Discussion Main / OffModel

Now a Definition-Only Page per TRS:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16711577380.46113700&page=1#comment-23

Does it count if they accidentally draw the same character into a scene twice?

I'm talking a Simpsons episode where they have Ralph appear twice in one scene rather than an unnamed background character if that makes a difference.

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Is this really a trope?, started by Ultimatum on Jan 20th 2012 at 10:12:09 PM

Alright, I think it's about time we did something about that horribly vague description of this trope/factoid (I'm not sure if this relates to storytelling at all). I've written up a first draft, and run it through the Trope Description Improvement Drive topic on the forums, and gotten one piece of feedback there, but since I'm unfamiliar with the trope, I think I should post here before any changes are made.

The current version fails to describe what the trope is about in a direct manner, fails to define "on model", gives a lot of weight to one particular animator, spends several paragraphs complaining about particular studios, and is by and large written for people who already know what the term means. Here is my proposed rewrite:

I would appreciate some feedback on this.

Why did the picture change from headless naruto? That was really simple and obvious to me and I liked it.

So... What's this trope about? I've read and reread it many times and as far as I can tell it refers to either deviating from a template or relying too much on one - thus creating inconsistencies - in animation, but the closest thing to a concise definition is halfway through the third or fourth paragraph, and even then it's a quite vague one.

Could someone who knows more about this concept rephrase the article a bit?

Am I the only one that notices every 6teen episode has the same off-model error? There's always one shot where the spot on Nikki's shirt is black instead of green. AND THEY NEVER FIXED IT

It's too bad Troper Tales is dead, because I got to see the inside of an overseas animation studio (that did grunt work for Disney) and witness this trope in action, somewhat. Mickey Mouse has a very specific look that is difficult to pull off in 3D, so tacked on every wall in the studio were piles and piles of reference pictures, as well as instances where Mickey's ears and/or eyes were not quite in the right place. One hopes that this was fixed eventually, but keep your eyes open while watching Mickey Mouse Clubhouse; you may catch something that the animators forgot to fix!

Okay, I'll bite. What is wrong with the Yugioh 5DS example? I got nothing.

Since this is an animation trope, wouldn't it make more sense to move the Live Action and Documentary sections to Special Effects Failure? After all, a human character can't really be Off-Model, and mistakes in CGI are more suited to the former trope.

"Kaiba: Most of the show's animation is done in Korea by DR Movie (Godzilla: The Series, Justice League, Trigun); however most the animation is so bad it makes AKOM at it's worst, look like Rough Draft. The worst part of this is that DR Movie has done much better work than this." normally I'd just remove this, but I'm curious - why in the world would anyone say this? could anyone give a reason why someone would list one of the most commonly-agreed-to-be-beautifully-animated anime shows here?

"This You Chew Poop topic is determined to find all examples of this. It's got nearly 180 pages (using the default post-per-page setting). "

The thread linked to under this passage no longer properly works. I'm not sure if the original thread is on the You Chew Poop forums anymore or if it got deleted. If it's still around, can someone fix the link?

While I understand that the image does in fact fit the trope, does anyone else think it would be better if we used that part from the So Bad Its Horrible Pound Puppies movie where that one dog's nose disappears whil he's talking?

would it be okay if we removed the picture used for this article and replaced it with something more fitting, seeing as it's taken from an amazingly animated fight that looks great in motion?

Should I post some Pokemon-centric things in the Images section? Or videos? Because the episode where Grotle evolved was horrible in animation. And the later episodes will invariable have a character in a close-up have a pointy right side of their face, and a deflated left side.

Can we please replace that picture with a more fitting one? That was a beautifully animated, squash & stretch-heavy sequence and that particular frame actually fit its overall style.

• In Season 1's Home Sweet Pineapple and I Was a Teenage Gary, there are specific scenes where Squidward is drawn with anatomy rivaling that of Pikaman.

Flat. What.

• Well, Smithers was initially designed to be black. Similarly, Lou of the Police Force was Caucasian, and Chief Wiggum had black hair instead of blue. They pretty much swapped Smithers' and Lou's ethnicity.

Umm, I do know that Chief Wiggum and Barney's hair was intentional, and that Lou was white for much of the first season, but what???? Since when was Smithers intentionally designed as black? I've heard from numerous places that that was a miscommunication with the animators.