WMG / Shrek 2

Queen Lillian is Charlotte LaBouff from Disney’s The Princess and the Frog

They both have the same hair colour and are both from adaptations of The Frog Prince. This would mean that Big Daddy was the previous King of Far Far Away. Big Daddy’s deceased wife was the Queen of Far Far Away at the time.

Dragon became a human princess when Donkey drank the Happily Ever After potion

Apparently, there is a story about a princess whose father died and her mother spoiled her and when the Princess ascended the throne, she was a tyrannical ruler, which led to a witch turning her into a dragon for 300 years and she had to see the error of her ways by then, but she never did.

So if Dragon is the princess from that story, she could’ve turned human again, and it would explode why she was at Fiona’s baby shower in Shrek the Third.

BTW, can anyone plz give this troper a link to the tale he just explained?

Queen Lillian has quite a few sisters, who are Disney Queens

In the original Frog Prince fairytale, the princess who Lillian is based on has quite a few sisters, so maybe Queen Lillian has the same number of sisters, who would be a parody of the sisters in the original fairytale, and they would be Disney Queens, which would mean that the Princesses in Shrek 3 are cousins. It could also be a tradition in Far Far Away to allow any siblings of the monarch to own small kingdoms within Far Far Away.

So Queen Lillian’s sisters are, as follows:

• Queen Katherine (Snow White’s biological mother)

• Queen Ingrid (The Evil Queen, seen in Shrek the Third; we also see her castle in the respective video game)

• Queen Leila (Sleeping Beauty’s Mother, name comes from Maleficent)

• Queen Arianna (Rapunzel’s mother)

• Fairy Godmother (as a theory below suggests)

• Queen Eudora (Tiana’s Mother, based on her Once Upon A Time counterpart)(?)
  • How Eudora can be Lillian's sister, given the fact she's African American, while Lillian and other Queens mentioned above her are white? Does this mean that one of their parents was Black? Plus, Lillian herself already fills the role of princess from the "Frog Prince". Or it could be similar case like with Three Bears, where Bears from The Last Wish are different individuals than those from first Shrek, which could explain why we have two Frog Princesses.
    • Maybe in the Shrek universe, Queen Eudora is white, Also, Lillian is based on the Princess from The Frog Prince, while Tiana is based on Princess Emma from ED Baker’s The Frog Princess, so maybe Tiana in the Shrek universe is the Shrek version of the Frog Princess.

The Fairy Godmother is the Shrek equivalent of the Odd Sisters from Serena Valentino’s Disney Villain book series

She has all the fairytale books in her factory, so she could’ve written them, like the Odd Sisters wrote the Book of Fairy Tales, but with the magical ink that Rumplestiltskin has in Shrek 4 (which could be why King Harold at the beginning was reluctant to go against the Godmother). Heck, Fairy Godmother’s first name could’ve been Lucinda.The villains’s fates would have been predetermined before they were born, hence their being at the Poison Apple and Captain Hook’s statement of “(Being villains) is the only thing (the villains) know”.

Fairy Godmother was part of the Far Far Away Royal Family, maybe as a Princess, and was denied the throne because the royal family Does Not Like Magic

Which is why she is evil and why Queen Lillian in Shrek 4 says she doesn’t trust her. This also makes her like Ursula from Disney’s The Little Mermaid.

• Jossed: Supplemental material reveals her backstory and says she's the evil twin of Cinderella's fairy godmother.

King Harold was actually born a human prince and got turned into a frog by a Wicked Witch.

Which would in turn lead to him asking the Fairy Godmother to turn him human again. But that was reversed with her downfall.When Fiona was born, the same witch that cursed Harold cursed Fiona to become a frog-like humanoid at night, to make us think that Harold was born a frog and Fiona was born with the curse because she is half-Frog, which is untrue.

The Fairy Godmother played the roles of Dame Gothel from Rapunzel, Cinderella’s Stepmother, the Evil Fairy from Beauty and the Beast, Carabosse from Sleeping Beauty and all the other female villains we do not see in the Shrek franchise.

Fairy Godmother cursed Fiona.

Many would argue that Fiona inherited her father's magical nature (a frog-turned human), but it would make as much sense that the Fairy Godmother had used her magic to curse Fiona at a young age as part of a gambit so that her son could marry into the royal family.

We can already tell that she is the type of person who could do such a thing. She was responsible for turning Harold into a human, so it is likely that she could turn anyone into anything. That's when the long game is played.

1. Have one of her clients marry into a prominently influential family (Harold becoming King of Far Far Away) so that she would have a finger in that pie. A newly crowned man of influence is now trapped into her grasp by a magical debt. Make sure the parameters of her price are left vague and open enough so that she can rig things in her favor.
2. When Fiona is born, inflict a curse on her. The curse will make it so that they have every incentive to break it, like the type of monster that people will form angry mobs to kill if it is ever found out (like an ogre). It does not matter if the King knew that she was the one who did it or if the Fairy Godmother waved it off as a side-effect to the magically altered nature of his genetics. Whether she is created the posion or not, she is the only one with an antidote.
3. Offer a solution to the problem. It is likely that Harold did not know how exactly how daughter's curse came about, but the only person who would know anything about it would be the Fairy Godmother. She instructs the royal family exactly how to break it and then have her son break it for them, securing herself and her family as the true power behind the kingdom with no foreseeable way of losing it. Since the King is in her debt, all she has to do is wave her wand and rescind the one spell that gave him his Happily Ever After should he in anyway jeopardize her plan and he will fall in line.

Dragon became an Asian-style dragon after Donkey drank the potion

They generally look far more graceful than the European ones; plus, Donkey’s voice actor actually voiced one in the past, who was an animal sidekick just like Donkey and they could have easily referenced this. Major missed opportunity.

• Jossed. She actually became a pegasus.

The Happily Ever After potion is diluted Shimmer

A purplish-blue liquid that causes whoever it touches to drastically change form? Sounds pretty familiar, huh? It seems much weaker than normal, since the transformation isn't instant and is only temporary without a true love's kiss, and there doesn't seem to have any of its other magical effects, so it's likely it's been diluted or mixed with a different potion to lessen the effects.