this is a sandbox page to help assist in the Vtubers Cleanup Thread over on the forums, at least for the hololive page and its subpages.

for people who don't want to read the thread, here's the general guidelines from OP:

If there is not a clear separation between the character and the actor, we assume that it is the actor represented, and thus they are not tropable.
- In other words, it is up to the user writing the example to show that it pertains to the character and not the actor.
Regardless, the content they produce must meet our standards for Web Video, meaning substantial original and/or transformative material.
- A vlog, review, or Let's Play does not become tropable just because the person doing it has an anime avatar.

More details here.

i started this page, the least i could do is help fix it, or at least help you guys get started in fixing it.

any additional thoughts about a particular bullet point are in red text.

~Freecom

a markup snippet for the folders i use in the pages below, if anyone wants to recycle it for themselves:

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[[folder:Probably okay (lore, character design, scripted content)]] 
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cuts listed here are done, save for tropes that have their own subpages

Blatantly obvious real life troping

Amazingly Embarrassing Parents: Many members have shared stories of their parents' embarrassing behavior from before they joined, but along with being open minded with their line of work, they are sometimes featured as guests on their streams. They will then waste no time teasing their children, either by adopting their catch phrases or telling unflattering childhood stories.
Dark and Troubled Past: While not true for all of them, many of the talent went through a lot of professional or personal hardship before joining the organization. A lot of them directly state how hololive helped "save" them from a life of unfulfilled dreams and gave them the inspiration to continue with content creation when they were on the verge of quitting.
Open-Minded Parent: As it happens, this is the case for many members, who were initially hesitant to let their parents know of their occupation, but were then floored when said parents turned out to be major fans (e.g. Miko, Pekora, Kiara, etc...). Subaru in particular was quite open about her job to her parents from the get-go, who tend to be so proud of her accomplishments that it puts her on the spot whenever she is mentioned on TV or in advertisements.
Shout-Out:
- Fauna's cats, Clover and Snail, are named in reference to the Zero Escape series which she implicitly confirms in a Twitter convo with creator Kotaro Uchikoshi.
Unperson: to date, there hasn't been an in-universe justification for a hololive graduation ever (edit: apparently Coco and Sana do)

Stream-only shenanigans, stuff not explicitly about an avatar or their lore, misc. things of that nature (prepare yourselves, this is like 90% of the page)

The Ace: Hololive Indonesia when it comes to Minecraft, the sheer size and scale of their builds, the intricate details, and high level technology are all on a whole other level from every other branch. In fact, visiting their server gave Hakos Baelz a case of Trauma-Induced Amnesia upon realizing that Kaela Kovalskia alone, who had been with ID only a few months by then, already had over thirty elytras and was giving them away for free. For comparison, EN at the time had a grand total of less than five, distributed across eleven idols, with Ame and Gura even having to share one, though thanks to Kaela that has changed.
Ascended Meme: Has its own page here.
Censored for Comedy: Any time one of the talents (particuarly the English-speaking ones) invokes a Sound-Effect Bleep function, you can expect it to be abused or misused for laughs. will be cut if nothing more than a general example
Comedic Sociopathy: Some of the girls can be a bit out there. It's often played for humor whenever they play games, they tend to be sadistic whether it's playing a game solo or in groups. probably the only exception is the Calli bullet point
Creator Backlash: Played for Laughs in-universe. Some of the girls who manages to make it big will sometimes watch their debut streams, and will cringe on how they used to be before their current personality. Matsuri in particular is just as confused as her audience on what kind of character she used to be before her current personality. should be moved to trivia
Early-Installment Weirdness: basically everything under this bullet point as it's about early stream nerves or real-life circumstances. the only tropeworthy points would be about early 3D models and originally broadcasting on Nico Video (which would be Channel Hop)
Elite Four: In Hololive JP's Minecraft server, Miko has hired four of the other idols: Flare, Kanata, Polka and Botan, to be her Four Heavenly Kings. Thus far, they've slain the Elder Dragon and given Sora a tour of The End. However, Botan didn't officially join the Four Heavenly Kings, so the fourth slot is given to Watame instead.
Funny Background Event: Frequently occurs in Minecraft streams, as many of the girls also like to play in their own free time and so may end up accidentally caught on the streams of others. Cue things like Gura and Baelz casually building and chatting about food on-stream while messages in the chat from Mumei and Kronii detail their own off-stream adventure slowly derailing into a Trauma Conga Line. Moona and Kronii have had this happen to them so many times due to them constantly playing that they’ve been dubbed "the NPCs of Hololive" by fans.
Fun with Acronyms: A few sets of members get acronyms based on who's involved. pretty much everything under this bullet point are stream group names the talents themselves came up with. the only arguably valid ones are FAMS, SMOK, and Chad Cast, which are used on the official channel in scripted content
Gadgeteer Genius: This appears to be the hat of the Indonesian branch in Minecraft, creating buildings and mechanisms on a whole other level than the rest of the server.
Gratuitous English:
- "Boing-boing", which is used when a talents' buxom is brought up, both when they're ample and when they're not. This is most notable in non-English clip channels, where a comment typed out in a foreign language may still type out "boing boing" in English.
- Since the debut of Hololive English, a lot of the Japanese members have made strides in learning English to better communicate with their ever-growing foreign fanbase. This does often result in them attempting to use English during their streams, to varying degrees of success (Haachama is basically conversational due to her years studying abroad, while Miko...must be heard to be believed).
Gratuitous Japanese: Lots of Japanese lingo, both from Japanese VTuber/general idol culture and particular verbal ticks of specific characters, is a mainstay of the fans' vocabulary, such as oshi, DD (short "daredemo daisuki", fan with no dedication to specific stars) and so on.
Homoerotic Subtext: The vtuber's of hololive tend to flirt with each other a lot. It can range from innocent compliments on each others looks to full on sexual innuendo.
I Ate WHAT?!: Non-verbal example, where Gura had a gross-out moment after drinking the milk from Ame's vending machine and reading the sign on the side that implies what she drank came from Ina.
I Hate Past Me: for the same reasons as Early-Installment Weirdness, just specific to early stream reaction Cringe Comedy
Innocent Swearing: pretty much all of it is stream-related
Insistent Terminology: Viewers supporting more than one idol, either by watching their streams or being a member of their channel, has been called cheating which cause the idols to joke they're offended.
Intentional Engrish for Funny: On occasion, Coco's viewers will intentionally post badly mangled mixtures of English and Japanese because they know it annoys her.
Irony: Despite being an Idol Singer group, and to their credit they are talented vocalists, hololive/holostars do many, many things that idols are not supposed/expected to do. This includes, but definitely is not limited to: Streaming drunk, casually talking about sexual matters, asking each other about their panties, trolling each other, and so on and so forth.
Is This Thing Still On?: Position inverted, as this usually happens during the pre-stream period instead of at the end. On occasion, certain members will be having their mic on during the lead-in to the stream starting and inadvertently broadcasting out loud whatever goofy or embarrassing tidbits about themselves to the entire waiting audience. Did I Just Say That Out Loud? usually ensues, followed by memes being made out of their blunders.
Just One More Level!: Common enough, but Fall Guys: Ultimate Knockout in particular causes the talents to declare "Last game" and queue up for another round over and over again. It turned into a meme for Watame because she did it so much.
The Klutz: Certain members are known for their clumsiness, which adds to their charm, such as Miko or Nene, who tend to flunk at important moments that contribute to their unintentionally superb comedic timing. The fandom at large even has a term to refer to their klutzy moments, "Pon", which is short for "ponkotsu", meaning "useless".
Lame Pun Reaction: Ina is a Pungeon Master, and as such the chat has adopted "INAFF" as a punny version of "Enough", telling her to knock off the bad puns. This has since extended to any hololive member who tries to make a bad joke.
Lensman Arms Race: Several of the members were involved in a thankfully peaceful (so far) variant of this in the JP Minecraft server: basically all the subpoints in here count
Loophole Abuse: New talents are given a 1-month moratorium on collaboration streams with talents outside their own generation while they get settled in. However, if the new talent just happens to be playing a multi-player game (primarily Minecraft) on the same server at the same time as another talent while streaming solo, they can interact on-stream with their colleagues and management seems to turn a blind eye because they're technically not collaborating.
Mass "Oh, Crap!": The moment Sora innocently uttered "Motherfucker" on Coco's weekly Reddit shitpost review is the moment Coco, the chat and (probably) the staff started panicking, with everyone jokingly declaring YAGOO's dream as officially dead. depends if Coco's shitpost reviews are tropeworthy
Medal of Dishonor: Kanata is the reigning champion of oversleeping in Hololive, having been lost to dreamland for five hours and two minutes past a scheduled stream.
The Night Owl: As streaming in the evening makes streams accessible to more users, and many of the streams can last hours, it is common for the vtubers to stream until the early hours of the morning and sleep all day to do it all again. basically everything under this bullet point
Only Sane Man: ditto
Out-of-Genre Experience: Minecraft is normally a building and survival/fantasy adventure game, but IRyS' September 27th 2021 stream briefly turned into basically a mafia drama. Gura gave IRyS and Kronii a hot tip for an (XP-)lucrative job (quartz farming), but then went ahead and demanded a cut since she is their superior in the organization (senpai tax). Cue the two girls lying to her and claiming they found nothing, then growing increasingly paranoid and speaking in code phrases as they tried to secretly stash away the goods for their own use. Gura saw through the deception, forcing them on the run/into hiding, and used her contacts to enlist support (Ina) in order to track them down (via stream sniping), driving them mad with terror and scare tactics (thanks to invisibility potions and ominous chat messages) and repeatedly opening (trident) fire on them, until she eventually successfully caught up to them and delivered to IRyS a final shot to the head as retribution for trying to cut her out of the deal.
Paper Tiger: There have been instances of flirtatious members getting easily flustered when their advances actually get responses. (e.g. Matsuri, Ollie) These are also known to the fandom as "Glass Cannon flirts".
The Pirates Who Don't Do Anything: Despite many of the cast members having rather colorful character backgrounds with clearly defined jobs, they never seem to actually do these jobs, ever, outside of throwaway skits and gags. This includes a Necromancer who (mostly) never resurrects the dead, a literal Pirate who never partakes in any piracy (or even have a ship for that matter), a Grim Reaper who never kills anyone, a knight who never fights monsters, and more. is apparently written into scrited content, so might be okay
Pseudo-Romantic Friendship: Several. Unsurprising, given the Improbably Female Cast. pretty much everything under this point
Running Gag: Has its own page here.
Say My Name: In the Among Us games, it's common for the hololive members to scream someone's name depending on the situation. The viewers on the live chat usually follow suit: the whole bullet point
School Festival: Mio and Miko hosted a sports festival in Minecraft on November 21st, 2020 featuring almost every member of the main branch up to 5th Gen ^note along with holoID and Sora as a guest team. The event lasted around 5 1/2 hours with perspectives from Miko and the team captains Pekora, Haato, Aqua, and Fubuki. depends if these events count as tropeworthy content (leaning no due to being within the confines of streams)
Schizo Tech: Joking about this being the case for the joint hololive Minecraft server is a common Running Gag among the EN girls and their fanbases. Built up over several years by dozens of idols, the JP part is a sprawling, vaguely futuristic metropolis, filled with modern-style architecture and buildings and many technological conveniences like automatic lights. Meanwhile, the relatively new EN section resembles more a feudal hamlet with the occasional bit of crude, industrial era-type machinery. Calliope Mori in particular is prone to stressing that she often feels like a cavewoman living next to aliens from the future. Upon visiting the ID server, Ina had pretty much the same experience. A couple of days following Ina's visit, Mumei and Baelz did the same, with the latter basically turning into a depressed zombie upon seeing Moona's colossal storage vault complete with automatic item sorting, later once again using the caveman analogy.
Shout-Out:
- Although this example wasn't originally canon, one of Haato/Haachama's more popular facial expressions◊ is actually based on a frame from the yuri eroge A Kiss for the Petals. is it not tropeworthy if it's not an intentional shout out?
Spotlight-Stealing Squad: For western audiences, this happened with Miko, Matsuri, Korone, and Fubuki. Various stream highlights invokedwent viral, spiking their subscriber counts and setting them up for long term success. The Hololive English generation have had a gigantic amount of success in a very short amount of time, with Gawr Gura breaking 500,000 subscribers and the other 4 reaching near or above 250,000 subs within 2 weeks of their debut streams, which is faster than the still very successful debut of the Japanese 5th generation.
Squee: A common reaction of any Hololive Vtuber whenever their streams has been noticed by or had contact with a fellow Vtuber from earlier generation that they have been a fan of before becoming Vtuber themselves.
Summoning Ritual: Played for Laughs by some of the streamers, who have noticed that certain phrases and actions get a reaction out of foreign viewers who are otherwise lurking in the chat. They have described this as "summoning foreign viewers".
Tangled Family Tree: The talents play around with shipping and relationships a lot. Trying to draw out a relationship chart will result in a very complex web. Bae and Ollie tried to do so during Crunchyroll Expo 2022, and the result is as messy as you expect — and it's only for their parts of the tree!
Third-Person Person: A commonality among many of the Japanese talents, who typically refer to themselves by their names or nicknames instead of the first-person pronoun, so much so that on the occasions that they do use watashi or the like, the chat will be quick to point it out. It doesn't extend to holostars, though, and the idols of the international branches usually address themselves normally for the most part. will be cut if it has no specific examples
Token Evil Teammate: Suisei gets shunted into this role after an infamous and disastrous event in Project Winter where she killed 5 people all at once. It gotten pretty bad that everyone else who experienced her infamous brutality first hand that they would stay away from her, even if she is a fellow Survivor or in a team-based game.
Token Good Teammate: Any girl who plays with Suisei in Project Winter will be play this role if they are co-Traitors with her. While Suisei's partners will at least be apologetic about it, Suisei, not so subtly, enjoys inflicting pain on and toying with her friends each time they play. This got so bad, it gave Matsuri PTSD, and other girls are extremely wary of her deciding to run the game objectives her way as a Survivor.
Trolling Translator: Many of the streamers like to communicate with their foreign audiences but aren't fluent in English, which occasionally leads to them asking their chat for help with translation. The advice given by the chat isn't always in good faith.
Workaholic: The Hololive talents are all very dedicated to their craft, sometimes to such degrees that can land them in the hospital. Their managers usually have to beg, cajole, threaten or even outright ban them from streaming in an effort to get them to rest.
Xanatos Gambit: Sometimes during multiplayer collaborations, the girls will try to manipulate each other in order to win the game they're playing. Some more sneaky about it than others. Suisei's Project Winter collaboration with her friends? She was banking on it.

Not really sure

Ascended Memes that are in clearly fictionalized spin-offs

are memes tropeworthy if the highest higher-ups acknowledge them and write them into their "character"?

Biting-the-Hand Humor: Plenty of jokes are made not only towards YouTube, but also to Cover Corp and specifically YAGOO.
Flanderization: Gura in the UMISEA shorts is always dropping an "a" like it's a Verbal Tic, when in reality she's barely done it since her debut. Justified, since that trait of hers is far more popular among the Japanese fanbase and was likely written in specifically to appeal to them. Ascended Meme that crept into official works

Character design/technical aspects of the avatars

Jaw Drop: Due to the limitations of Live2D at the time of writing, a given talent's virtual avatar is only capable of rather simplistic facial movements, such as blinking or passably emulating emotions. Full lip-syncing is not a thing yet, so most of the time, their character models will just sit there with their mouths hanging open, if they're not smiling or frowning. This happens a bit less on 3D model streams, but it still has its moments. honestly just plain not really sure if tech-related stuff is tropeworthy
Jiggle Physics: For most of the well endowed characters, particularly those with exposed skin. So common even the talents refer to it as having "Boing Boing". Played with in the case of Polka, whose chest doesn't jiggle as much due to her form-fitting outfit, but it's her thighs that do most of the wobbling whenever she moves...though this is played straight in her 2.0 2D model. see above
Modesty Shorts: Initially averted as early 3D models had detailed panties on characters with skirts. But as YouTube began cracking down on explicit content, all the models would replace the panties with black spats. is character design stuff like this tropeworthy?
The Noseless: There are a few characters, like Coco and Aki, whose nose is very small even by anime art style standards and is incredibly hard to see on their model. Their audiences jokingly make a big deal out of a "nose reveal" when their models receive an update to make it clearer. see above
Tamer and Chaster: Some of the girls' official artists actually drew fan art Hentai. For the girls themselves, they keep it very low-key and try not to heavily sexualize the talents they are artists of. Aqua in particular requests her artist to downlow her chest after she complains about her chest getting bigger.
Your Size May Vary: Since the 3D models are based on a combination of the character's artwork and the performer's real body, their heights may not be consistent canon. For example, Kanata's 3D model is noticeably taller than Watame's despite Watame being 2 cm taller, while Mio towers over nearly everyone despite officially being 155 cm tall (at least until the official site changed it to 165 cm with heels and discounting her wolf ears).

Other

Roger Rabbit Effect: Not on hololive's own official platforms, but the talents will occassionally appear next to live actors in Special Guest or Dualvertisement promotions on other channels. is any of this tropeworthy if they're all "vtuber appears next to real people in promotional livestream"?
Show Within a Show: Inception-ish "streams about streams", not sure if fictionalized enough
Voice Clip Song: Due to how many moments from the streams get clipped individually, many songs were made using things the girls have said or done as the basis for various songs. ditto

Characters/hololive's subpages

Character subpage sandboxes

Tear Jerker

Ever wondered why this trope is under Too Common in NRLEP?

Practically every example is meta or a reaction, and there's too many to list. It's easier to list what is applicable: Rio and Mumei's backstories. Marine's shorts may count, but we're not sure. Otherwise, all of the other bullets are specifically one of the following:

A talent reacts to something sad. Bonus points if it's also a "too soon" moment also affected by real life.
A talent experiences something sad in real life.
A talent gets sick or injured. It should be worth noting that "actors are vulnerable/mortal" is (unfortunately) not even tropeworthy per Harsher in Hindsight.
Fan stuff, which does not belong on a work's moments page.
Departures and firings. The Moments cleanup has stated that the actual decisions count as meta, and I would imagine most reactions also count since they're not scripted. The only prearranged address ever given (which the cleanup said might be applicable for moments) is Gen 3's response to Rushia's termination; everything else is spur-of-the-moment and basically behind-the-scenes talk. Might need further discussion given the Moments cleanup's own talks on the matter.

YMMV

Questionable applicability

Ensemble Dark Horse: Olivia and Omega aside, are real people outside the realm of Kayfabe even applicable for these kinds of tropes?
Harsher in Hindsight: While "character suffers [x], then so does the actor" is a valid case of this trope, the Luna and Kiara examples are more "actor suffers [x] live, then it gets worse offscreen." Seems a bit grey; maybe review a bit in the thread. The other examples in this trope seem to be okay.
Just Here for Godzilla: On one hand, watching a group just for one of its members would definitely be this trope. On the other hand, everyone does have their own platforms, meaning tuning into just one might not 100% be a valid example.
Moe: The avatars certainly play a part, but a lot of what's made the talents "cute" to their audience comes from their real personalities, or at least antics we can't make out to be acting. Does that still count?

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