clarifies that imprinting existing for the continuation of the species and choosing the best suitable genetic mate is merely a theory the wolves have that is called into question when Jacob imprints. There is no canon reason for imprinting, only speculation.
- Aren't all eggs genetically more female, anyway?
- All eggs do have an X chromosome, so, in a sense, yes. But that is exactly why an egg can't determine the baby's gender. It depends wholely on whether a sperm has an Y or X chromosome in it.
- Does it make any more sense that Jacob imprinted a half-vampire? I find it very unlikely that a half-vampire and a werewolf would be very compatible, especially if it was to continue the werewolf species.
- Or better yet, she really DID get hit by a car in the first book, and it's all a coma/drug-dream.
...Really just like Romeo and Juliet.Bear with me here. There is no Rosaline, but Edward has been hung up on his lost mortality ever since he was turned. He gets all mopey to the other vampires, they tell him to find a girl, maybe have a one-decade stand, he does but convinces himself he's in love when he really just wants to experience life through her. She's a hopeless romantic, and goes along with it. The Paris, the werewolf Jacob whoever, wants to take her back and very nearly has it sanctioned by the "Families" involved, but she runs off and sleeps with the Romeo. It's been updated, so she gets knocked up instead of married. The cool thing is (or the Squick thing, YMMV), this time Paris doesn't have to die, he just lets Juliet-Bella's daughter take her place. The only problem remaining is that she's now a vampire: that spark of life that Edward was so into is now gone, and he's going to go and get himself killed doing something stupid in the name of love. She'll follow suit, and the Cullens will be all weepy. And maybe the werewolves, if Jacob dies in the process of Edward "doing something stupid." This all goes to show that making comparisons to Romeo and Juliet is not necessarily a bad thing.
- I've heard that Romeo & Juliet was supposed to be a black comedy (these two idiot kids don't know the difference between love and infatuation, and their parents' actions cause them to kill themselves over it) so that makes this interpretation that much better.
...written by Edward.He wrote the books years back as a sort of Wish-Fulfillment thing, then handed them to some random girl and said "Publish these in like twenty years or something, 'kay?" Stephenie Meyer being a teenage girl at the time, she couldn't resist modifying the story just a little bit so that the protagonist would be remarkably like her. In short, this entire crappy series is the work of two authors who would be merely mediocre if they had worked together properly, which they didn't. At all.
...just a story Bella made up.Basically, it's all written by the in-universe Bella. In actuality, Bella is a homely, overweight girl. Her mother ignores her and her father is an abusive drunk. When she moved to Forks, she was mocked and ostracized by the kids at school. She wrote Twilight as an escapist fantasy, in which she is at least a bit attractive, loved by everyone, and catches the attention of not one but two hunky, gorgeous guys with supernatural abilities. The Bella in the story is a bitch because the Bella writing the series wishes that she could behave like that and get away with it simply because everyone believes she is so perfect. (honestly, how many of you guys wish you could act like a jerk, do whatever you want, and get away with it?)
- So you're saying that Bella is actually... Stephenie Meyer? Sounds about right to me.
...Bella writing a book trying to justify her choice she made in high school.The entire book series never actually happened the way she is writing. She is putting people she knows into different monster archetypes as symbolism for how she views each person in her life. As in:
- Edward: A vampire, but not quite. They met in high school on the same premise as the books, sans vampirism. She was the quiet nerdy girl, and he was the hansom misunderstood pretty boy. They really did fall in love and marry early, but Bella is using the vampirism to describe their relationship. She always felt that he was too good for her, and that made him also dangerous. However, she didn't see him as truly dangerous, which is why she made him have such good control over his thirst for her blood, and why he sparkles as opposed to bursting into flames. He doesn't have blatant fangs because that would make him too scary. Bella, in real life, felt that Edward was always intimidating and so high above her that there was always the possibility of him leaving, and at one point her fears came to life when he did leave for a period of time. But, he came back, and she keeps telling herself that he loves her no matter what the obstacles, whether its social status in real life, or vampire status in her books.
- Jacob: A "werewolf", and a brother. He and Bella met at a young age, and unlike Bella told in the story, kept in touch throughout their lives. Jacob was always there, and would always be there for her. But, he was too plain and safe for her. That is, until he hit puberty. Bella used his sudden transformation into a werewolf as a metaphor for the less sudden, but still quick transformation he underwent into manhood. Suddenly, Jacob was no longer the safe, younger brother Bella pictured him as, but a wild and rugged young man. He's edgy and daring, but loyal as can be and would die for Bella in a heartbeat. Bella knows that he's the safer option, but there is still a risk factor, which translates into his wolf form. She writes him as the wrong choice through the fact that she tells herself that he's still her younger brother at heart, but there is still that shadow of doubt.
- The Cullens and Werewolves: Each side to her choice comes with their own sets of boundaries and loyalties. If she chose Edward, she got his loving family and social status to go with it. If she chose the wolves, she got endless protection, a loving family, but sacrificed status.
In short, Bella wrote Twilight to justify her actions to herself, trying to make herself feel better about choosing Edward.
...based on true events experienced by the author.Stephenie was once in a series of situations similar to the ones Bella faced, and decided one day to write a book about them. She then decided to "spice things up" by including vampires and werewolves. Edward, Jacob and the like are pseudonyms.
- So that's why she made the main character look so much like herself! The main character WAS herself! Genius!
...Written by the WinnersBella and Edward are actually the villains of the story, willing to take out anyone who stands between them and their perfect piece of forever. Aro is only trying to maintain a compromise between humans and vampires to prevent them from destroying each other. By the end of Breaking Dawn, the Cullens are effectively a terrorist group, openly threatening the equivalent of a government official to get their way.
The vampires are frozen in time, that is a direct reference to cryogenics. They live forever and love forever, they are stronger, faster, prettier, no need of sleep or eating, can dedicate all the time in the world to anything they want to achieve...All that maybe would be achieved on the future with nanotechnology, if you freeze first and get "woke up" on the future. And Bella choose to be a "cold one" over staying human weak, get old and die and won money, love, strength and beauty. Smeyer must own several shares of those cryonics labs.
- Oh this will only call for fanfictions of Leah entering on mating season with sexy results.Rule 34.
- I always thought that phasing freezes the wolves in time, meaning that once she stops, her periods will resume as normal.
- I have a lot to say about this. First, it's established that once they change, they can eventually control themselves to become 'human' again, but this seems contradictory. Are they humans who have a magical affliction (for lack of a better word), or are they now permanently wolves that just stay in human form? If it's the latter, then does the human form affect the wolf, or is it reversed? I'd like to think that while they are now wolves, their humanity does effect them. Remember Jacob running as a wolf and rather desperate to not think or feel as a human? Do we know if he was successful or not? It seems a no, since he came back unable to stop feeling/thinking, which means that the human form has an influence. Back to Leah, does this mean that severe stress can have an affect on her cycle? A woman's period is already a rather delicate thing effected by multiple factors such as stress (which means no periods), extreme mood swings (meaning sorrow for, say, your father's death that you feel you [in]directly caused, or rage that your fiancé left you for someone you thought of as a sister), the amount of food you eat (studies show that now that women have more access to an abundant amount of food that periods are a monthly thing, rather than when we first started agriculture where a failed crop meant less food on the whole, and thus fewer or no periods), your immediate environment in more sensitive women, etc. And, since a wolf's estrus occurs in winter... What do we know has occurred in the winter of all the books? In New Moon, winter or not, Leah had just turned, she's not going to have a baby any time soon. In Eclipse, it was the newborn army that Victoria concocted attacking pretty fucking close to civilization, geographically speaking, and Leah knew it was coming. We know how protective of her brother and possibly her mother she is. In Breaking Dawn, it was the Volturi and the gaggle of vampires that appeared. As their mortal enemy (both figuratively and literally speaking), would you want to have children around them, friendly or otherwise? No, you would not.
Normal humans who had voluntarily transformed themselves into monsters to fight and kill vampires. As many of us have puzzled out ourselves, if vampires truly existed they'd have captured and bred us to harvest our blood. Twilight-pires in particular have no reason to hid their existence since they have no weaknesses that a human could realistically exploit. So, a long time ago, a group of disgruntled humans developed a method to transform themselves into werewolves in order to fight vampires head on. It has been stated that all the werewolves are extinct, but the Volturi were lying and are really trying to make themselves as inconspicuous as possible to avoid being wiped out.
- Could this mean they have been cursed?
? Would Leah be more resistant against vampire venom and other poisons based on having more white blood cells than many of her pack members on average?Which is why the others (being everyone, not just her pack members) love to gang up on her and torment her and why she's basically the Meg of the series.
- She saw every major disaster of the last 50 years coming and decided to go shopping instead of trying to warn people or save a few lives. Or...
- She prevented dozens of disasters from happening; we just don't know about them.
- This doesn't hold for ALL disasters. Her power isn't seeing the future so much as it is seeing what will happen when a person makes a definite choice. She can see outcomes, like Hiro's father on Heroes. She's not responsible for the natural disasters. Terrorist attacks and the like, though - that's all her.
- But either we take quantum physics and chaos systems seriously and say it's impossible for her to see anything (since nothing is predetermined), or she can see natural disasters especially well since there are no choices to be made. (Man made a contribution, but the effects come long after we make the choice.)
- It has been noted that she sees weather especially well because it has a fixed outcome. Hmm.
- It has been mentioned a few times that she doesn't see everything, only the future's of those she is close to i.e. just her family and other relatives and friends (The Denalis etc.). If you read Midnight Sun, you'll see she couldn't get a clear reading on Bella until after they met and became friends.
Alice only picked Jasper because her power told her she will do so, thus she was already attached when she meet Edward but aside from that, they are very close and very alike in all the instances but physical. She loves Bella because Edward will love her but she is doing more out of Edward's benefit than Bella's herself. She dolled her up for Edward even though Bella hated pretty much everything, she had stated that she is using Bella to live vicariously through her and she insisted on doing the wedding that would please Edward but also maybe the one she would had chosen if she and Edward would had been a couple. During the honeymoon she packed the kind of sexy lingerie that would please Edward, how the hell would she knew that and why would she care so much about her "brother's" sex life? Because with her powers she can know exactly what will happen and that is the only way she can be with and physically please Edward. Edward might had actually try and fall for her if Jasper would had not being part of her life already, given that she is a brunette and she understand him better than anyone. On Midnight Sun she is the must unhappy about him leaving and she was very happy to find out he was going to ask her out to dinner and on Breaking Dawn even if she left Edward wanted to make sure she was safe it was the only thank he owed her after 50 years.
- This would explain a lot of vampiric actions in the series actually. Maybe newborn vampires aren't used to staying awake perpetually, and so their insanity resulting from it is more violent?
- It could be but I think is more that she was killed right before she was going to get married and have her own family. Twivampires get emotionally stuck in the traumas of their deaths. Esme keeps adopting kids to made up for the one she lost, Emmet keeps picking fights with bears, Edward is the only survivor of an epidemic that killed his family and pretty much half his hometown so he was depressed and with survivor's guilt when we meet him and so on. Its only logical that Rosalie that was also obsessed with weddings was also obsessed with babies. It will also explain why Bella does so well after becoming a vampire. She didn't had any emotional trauma when she died.
- Rosalie's power is a siren's beauty. She is considered to be the most beautiful person in the world, even among vampires, and Emmet was enchanted with her when she rescued him. But her alluring nature transcends her looks. In life she was very charismatic and popular, and enjoyed attention, so it makes sense that her vampiric power would be the ability to suck people in (har, har). Obviously this has some very unfortunate implications about her sexual assault, but it's "Twilight" so what do you expect.
- Emmet's power is fortitude. He's not only the most physically strong of the Cullens, but he had the mental strength to stay alive after being horribly mauled by a bear long enough for Rosalie to carry him to Carlisle, he had the stomach to leave his family with some provisions and never look back, and he is able to adapt to Carlisle's vegetarian vampire life. By extension, Emmet can more strongly resist other vampire's powers, like Edward's mind-probing and Jane's pain-infliction. We just don't see this proven because Emmet barely gets any screentime.
- Esme's power is.... whoa boy, if you thought Rosalie's had Unfortunate Implications, get ready... Esme's power is to adapt to what others want. In life she wanted to be a school teacher but allowed her family to talk her into marrying a man she didn't love, and stay married even when he abused her. Only losing her baby triggered her to attempt suicide—the fact that she failed her child. When Carlisle changed her, she didn't mind at all; it was what he wanted, and so it was what she wanted. The Cullens consider her the greatest maternal figure in their entire lives, despite several of them having good relationships with their real mothers before turning. Esme's emotions and mannerisms can magically shift to accommodate whoever she is interacting with so they can't help but love her. This "power" is obviously both an advantage and a disadvantage. It's a good thing it was Carlisle who changed her, and not say, James.
- Seriously, Renee Higginbotham? Can you imagine how much she got teased for that? She may very well have been desperate to change her name without hurting her parents' feelings, which is why she rushed into a relationship with Charlie and got married at age 19.
- Actually, Edward mentions that Charlie's thoughts are hard to read in Midnight Sun, so Bella did in fact get it from him.
- Renee isn't supernatural, she's just a Moe Blob. Bella wasn't supernatural, she just didn't have enough (quality) thoughts to read.
- This explains Bella's unnatural degree of charm (all the boys at school are attracted to her because of her succubus nature, not because she's beautiful), and why she's immune to Edward's mind-reading powers.
- Also, she is feeding off the Cullens, especially Edward, which explains her extreme depression whenever he's not around: she's not just depressed, but actually starving.
- This is why Renee sent Bella away to live with her father: she didn't want the competition, and/or didn't want Bella to discover her White Court lust powers in an urban population center, and sent her to Forks hoping that the town was far enough from civilization that Bella couldn't do too much harm even if she enslaved a large part of the town with her powers.
This is why he is so awesome.- Given how similar Angel and Edward are, it would make sense Edward's daughter follows Connor's path.
- Not to mention hyper genius, supernaturally strong, but being raised by screw ups becomes emotionally damaged and is already dependent on everyone around her? More likely River Tam's path.
- Charlie, her extremely badass grandpa will save her and afterwards teach her to become the Blade-esque vampire hunter, Nessie the Vampire Nemesis.
- What if she somehow is adopted by cat people at an early age,a group of cat people cooler in every way and better looking than Jacob's group and THEY teach her.
- Ooh, she's gonna meet the Na'vi!
Now, why would she turn villainous in the first place? Well, she's incredibly unique even for the vampire world, and everyone has been fawning over her since the moment she was born, so it's not hard to imagine that she'd develop a superiority complex of some sort. She's already shown to consider herself above regular humans, despite any affection she may have developed for Charlie. (She still wanted to drink his blood!) Emotional immaturity from growing up too fast would be another reason. As well, her fast-paced childhood would prevent her from relating to anyone her age. Or any human, for that matter. She's definitely not going to be going to school with other kids. Nope, she's probably going to be raised with minimal human contact and just run around in the woods with her big, happy, adoring family. Oh, and if that wasn't enough, she's also pretty possessive of Jacob already.
So, in short, she's going to become villainous not out of maliciousness, but by being horribly out of touch with reality, having no-one who would stand up to her, and having the perfect powers for her misguided, warped little mind to put to use in the worst way possible.
- Ergo, she is now Road Kamelot.
- ^I love you.
- She'll have to go from Younger Than They Look to Older Than They Look eventually (not sure what she can do about the Noahs' signature evil-mode tan, though — spray paint a la Death Becomes Her?).
- Since Renesmee has to touch her victim in order to exercise her power on them, it's highly unlikely she was able to use it to brainwash Jacob. However, there is still Bella. Renesmee spent a month inside Bella's body...if that doesn't count as physical contact, nothing does. She was able to read Bella's mind, learn that Bella did not want children, and subtly change her mind. It explains Bella's abrupt about-face very succinctly, in my opinion.
of Das Sporking's review of Breaking Dawn. Renesmee is unnaturally intelligent, and she realizes early on that she is the Only Sane Girl in her Big, Screwed-Up Family in which everyone is an asshole, a psychopath, an idiot, or some combination of all three. She also considers Jacob her older brother and is disgusted by both the thought of being his living puppy mill for all eternity and the fact that everyone is just going to go along with it. But she's also smart enough to hide her true feelings and ensure that she is the darling of her family and loved by everyone who comes into contact with her, so no one will see it coming when, upon reaching adulthood, she carries out a massacre to rival Uchiha Itachi's, sparing only Leah. The two of them proceed to team up with Charlie and become vampire slayers.- Jacob: Happy 7th birthday, Nessie! Time to get it on - OH FUCK MY INTESTINES ARE ON THE FLOOR.Renesmee: And now on to everyone else.
- I actually have a theory that half-vampires all have mind control over those they meet. It might explain why none of the mothers Joham impregnated wanted to abort (to be fair, abortion was probably only a thing when Nahuel's youngest sister was born, but still). The mothers want the babies (Bella had no interest in having children until she was pregnant) and they win over everyone they meet. So Renesmee's mind control is unconscious - humans love her because she's beautiful, charming and passes for human if she tries, and vampires love her because something about her is just there. It also explains why she was able to override the prejudice werewolves have against vampires. The control forces Jacob to love her.
- In either case, it does not bear further elaboration.
- Jossed, as anyone who had actually seen the movie should know: We do see Cat Man. Your argument is invalid.
- Even if he was, why is it squick? Maybe he is a cat breeder. This does relate to both money (highbred cats are expensive) and sex (between cats, mind you). Nothing squicky though.
- Jossed. The last five words were:perfect piece of our forever.
Theoretically this will lead to a Redemption Arc in the sequel, but Meyer will find it so liberating to write an evil character instead of the crap she does most of the time, she'll end up turning twilight into an Anti!Twilight series focusing on Vamp!Bella doing evil things for several books and eventually lose all sense of perspective. C'mon, it's happened to all the other Vampire Fiction Writers with long series and unpleasable fanbases. Just look at what Laurel K. Hamilton or Anne Rice did.
- The secretary (whose name is Giana) is over thirty, longs to be a vampire, and is killed over a spelling error ("It's spelled 'Carlisle' with an Essss"). SMeyer (as of the film that stinger belonged to) is over thirty, has stated that she'd ditch her husband if Edward (or Jacob) appeared to her in real life, she doesn't think humans could kill her vampires even with advanced weapons, "we die so easily" and vampires eating people is just instinct, and has had at least one spelling error ("reined in" vs "reigned in", twice).
- And the only person she has to blame for making her vampires so bloodthirsty and weirdly out-of-touch with their humanity regardless of age (Bella struggles to remember her "dim human memories" just days after being turned) is Meyer herself.
- This would make for a horrible outcome for humanity but a great setting for a role-playing game.
- Bella is clearly suffering from at minimum three mental disorders, and in her own fucked-up mind believes she deserves and is destined to be "special," and is worming her way into the Cullens for the power, beauty, wealth and immortality vampirism has to offer.
- Edward, due to dying of a flue instead of joining the army like he wanted to, is eternally enraged by how he died by a force he couldn't control instead of being the masculine hero he dreamed of being, and is trying to compensate by controlling Bella and being her "hero." He was dismissive of Rosalie because her proud nature made her someone who wouldn't need him to "rescue" her or let him control her. And speaking of Rosalie...
- Rosalie sides with Bella in the abortion debate, because she is hoping Bella will die and she can adopt Renesme for herself, finally getting the "other half" of her "happy ending."
- Emmet supports Bella's transformation into a vampire because he hears human women's periods attract bears. They can smell the menstruation.
- Alice. Oh, Alice. You can see the future, so why couldn't so much unfortunate shit have been prevented? Because Alice can see much farther into the future than she lets on. And she is moving people around like pieces on a chessboard, doing her best to ensure that some catastrophe a few centuries down the road is avoided.
- Jasper is in on the above, and helps Alice's plan by influencing others' emotions, and helping Alice keep her own in check so she has a clear head for this whole scheme
- Carlisle isn't a typical doctor. He's a mad scientist, who is trying to find a cure for the vampiric blood-lust. This "only eat animals" thing is just an experiment he's trying out over the next century or two, to observe how well he and the other Cullens handle it.
- Esme lost her baby because she was making the child sick; she has Münchhausen-by-proxy disorder. She takes pleasure in mothering five eternal teenage monsters, because they are so dependent on her.
- Jacob imprinted on Renesmee to force peace between his tribe and the Cullens, and to help cure his own ego after losing the romantic competition for Bella. Fine, now I'm gonna marry the world's most powerful human/vampire hybrid! Pfft!
- The other werewolves are nasty to Leah because she's a woman with changing powers, threatening their patriarchy
- Charlie "accepts" Bella's transformation because he's finally glad to be rid of her. Can you blame him?
- Bella's "friends" Jessica and Angela tolerate her because Jessica is a psychology student who is trying to figure out what the hell Bella has, and Angela's minister father is secretly from a long line of holy monster hunters, and her first assignment on the job is to keep tabs on the girl who's romancing the vampire and the werewolf.
- Laurent is Rick James, bitch!
