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Arend Since: Aug, 2012
Dec 17th 2022 at 5:45:02 AM •••

Do we (still) have a YMMV variant of this trope? Like, say, an Audience Reaction that finds the name of a character or subject comparable to something else, unintended by the creators.

I get that this trope used to also list YMMV examples alongside in-universe ones, but now that it only lists in-universe examples, I can't really find a YMMV equivalent. What makes this even more confusing is the fact that Unfortunate Character Design lists this trope under its "See also" section with the description " (a character's name sounds wrong unintentionally)", yet the current version of this trope seems to imply the exact opposite, saying that "the name's misfortune must be pointed out within the work."

DoktorvonEurotrash Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk Since: Jan, 2001
Welcome, traveller, welcome to Omsk
Jun 19th 2010 at 1:34:50 PM •••

Doktor von Eurotrash: Removed this from the Dean Koontz example under Literature:

  • Especially funny in that both 'Punchinello' and 'Beezo' are names of obscure Mario enemies, and Punchinello does happen to be vaguely clown-ish.

Because "Punchinello" is a much older name for a clown character, going back to the Pulcinella character of Commedia dell'Arte. Added a parenthesis to the original entry explaining that.

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definitelynotatroper Since: Jul, 2015
Aug 4th 2019 at 6:03:30 PM •••

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AgProv Since: Jul, 2011
Nov 19th 2022 at 4:49:37 AM •••

Trope-surfing brought up the Japanese cartoon book/animation with thew unbelievable name of https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Manga/AiShiteNight. It probably means something different in Japanese, but an animation with a title like "A Shite Night" isn't going to fly very far in Britain. just wondering what box to put it in or if it belongs here at all? (While it screened in France, where the "shite" thing would not be remarked upon in the land of "merde", no indication any British tv channel picked it up, in which case they'd almost certainly have insisted on a rename).

Male, early sixties, Cranky old fart, at least two decades behind. So you have been warned. Functionally illiterate in several languages.
Berrenta MOD How sweet it is Since: Apr, 2015
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Mar 26th 2020 at 10:03:49 AM •••

Would "Corona" fit here, because of how many people associate that word with the virus now?

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Kindle4Light Since: Oct, 2011
Mar 28th 2020 at 1:11:35 AM •••

Sounds like an audience reaction to me. Should it count?

definitelynotatroper princess Since: Jul, 2015
princess
Aug 4th 2019 at 6:04:43 PM •••

I don't see why no real liife examples would be a problem; isn't A Nthony Weiner the epitome of this rea life trope?

l1t382 Since: Jul, 2011
Nov 11th 2017 at 1:22:19 PM •••

"Palpatine" in the Star Wars section is actually worse than his first name if you understand Italian (Palpatine means "Light gropings"). Is there a trope when a name has an unfortunate implication in another language?

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robertfm Since: Dec, 1969
Sep 11th 2010 at 10:40:23 PM •••

Removed this from Literature:

  • Subjectively we also have the names of the children in the epilogue, whose name just consist of other characters' names stringed together at almost random. Albus Severus Potter?

Ignoring the errors ("name" should be "names" and "stringed" refers to an instrument — the correct word here is "strung"), this is clearly not an example; in the epilogue Harry actually tells Albus that he was named after two Hogwarts Headmasters, and the other names are evidently also of this sort — nothing "unfortunate" about them. This is quite common practice in Real Life; one biography of master clockmaker John Harrison said that many of his ancestors were also John, and that he called his son John.

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robertfm Since: Dec, 1969
Sep 11th 2010 at 10:55:08 PM •••

Having just checked the archived discussion, I see that "Albus Severus Potter" has already been deleted at least once before. Presumably it gets posted by someone who is too dumb to just doesn't get the "name your kids after relatives or people you admire" convention mentioned above.

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Vilui Since: May, 2009
Nov 28th 2010 at 6:25:55 PM •••

Regardless of convention, it's unfortunate because J. K. Rowling just doesn't get the concept of euphony. (Seriously, "Ginny Molly Weasley"?) But such examples are too subjective for this page, of course.

korax1214 Since: Jul, 2009
Dec 15th 2010 at 3:13:46 PM •••

"Ginny" is a nickname — her real name is actually "Ginevra", although she's almost never known as that. The archived discussion erroneously states this name to be the Italian equivalent of "Guinevere"; it's actually the French equivalent of "Jennifer" (and the French for "juniper", hence the '60s song).

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corruptmalemenace Since: Apr, 2010
May 30th 2013 at 11:42:25 AM •••

One could argue that "Albus Severus Potter" could be considered 'unfortunate' because the poor kid is definitely going to be bullied for having a stupid-sounding and unusual name. Whether the fact that there's a REASON for having a stupid name makes up for it, I cannot say.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
May 30th 2013 at 11:54:52 AM •••

Just because there's a reason for a name doesn't make it not stupid. Now, I don't think the name is an example in the Harry Potter world, which seems to have its own nonsensical naming conventions, but just because you're named after someone doesn't make the name not unfortunate.

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Dere Since: Feb, 2010
Aug 3rd 2016 at 1:33:05 PM •••

Indeed. That there's an in-universe reasoning behind ridiculous names doesn't make them any less unfortunate. I added the example back.

Nigel Since: Aug, 2012
Dec 17th 2015 at 6:43:20 AM •••

More or less as an aside, Admiral Cockburn's name is pronounced "Coburn", like the actor James Coburn.

MagBas MagBas Since: Jun, 2009
MagBas
Feb 22nd 2014 at 7:24:22 AM •••

I am guessing in nominate Unfortunate Names to the crowner in the "pages that need the ymmv banner" thread in "long time/perpetual". Their first paragraph is "An Unfortunate Implication where a name of a character, person, or thing unintentionally offends." Unfortunate Implication is ymmv.

NoriMori Since: Jan, 2011
Jan 19th 2014 at 6:47:22 PM •••

Description says this trope only applies to someone's "legal given name". What about surnames? They can be unfortunate too. Like "Puķe", a Latvian surname that means "flower" but resembles an English word for something rather more foul-smelling.

CabbitGirlEmi The Dream Soldier Since: Feb, 2010
The Dream Soldier
Nov 25th 2013 at 4:20:52 PM •••

Can this be applied to advertisements?

Statalyzer The Keenest Of Them All Since: Jul, 2009
The Keenest Of Them All
Dec 31st 2012 at 6:21:37 PM •••

Why is there no film tab here?

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Azaram Smiter of Typeaux Since: Jan, 2001
Smiter of Typeaux
Oct 17th 2012 at 7:07:59 PM •••

Removed: "•In a dub episode for the 2003 Astro Boy series, there's a guy named Boris Alucard. Eenie meenie mynie mo, catch a bad guy by the toe..."

It's a Sdrawckab Name, yeah, but not exactly unfortunate. And the rhyme after makes no sense.

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captainsandwich Since: Jan, 2012
Jun 1st 2012 at 2:23:27 AM •••

Can we do inverse examples that aren't characters? Because in Futurama "astronomers renamed Uranus in 2620 to end that stupid joke once and for all". the new name is Urectum

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Telcontar MOD Since: Feb, 2012
Jun 1st 2012 at 4:56:25 AM •••

That definitely fits under this trope; there are many examples that aren't people, and that's a wonderful example of a double subversion (I think!).

That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
kclantern1984 Child of the night. Since: Sep, 2011
Child of the night.
Sep 22nd 2011 at 7:38:03 AM •••

I realise I am not famous enough to be listed in the main page, but I have to tell how much of a smart ass my mom was. She named me Kasey Christopher. Honestly, that is my first and middle names (I won't list my last for identity security reasons). I have to spend my whole life correcting people when they write my name, since everyone wants to spell it "Casey". My mom thought she was being cute.

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montmorencey Since: Aug, 2011
Oct 9th 2011 at 4:07:09 AM •••

My name (pronounced Yeh-vah) sounds like a very famous brand of beer(at least it is in Germany). Everybody keeps spelling me like the beer and usually they still get it wrong somehow after I correct them. And don't get me started on the jokes I have been hearing since I was too young to even know what beer is. These days, I've turned it into a catchphrase. If I can't get rid of it, I can at least take advantage of it. So far, nobody ever forgot my name when I intruduced myself with the beer-slogan.

Complicated - because simple is simply too simple.
robertfm Since: Dec, 1969
Sep 8th 2010 at 12:22:08 AM •••

Just removed the following from Music:

  • "Roxanne, you don't have to put on the red light..."-Sting.

How is "Roxanne" supposed to be an example of this trope, in this context or any other?

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