- I think you are perfectly correct. Suda51 stated his inspiration for this game was the equally bizarre film El Topo. Which was not supposed to make sense, but had an assassin killing other gunslingers. Fans try to ask him if there is anything more in common with this film, and he says no he just got the idea about assassins. People forget the point of the film and NMH is to make -no- sense.
Suda's stated that Travis won't be the protagonist in any of the future games, but I'll eat my own shoes if he doesn't make an appearance in the next game one way or another. How awesome would it be if he turned out to be a bonus boss of some sort, like Henry in the first game?
- Rather, the bosses are controlled by another player from another dimention, where the boss in question is the main character of the game. When you switch difficulties, the AI isn't getting better, instead it chooses a player with a higher skill level.
- Well if this is the case for 2, I feel so sorry for anyone who plays as jaster.
Consider the following, ladies and gentlemen: The main character is a loser, a stain upon humanity, even though he accomplishes some honestly magnificent things. Quenton Flynn (Quenton Raiden Flynn) plays the foil to him, Henry, an incredibly awesome guy. Around the end of the game, the fourth wall explodes and bizarre twists come out. Suda51 took all the basic, hated elements of MGS2, turned them up to eleven, and set them on fire.
- Given that Suda51 is now working with the Metal Gear creator on a new horror game, this seems pretty damn likely.
- Harvey Moiseiwitsch Volodarskii bears a striking resemblance to Vamp with his thick accent, flashy movements and fighting style, and ambiguous homosexuality.
- Travis' late-game remembering of his backstory bears resemblance to Raiden's.
- Perhaps Jeane is Gene's sister- which would mean Travis and (maybe) Henry are also related. Hey, their dad got around...
- Yes, but don't think Grasshopper would be the only studio that requires a steady supply of sake to keep the programmers going.
- This makes some sense if the following is true...
Let's be honest, it's far from the strangest thing that's happened in these games.
The first game had references to Killer7, and the second to Kill the Past.
Wouldn't it be cool if this optional boss got thrown down to the bottom of the ranks and had to fight her way to Travis, and win this time?
- Oof. Hope you haven't played No More Heroes III yet.
- That girl is messed up, then....
- Jeane's sped-up explanation was sped up because lil' Jeane wanted a tragic adult backstory but couldn't come up with one. When she got older, she retconned in the bit that was sped up.
- The jobs go from coconut collecting and lawn mowing to picking up cats and driving off a ramp because she got more interested in a plot near the end than the side jobs. Also, Rule of Cool built up near the end, especially with Travis and Henry's ending speech that made no sense but would sound awesome and profound to a 6 year old.
Jeane is precisely psycho enough to set this up just so her opponent would be hopeless and confused when the fight rolled around. She knows how gullible Travis is, and she has an exploitative nature. She could have gotten some random French girl to plant the seed of doubt in Travis' mind when he rang the number after fight number 2. She did something similar just before the fight: getting some random dude in a tacky costume to pull Luke, I Am Your Father and then killing him off just to unhinge our protagonist further. She may have been the one leaving the wrestling masks with notes everywhere just so he'd have a greater chance of trying to use them against her (it DOESN'T work if you do). If you think about it, the idea of the Assassins' Association being fake doesn't make sense if you factor in the huge expense of pulling such a scam, the ridiculousness of a sympathetic character insisting on his following through simply so he can "finish what he starts", and some random dude trying to assassinate him to gain his (supposedly nonexistent) rank at the end.
At the game nears its end, her machinations break Travis' feeble Otaku mind, and he starts seeing life as a videogame with the worst kind of Gainax Ending; the player is Through the Eyes of Madness. That's the only reason for the game to suddenly shatter the Fourth Wall like it does and take a turn for the (even more) bizarre.
- Alternatively, the Association exists, but the rules are radically different than what Sylvia told Travis they were. After all, the assassin who ambushes Travis in the bathroom at the end tells him that he doesn't get any notice or anything because that's not how the fights work.
- OR the Association exists, but they're not a bunch of crazy ranked fighters; the assassins Travis killed were some kind of rivals, or just murderous psychopaths that the real UAA wanted out of the way, presumably while they dealt with bigger issues...or maybe they just wanted to screw around with him and make some cash. Sylvia is either an agent or their real leader.
- The sequel confirms that the organisation does exist, but the ranked fights don't have an entry fee, Sylvia was just ripping Travis off.
- Alternatively, the association didn't exist in NMH, but Travis' story circulated in the underworld, and somebody with some power and money (possibly Batt Jr.) thought it was a great idea (and served his ow motives to boot), and funded the organization of a real UAA. The assassins the Sylvia set up were just as fooled as Travis was, probably fed some lie about having their rankings calculated by their record of proper assassinations.
- Hence the wrestling moves, the gimmicks, the pre- and post-fight posturing, etc. Travis started as a Heel, but garnered so much popularity that his handlers arranged his Heel–Face Turn in the second game.
- Relatedly, this means that nobody actually dies. It's all just very convincing special effects.
- Death Metal is a tattoo artist entrepreneur, who is also quite successful.
- Dr. Peace is of course a crooked cop.
- Shinobu, Charlie MacDonald, and Kimmy Howell go to school (obvious).
- Destroyman is a TV super hero.
- Wasn't he a postal worker?
- Yes, but that's his new job. The trading cards in-game say so, and that he's the star of the independent Destroyman films.
- Wasn't he a postal worker?
- Holly Summers runs a private weapons manufacturing company.
- Cards say that she's actually a model.
- Letz Shake is obviously a punk rock guitarist.
- Harvey Moiseiwitsch Volodarskii is a famous touring magician.
- Speed Buster...Fuck, I dunno.
- Speed Buster is homeless.
- Bad Girl was a famous ballerina (see above WMG on that).
- It's not a ballet suit, it's lolita cosplay. She's just a jacked up mess who probably killed everyone in an asylum and escaped. Maybe all those gimps are her prisoners, who used to be psychologists.
- Dark Star is a nerd who somehow obtained a large amount of money and used it to buy a castle, armor, etc.
- Nathan Copeland owns his own record company and hotel, and also runs his own religion.
- Cloe Walsh was a porn star who lost her mind and drank too much.
- Million Gunman is caretaker of the NMH universe's Fort Knox expy.
- Ryuji builds motorcycles.
- Margaret Moonlight is a free sample girl at the local food mart. Her outfit was used to attract customers.
- Free samples of what? Whenever I see someone in a Victorian dress, I don't suddenly think microwavable pizzas...
- Alternatively, she's an actual maid. Her master is an ancient vampire who looks like a little girl.
- Free samples of what? Whenever I see someone in a Victorian dress, I don't suddenly think microwavable pizzas...
- Captain Vladimir didn't even know he was a part of the UAA, so he was just a full time cosmonaut.
- Alice Twilight was already shown to have been a mother, wife, and close friend of Margaret. It's possible she worked at the food mart as well.
- Jasper Batt Jr. owns a pizza chain, and runs it with an iron fist.
- Holly Summers boss fight was the only one that featured physical traps. She was a professional with traps and purposely used her real name to lure assassins so she can test out her traps.
- Harvey Volodarski made a living off killing people on-stage. He needs the assassins to go after him so he can have fresh meat.
- Travis used his real name and because of that, an assassin found out where he lived and tried to kill him.
The song seems to be about the death of the "virgin child"'s mother, causing the child to lose her body and soul and end up in hell, smiling. Jeane states that her mother committed suicide, and that was her Start of Darkness. The references to her "corpse" are merely metaphorical.
Face it, it's the kind of Mind Screw foreshadowing that Suda 51 is used to.
It also works for Batman if you change a few lyrics.
- Shinobu was pretty damn sure that someone with a beam katana did the deed. Henry has a beam katana, is extremely good with it, and shares a family resemblance with Travis.
- Problem is, how do you confuse Henry with Travis?
- If you take away the sunglasses and change the haircut, Travis and Henry have similar facial features.
- Perhaps Henry carried out the killing like a proper assassin, utilizing stealth.
- Shinobu doesn't get startled at Travis' face, though, and in the second game, she even sees Henry. Being that it was likely a beam katana, maybe Thunder Ryu had something to do with it.
- Why not the guy who posted the Beam Katana sale that Travis bought in an ill-conceived attempt to hide the evidence?
- Problem is, how do you confuse Henry with Travis?
Think about it. Everything we see prior and after supports the idea of the UAA being real. We even meet two of its reps and the various other assassins make mention of it. The woman who claims to be Sylvia's mother is voiced by the same actress because she IS Sylvia.Sylvia's "Mother" tells Travis to keep going because that's what a "True man" does. The whole thing about it being a lie was a test to see if he would keep going to achieve the goal, even if it seemed like the reward would mean nothing. Sylvia wanted to know if he was worthy of her affections and so decided to give him a test of character. The "Periods of time" when she vanishes that Henry mentioned aren't to do with her being a con artist, he just doesn't know she's with the UAA.
- Confirmed, at least the part about the UAA being real, as their still around in NMH 2 and Travis has slid down to rank 52 as he's fallen into an Afro Samurai style depression and disinterest after reaching the number one rank.
- Unless the above WMG about Sylvia using the UAA as Ponzi Scheme Piggy Bank.
- Problem is, where would he have gone? Why would he fake his own death? Why would Jasper Batt Jr. lie about Bishop dying if it defeats the purpose of wanting to take revenge on Travis?
- Because it was actually Bishop's plan to get back at Travis for making him take his motorcycle all over the place in the first game. Except that just raises more questions.
- Disproportionate Retribution much?
- Then what was all the blood on the window after they shot him.
- That was the blood of the assassins, clearly.
- Because it was actually Bishop's plan to get back at Travis for making him take his motorcycle all over the place in the first game. Except that just raises more questions.
I have a wide encompassing WMG that will need to be broken down into several parts for optimum use.
- Part One: The Long Con
- Silvia Christel, a high ranking officer in the UAA was approached by the UAA's new Number One Assassin with a business deal, Sylvia would test a man, just a normal guy against the 11th ranked assassin in the world. If the guy lost it was no skin off her back but if the guy won she would have to guide him to the top rank (Robbing him blind along the way). This guy was Travis Touchdown and the Number One Assassin was Jeane. The reason Jeane picked Sylvia as the one to guide Travis to number one was that she was her sister in law.
- Part Two: The Doctor
- The Eighth Ranked Assassin in the UAA Dr. Peace, a mafia hit man and dirty cop, was the detective assigned to investigate the circumstances of Jeane's rape and abuse as well the murder of Travis' parents. As such when he was informed the new Number Nine coming to challenge him was Travis Touchdown he prepared the song he wrote about the above spoilered events. The Virgin Child Makes Her Wish (Without feeling anything). Perhaps as a warning or a cruel joke, either way it went way over Travis' head.
- Except that in multiple cutscenes, Travis DOES have the ability to jump.
- When you're moving through what's left of Destroy University to go fight Kimmy, right before you go between the car and Santa Death Parade's arm and those knife guys jump you, a tracer round flies at the back of Travis's head. Could it be Margaret Moonlight taking a potshot at Travis to eliminate him before he could even get to her?
- Mother of God...the voices do sound exactly the same. Requesting this be looked into further...
- Jossed; according to the Wiki, it's actually Weller, the shorter of the two men who clean up the corpses after each ranking fight.
- I think the wiki is mistaken. He doesn't sound like the voice on the answering machine (listen to him at the end of the Bad Girl fight - he has a very distinct American accent), and from what I can tell, there isn't any reason to believe it's Weller apart from speculation.
Sylvia comes to assassins under the pretense of the UAA, and for a fee, offers them a way out, one last spectacular fight before death. She asks them to pick a venue and tells them to wait for their beam-katana wielding opponent, the "No More Hero" as other assassins call him. Now, originally, this hero was Henry... until Sylvia ran into Travis and realized from his story that he had to be Henry's brother.
- Her name would be Jeane Cooldown, since Henry's last name is Cooldown.
- Most likely not, as it turns out Jeane is Sylvia's daughter with Travis. Travis mentioning that he has a wife means that Sylvia probably took his surname upon marriage (i.e. Jeane Touchdown), but it's possible their kid's named Jeane Christel-Touchdown instead (which is still the same brand of cool name that Suda's fond of).
- Wait-wait-wait, so he actually... had a dinner in a restaurant with HER? Now I'd like to see THIS.
- "Oh the food? Tasted like blood."
- It must have been tough for her to order when the only menu item she could see was "Kill The Whores".
- Well...we only see her after Dr. Peace dies, so she could've had a breakdown.
- I never imagined Bad Girl liking rap...
- Jossed in Travis Strikes Again.
Since "Philistine" is a "The Reason You Suck" Speech to Travis, it stands to reason that she sings it to her other targets, too. Now, not all of them are vengeful otakus, so she changes the lyrics to fit what she thinks is wrong with them.
Timelord, mutant, immortal, meta-human, whatever. It's clear from observation that he possesses some degree of superhuman durability, with similarly heightened reflexes and strength.
- He's a video game protagonist. Go figure.
- The look on his face when Silvia shows up in the latest Desperate Struggle trailer seems to suggest otherwise. [1] It strikes me that he indeed cares he was screwed with, though it doesn't seem that he care much.
- He could also have just been in shock when Jeane punched him. And he did freak out when Holly dropped the grenades on him.
- That theory is entirely too normal for No More Heroes. Instead, I propose that she was a ballerina that was sleeping with the director to get the leading part, and was replaced with another dancer without being warned. Well and truly pissed off, she proceeded to kill everyone related to the production, taking the time to dress the bastard director in a gimp suit and clone him so that she could kill him at will. Which is why she has a seemingly infinite supply of clone gimps.
- So obviously Shinobu believes she's an anime character... and Travis probably spared her because of his respect for anime.
- More likely, samurai films.
- Destroyman is a '90s Anti-Hero, doomed to a spectacularly bloody death.
- Harvey: The Phantom of the Opera, nuff said.
- Death Metal is content with his life and believes that the world has nothing more for him. It didn't.
- Letz Shake believed he was a badass rocker.
- Holly Summers believed she was a genius in a world full of wreckless assassins.
- Darkstar believed he was an expy of Darth Vader.
- Skelter Helter believed himself to be a Final Fantasy style hero.
- Ryuji thought he was a Silent Protagonist.
- Jasper Batt Jr.: He's the goddamn Batman.
- Matt Helms thought he was a horror movie villain.
- Henry thought he was the cool handsome foil to the main protagonist.
- Bad Girl thought she was an angry hooker.
- Nathan Copeland thought he was a rapper.
- Cloe Walsh thought she was a succubus.
- Kimmy Howell thought she was a Mary Sue.
- Or a Yandere
- Charlie Macdonald thought he was a character from Gundam.
- Dr Letz Shake believed himself to be a living robot. Period.
- Million Gunman thought he was a Bond villain.
- Margaret thought she was the Grim Reaper.
- Captain Vladimir thought he was a russian during the cold war.
- Alice thought she was a tragic heroine.
- Hairstyles aren't genetic.
- Since the game has come out, the character was known to be Alice Twilight.
Thus, what most likely happened was that Travis and Henry's parents couldn't afford to keep two children, and so reluctantly decided to give one up for adoption. Jeane's father left her mother to shack up with his new lover, and they adopted Travis. Jeane eventually killed Travis' adoptive parents, sending him on the path to becoming an assassin. It's entirely possible Dark Star is Travis' biological father; Jeane may have known this and killed him just to be a bitch.
- That would explain why their last names are different. If they were their biological parents, why would Henry have the last name "Cooldown" instead of "Touchdown"?
She knows all about Travis and refers to him as "Travis the Great" and became an assassin just so she could meet him. Given that Jennifer apparently had a terrible relationship with her father, knew about his work and doubtless heard how he died, I can see her being grateful to Travis for killing Dr Peace.I can also see her trying to KILL him, given that revenge seems to be a trait assassins share, however insane the reasons
- An interesting idea, though the actual game tells us that her name is Kimmy Howell. It could be a ruse, I suppose, but it seems unlikely.
- Haha, and she would teach all her students to use beam katanas to help Travis when he needs it.
- Hang on, I thought that she was a student. That certainly looked like a uniform that she was wearing.
- She is a student. She was only a teenager in the first game.
- She does have a new forearm, so that takes care of "cyborg".
- Alice seemed to have a good head on her shoulders until Travis chopped it off. Partially reinforced by his bouts with Ryuji and Vladimir though.
- Speed Buster was also pretty sane herself.
- Mind you, by that point, she had just killed Thunder Ryu, Travis' mentor. He was probably blind with rage at the time.
- By the time he fought Kimmy, it was less "can't killa girl" and more "can't kill a kid". Hell, that may have been in play with Shinobu as well.
- You forgot Ryuji, who he never properly met, and Captain Vladmir, whose fight was just due to Poor Communication Kills.
- Ryuji was a noble warrior, and was basically Travis with Dragon motifs, and Captain Vlad was so tragic Travis wanted him to die peacefully.
- You forgot Ryuji, who he never properly met, and Captain Vladmir, whose fight was just due to Poor Communication Kills.
Simmilar but different to the above WMG Alice Twilight and Margaret Moonlight were lovers within the UAA. Alice, upon hearing of Margaret's death loses heart which is why she's so depressive and defeatist when Travis finally encounters her and it's why she's burning the pictures and diaries when Travis meets her...she's lost everything and only craves death at this point.This is also why Margaret is more "Detached" from the games, sniping from afar. She's not interested in climbing the ranks, only in keeping any potential challengers away from Alice
- Well "Boys cannot crack the oyster shell" according to Margaret (Euphemism ahoy)...
- Hmmm.....Alice's post death credits say "Moonlight". Accident; yes. Similar.to twilight? Yeap. Safe to say jossed; Suda51 isn't THAT crazy.
- I don't think the joss is safe at all. In addition to the above (in particular the lyric being "BOYS cannot crack this oyster shell") hints at her lesbianism. We may not know when they had anything going on, be it before or after the death of Alice's husband and son, but I think it's more than possible. Also, what the heck does a potentially lesbian relationship in a suda51 game have to do with standards?
We find out in Desperate Struggle that Sylvia and Henry divorced sometime between the first and second game. Obviously, their relationship seems to have hit some sort of stumbling block. While this doesn't rule out the possibility of the two never having sex before that point, it's not too far-fetched either. Then, Sylvia shows up at the No More Heroes motel to make good on her promises from the first game before Travis goes off to fight Pizza Batt, Jr. They do it. Their passion is so great that it culminates in a Funny Moment. "DOWNWARD FUCKING DOG!", indeed. So, who's to say that Travis didn't impregnate Sylvia at that point? It becomes quite clear that Travis and Sylvia hook up for real in the sequel, as in the epilogue Sylvia affectionately calls Travis "my No More Hero." Or at least, that's how I interpreted it. I guess that it must have been some really good sex if Sylvia was somehow able to squirm her way out of the mess she caused for him in the first game with the UAA. Anyway, if Suda's words are to be believed about Travis' story being finished, but the series continuing, my guess is that Travis and Sylvia settled down somewhere and had a daughter who Travis named in memory of his half-sister Jeane (at this point, Travis doesn't hold any ill-will for Jeane, as she had a Death Equals Reconciliation moment in the first game). Flash-forward a few years, and we're at the museum, where Sylvia is telling her daughter about her daddy and uncle and how they got to this point. But hey, what do I know?
- Confirmed in Travis Strikes Again: No More Heroes. And it turns out Jeane has a brother too.
Their theme songs are way too suspiciously similar to be coincidence. Also Cloe's hair is the same color and style as Speed Buster's, and you fight her at an Akashic Point where reality is messed up. Also both Cloe and Speed Buster kiss Travis and clearly are attracted to him.
That Groin Attack he received might have been painful, but given how people in the No More Heroes universe like Destroyman and Letz Shake have managed to survive much worse, who's to say he didn't just pass out and come to later? No one actually bothers to check on him, and as mentioned in a previous WMG, he may have sent his pupil Ryuji to try and deal with Travis while he recovered.
- Not to mention, when people die in NMH, there is always the parodistical gratuitously violent impalings or mutilations. He just lies there like nobody's business.
Simply put, he really didn't have any idea he was a ranked assassin. Once upon a time, Sylvia and/or co. stumbled upon him, probably floating around in circles in the middle of nowhere. They realized that he attacks anyone he sees with his real-Soviet-damage-satellite. After that, they just send out some up-and-coming fighter against him, who he kills for the glory of Mother Russia. Travis was probably not the first to stumble in, with many others facing him under like-wise conditions.
- And how did he get that way? I'm guessing Alien Abduction. He's possessing technology and abilities that seem suitably impossible and alien, and he's been driven so mad he doesn't realize he's still on Earth. He was trapped in a neverending nightmare... until Travis freed him.
- Also, considering that he seems to just vanish after you beat and he realizes he's on Earth, he's a ghost, but didn't want to pass onto, where ever the hell dead people go in the NMH universe, until he got back to Earth.
- Then how did Alice and Batt get above him? I mean, unless the UAA only had two people in it at the time Vladimir was discovered...
- The initial ratings of the new UAA were based on prexisting assassination "stats". Since Batt Jr. had a hand in making the organization, he was able to alter the records to put himself at the top, and Alice simply started somewhere above Vladimir.
- The problem is, Ryuji isn't fought at an akashic point!
- 1: they're both Ax-Crazy Serial Killers
- 2: Bad Girl says "They're all going to pay." They could possibly be the people who put Cloe away
- 3: they look really similar, apart from the hair and clothing.
- Also, they could be Dr. Peace's daughters. Cloe could have changed her name to Walsh after he disowned her after she was arrested. Bad Girl/Jennifer could have changed her name to Bad Girl, possibly by deed poll after Cloe was arrested.
- Sure, people point out the fact they have different names, but then Fridge Brilliance comes in when you remember Twilight is Happily Married (or, at least, used to be), and thus likely has her husband's last name.
- Jossed Jeane (the cat) in NMH 3 sounds nothing like Jeane (the person) and acts less than her than she did in TSA.
Something is missing from the California skies throughout the game - airplanes. In Killer7, all air traffic is said to be permanently grounded to reduce the risk of terrorism. You're in the center of what appears to be a large California city (Santa Destroy has its own stadium), but there's no sign of an airport anywhere nearby. Further, all the wrestling masks you find have "M.S." on the notes tucked into them. One of the Smiths was MASK DE Smith, professional wrestler. And finally, Dr. Peace bears a ridiculously close resemblance to Curtis Blackburn - he dies, but in the Killer7 universe, this isn't exactly the end. Presumably, the game takes place some point either before or soon after Emir Parkreiner killed the Smiths and himself, becoming Garcian Smith.
- So what relation do the Smiths have to the UAA, if any?
- Rogues. Kun Lan manipulated them into sending Emir to kill them as part of that round of his "games" with Harmon.
- Supporting evidence: Zaka TV and ISZK Electronics exist in both games. Also, the various assassins' henchmen die in a manner reminiscent to that of the Heaven Smiles, especially the Ulmeyda Smile. Perhaps the henchmen are proto-Smiles?
- Suda51 was actually asked this in an interview with the magazine NGamer. His response was: No. So, theory busted.
- With that Jossed, how about an alternative: No More Heroes is an alternate universe of Killer7, perhaps one where their plans went off the rails at some point.
- Dan Smith could be an alternate Travis or Henry! He's even Irish!
- Judging by the normal ending this is what I am going with. Travis is parallel to Travis and died "on his first outing" (when he'd stopped with the ranking and tried honest assassination drawing the attention of the Smith Syndicate aka Emir Parkreiner). The break is that in killer7 Travis is background and simply exists to fulfill this role. The events in Killer7 being the abandoned "Heroes" game. T.Touchdown is Travis as canon gary stu in No More Heroes so he avoids the obvious failures and gets to stroll through life living a dream that still punctures holes in his ego but just enough he can survive and recover. With Desperate Struggle the Killer7 future is completely averted though similar forces will be at work.
- In Heroes Travis likely was just attacking other bad guys in gladiatorial events on the black market with experimental weaponry set up by Sylvia and Naomi's parallel. When "peace" broke out he ended up a liability being the survivor of the crucible. The Heroes scam was initially set up to subvert and consolidate the assassins and likely test the paranormal technology of killer7-verse. This lead to the formation of the "modern" Smith Syndicate in its killer7 incarnation and Garcian's "loyalty test" being the slaying of Travis so he wouldn't get out of hand.
- Henry is likely the chaos butterfly here, ala the twins from Children of Dune. An unexpected twist he alters the history and intention of events by existing. Moving Sylvie to desperate conniving housewife from sugary honeytrap promoter and killing Emir Parkreiner. Off screen he beats his wings or just kills things or pollinates making events going off the rails.
- The paranormal mythology/background of killer7-verse still exists. Although Kunlan has been killed, hasn't been reincarnated, or has been made irrelevant with the changes brought by Henry the physics and mythical forces still exist just interact differently. Batt Jr would be vulgar but could exist in killer7verse with a change of political landscape. The Gardens of Madness exist in both verses as to other idiosyncrasies. Madness (or mono-focus and sheer belief and perception in defiance of reality) more explicitly in NMHverse can be utilized for temporal effect but its still a source of power in killer7verse. The problem is as Emir and T.Touchdown found out its a traitorous and unreliable power very dependent on it controlling and subverting you more than empowering and enabling you. Actually ALL the assassins have this problem. Walking a path of blood or crazy and finding they've lost something along the way. their names, their pasts, even Death Metal he likely hadn't succumbed suffered the fate of many high ranking criminals of material opulence and no peace at home or within.
- With that Jossed, how about an alternative: No More Heroes is an alternate universe of Killer7, perhaps one where their plans went off the rails at some point.
- It's less that killer7 wasn't part of Kill the Past but more that it took place in an alternate timeline. NMH would be back in the main timeline, and the shout outs to killer7 are actually hints as to how the events of that game went down in this world.
- Jossed in one of the earlier interviews.
- Easier theory: Suda51 is a Troper. Yes, you. Love your work.
- Also, beam katanas are a lot like lightsabers, but since Star Wars doesn't exist in the NMH universe, they had to make their own weapon.
- There is a poster in both the Beef Head and Travis room of a movie that looks a lot like Star Wars, so maybe some kind of super nerd built a real lightsaber and then everyone wanted one.
- Also, beam katanas are a lot like lightsabers, but since Star Wars doesn't exist in the NMH universe, they had to make their own weapon.
- That would explain PWLBJ....
Think about it. A character obsessed with becoming the "Number One" who lost his parents at a young age, causing him to become a killer? Not one but TWO faces from the past, appearing and seeking his death? A bitter enemy swapping allegiance and saving his life at the very last moment? The inhabitant of a screwed up world where bizarre assassins, thugs and super beings are common? All he's missing is a Ninja Ninja expy.
- As of NMH 2: Desperate Struggle, we learn Travis lost heart and sunk into depression after reaching the number one rank, until a sudden shocking event forces him out of retirement and he has to climb the path to becoming Number One once again. Sound familiar? :)
- How do you fail a psychological evaluation from R.E.D.?
- Not paranoid enough. RED employees regularly shoot each other in case one of them is a spy, whereas Travis was actually willing to shake his opponent's hand.
- Also, Travis has been reluctant to kill his targets on several occasions. The current team may all be insane, but they can be relied upon to kill efficiently.
- Worth noting that Travis's VA is the same as the Medic.
- Alternately: The RED Medic is Travis' father. Same kinked eyebrows, square jawline, hooked nose, penchant for smirking, widow's peak, both assassins, and use charged weapons.
- Or Medic is Travis's grandfather. After the events of Team Fortress 2 Medic settles down with his family in Ireland, where his daughter marries a local by the name of Touchdown. Believing Travis to be the less talented of her sons, she decides to bring him up as a normal boy in America, while leaving her other son Henry with his grandfather to continue the family tradition as an assassin. Meanwhile BLU Scout opens a pizza joint back home in Boston called Pizza Bat. When he passes away at an early age due to BONK! overdose his son takes over the family business and turns it into a hugely successful chain. The rest becomes history.
- Looks like he got the position after all.
- But she's extremely misandric, yet the Sniper's parents seemingly live together.
- So it was Kyon then?
- Let's take this further: Haruhi is the creation of Sylvia. Sylvia is using all of Travis' favourite anime tropes to wring more money out of him with books, dvds, Image Song albums, collectables, and so on. Everyone else just happens to be caught up in the scam, making it her most successful scam to date. Travis found this out, which is why he's pissed at her in the sequel and wants to take her down. BAM.
- Or even better still: Travis Touchdown created Haruhi Suzumiya! His passion for anime lead him to create the ultimate in Moe, which led to the creation of the five MC's of the show. Haruhi, the one with the most raw otaku loser sex appeal, absorbed so much that she gained godlike powers!
Both use rocket launchers. Both use grenades. Both use shovels to attack. The entire lead up to the 6th ranked battle is military-themed despite neither of them being actual soldiers. Granddaddy was obviously a bad influence...
- Also, she kills herself with a grenade when her health gets too low.
- Actually, while not an enlisted soldier, she is likely employed by the U.S. government, which would explain why she has the support of soldiers.
Scots/Irish accented guy of African descent. In the media, very rare.
During the three-year time skip between the two No More Heroes games, Shinobu attended one of the academies of Senran Kagura as a foreign exchange student, and graduated with flying colors.
- Adding onto this, there is a scene in Shinovi Versus where Haruka tells Ryouna to "head for the Garden of Madness". Hmmm... where have we heard that line before?
- The space suit is not indestructible - it just seems to be because of the energy barrier it generates in front of it.
- Professor Willow is Travis Touchdown's Vitriolic Best Buds, and he seems to work along Doctor Naomi before he works on his own. He is also implied to be involved in the development of Death Drive Mk2, led by Dr Juvenile. He is also aware that both Dr Juvenile and Naomi are sisters, as both, at some points, know Professor Willow.
- Blanche, Candela and Spark were assassins of (or at least, associated with) UAA, before they decided to create Friendly Rivalry teams in GO.
- Shinobu, as of 2019, is a Pokémon GO player, and some people likened her to Candela, and vice versa. Similarly, Travis has a Nintendo 64, which can play Pokémon Stadium games.