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Leto II\'s plan is to introduce the idea to humans never to put their trust in one charismatic, ostensibly all-powerful leader, which means he\'s actively working against himself and the creation or promotion of anyone else like himself. Maybe it\'s another \
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Leto II\\\'s plan is to introduce the idea to humans never to put their trust in one charismatic, ostensibly all-powerful leader, which means he\\\'s actively working against himself and the creation or promotion of anyone else like himself. Maybe it\\\'s another \\\"unfortunate implication\\\" that tyranny can lead to the putting down of tyranny, but once again I don\\\'t think the actual value that Herbert was trying to get across was as simple as \\\"decadent societies are bad\\\" or \\\"Big Government is bad.\\\"

And as for the second point, once again, the situation is far more complicated than \\\"Dune\\\'s society is bad because decadence is bad.\\\" It also had a rigid class structure where the rich preyed on the weak, and that was portrayed as a bad thing. I don\\\'t think that could reasonably be argued as values dissonance, but it\\\'s a major element of the story that Herbert was trying to tell about the state of the universe.
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Leto II\'s plan is to introduce the idea to humans never to put their trust in one charismatic, ostensibly all-powerful leader, which means he\'s actively working against himself and the creation of anyone else like himself. Maybe it\'s another \
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Leto II\\\'s plan is to introduce the idea to humans never to put their trust in one charismatic, ostensibly all-powerful leader, which means he\\\'s actively working against himself and the creation or promotion of anyone else like himself. Maybe it\\\'s another \\\"unfortunate implication\\\" that tyranny can lead to the putting down of tyranny, but once again I don\\\'t think the actual value that Herbert was trying to get across was as simple as \\\"decadent societies are bad\\\" or \\\"Big Government is bad.\\\"

And as for the second point, once again, the situation is far more complicated than \\\"Dune\\\'s society was bad because decadence is bad.\\\" It also had a rigid class structure where the rich preyed on the weak, and that was portrayed as a bad thing. I don\\\'t think that could reasonably be argued as values dissonance, but it\\\'s a major element of the story that Herbert was trying to tell about the state of the universe.
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Leto II\'s plan is to introduce the idea to humans never to put their trust in one charismatic, ostensibly all-powerful leader, which means he\'s actively working against himself and the creation of anyone else like himself. Maybe it\'s another \
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Leto II\\\'s plan is to introduce the idea to humans never to put their trust in one charismatic, ostensibly all-powerful leader, which means he\\\'s actively working against himself and the creation of anyone else like himself. Maybe it\\\'s another \\\"unfortunate implication\\\" that tyranny can lead to the putting down of tyranny, but once again I don\\\'t think the actual value that Herbert was trying to get across was as simple as \\\"decadent societies are bad\\\" or \\\"Big Government is bad.\\\"

And as for the second point, once again, the situation is far more complicated than \\\"Dune\\\'s society was bad because decadence is bad.\\\" It also had a rigid class structure where the rich preyed on the weak, and that was portrayed as a bad thing. I don\\\'t think that could reasonably be argued as values dissonance, but it\\\'s a major element of the story that Herbert was trying to tell about the state of the universe.
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Leto II\'s plan is to introduce the idea to humans never to put their trust in one charismatic, ostensibly all-powerful leader, which means he\'s actively working against himself and the creation of anyone else like himself. Maybe it\'s another \
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Leto II\\\'s plan is to introduce the idea to humans never to put their trust in one charismatic, ostensibly all-powerful leader, which means he\\\'s actively working against himself and the creation of anyone else like himself. Maybe it\\\'s another \\\"unfortunate implication\\\" that tyranny can lead to the putting down of tyranny, but once again I don\\\'t think the actual value that Herbert was trying to get across was as simple as \\\"societies are bad when they\\\'re decadent\\\" or \\\"Big Government is bad.\\\"

And as for the second point, once again, the situation is far more complicated than \\\"Dune\\\'s society was bad because decadence is bad.\\\" It also had a rigid class structure where the rich preyed on the weak, and that was portrayed as a bad thing. I don\\\'t think that could reasonably be argued as values dissonance, but it\\\'s a major element of the story that Herbert was trying to tell about the state of the universe.
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Leto II\'s plan is to introduce the idea to humans never to put their trust in one charismatic, ostensibly all-powerful leader, which means he\'s actively working against himself and the creation of anyone else like himself. Maybe it\'s another \
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Leto II\\\'s plan is to introduce the idea to humans never to put their trust in one charismatic, ostensibly all-powerful leader, which means he\\\'s actively working against himself and the creation of anyone else like himself. Maybe it\\\'s another \\\"unfortunate implication\\\" that tyranny can lead to the putting down of tyranny, but once again I don\\\'t think the actual value that Herbert was trying to get across was as simple as \\\"societies are bad when they\\\'re decadent\\\" and \\\"Big Government is bad.\\\"

And as for the second point, once again, the situation is far more complicated than \\\"Dune\\\'s society was bad because decadence is bad.\\\" It also had a rigid class structure where the rich preyed on the weak, and that was portrayed as a bad thing. I don\\\'t think that could reasonably be argued as values dissonance, but it\\\'s a major element of the story that Herbert was trying to tell about the state of the universe.
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Leto II\'s plan is to introduce the idea to humans never to put their trust in one charismatic, ostensibly all-powerful leader, which means he\'s actively working against himself and the creation of anyone else like himself. Maybe it\'s another \
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Leto II\\\'s plan is to introduce the idea to humans never to put their trust in one charismatic, ostensibly all-powerful leader, which means he\\\'s actively working against himself and the creation of anyone else like himself. Maybe it\\\'s another \\\"unfortunate implication\\\" that tyranny can lead to the putting down of tyranny, but once again I don\\\'t think the actual value that Herbert was trying to get across was as simple as \\\"societies are bad when they\\\'re decadent\\\" and \\\"Big Government is bad.\\\"

And as for the second point, once again, the situation is far more complicated than \\\"Dune\\\'s society was bad because decadence is bad.\\\" It also had a rigid class structure where the rich preyed on the weak, and that was portrayed as bad. I don\\\'t think that could reasonably be argued as values dissonance, but it\\\'s a major element of the story that Herbert was trying to tell about the state of the universe.
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Leto II\'s plan is to introduce the idea to humans never to put their trust in one charismatic, ostensibly all-powerful leader, which means he\'s actively working against himself and the creation of anyone else like himself. Maybe it\'s another \
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Leto II\\\'s plan is to introduce the idea to humans never to put their trust in one charismatic, ostensibly all-powerful leader, which means he\\\'s actively working against himself and the creation of anyone else like himself. Maybe it\\\'s another \\\"unfortunate implication\\\" that tyranny can lead to the putting down of tyranny, but once again I don\\\'t think the actual value that Herbert was trying to get across was as simple as \\\"societies are bad when they\\\'re decadent.\\\"

And as for the second point, once again, the situation is far more complicated than \\\"Dune\\\'s society was bad because decadence is bad.\\\" It also had a rigid class structure where the rich preyed on the weak, and that was portrayed as bad. I don\\\'t think that could reasonably be argued as values dissonance, but it\\\'s a major element of the story that Herbert was trying to tell about the state of the universe.
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Leto II\'s plan is to introduce the idea to humans never to put their trust in one charismatic, ostensibly all-powerful leader, which means he\'s actively working against himself and the creation of anyone else like himself. Maybe it\'s another \
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Leto II\\\'s plan is to introduce the idea to humans never to put their trust in one charismatic, ostensibly all-powerful leader, which means he\\\'s actively working against himself and the creation of anyone else like himself. Maybe it\\\'s another \\\"unfortunate implication\\\" that tyranny can lead to the putting down of tyranny, but once again I don\\\'t think it can remotely be argued that the actual value that Herbert was trying to get across was as simple as \\\"societies are bad when they\\\'re decadent.\\\"

And as for the second point, once again, the situation is far more complicated than \\\"Dune\\\'s society was bad because decadence is bad.\\\" It also had a rigid class structure where the rich preyed on the weak, and that was portrayed as bad. I don\\\'t think that could reasonably be argued as values dissonance, but it\\\'s a major element of the story that Herbert was trying to tell about the state of the universe.
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Leto II\'s plan is to introduce the idea to humans not to put their trust in one charismatic, ostensibly all-powerful leader, which means he\'s actively working against himself and the creation of anyone else like himself. Maybe it\'s another \
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Leto II\\\'s plan is to introduce the idea to humans never to put their trust in one charismatic, ostensibly all-powerful leader, which means he\\\'s actively working against himself and the creation of anyone else like himself. Maybe it\\\'s another \\\"unfortunate implication\\\" that tyranny can lead to the putting down of tyranny, but once again I don\\\'t think it can remotely be argued that the actual value that Herbert was trying to get across was as simple as \\\"societies are bad when they\\\'re decadent.\\\"

And as for the second point, once again, the situation is far more complicated than \\\"Dune\\\'s society was bad because decadence is bad.\\\" It also had a rigid class structure where the rich preyed on the weak, and that was portrayed as bad. I don\\\'t think that could reasonably be argued as values dissonance, but it\\\'s a major element of the story that Herbert was trying to tell about the state of the universe.
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Leto II\'s plan is to introduce the idea to humans not to put their trust in one charismatic, ostensibly all-powerful leader, which means he\'s actively working against himself and the creation of anyone else like himself. Maybe it\'s another \
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Leto II\\\'s plan is to introduce the idea to humans not to put their trust in one charismatic, ostensibly all-powerful leader, which means he\\\'s actively working against himself and the creation of anyone else like himself. Maybe it\\\'s another \\\"unfortunate implication\\\" that tyranny can lead to the putting down of tyranny, but once again I don\\\'t think it can remotely be argued that the actual value that Herbert was trying to get across was as simple as \\\"societies are bad when they\\\'re decadent.\\\"

And as for the second point, once again, the situation is far more complicated than \\\"Dune\\\'s society was bad because decadence is bad.\\\" It also had a rigid class structure where the rich preyed on the weak, and that was portrayed as bad. I don\\\'t think that could reasonably be argued as values dissonance, but it\\\'s a major element of the story that Herbert was trying to tell about the state of the universe.
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Leto II\'s plan is to introduce the idea to humans not to put their trust in one charismatic, ostensibly all-powerful leader, which means he\'s actively working against himself and the creation of anyone else like himself. Maybe it\'s another unfortunate implication that tyranny can lead to the putting down of tyranny, but once again I don\'t think it can remotely be argued that the actual value that Herbert was trying to get across was as simple as \
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Leto II\\\'s plan is to introduce the idea to humans not to put their trust in one charismatic, ostensibly all-powerful leader, which means he\\\'s actively working against himself and the creation of anyone else like himself. Maybe it\\\'s another \\\"unfortunate implication\\\" that tyranny can lead to the putting down of tyranny, but once again I don\\\'t think it can remotely be argued that the actual value that Herbert was trying to get across was as simple as \\\"societies are bad when they\\\'re decadent.\\\"

And as for the second point, once again, the situation is far more complicated than \\\"Dune\\\'s society was bad because decadence was bad.\\\" It also had a rigid class structure where the rich preyed on the weak, and that was portrayed as bad. I don\\\'t think that could reasonably be argued as values dissonance, but it\\\'s a major element of the story that Herbert was trying to tell about the state of the universe.
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This may be something that should be brought up elsewhere, but I think a few too many tropes for the game have been split off into subpages. \'\'The Binding of Isaac\'\' is only one game, a remake, and several expansions (plus tropes from \'\'Legend of Bum-bo\'\', which probanly needs its own page), yet there are over a dozen splits from main page tropes, YMMV, and Trivia. This may have been a consequence of so many entries being bloated in size, which was a big problem on main before I cleaned it up.
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This may be something that should be brought up elsewhere, but I think a few too many tropes for the game have been split off into subpages. \\\'\\\'The Binding of Isaac\\\'\\\' is only one game, a remake, and several expansions (plus tropes from \\\'\\\'Legend of Bum-bo\\\'\\\', which probably needs its own page), yet there are over a dozen splits from main page tropes, YMMV, and Trivia. This may have been a consequence of so many entries being bloated in size, which was a big problem on main before I cleaned it up.
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