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  1. Airlocked: CECEpedia is written to be an In-Universe fan wiki, functioning less as an actual reference for the game and more as a collaborative Word of Saint Paul generator focusing on the IC fandom's knowledge and theories.
  2. Azur Lane: The Azur Lane Wiki, and another Azur Lane Wiki, and yet another Azur Lane Wiki. The Koumakan wiki is generally preferred by the community. The ALG wiki is primarily used for its repository of sprites and L2D animations from the game.
  3. beatmania: For English speakers there's RemyWiki, for Japanese speakers there's BEMANIWiki. Both are general Bemani wikis that cover IIDX in addition to the rest of the Bemani games. RemyWiki in particular started out as a IIDX-centric wiki before later expanding to other games.
  4. Beck: Whiskeyclone.net, originating in the 90's, it's less of a wiki, and more of a fansite, as it's only ran by one person. However, it contains lryics, information and notes on literally everything Beck has ever released — or in some cases, hasn't released, so it pretty much serves the same purpose.
  5. BEMANI: RemyWiki, which originally started as an English-language beatmania IIDX wiki (it is a sister to the forum and score tracking site Solid State Squad, formerly VJ Army), but has since expanded into a general English-language Bemani resource covering most active franchises. The name comes from its founder, Dan "Remy" Dickinson.
  6. Big Mouth: The Big Mouth Wiki. Amusingly, there are several characters whose character designs are too explicit to even be pictured on that wiki.
  7. BlazBlue: As expected, but be aware that almost a decade's worth of inconsistent dubs and localization has resulted in the wiki using the original terms translated from the Japanese version. For example the "Azure Grimoire" is now the "Blue Grimoire" so be ready for there to be some clash of terminology if you've never been there before. This one is being created in response to the above terms issue as well as other controversies associated with the Wikia although it is very much a work in progress.
  8. Bluey Capsules: This is the link of the wiki for BlueyCapsules.
    • This Wiki Rule is actually different from most, as the wiki is run and maintained by the creators of the comic rather than the fans.
  9. Trivia/Bombergirl: Bomberpedia has an article dedicated to Bombergirl, but it is missing some aspects of the game that have yet to be documented. English-speaking fans of the game from the r/Bombergirl reddit also has created another wiki of their own that features gameplay strategies and how to install the game's PC version, but is also under construction.
  10. Brutal Orchestra: Brutal Orchestra Wiki. Bonus points for the creator adding information herself to the wiki, which can be seen on any trivia entries that link to the "Talia" page.
    "Any citation that links here was written by ItsTheTalia, who originally wrote them for the Fandom wiki, and got ported over into here."
  11. Bubble Guppies: It has one, although it's bogged down with LOTS of spam edits, trolls, no active admins, and particularly hilarious commentators that degrade the characters and force Ship-to-Ship Combat.
  12. Chaos Wars: Here. The site author hilariously tries to discourage you from playing this game.

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  1. AdaptationalAttractiveness.Live Action Films: The novel Brighton Rock concerns a romance (of sorts) between two teenagers from an impoverished background. In the book, the boy has bitten-down fingernails and wears a shabby suit, and his face is covered with peach fuzz because he's not shaving yet. The girl is skinny almost to the point of emaciation and has thinning hair. In the 1948 movie, they're played by much more conventionally attractive (as well as Dawson Cast) actors. The girl wears well-applied makeup, and the boy's suit is (though flashy and arguably distasteful) in good repair.
  2. YMMV.A Nightmare On Elm Street Part 2 Freddys Revenge: Grady's death. Trapped in his room with Freddy slowly closing for the kill, he starts screaming for his father to come and help. Similar to Glen's death in the original, as he dies screaming for his mother, it reminds viewers that, Dawson Casting aside, in this universe, these are teenage children that Freddy is preying on.
  3. Questionable Casting: Sometimes the result of Fake Nationality, Not Even Bothering with the Accent or a combination of the two. Race Lift and Dawson Casting are also sometimes factors. In live-action media this may lead to cases of Hollywood Genetics. Can definitely stem from Ability over Appearance when an actor's talent and acting ability lands them the part despite their overall look not being what the filmmakers originally envisioned for the role.
  4. ArtisticLicenseHistory.Gladiator: Commodus was eighteen when Marcus Aurelius died (though in Franzoni's defence, he is described as such in the script, so we can consider Joaquin Phoenix being cast as a case of Dawson Casting). He ruled for 12 years before his murder, not just 150 days of games. He was also described as tall, muscular, with a face "handsome without being pretty", blond, and with curly beard and hair, just like his father.
  5. Creator.Oona Laurence: She looks and frequently plays characters younger then she actually is, which leads to a lot of Dawson Casting.
  6. Funny.Wet Hot American Summer First Day Of Camp: The most blatant use of Dawson Casting ever, as tweenaged Abby - who is convinced that Boys Have Cooties - gets her first period and hides in a bathroom stall... only to emerge boy-crazy, and played by 41-year-old Marisa Ryan.

Adults playing teenager/kids

  1. YMMV.Pokemon Live: The entire show thanks to the Dawson Casting and plot elements that feel lifted from a fanfic (such as MechaMew2 and Delia's secret past). It gets this even more in hindsight as the plot revolves around Ash growing up and him staying with Misty and Brock, which the anime itself moved on from.
  2. RealityIsUnrealistic.Live Action TV: Glee, Much has been made by fans and critics alike that most of the cast members playing teenagers are clearly in their 20's or even 30's, particularly the male students. While this is true, it ignores the very real fact that different people age at different speeds, and it is completely possible for two teenage boys to be in the same grade despite one of them sporting a heavy beard and deep voice and the other unable to grow facial hair and squeaking like a 10-year-old (eg. Kurt, played by Chris Colfer, the only cast member who was still in his teens, albeit late teens, at the start of the show). It may look odd to see mid-30's Matthew Morrison playing a teacher the same age that he is while Cory Monteith and Mark Salling (both in their late 20's) played students in their late teens, despite them all three looking about the same age, but that's only due to how rare it is to see it on television. Many young-looking teachers in real life are mistaken for students, while many teens ages 15-18 are mistaken for adults (or, conversely, much younger children).
  3. Trivia.Pat Benatar: She played a teenage runaway in the "Love Is a Battlefield" video when she was 30 years old, and in that song she repeatedly sings about how "we are young".
  4. Creator.Lillian Gish: invoked Several times, including playing a 15-year-old girl when she was 26 in the classic Broken Blossoms.
  5. Trivia.Jasper In Deadland: Jasper, Gretchen and Agnes are all 17, so the 5th Avenue actors (along with the Off-Broadway actors) were roughly a decade older than the characters they were playing.
  6. Trivia.Kids:
    • Chloë Sevigny was 19 playing the 13-year-old Jennie. The actress she replaced (see below) was the same age.
    • The 12-year-old Telly sleeps with in his opening scene is played by Sarah Henderson, who was 17. For obvious reasons, casting an older actress in this role was necessary.
  7. Trivia.Oranges Are Not The Only Fruit: Charlotte Coleman was in her early twenties when playing teenage Jess.
  8. Trivia.I Can Do Bad All By Myself: Hope Olaidé Wilson was 24 playing 16-year-old Jennifer.
  9. Trivia.Back To The Future: Marty, Lorraine, George, Biff, Jennifer, etc. Makes some sense in Lorraine, George, and Biff's cases, since in the first movie they had to play both their teenage selves and their adult selves. Initially, not so much the case with Jennifer, who was played by 19-year old Claudia Wells in the first film, but then played by 26-year old Elisabeth Shue in the Sequels and that wig she wore to make her resemble Lea Thompson made her look every bit her age.
  10. Trivia.Bloody Bloody Andrew Jackson: Walker, a six-foot twentysomething stud, spends the first ten minutes of the show playing a ten year-old version of Jackson.
  11. Trivia.Purple Rain: Appolina's application form gives her age as 19. She was 25 at the time.
  12. Trivia.Arlo The Alligator Boy: Michael J. Woodard, who is in his early 20s, is cast as the 15-year-old Arlo.
  13. Trivia.Dry Summer: Osman convinces Hasan to take the blame for Veli Sari's murder partly by telling him he will get a lighter sentence because he's young. This implies Hasan is a minor, when the actor Ulvi Dogan was in his thirties (and looked it).
  14. Film.St Trinians: St. Trinian's isn't Catholic but the trope still applies to the some of the senior girls ("St. Trinian's Girl" is the British name for this trope, and the 2007 movie provides the trope image - helps the vast majority of the cast invokedwere in their 20s).).
  15. Trivia.Fortysomething: Benedict Cumberbatch was about six or seven years older than university student Rory; sixteen-year-old Edwin was played by twenty-year-old Joe Van Moyland.

Others

  1. Trivia.Fifty Shades Of Grey: Elena 'Mrs Robinson' Lincoln is said to be in her late 30's or early 40's in the books. In the films, she's played by Kim Basinger, who was nearly 63 during filming.
  2. Trivia.Jungle Cruise: The real Prince Joachim was 25 at the time the movie takes place. Jesse Plemons was already in his early 30s.
  3. Trivia.Hard Candy: Elliot Page was seventeen playing a (supposedly) fourteen year old girl. This has sparked fan theories that Hayley was pretending to be underage.
  4. Trivia.Psycho Daughter: Sydney Sweeney was 20 when she played Samantha, who was just a few weeks past her 18th birthday.
  5. Trivia.The Constant Gardener: Then 34/35 year old Rachel Weisz as 24 year old Tessa.
  6. Trivia.Mimpi Metropolitan:
    • The 19/20-years-old main trio are played by mid-20s actors. In Bambang's case (whose actor is the oldest at 28), people in-universe also think that Bambang doesn't look like his age.
    • Juna is 19 years old according to his ID and 21 years old according to dialogue, but is played by 24-years-old Harris Vriza.
    • Dian is said to be Bambang's younger cousin, but his actor is much older than Bambang's (39 years old).
  7. Trivia.Halloween 2018:
    • Nick Castle plays 61-year-old Michael Myers, while he himself is 71. However, James Jude Courtney, Michael's actor for most of the film, was 61, Michael's exact age, during the time of filming.
    • The high school students included 24-year-old Andi Matchiak (Allyson), 24-year-old Dylan Arnold (Cameron), 23-year-old Virginia Gardner (Vicki), and 26-year-old Miles Robbins (Dave).
    • Jamie Lee Curtis is three years older than Laurie's age in the film. This coincidentally matches the first film as well, where she was twenty playing seventeen.
  8. Trivia.The Hills Have Eyes 1977: Brenda, who is presumably in her late teens, is played by the then-30 Susan Lanier. This would make her a year older than Dee Wallace, who portrays Brenda's older sister Lynne.
  9. Trivia.The Catherine Tate Show: It's a sign of Tate's acting skill that she can play opposite Matthew Horne as both his high school love interest (Lauren) and his grandmother (Nan). Horne himself is in his thirties.
  10. Trivia.Sabrina The Teenage Witch:
    • Melissa Joan Hart was twenty when Season 1 aired, playing Sabrina at sixteen. She doesn't turn eighteen until Melissa herself was twenty-four.
    • Nate Richert was an aversion - he was seventeen and emancipated from his parents so he could work longer hours.
    • Jenna Leigh Green and Michelle Beaudoin were the oldest of the actors playing high schoolers - already twenty-two and twenty-one respectively.
    • Lindsay Sloane meanwhile was the same age as Valerie.
    • Donald Faison was 23 playing fellow teenage witch Dashiel.
    • It extends to the college seasons as well. Roxie is nineteen, but Soleil Moon Frye was twenty-four. Elisa Donovan was nearly thirty as Morgan (who is twenty-one at the oldest). Trevor Lissauer was twenty-five.
    • One of the student extras was a balding man!
  11. Trivia.Freaks And Geeks: Averted by John Francis Daley (14), Martin Starr (16), Samm Levine (16) and, surprisingly, Seth Rogen (17). Downplayed with Jason Segel (19) and Busy Philipps (19). Played straight by James Franco (21) and Linda Cardellini (23).
  12. Trivia.Star Wars: Retroactive example with Wedge Antilles. In the movie he is played by 28-29 year old Dennis Lawson, but in Rebels is revealed that he is almost the same age as Ezra and Sabine.
  13. WMG.Cobra Kai: There will be a Running Gag of people telling Terry Silver he looks too young to have fought in Vietnam.

  14. Trivia.The 300 Spartans:
    • Sixty year-old Ralph Richardson as forty-four year old Themistocles.
    • Fifty-four year old David Farrar as thirty-nine year old Xerxes I.
  15. Trivia.Unnatural History: Italia Ricci (Maggie) was 24 at the time of filming. A bit of a stretch for someone playing a high schooler, but she makes it work.
  16. Trivia.Life With Derek:
    • Played straight with Ashley Leggat who was 19/20 playing a 15-year-old, and with Michael Seater who was 18 playing a 15-year-old.
    • This was averted with Daniel Madger (Edwin), Jordan Todosey (Lizzie), and Ariel Waller (Marti), who were all around their characters' ages at the time of filming.
      • Actually, Daniel Madger is four years older than Jordan Todosey, despite them playing characters that are around the same age.
  17. Trivia.Kamen Rider Zi O:
    • The then 21 years old Gaku Oshida and 20 years old Shieri Ohata portrays 18-years-old Geiz and Tsukiyomi respectively.
    • Played straight with 22-year-old Atomu Mizuishi, who portrayed the then 18-year-old Ryuichi Sakuma/Another Faiz/Fourze in the 2003 era, and inverted when he also portrays the 26/33-year-old versions of Ryuichi in 2011 and 2018 respectively.
    • A downplayed example with 34-year-old Kento Handa; reprising his role as Takumi Inui, he mostly appears in The Present Day but, for a few seconds, he also portrays his 18-year-old self in new footage featuring Takumi's powers being erased in 2003.
    • 17/24/28-year-old Yuko Kitajima/Another Kiva is played by 40-year-old Yumiko Shaku.
  18. Creator.Isabelle Fuhrman:
    • Zigzagged in Orphan. She was 11 playing the 9-year-old Esther Coleman. Except Esther is actually a 33-year-old woman who suffers from dwarfism.
    • Inverted in The Hunger Games. While Clove's age is never stated in the books, it's implied that she is one of the older tributes, making her at least 16, while Fuhrman was 14 at the time of filming.
    • Played straight with the Orphan prequel First Kill, where she reprises her role as Esther at age 25. The filmmakers have used primarily practical makeup and camera effects to "de-age" her.
  19. Trivia.Surviving Middle School A Bullying Story: The voice actors often don't sound like the 11- or 12-year-olds they portray.
  20. Trivia.Sherlock Holmes:
    • Some thought that Jeremy Brett was too old to play Holmes. Brett was 51 when he started the series and Holmes is meant to be in his thirties.
    • In The Sign of Four, Thaddeus and Bartholomew Sholto were supposed to be thirty years old, although Ronald Lacey was 51 when he played them.
  21. Trivia.The Rocketeer: Kit, who is 7, is voiced by the 14-year-old Kitana Turnbull.
  22. Creator.Edoardo Nevola: He was 42 when he started to voice teenage Will Smith in Fresh Prince. And ironically, his portrayal of Will was higher-pitched than Will Smith's real voice.
  23. Creator.Tamzin Merchant:
    • Notably averted with her role as Georgiana Darcy in the 2005 adaptation of Pride and Prejudice; Georgiana has recently turned 16 years old while Merchant herself was 17 during filming. Georgiana was one of Merchant's first roles.
    • Katherine Howard is believed to have mostly likely been born in 1523, making her around 17 when she married Henry VIII in 1540 and 19 when she was executed in 1542. Merchant was around 21 when she first played Katherine (before her marriage to Henry), though this is understandable given the sexual nature of the role; Merchant was also able to pass for a teenager well. It's also worth noting some sources place Katherine's birth year slightly earlier, which would make Merchant almost exactly the right age.
    • She was 22 when she played Daenerys in the Game of Thrones pilot, who is 16-turning-17 at the beginning of the show; once again this is understandable given some of the stuff Daenerys goes through; she was already aged up from 13-turning-14 as she was in the books.
    • Imogen Spurnrose is 22 in Carnival Row's first season, while Merchant was in fact 30 and turned 31 during the filming of Season 1. The second season takes place a few months after the first, so Imogen is about the same age while Merchant was 33/34 during filming and turned 36 by the time Season 2 finished airing.
  24. Creator.Winona Ryder: Averted early in her career, when she was close in age to most of her teenaged characters. She was sometimes criticized for playing teen roles ("I'm like, 19. What do they want me to play, a judge?"). She became a straighter example of the trope as she grew older. She was 28 in Girl, Interrupted whilst her character was 18. Her petite frame and wide eyes contribute to looking much younger.

  25. Trivia.Lazer Team:
    • The official document concerning "six-year-senior" and high school quarterback Zach as seen in the film lists his birth year as 1996. Michael Jones was born in 1987.
    • Likewise, Woody's birth year is seen as 1995. Gavin Free was born in 1988.

  26. Trivia.Eureka: In the episode with the isolation environment. Wound up making the "long distance relationship" going on there really creepy. Completely averted by Zoe, however (Jordan Hinson is actually about two months younger than her character). During the pilot Hinson was 13 playing 15, but, by the time of the series she was closer to her character's age.
  27. Trivia.Wet Hot American Summer First Day Of Camp:
    • Even more ridiculous than the film with everyone being fourteen years older but playing a couple months younger. And there's a couple special cases, as Lindsay is really an adult undercover for a magazine article (though 41 year old Elizabeth Banks is still playing significantly younger than her real age), and Abby is played by a real teenage actress until she gets her first period.
    • Though funnily enough, many viewers have noted the joke largely falls flat as many of the actors don't seem to have aged a day (the big exception being Michael Showalter, who is not only visibly older but has also put on a significant amount of weight).
    • Kinda subverted with Samm Levine, who at his 33 years still sounds very much like in the original film, filmed not so long after acting in Freaks and Geeks.
  28. Trivia.Drop Dead Gorgeous: To varying degrees. For instance, Brittany Murphy was 21 and Amy Adams was 24 during filming. Meanwhile, Denise Richards was old enough to be going to her ten-year reunion. Surprisingly averted with the lead, though. Kirsten Dunst was actually 16 during filming, a year younger than her character.
  29. Trivia.Mira Royal Detective:
    • Mira, who is 8, is voiced by Leela Ladnier, who is 16.
    • Some of the child characters, Priya, Neel and Veer for example, are voiced by actors in their teens or 20s; Meena and Pinky are voiced by women who are at least 30 and 40.
  30. Trivia.Allo Allo: Prior to this show, Richard Gibson had been Typecast as a an actor who played youths. Herr Flick gave him the chance to show that he could play older characters as well.
  31. Trivia.Scream The TV Series: Applies to all actors portraying the main cast, who are all in their 20s while playing high school students. The only aversion is Riley, who is played by 17-year-old Brianne Tju
  32. WMG.Merlin 2008: Mentioned earlier on the page, but it has enough merit to be recognized. Morgause appears older than Morgana, enough that having a child around his age is not out of the realm of possibility, and we really have no idea what she's been up to before showing up in Camelot. She might have given up the child to his Druid father or, due to prophecies, left him behind with supporters of the Old Religion. In "The Once and Future King", it is Morgause who is Mordred's mother, and Morgana being his aunt could explain their connection.
  33. Trivia.Peeping Tom: Dora the prostitute is referenced in the Daily Mirror headlines as a "young girl". But Brenda Bruce was 40 during shooting. Helped by her being Older Than They Look.
  34. Creator.Jessica Parker Kennedy: Due to her short stature and very youthful appearance, she usually plays characters who are a decade younger than her.
  35. DuelingWorks.Film Drama: The Trial of the Chicago 7 (2020) / Judas and the Black Messiah (2021)
    • Capsule Pitch Description: Young radical leftist activists (played by much older actors) in late 1960s Chicago are targeted by the U.S. government; Illinois Black Panther chairman Fred Hampton features as a supporting character, and his murder by police and the impact it has on other activists are important to the plot.
  36. Trivia.Big Time Rush:
    • The guys are about 3-4 years older than the standard sophomore/junior high school age, as is Erin Sanders who plays Camille.
    • Surprisingly, Ciara Bravo who plays Katie was between the ages of 12-16 playing a character three years younger than herself. It's not an egregious example as Ciara looked the age of her character.
  37. Trivia.Charmed S 7 E 8 Charmed Noir: Bug Hall was nineteen playing the Magic School student Eddie Mullen. But since Paige's assistant in "Cheaper By the Coven" says he's twenty-one (and she refers to him as a student), it's possible Magic School has older students.
  38. YMMV.Grease: All the actors playing teenagers wouldn't even pass for college students, especially Stockard Channing (who was in high school in actual 1959).
  39. Series.Saved By The Bell 2020: Mocked in episode 4, where the seniors at Bayside are portrayed by senior citizens. Only Aisha seems to notice.

  40. Trivia.St Elsewhere:
    • Practically none of the actors playing the interns in the first season were as young as their characters were supposed to be (roughly 25-29). Terrence Knox was 36 in the first season, while Ed Begley, Jr. was 33, and David Morse was 29. Knox and Begley were actually older than Cynthia Sikes, who played senior Resident (later Attending) Dr. Cavanero, a character who was considered one of the longest-serving female doctors at the hospital.
    • Tom Hulce was 29 when he played John Doe #12 (David Stewart), who is about 16 or 17, in "Graveyard", "Release" and "Family History". Dr. Philip Chandler repeatedly refers to David as a kid. He is played by Denzel Washington, who is one year younger than Hulce.
    • Eric Stoltz was 21 or 22 when he played the 15-year-old Eddie Carson in "Under Pressure", "Entrapment" and "All About Eve".
    • The 22-year-old Lycia Naff played the 14-year-old Maddy Holmes in the Season Three episodes "Saving Face", "Give the Boy a Hand" and "Any Portrait in a Storm".
    • In the Flashback heavy episode of "Time Heals" it's laughably impossible to buy Ed Flanders and William Daniels as 25 year old intern versions of Westphall and Craig.
    • Robert Romanus was 29 when he played the teenager Nick Meose in the Season Four episode "The Naked and the Dead".
  41. Creator.Hayden Panettiere: Averted through most of her time on Heroes; inverted with Ice Princess (shot when she was 14; she plays a teenage skater in the same grade as 17-year-old Casey, who's played by then-18 Michelle Trachtenberg); not averted at all for Scream 4 or Until Dawn (or Kingdom Hearts by the time of Kingdom Hearts 3D [Dream Drop Distance]).
  42. WesternAnimation.Chicken Little: Chicken Little sounds much older than 12 years old, being voiced by 30-year-old Zach Braff. The same applies to Abby Mallard, who's 13 years old and looks it, but is given a much more mature-sounding voice by Joan Cusack.
  43. Trivia.Election: Reese Witherspoon and Chris Klein were 23 and 20 respectively when they starred in this film. Averted with most of the extras and minor student roles as it was filmed on location at a real high school. This was parodied in American Dad! episode "Smooshed: A Love Story", where Witherspoon poses as a student at Steve Smith's high school in order to convince people that she can pass as a high schooler and make a sequel to this film.

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Category: Not Tropeworthy

Enforced Trope has been part of Playing with a Trope for over a decade now, but that was recently questioned on this discussion page, and then moved to this trope talk, where it was more or less agreed that it's not really a Playing with a Trope. You see, all variations of a trope are purposely included in a work by the creator, but Enforced Trope is the opposite of that, because the creator was "forced" by someone or something to include it. On top of that, there is really no difference between a Enforced Trope and a trope played straight (more on this later), so a wick check was conducted to determine its status. Here are the results (Enforced Trope Wick Check):

Percentages (50/50)

  • Misuse = 44%
    • Forced by in-universe reasons = 24%
    • Forced by limited video game options = 16%
    • Examples Are Not Arguable = 2%
    • Real Life examples = 2%
  • Forced by out-of-universe reasons = 36%
  • Legitimacy unclear? = 16%
    • Chosen (but not forced) for out-of-universe reasons = 14%
    • ZCE, who knows = 2%
  • More than one case in a single wick = 4%

Analysis

There's a lot to cover, so let's break it down into three points. Point one: these tropes are just played straight. One thing that is universal in the sample is the focus on behind-the-scenes information, something that the Enforced Trope description mentions, meaning that all of these tropes are played straight, and it's the details that make it enforced. Not only does this make it more like Trivia, but any straight example of any trope can be a potential enforced example because we tend not to know what goes on behind the scenes of any work, so we cannot be sure that something isn't being enforced unless we're told. This is also the only Playing with a Trope that cannot be identified when interacting with the work and that cannot be easily reproduced in other works, due to different standards in countries, locations, media, etc.

Issues

  • 44% of examples are misused.
  • The definition is very broad, to the point where virtually anything could be called an Enforced Trope.
  • It is structurally Trivia and not Playing With due to it's relationship to out-of-universe.

Proposed solutions

  1. Turn it into a Trivia trope.
  2. Clarify the definition.
  3. Rename to create discontinuity and discourage people from using its old form. (Perhaps "Imposed Trope", or "Enforced Element"?)

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