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- It's more likely because Phantom is so deep into the Fulbright role, that's what he would actually do. It's somewhat similar to what happened in the second game, Phoenix didn't ask the right question to find out what "Fulbright" is truly hiding, just like Matt Engarde.
- This will ruin another of Apollo's possible ships, however.
- Jossed. She wears crescent moon earrings and specialises in psychology because her mother worked at an astronomy research facility and was a professor in psychology.
- Confirmed, more or less. She gets kidnapped by Aura's robots in Case 5.
- Jossed. She's involved in at least Case 2 of the game.
- She also appears in-between in the other cases, and has a role in Case 5 (see above). So completely jossed.
- I'd not like to believe this WMG.
- At least partially jossed. Apollo is alive - just severely bandaged up.
- Edgeworth is also shown to be alive along with Trucy.
- Klavier is alive and well too. Kristoph is probably still in jail. The only missing character is Ema but seriously doubt she was in that courtroom to begin with so, Jossed.
- There was only one victim in the bombing and it was even revealed that she was killed before the incident and it was an entirely new character. So, fully Jossed.
- There is another version of a "Prosecutor Justice Theory". Apollo will become a prosecutor in his own will, because of an issue between he, Phoenix, and Lamiroir, who is actually Thalassa Gramarye, he and Trucy's mother. Also inspired by a fan-fic written by a person in Fanfiction.net named "nevertalk".
- Jossed. Apollo is the defense in Case 2.
- Not completely jossed with the theory around that Case 2 is a flashback. After all, Apollo is not bandaged nor does he give off the antagonistic feel in said case.
- Now completely jossed. We see this "antagonistic" design in Case 1 before the trial, and he's still wearing his attorney's badge.
- Also, both Klavier and Trucy are perfectly fine.
- Though Apollo does display that he'd make a fantastic prosecutor in Case 5 when he's testifying and does the prosecution's work for them. Edgeworth doesn't get much commentary in whilst Apollo is on the stand. So in a way, he was prosecuting, even if it wasn't official.
- This troper here is convinced that the silhouette at the end of the Gyakuten Saiban 5 trailer is Apollo, but he/she also thinks that the silhouette at the end of the trailer is the aforementioned friend, and not Apollo.
- Although some might be turned off due to the fact that Athena is technically the same age as Pearl...
- Never mind only two years older than his daughter!
- on a related note...
- They're of a closer age, and unlike Trucy she isn't his half-sister, so this seems to makes sense.
- They get some Ship Tease, Klavier even thinks they are dating but it is nothing compared to the amount that Juniper/Apollo receives.
- OBJECTION! It is more likely that Phoenix would make his Big Damn Heroes Objection while not being a defense attorney. Think about it: so many non-attorney characters have made objections and saved the trial. It'd actually be much harder for Phoenix to object and try to overtake Apollo's role as the defense attorney, because, as evidenced in AJ case 4, defense attorney switching takes place outside of court. Phoenix has better luck saving Maya as a random bystander bursting into the courtroom then a licensed DA.
- Jossed, if you're referring to AA 5 - Maya doesn't appear personally in the game (though she does send Phoenix a letter), and she certainly isn't involved in a murder, so this isn't what motivated Phoenix to get his badge back. But she may well appear in future games, and get caught up in a murder as per tradition.
- While she doesn't appear in AA 5, it's hinted that she will appear in the next game (chronologically speaking, obviously). In the letter she sent Phoenix, she mentions that she wants to see him, but can't at the time because she's undergoing a vital part of her training. In the credits, Pearl says that Maya is due to visit when she finishes her training.
- ...egad... if this occurs around the time of Phoenix's disbarment, he'll be paired with Mike Meekins...
- Jossed for now, but who knows what the future holds beyond AA 5?
If the above is true, then in the next game both Pearls and Edgeworth (or Franziska) will appear, possibly including Gumshoe, Kay and Maya. The cases will go like so: Case 1 will be Apollo vs Payne, Cases 2,3 and possibly 4 will have Apollo vs Pearl, the final case will be Apollo vs either Edgeworth, Franziska or Klavier, and there will possibly be one bit where you play as a recently reinstated Phoenix, possibly for the first part of the last case. Also, to prove to Pearl that the lawyer spirit still burns brightly in the Wright Anything Agency, Apollo (with Maya or a channeled Mia's help) will grab Phoenix's magatama and use it in his cases, which will become a key point when in the last case you have to combine the Psyche Lock and Percieve systems to defeat the Black Psyche Locks. Kay, when she appears, will basically be looking for evidence with Pearl or for Edgeworth.
- Confirmed. Edgeworth and Pearl (and if her letter is any indication, Maya) know about Phoenix's disbarring.
- Perhaps we'll have old character such as Edgeworth, Maya and Pearl return too.
- Confirmed. Apollo is playable in Case 2.
- Double-confirmed. Phoenix is playable in Case 5 and the DLC, and also the second part of Case 4.
- Lynne from Ghost Trick being channeled by Pearl
- An entirely new character, may or may not related with old characters.
- Already dead and being channeled by someone to solve the mysteries regarding her murder...
- Part of the new Yatagarasu team, along with Kay and Ema.
- All jossed apart from the second guess, Athena is a new character but her history is related to Phoenix's disbarment, her mother was employed at the same space centre as Apollo's best friend and she attends the same high school that Klavier once did.
- Actually an Android... Built for the sole purpose of integrating the emotion-reading technology into a form that could be used in court expressly for the purpose of using the Mood Matrix to bring down the Phantom. Essentially the ultimate product of the emotion research put into Ponco and Clonco. It'd explain her sudden spout of knowledge into psychology and law in such a short space of time with no contacts to speak of. Government benefactors shipped her off after her co-creator (Metis) was murdered where she was refitted and reprogrammed with knowledge and rewired to suppress the trauma which had shocked her 'core'. This explains how she turns over a brand new leaf personality wise considering how shy and reclusive she was pre-trauma. Also explains how she is strong enough to fling a guard effortlessly through the air and how widget can READ HER MIND (biological to technological mind reading in a small device is nonsense, much more plausible for there to be a wireless signal between her and widget). Aura was utterly furious the Government pulled her 'product' away and misdirected this aggression towards Athena when she met her again seeing her as 'her' property but living her own life (she doesn't have a high opinion of robots). Widget was clearly designed to serve as a communication tool before Athena could properly speak as it could convey thoughts and emotions she struggled with. Athena thinks the robotic operating table is a one-shot fix-all for people? IT WOULD BE FOR HER IF SHE WAS AN ANDROID. It provides a plausible explanation as to where Athena gets her relatively unexplained power too and how it could be controlled with technology (her headphones) as later on during the refitting they solved that glitch perfecting Athenatron's design. Bonus points if Athena's 'power' is sourced from the strange frequencies given off by the space rock.
- Unconfirmed...for now.
- A case at Apollo's old orphanage.
- A case where a murder takes place at a Snackoo factory. Ema is very pleased.
- Winston Payne as your client. It's bound to happen eventually, right?
- All jossed.
- It's unlikely they'd bring Phoenix back to please fans then do something like that which would unquestionably cause several of them to boycott the series in rage. But not impossible.
- Jossed.
- After all, do you think they'd really kill off everyone's favorite lovable lawyer? No. No, they would not. Would they pretend to kill him, causing much disbelief and tears among the fans, before revealing his "death" was just another one of his Chessmaster ploys in achieving some hidden end? Yes, yes they would. And it would be awesome.
- So the real victim would be Furio Tigre?
- Jossed. However, this WMG seemed to have crossed CAPCOM's mind as they built the investigation demo video for AA 5 around it, as seen here.
- Definitely possible. In what capacity would he appear? Well, when we last saw him he was only 7 years old and already extremely aggressive. He may have kept going in that direction and now, at age 17, he's a teenage troublemaker who's behaviour catches up with him when he accidentally gets implicated in a murder. Who does he call? The first lawyer to come to mind would most likely be the one who successfully got his childhood hero off the hook, wouldn't it? Especially with his fond memories of his very nice assistant who did that trade with him...or maybe he'll just be a minor character. Or a witness again. Maybe there'll be another Samurai-related case. Who knows?
- Jossed.
- Kurain Channeling Technique is actually reverse Yomiel. Instead of the spirit posessing the body, the Kurain Technique is to summon them into the channeller's body.
- The Magatama they all endow is a Temsik fragment.
- Jossed. A crossover is still possible, but it ain't this game.
- This new girl has blue eyes. Pearl has brown.
- It's been made pretty clear that they just don't care about consistent eye colours. Phoenix's eye's have been shown as blue on several posters (though none for AA 5) but always appear dark in the games.
- Jossed. The trailer states that she's a new character, Athena Cykes.
- Plus, Pearl appears in-game, with an appearance of being a teenager.
- Jossed. Edgeworth's back with a spiffy new coat and glasses, and it looks like we'll be facing him in court.
- She doesn't look too much like Trucy or Pearl to me, so she's probably a new character.
- Actually, Apollo is playable in Case 2, so semi-Jossed.
- Half-confirmed - there is a new font.
- Jossed, the new character is Phoenix's understudy, Athena Cykes. And yes, I did just Joss my own theory.
- How? If she's Franziska's sister's daughter, then she could very well be von Karma's granddaughter.
- This would imply that Metis Cykes is the daughter of Manfred von Karma, and, as we all know, evidence is everything in court and semi-serious WMG.
- Jossed
- Jossed. Maya is alive, having sent Phoenix a letter and is scheduled to visit, as Pearl says in The Stinger, so she can't be channeling Phoenix.
- Doesn't seem like it. Apollo's still there, Trucy's around, Edgeworth's back.
- Maya isn't.
- Maya sends Phoenix a letter and is planning on visiting Phoenix, so that's Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Jossed, probably. The new trailer indicates this character as Ted Tonate, and doesn't even attempt to hide his suspiciousness, so he's probably just as much of a Bad Liar as Sawhit. (That and the last chartacter who appeared in a trailer like this Portsman did indeed turn out to be guilty) There's still room to believe the bombing was masterminded by someone else though.
- Tonate isn't the bomber either. It's Phantom, who is most likely not either of the Paynes.
- Jossed, probably. The new trailer indicates this character as Ted Tonate, and doesn't even attempt to hide his suspiciousness, so he's probably just as much of a Bad Liar as Sawhit. (That and the last chartacter who appeared in a trailer like this Portsman did indeed turn out to be guilty) There's still room to believe the bombing was masterminded by someone else though.
- Considering the people who watched (and attempted to assassinate) the Phantom, this is most likely confirmed.
- Well, they did rate it M...
- Jossed. Yumihiko does not make an appearance in this game at any point.
- Actually, considering her name, she might be from Greece.
- Jossed. As a child, she lived in the GYAXA space station in Los Angeles. She is confirmed to have studied in Europe, however, so it's entirely possible that she trained as a laywer in Germany.
- Unless he's Phantom, Jossed.
- Semi-confirmed. They are close enough to go to one of Trucy's magic shows together, and to make their Ho Yay-section even longer, but no word about their closets.
- It's possible Edgeworth actually got the suit for Phoenix as part of convincing him to come back and put an end to the Dark Age of the Law. Like Phoenix make a joke that he didn't have anything to wear as he got rid of his old suit ages ago, and Edgeworth, since he doesn't get jokes, took him seriously and had his tailor (because he probably has one) make Phoenix a suit. I'm picturing complaining and being stabbed with pins, while Edgeworth sits in a corner being amused and drinking tea. But honestly, the only real difference between Phoenix's two suits is the waistcoat, something that Godot and Apollo also wear. Not just Edgeworth.
- If you thought his breakdown at the end of AJ was epic, he'll have a bigger one here. It won't be broken with a multitude of items, but with a Chekhov's Gun
- Yes, but the real question here is how much worse and epic can a breakdown get than "a laugh louder than anyone had ever heard...or since. A laugh, which echoed in the halls of justice for what seemed like hours."
- While the idea with Kristoph's is jossed, black Psyche-Locks DO return, and we DO get to crack them.
- It's likely that Kristoph's Psyche-locks already cracked at the end of 4-4, and his breakdown was the result of the "brute force" method Pearl mentioned.
- Jossed.
- A Tradition of the series that Edgeworth and the Feys will be involved to the final case of the trilogy someway.
- Confirmed, though it's Edgeworth and a Fey.
- As seen in the design.
- I don't know, he seems fine in Case 2 and on the box-art. Then again, Case 2 and other midgame cases could be a flashback.
- Based on the demo, Apollo got the injuries by protecting Juniper from the debris. So confirmed, I guess.
- Jossed actually. It is later revealed he was not injured in the bombing. He is wearing the bandages to suppress his "perceive" ability.
- No, it's confirmed, because Athena has to take the defence's bench in Case 1 because his wounds reopen. She actually notes that he's bleeding through his bandages. So yes, he got badly hurt. The only thing there to suppress his perception is the eyepatch.
- With a criminal prosecutor on the scene, it's certain that one of the game's cases will involve looking into the incident that he was accused of. Naturally, he'll turn out to have been framed, or took the fall for someone else.
- Confirmed. He took the fall after Athena supposedly killed her mother.
- ...and this will lead to some bad blood between him and Apollo, given Apollo's past association with Gavin. Given the kind of person Gavin is, it wouldn't be surprising if it turned out he stabbed his client in the back.
- Come on, the fact that he's serving a murder sentence has to be significant to the game's overall plot somehow. I predict thee final case will be made up of equal parts flashbacks to his trial and a new case in the present that turns out to be connected. And if the above WMG about Blackquill being innocent is true, the real killer will be the game's Big Bad.
- Confirmed. It's the whole reason behind the final trial.
- Mostly because their names would work well as a Dark Is Not Evil, Light Is Not Good motif. Fulbright will have been Obsfucation Stupidity the whole time, and either his "In Justice we trust" Catchphrase will be bitterly ironic or take on a twisted meaning as he is revealed to be a ruthless Knight Templar detective who's willing to forge evidence and tamper with crime scenes to ensure criminals are found guilty... and if all else fails, he takes justice into his own hands and murders them himself.
- Confirmed, for the most part. Though it's not actually Fulbright...
- Firstly, you're playing as Apollo, so this could be set before Phoenix gets his badge back. Secondly, Apollo still has his old design. Either the case takes place before the explosion, or he recovered really quickly.
- Confirmed.
- Jossed; Phoenix faces him at one point. Plus, his glasses are in the pocket of his coat.
- Specifically, him finding out about Bansai Ichiyanagi, and him being the Chief Prosecutor who gave von Karma the penalty, thus leading to the DL-6 incident. Now knowing full well the damage an Amoral Attorney in the position can do, Edgeworth was determined to never let that happen again.
- Alternatively, he's pushing for a law that requires all female prosecutors to wear... TINY MINISKIRTS!
- *Cue coma-inducing whipping session from Franziska*
- Alternatively, he's pushing for a law that requires all female prosecutors to wear... TINY MINISKIRTS!
- Will be Thalassa/Lamiroir. This is when Phoenix will tell Apollo and Trucy that she was their mother, and they realize they're half-siblings.
- Jossed.
- Phoenix and Apollo will both work on separate, seemingly unrelated cases at the same time. As progress is made, it becomes clear that the two cases are closely connected, and the two of them will have to share information with each other in order to solve them.
- Additionally, not only will Edgeworth be involved, but Klavier will come back too, reviving the tradition of a previous prosecutor coming Back for the Finale from the original trilogy.
- Semi-Confirmed. The last case acts similar to Case 1-4 where both the past case and the present case are solved, in this case the UR-1 incident and the Clay Terran murder and both having the same mastermind no less. Klavier's return as a prosecutor here is jossed though.
- And then she'll slap the crap out of Phoenix for "having a child with someone who isn't Mystic Maya" only to have everything explained to her afterwards.
- You'd think that they'd have met during the Time Skip, though.
- I'm gonna officially Joss this 'un even though most of us know that by now for the sake of pointing out that Pearl actually doesn't seem to think Phoenix and Maya are a thing anymore. Oh, and Pearl's already met Trucy; Phoenix says that Pearls has been like an older sister to Trucy.
- You'd think that they'd have met during the Time Skip, though.
In addition, depending on the point of the game Apollo would be switching assistants. Trucy for one part, Athena for another, Pearl for another. Possibly Athena would only be in the court section, and mid-section swap outs may occur. Possibly included in this is Pearl channeling Mia to comment on Apollo's skills. Oh yes, and for added value, the Prosecutor in this case would most likely be Edgeworth.
- Jossed.
- Already happened in Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney. Specifically, case 1.
- Jossed.
- Half-confirmed? He does come into court in Case 5 with a new theory for the case and it is most dramatic, except what he says is beneficial to the prosecution for a change of flavour and it's actually pretty solid. What he has to say, though, eventually helps Phoenix realise who the real culprit must be and how he escaped. And he does indeed go through character development; not even Edgeworth goes as far as Apollo did to seek the truth.
- Theory 1 semi-confirmed, it does attack phoenix, the results however are unknown as of yet.
(2) Going to be the genesis of a bunch of "Phoenix vs. Hawk" wordplay in the English version.
(3) Going to be used to demonstrate that the prosecutor is not all bad via a few Pet the Dog moments.
(4) One of the animals from the local prison as seen in The Imprisoned Turnabout. Though why they thought animal therapy would be usefull for a prisoner on death row is beyond me.
- Well we've already heard Phoenix's new voice in Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 and his Objection in the trailer, and indeed his voice has already divided some fans, with some thinking he now sounds a bit teenager-ish despite being older!
- Well...they're not great...
- ...their designs will be loosely based off of their Onimusha◊ Soul◊ outfits◊.
- In addition, if Kay does appear again, her Little Thief will also be based off of her Onimusha Soul design, where the Little Thief will now be a sort of Tricked Out Glove.
- Maya did return briefly, but only in a flashback. Jossed.
- The original Cornered theme has appeared in every main game so far. There's no doubt in my mind that it will play at some point in this game too.
- However, considering this is a 3DS game, it will be the Professor Layton vs. Ace Attorney version. Either that, or Phoenix changed his ringtone.
- Jossed in the main game.
- However, considering this is a 3DS game, it will be the Professor Layton vs. Ace Attorney version. Either that, or Phoenix changed his ringtone.
- ...as a nice Call-Back.
- Jossed. He does have a "freakout", but it's not losing his hair, it's running away from the courtroom.
- Semi-confirmed in Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney – Spirit of Justice. Gaspen's freakout makes his wig fall from his head, revealing he is bald.
- ...is actually Manfred von Karma in disguise.
- Jossed.
- Since the previews suggest that Apollo got injured in the courtroom bombing in Case 1, and he shows up without the bandages in Case 2, it's highly probable that Case 2 (and possibly Case 3) take place before Case 1.
- Confirmed. Case 2 is the first case chronologically, then Case 3, and Case 1 actually takes place in the middle of Case 4.
- Will be revealed along with the identity of his killer/the company he works for in a future Ace Attorney.
- Considering the space motifs throughout the latter two cases, what if the Phantom was an actual alien?
- This stems from one moment in Investigations 2 Case 5, where Souta manages to mimic Edgeworth perfectly, including his voiced Objection. Maybe this could have been Foreshadowing? As for the loss of identity, Souta seems like the kind of guy who'd want to forget his past. And given his only father figure was an assassin, maybe he decided to become one himself?
- Because it seems an obvious place to add a Title Drop via Woolseyism.
- Jossed, it's "Turnabout for Tomorrow".
- It may seem completely out there, but we never did find out who she truly was, so completely losing her identity might not be hard to imagine and she was already a skilled infiltrator. The body change is dramatic, but considering how some characters transform it's not uncommon.
- If thats the case, then that means Calisto Yew broke out of prison. Though, Im not sure why she would do that, the smuggling ring is dead thanks to the arrest of Quercus Alba... although, now that I think about it, what if it didnt? What if the smuggling ring survived? Sure, Alba and Ernest were arrested and Manny is dead, but if this is correct then Calisto Yew may have broken out of prison, and then, maybe, she took over. Maybe the ring never died. We dont know what organization the Phantom works for. Maybe its the ring? Sure, Zheng Fas President claims that ring died, but what if it just reorganized. Or stop operations for a while. Or left Zheng Fa entirely and thats all the President cares about. Or maybe he doesnt actually know and made the whole event just for publicity. This the same event where he faked an attempt on his life to look powerful. Maybe he pretended the ring dead to look good. Or maybe the President has a part in the ring. Hes not noblest person. Admittedly, I dont know why the smuggling ring would want to sabotage a rocket, but we dont know why the Phantoms organization wanted to begin with. Maybe the ring has connections to private space corporations and GYAXA was a huge threat? Maybe this theoretical private corporation was owned by the Amano group? Maybe they also survived? Sure, we assume that they dissolved after Ernest Amano was tried, but we have no evidence. Or hell, even if the smuggling ring is dead, that doesnthe Phantom broke out of before, whose to say they wont do it again?
- In Ghost Trick, it was shown just how far the country was willing to go to in order for them to get the Temsik meteor and the Ghost powers, so it's not that hard to imagine them sabotaging another nation's space program for their own needs. It has been previously confirmed by Word of God that both franchises are in the same universe, so you'd only have to imagine the blue skin was merely GT's artistic license and not how they truly looked. Phantom's realistic and numerous masks also fits in with their odd technology: advanced, but a bit off.
- We never hear anything about the character's middle name. While his name as given is already a Punny Name on "detonate", there's even more opportunity there. Simply put, his middle initial HAS to be N, so that his initials spell out TNT.
- Maybe it's "Nigel" to be a play on "Nitro" as in nitro(glycerine).
- Bonus points if his face has been disfigured in some way.
- Even better-when the lawyers figure out that he's the real Fulbright, his first few lines after he drops the "Noir" act will be "In justice...WE TRUST!" Major Crowning Moment potential there.
- Messed-up idea — he wasn't in a coma, he was in a mental institution. The Phantom failed in trying to kill him, but messed up his face well enough that when Bobby tried to tell people he was the real deal and the Phantom was just an impostor, no one believed him.
- Would clear up a major contradiction in Turnbabout for Tommorrow. If the real Fulbright died a year ago why is his corpse in good enough condition to be printed. If he was prints when the body was discovered why did the Phahtom's impersonation scheme work at all? Surely the police would notice one of their officers prints showing up on a corpse. The only logical explanation is the second one. Fulbright is heavily scarred, and comatose/"legally dead" and will awaken when it's convenient for the writers.
- It IS rather suspicious that they never printed the comatose Fulbright, who would have been a John Doe during his stay at the hospital. If they'd printed him or even run a DNA test to see if they could identify him, they would have gotten an answer right away because Fulbright is in the police database. It's also very suspicious that they just happened to find his corpse when it was convenient, and instead of relying on DNA which is the logical thing to do to a year old corpse, they chose to get it's prints. Which means that both of these situations seem rather unlikely. This would imply that the real Fulbright is most likely not only alive, but fully concious and active. It's possible that he hid his identity, or perhaps mostly lost it, for that year's time before he went to the police department on hearing that the Phantom was in trial and announced who he really is. Fulbright would have appeared on television during Cases 4 and 5, because the bombing of the Cosmos Space Centre was possibly covered by the media, and we can see media members during Case 5's hostage situation. If the real Fulbright didn't die but lost his identity, he might have realised what had happened and who he really was on seeing the Phantom on the telly. It's possible that Edgeworth was using Exact Words at the time, and Fulbright, the real one, believes That Man Is Dead.
- I'm calling it. Bobby Fulbright was "declared dead" and was placed under witness protection and will appear as a witness in Supreme Court testifying against the Phantom for War Crimes.
- Even better-when the lawyers figure out that he's the real Fulbright, his first few lines after he drops the "Noir" act will be "In justice...WE TRUST!" Major Crowning Moment potential there.
- Probably the government of the in-game equivalent of the USSR. Maybe in Phoenix's universe, the cold war never ended and both countries are still bitterly locked in the space race.
Now, the prosecution not mentioning it can easily be explained by saying they had a similar philosophy as Von Karma: they did notice and said nothing because it would hurt their case. However, why wouldn't the defense bring it up? Because they wanted to lose. The attorney was a plant from the same country as the Phantom. After all, there's precedence for people sneaking into the field with Calisto Yew.
- OBJECTION! I'll admit: it's a fun theory, and I even considered it myself. Trouble is, the timing just doesn't add up. Kristoph already had his scar when he visited the Mishams to commission the evidence forgery, which is when the young Vera Misham witnessed the "devil face". By the time of Dual Destinies, that event happened 8 years ago. The Phantom murdered Metis Cykes and got stabbed through the hand 7 years prior to Dual Destinies, or one year after the forgery. In short, Kristoph's scar predates the Phantom's hand injury, and the two are unrelated.
- This would explain why she takes on some female stereotypes after her gender is revealed. She suddenly starts spelling out words and acronyms (O-M-G, e.g.), spinning and squeeing, and constantly posing at angles that show off her curves. This behavior bothered me at first because she was suddenly acting like a shallow girly-girl, but that's the point. She misguidedly thinks that a) she has to be feminine, and b) this is how to do it. Alternatively, she's just had to bottle up her femininity for so long that she now unintentionally expresses it in an over-the-top way.
- OBJECTION! Why would Yomiel go out of his way to disguise himself as his target when he could just possess them directly? The defense concedes that the Phantom's abilities could have something to do with Temsik, but Yomiel's powers go way beyond simple disguises.
- OBJECTION! The possibility remains that he could have killed Bobby Fulbright, which he would be unable to correct by rewinding time. Thus, his only option would be to disguise himself as the target.
- There's a problem with this, though. Zak calls Apollo's bracelet a family heirloom, which would imply it's pretty darn old. Likely older than Magnifi at least, and there's not a piece of moon rock on earth that is from that time.
- At least, nothing that's yet been positively identified as any specific mineral...
- An 'heirloom' doesn't have a set amount of generations as criteria. It could've started from Magnifi Gramarye, who was born in 1952, which means he grew up during the Space Race (1955-1972). Or even better, it started out as a chunk of moon rock, which he then had carved into bracelets, which he then gave to Thalassa, and so on.
The difference between the DS remake and GBA is that Phoenix defends Lana. Now, what if he didn't? Lana would have been found guilty since she admitted to the murder, but Ema wouldn't believe it. Ema would then change her career path into a defense attorney instead to save her.
It would be very much like Dual Destinies plot. There are many similarities :
- Sibling(-like) relationship : Simon-Athena, Lana-Ema
- The prosecutor takes the blame for someone else : Lana and Simon
- The plucky teenage girl with gadget and special skills : Athena with her widget and hearing skills, Ema with her forensic toolkit and investigating skills.
TL, DR. Without Rise from the Ashes, Ema would have been a defense attorney.
As for who would go after those two: Well for starters, Phoenix Wright had already successfully defended multiple people and recently foiled the Phantom's plot. But someone had to hire him in the first place. With Pearl and Apollo out of the way, that only leaves Phoenix's finitely-powered magmatama and Athena's Mood Matrix, Once that magmatama dries up, It falls back to Athena...
As for why? Besides the devs finally making Apollo the defendant, Athena was the defendant of the last case of Dual Destinies, and it was revealed that her earring is made of the moon rock. With Apollo and Pearl in prison or worse and Phoenix powerless, all it would take is separating the two and stealing the earring and that rock is theirs.
- If I follow correctly (and this is an idea I've kicked around in my head for the sake of something I'm working on), it's possible Apollo being accused of murder and Pearls nearly being murdered could happen at once, where the attempted murderer disguises himself as Apollo as perfectly as the Phantom did of Fulbright, and intentionally doesn't kill Pearls, but simply hospitalises her, making her accuse Apollo of trying to murder her since that's who she's beyond certain she saw and heard. Intentionally leave her alive to pin the blame on him. It would be quicker and easier to break the Magatama than wait for it to dry up, since it took about a decade for it to run out of energy initially. After all, Phoenix wouldn't be adverse to lending the Magatama to Apollo, especially since Apollo's special ability is by far the easiest to foil by simply fidgeting on purpose. And the fact that none of them sense someone is lying at the same time (in other words, they never see a Psyche-Lock, a nervous tell, or hear an out-of-place emotion at the same time). All the culprit would have to do is continue to pose as Apollo, request the Magatama's use for the day, and then take Pearls with him as his investigative partner for his case before staging her attempted murder and destroying the Magatama. All the culprit would have to do is make sure Pearls can articulate what happened.
In the meantime, he decided to keep an eye on his unintentional decoy Simon Blackquill, Taking many identities in the process including Bobby Fulbright's but You likely know that. However during the case before Simon's execution, his employers hired assassins to off the phantom both because of revenge for failing to stop the HAT-1 and because he has knowledge they would rather keep secret. However the phantom as shown in his testimony, knew that his employers sent him on a Uriah Gambit, but kept his cool until his "identity" was revealed at which point the assassin shot him at his most vulnerable point. Their plan used Phoenix, Blackquill and Athena to reveal the phantom because the moment the HAT-1 Miracle happened, he became a liability.
However the sniper missed and the spy survived, and it's still unknown who, or what they employers are and why they were after the HAT Project
- Or perhaps she's Calisto Yew/Shih-Na, whose age we don't know for certain. Unless Calisto/Shih-Na are also both the Phantom.
- Considering that he's dead, maybe it'll be found out that he was murdered, and that mystery needs to be solved in conjuncture with another case.
- To narrow it down, she probably has plain old asthma, which (as this asthmatic troper can attest) can definitely be aggravated by both smog and emotional distress. She even uses her sunflower as an impromptu inhaler.
- I don't think she has asthma, exactly. I think she's so used to such good, clean, clear air that the smog-filled air of the city has an affect on her, with similar affects to asthma. I used to know someone who moved to our area from a relatively clean, clear area where she had pretty few neighbours, and she ended up with breathing problems because her lungs weren't used to the smog.
- Why is asthma the go-to for characters like Arianna, Wally, and Juniper? Like I'd be offended myself, because all these characters are super fragile and frail and can't go outside or do anything, which implies that all asthmatics are that way, and I'm pretty sure that's not the case. But everyone just dismisses this as asthma. Asthma can't be romanticised- there's no mystery to it and it's pretty common. There's nothing "lovely" about occasional breathing problems. This is because it doesn't make you delicate or frail, considering that people who are obese or do sports can likewise have asthma. There's nothing tragic about it. There's nothing to really make you feel total sympathy for a character that has asthma the same way you would if they're dying of a terminal illness, which is why the illnesses are never given. Juniper's coughing is caused by her unnamed illness, and is not asthma. Unless you want to tell me that being asthmatic makes you unable to go to school or do anything lest your fragile disposition be unable to tolerate even someone talking to you without you falling into an attack, because that's how it's implied to have been for Juniper, since she's already a pretty weak character and Athena talks about how she "didn't even recognise" Juniper because of how much "stronger" she is.
- This WMG has my total support. MAJOR spoilers, here: The espionage and subterfuge in the international space race was just a red herring, used by the organization to cover the Phantom's tracks. The only reason he targeted the space center at all was to protect his identity, using the excuse for heightened security to provide himself a way into the well-protected center. It was clear he never had any indication of actually stealing the moon rock, since he had to dispose of it in an extremely sloppy way that came back to bite him in the ass. He was only there to kill the person who could potentially identify him, and the only reason he sabotaged the rocket at all was to destroy the moon rock. Of course that failed, so seven years later he had to stage ANOTHER bomb attack for exactly the same reason: to give himself an excuse to be at the center, so he could steal the moon rock back and destroy it, which obviously failed.
- It goes WAY deeper than just the Phantom - the way I see it, his organization isn't trying to bring down the justice system, but control it. The "dark age of the law" was the period in time when this organization - comprised of prosecutors, defense attorneys, cops and even judges - had complete control, using their underhanded tactics to mete out justice the way they saw fit. They used the UR-1 incident to set up a young prosecutor - the Phantom was always going to pin it on Simon. It was a happy accident that the situation worked out to the point where he not only confessed, but refused every attempt to get his conviction overturned.
- If Phoenix Wright had been practicing law at the time, not even a government cover-up and his client claiming he was the murderer would have been enough to keep him from getting to the truth, which is why they had gotten him out of the way first. Bringing in some of the WMG above: Kristoph Gavin was another member of the organization, who framed Phoenix to get him disbarred. With the only man both too stubborn to give up on his clients and too morally upright to be brought into the fold out of the way, they had free reign over the justice system until Chief Prosecutor Edgeworth saw his chance to take them down.
- There's something about Kristoph that makes me wonder, though. I don't think he was part of the Organisation (at least, not initially), but he was manipulated by them, something that would be easy due to his vanity, selfishness, pride, and weak will. Zak's entire case was probably manipulated by the Organisation. It was they who suggested Zak change lawyers, they who gave Gavin Misham's name and the atroquinine (which he likely had to have gotten in a way that doesn't tie him directly to a purchase). It was they who anticipated Gavin to give Phoenix the forgery and rat him out because of his pride being bruised. After all, when the Phantom was cornered, they attempted to murder him. Gavin was tried for two murders, and not shot nor worried about getting killed over it. Gavin MAY have joined after, and murdering Zak was his final task, hence why he lied about why he did it.
- Do you think Calisto Yew was likewise part of this Organisation, as well as the smuggling ring? She and the Phantom have a lot of similarities. Neither has a real identity, for starters. Both impersonated people in the legal profession, both are spies, both are able to become anyone they want, with Yew preferring to make up people and the Phantom preferring the Dead Person Impersonation technique, both have an overtly emotion-ridden façade and both have an emotionless one, with the emotionless one having white as one of their most notable colours.
- I think that Calisto Yew is a Phantom. Not necessarily that one. But just think for yourself. The term Phantom itself was created by Simon Blackquill. The person known as Phantom just doesn't exist. There is only a spy who follows his orders and impersonate people to fullfill his orders. I highly doubt that there is only one spy. Calisto Yew may be another. It is entirely possible that she is the part of this Organisation or even some other Organisation which is rival to it.
- I was just asking your opinion, not... not thinking for myself. It's possible the Phantom being so like Yew is just a huge Red Herring. If Yew does return, though, there might be some huge potential for her being part of the Organisation. If she hasn't been executed, anyway.
- I think that Calisto Yew is a Phantom. Not necessarily that one. But just think for yourself. The term Phantom itself was created by Simon Blackquill. The person known as Phantom just doesn't exist. There is only a spy who follows his orders and impersonate people to fullfill his orders. I highly doubt that there is only one spy. Calisto Yew may be another. It is entirely possible that she is the part of this Organisation or even some other Organisation which is rival to it.
- Adding to this, Redd White may have been part of the same organisation if this WMG is true. It's implied he had most of the legal world in LA under his thumb thanks to blackmail, which would be ideal to the organisation. If the organisation isn't just composed of spies and assassins, it's possible White was part of that organisation. We can assume the organisation existed long before the series began, because the Phantom had been part of it long enough to forget who he was and what he looked like (implying, too, that he possibly started young). White may have been a member, but not someone who had to hide his identity due to being such a prominent member of society. It's possible that, in the film adaptation of the game, the person who was responsible for poisoning White was someone from the organisation, since I don't think it's ever revealed who gave him poison. He was probably a bottom-tier member, hence why White didn't panic about being killed in court like the Phantom was (he probably didn't know he would be) despite the fact that he controlled much of the legal world. Possibly because they'd still have all his blackmail information even if he did die, since there'd have to be some physical evidence.
- Bobby Fllbright was killed one year before events happening in Dual Destinies. You know, the detectives do not die just that simple. There should be a reason for killing him. Most likely he found something that the killer didn't want him to find
- His body was unidentified for a whole year. Most likely it was Phantom who tampered with him to make his body practically inrecognisable. So no one would found out that he was an imposter.
- Finally, It is highly unlikely that Phantom could mimic a guy that well just reading about him in some reports or listening about him from his relatives / coworkers. It is most likely that he knew Fulbright for some time to mimic him
So my point is that Fulbright was in the middle of some investigation where he eventually came close to revealing either
- 1) His identity
- 2)Organisation which hired him
- 3)Or just a simple fact that he was a spy
That was the real reason why he was killed.
And the reason why he was able to find something about Phantom in the first place was either
- Phantom was his colleague (prosecutor or another detective)
- one of the guys related to the case which he has been investigating for some time.
- If this one is true, he may have murdered Fulbright to simply get into the police force on orders from his bosses.
- It is also a probability. But I still don't understand why Fulbright should have been the choice. There are a lot of police officers in their city. So why he had to choose Fulbright It's not like he has some privileges or respect from others.
- It's implied he used Fulbright because then he'd get to be Simon's handler, as Simon says he's known Fulbright a year now, and that's how long the real Bobby's been dead. I'd say that counts as a privilege. Also it doesn't hurt that Fulbright is essentially an idiot. Probably because Fulbright had no exceptional respect from his fellow officers is why he pick him.
- If this one is true, he may have murdered Fulbright to simply get into the police force on orders from his bosses.
They knew each other. And in the next game our old and awesome detective will return. His knowledge about Bobby Fulbright will be very important for the new cases and will help to reveal the organisation who hired Phantom
Because it explains many things. Though indeed, that may look as a May–December Romance at first sight because of large age gap between him and Metis Cykes, but he may have hid his real age. He may be older. And if he isn't, that still doesn't change a thing. He was 16 when Athena was born. Marriage is allowed when a person is 16 years old in USA so it is indeed very possible. Athena didn't mention her father, and she seems to not remembering him or at least remembers him badly. That was most likely because Kristoph abandoned his wife or it may be the other way - Metis learned what a real jerk Kristoph was and threw him out. Anyway, I am almost sure that he looked different at this time (just remember how Klavier looked at this time) so Athena didn't have a chance to recognise him even if she had remembered his face. Further than that it explains two things: Athena's natural talent as a lawyer (passing bar exam at 18 is pretty impressive) and Athena's black locks. We haven't seen them before Kristoph Gavin's appearance, though we have seen a wide range of villains and witnesses during 3 games. This may indicate that this is the very rare case and it may be passed with the genetic transmission. Also Kristoph Gavin started his dealings just one year before Phantom infiltrated Space Center so it makes Kristoph's relation to this case possible. Also, it still hasn't been cleared out what really has driven Kristoph to do all of this and what secret did his black locks hide? Probably he was even somehow related to the organisation which hired Phantom. As we clearly remember it was their actions which started the dark age of the law to begin with. It may have been their intention from the very beginning.
- The only hole I can really shoot in this is that black Psyche-Locks guard secrets that even the owner of the locks doesn't have an (initial) answer to; they're a subconscious, psychological block over both mind and heart. Every other single set of locks we've seen, the person has purposely kept the information to themselves despite having an answer to the question and forced Phoenix (or Edgeworth) to practically drag the truth out of them, and they relent with enough evidence. With the black locks, it's coaxing the truth to the surface; the truth from them can't be forced to the surface lest it damage the person forever, according to Pearl. Black locks aren't triggered by a lie or avoidance of the question like the red ones are, they're triggered, well, by a trigger and it's unlikely that they're genetic; trauma isn't genetic. They're rare because so few people suffer such deep psychological scars that goes even beyond PTSD, and because Phoenix doesn't deal with many people who have dealt with this problem.
- I understand what you mean. But my theory was that not actually the black locks but Athena's ability to experience such deep feelings and probably her ability to feel emotions coming from other people stronger than anyone else is inherited from Kristoph. Because her mother didn't have it and even tried to research it.
- Well, it's never shown but it's implied that Eve and Espella from Professor Layton Vs Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney could have had them. There are no Psyche-Locks in that game at all, so it's impossible to tell, but their trauma and reaction to the traumatic event lines up exactly with what happened to Athena and her locks. Granted, they're not an ideal example because I can't prove they had the same Locks and evidence is everything in court. So while it's merely conjecture, it is a possibility.
- I understand what you mean. But my theory was that not actually the black locks but Athena's ability to experience such deep feelings and probably her ability to feel emotions coming from other people stronger than anyone else is inherited from Kristoph. Because her mother didn't have it and even tried to research it.
As we know there was a certain detective who looked quite similar and was involved in two crimes. Yes, it was Valerie Hawthorne. It was her who forced Ted Tonate to hide a truth about explosions. She faked her death twice and managed to create new identity. So what has really happened in Dusky Bridge? What motivated Valerie to do what she did? Even if she hated her father and loved Dahlia (but she didn't) she didn't have any reason to involve both (!) herself and her sister into the crime by faking a kidnapping and later shooting into innocent Terry Fawles being a detective herself. The point is she planned it all along. Since the conversation with Dahlia about the fake kidnapping she started to create her evil plan. She planned all along to let Dahlia fall from Dusky Bridge and then to hide her holding her in constant fear and nervousness which badly affected her sanity. After that she gave false testimony against Terry Fawles, and later before his execution she made the trailer which transferred him to break which let him loose. She knew that he would phone her. She told that she would meet him and told everything to Dahlia. She knew about the condition of her sanity and she knew that she would come there because it was what she had been planning all along. The meeting near the Dusky Bridge was quite different from what we thought it was. Dahlia actually met Valerie and talked with her. After that Valerie mocked her (using her ill condition) and forced Dahlia to attack herself. While planting into her arms the exact same knife which was found at the place of the crime. But it wasn't Valerie who she "pierced" It was prearranged corpse which she was carrying in her car all along. Dahlia was shocked by what happened. She never intended to kill anyone. She turned around and run crying never even bothering to look at the dead corpse which wasn't actually Valerie Hawthorne. And that was the beginning of insane monster called Dahlia Hawthorne. Yeah, this thought of Dahlia about killing her sister completely made her crazy and all her next murders were caused by this single event and were directed to clear the traces leading to the murder which she never did. And her life became a nightmare. What a good older sister she had, indeed. After that Valerie rearranged crime scene to make things even more messed up and left it. From that time she was never heard of... Until... Years later... A certain detective named Candice Arme was investigating the crime scene. The certain director named Yuri Cosmos and Candice Arme were the first people to walk up at the scene of the murder. What a good alibi! In fact it was her who killed Clay Terran, not Phantom. Because he never even had a need to do that to begin with because it could only cause more suspicions in his direction. All he need was to take moon rock from him which would be easier than taking candy from a baby. While what we saw - moon rock was still in possession of Clay Terran. And that was because Candice Arme who killed him couldn't care less about the moon rock. Actually it was her goal from very beginning to make Phantom (and all who investigate this case) a lot of troubles. That was only confirmed by the fact that she had a sweet talk with Tonate which resulted in court bombing. That wasn't Phantom. In fact Bobby was at the trial in that time. He never even had the time to plan the bombing let alone do it. After the court bombing Candice had a lot of fun by observing the consequences of it. The reason why moon rock stayed intact was because of her. She made sure that he did not turn to the dust. She planned to amuse herself watching prosecution and defence attorneys facing Phantom in the court. The reason why Fulbright started acting so strange in last cases was because he started to suspect that something strange was happening. There was Clay Terran who he never killed, and court bombing which he never did, both of them though were connected to a moon rock so he came to the conclusion that he could be suspected in the future. After that he started acting more kindly to let defence attorneys find the culprit as fast as possible. He didn't care of course if they would find the real culprit in the end or not. All he cared about was that he wouldn't be the one who falls under suspicion. But he still panicked. He thought that that trial could eventually lead to the incident that happened 7 years ago in which the real culprit was him. And because of that he brought the forged evidence in hope to end that trial as fast as possible. Sadly, it didn't give him much profit. In the end a certain guy was revealed as being Phantom and accused of two murders and court bombing while in fact he has done only one. While soon after that he was shot. So. Why did Candice Arme know Phantom identity? And what was her goal all along? And what if it was her who shot him in the end? And that could only mean that Candice Arme / Valerie Hawthorne in fact was a spy all along working for a rival organisation. Making her... The second Phantom!
- I always thought Arme more strongly resembled Calisto Yew. Maybe she's all of them?
- I have thought about it as well. She very well may be Calisto Yew. It actually fits her nature as she constantly changes disguises. So it is very likely that she has more than two disguises. So she could be Valerie Hawthorne, Calisto Yew, Shih-na, Candice Arme and even more people who we know nothing about. Even more it is very likely that Calisto Yew is a second Phantom.
- It goes further than that. Specifically, yew, hawthorn, willow (柳), and vine (葛) are all types of wood (willow and vine being found in the Japanese surnames for Hawthorne and Yew respectively, hence the kanji). The surnames also take on meaning if you look at J.K. Rowling's notes about the four woods for wands. They're worth discussing because she does base it off Celtic lore about woods and other stories about what kinds of woods do what. Hawthorn wands, she notes, are complex and contradictory. They can be used for healing and for cursing just as effectively as the other, and they can, notably, backfire. Yew is the wood used to make He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named's wand, and is said to, get this, imbue the user with the powers of life and death. Seems pretty fitting for a woman who seems to die and vanish a lot. Yew also has some of the more frequent associations with dark magic. Willow and Vine are likewise woods Rowling talks about. Ron and Hermione are notable users of willow and vine wands respectively. What's interesting to note about this is the fact that yew and hawthorn were used by people on the dark side, You-Know-Who and Draco Malfoy. Willow, Rowling notes, often picks people who have a great deal of potential and are known for doing advanced, non-verbal spells quite neatly. Vine wood users "seek a greater purpose, who have a vision beyond the ordinary and who frequently astound those who think they know them best." They're also attracted to people with "hidden depth". Both work pretty well for someone who never has the same face and personality twice. Yet another thing all four of those woods have in common is that they're all woods Rowling notes to be "uncommon" in wands. It's a pretty neat coincidence, I think, if it is indeed that. Calsito Yew and Valerie Hawthorne are also roughly the same height, a difference of 8cm, with Yew being the taller. Arme doesn't have a given height that I can find, and her Japanese name makes a pun similar to her English one, so she doesn't fit in as neatly as Hawthorne does with Yew. Hawthorne and Yew are also, interestingly, the same age (unless, of course, Yew lied about her age). Arme may not fit in, due to being 11 years younger than Yew and Hawthorne, but there's a definite, viable connection between Hawthorne and Yew. There's also the fact, between Yew and Hawthorne, that (if the identities are fake) they faked being the distraught older sister to a character who was supposed to have died. The best connection between Hawthorne and Arme is they're both detectives, with Yew likewise being in the legal profession as a attorney, and Yew's other identity, Shih-Na, being an agent of Interpol, which seems to be a lot like being a detective. Yew and Hawthorne also share relation to the two earliest cases we can play in the series, Turnabout Beginnings and Turnabout Reminiscence. Which, I guess, therein lies the real problem with this theory, unless Yew/Hawthorne was switching between the two personalities for years, since Yew and Hawthorne's timelines overlap from 2008 to 2011 (as we know Hawthorne existed from at least 2007 to 2012 and Yew was part of the Yatagarasu from 2008 to 2011).
- I have thought about it as well. She very well may be Calisto Yew. It actually fits her nature as she constantly changes disguises. So it is very likely that she has more than two disguises. So she could be Valerie Hawthorne, Calisto Yew, Shih-na, Candice Arme and even more people who we know nothing about. Even more it is very likely that Calisto Yew is a second Phantom.
- Maybe his Chords aren't his only part of his body made of Steel? :P
- This also ties in nicely with the usual beliefs regarding that number.
As seen in Professor Layton Vs Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney british government played a major role in almost everything and used illegal means to achieve a needed result. They used simple people as test subjects and brainwashed them for testing unique only to Labyrinthia ink and a water. It is highly possible that they did the exact same thing with Phantom, brainwashing him and making him forget everything about his real identity, this also explains his identity crysis. To keep effect constantly they most likely handled him a quill or a pen with the same ink which they used to brainwash people So every time he wrote something during his job, impersonating someone, the ink effect was renewed, and prevented him from regaining his concious and real memories. After he was sent to custody in the end of DD, he can't use his pen/quill anymore, so he will eventually regain his memories in the new game, and this will be the crucial moment which leads the main cast to eventually bringing down the main villain of next main AA game.
This idea was inspired by a fanfic but thinking about the circumstances it seems somewhat plausible in canon as well. Case 5 happens over a very short span of time (the investigation section only lasts...maybe about two-and-a-half to three hours at most before the trial segment begins). So Phoenix and Trucy visit the Space Center's museum, run into Juniper, return to the gate to talk to Director Cosmos, go visit Ted Tonate at the Detention Center, visit the robotics lab and Aura, and then Trucy returns to the Space Center to try and talk to Apollo where she winds up taken hostage thereafter (the call about the hostage situation comes during the scene at the Detention Center after talking to Simon and during the discussion with Fulbright, which must only be about 45 minutes to an hour after the visit to the Space Museum). Juniper may never have left the Space Center between running into Phoenix and Aura rounding up the hostages (since the hostage taking would have had to happen before she notified the police that she was holed up in the Space Museum).
- Alternately, she met him along with Edgeworth when the latter was investigating ways to reopen the UR-1 incident. He didn't say the ninja was a fellow prisoner.
- At maximum noise due to falsifying testimony or emotion, the metaphorical radio is tuned nearly halfway up to the next frequency on the radio. This is because the person is trying to drown out their real emotions with fake ones, and a higher frequency will drown out a lower one. Athena has to 'tune down' the radio to get the real emotions. The fake emotions sit on top of the noise as they try and drown out both the noise and their real feelings. You tune the radio down because the real emotions are under the noise.
- At maximum noise where the person is just mistaken, like Mayor Tenma, the radio is nearly halfway tuned down to the previous frequency and the radio has to be tuned up. This is because they're not consciously hiding their real emotions, so the real emotions are sitting on top of the noise waiting to be found, while the false emotions generated by the false memory are under the noise. The radio is tuned up to bring out the real emotions sitting on top of the noise.
- However, there are two exceptions. One is Apollo, the other is the phantom. Apollo masks his real feelings with a lack of emotion, and the phantom masks his emotionless true self with fake emotions. THEY have the radio dial tuned firmly to the dead centre between two stations. Hence why the others are "nearly"; you can always tell what direction to turn the dial to in the other situations. However, when one half denies emotion, it's harder to pick up on, especially if emotionlessness is the base feeling, for which you don't even have to fake anything. Emotionlessness makes it hard to tell which side of the noise the 'real' emotions are on, making it hard to hear what direction the 'radio' needs to be tuned to. This state also generates more noise to compensate for the emotionlessness, making the lack of emotion hard to hear and hard to pinpoint if it's the real feeling or the false one. People can lose the ability to feel emotions if they experience something as distressing as someone they care about being murdered, at least for a while. Apollo is stated to be cold, distant, "dark and mysterious", and his mannerisms in court suggest he's mostly cut himself off from emotion. Athena has to talk to them a bit more and really listen her hardest to pick out what's under the noise.
- He was specifically hired to wound the Phantom, and not kill him, which would lend weight to all the conspiracy theories above, or:
- He missed. de Killer's gotta be getting old now. Maybe his eyesight's going and he couldn't hit the Phantom with a killshot, what with all his flailing around on the witness stand. Maybe he'll be looking for his successor sometime in the near future?
- He was specifically hired to wound the Phantom, and not kill him, which would lend weight to all the conspiracy theories above, or:
- The problem with this theory is that it basically implies that the entirety of the Cosmic Turnabout was essentially useless, since anyone could just reveal the truth at any time and things would have ended the same way. The robots are also hardly life-life enough to stand in for Clay's corpse, and anyone would be able to tell the difference. This would also imply that evidence like the autopsy report which clearly stated that Clay was dead was directly faked, and that they were going through with pushing at what was basically false charges. I don't know about you, but that just doesn't seem like something Edgeworth would allow to me. Getting a coroner to forge autopsy results is a serious crime, and if we're basically trying tos say that all of this was basically just a conspiracy that was kept hush-hush between certain people, it'd be very, very illegal. Not to mention, it's kinda morally dubious as well, when it comes to what it ends up doing to Starbuck and Athena, and Apollo. Not to mention, making up the fact that someone's died to catch someone out is a major case of entrapment, and there's no way that'd be allowed on any legal level. Not even in the Ace Attorney world and even with the Chief Prosecutor's backing. (If I recall Myriam directly mentions the entrapment objection at one point, so it definitely exists in this world)
- The OP is probably suggesting this since Clay's death is rather peculiar, there already was a conspiracy going on, and how everyone at the station but Starbuck acted pretty weird about Clay's death. It doesn't really matter what it does to Starbuck, Athena, or Apollo because this isn't about the meta "why would the game makers do this". It's about a quick-thinking plan by Arme, Aura, and Cosmos to save Clay's life and protect him from the phantom without real thought to how it would affect anyone else. If word got out that Clay had been saved, the phantom would no doubt go for him again. So only Arme, Aura, a coroner, and Cosmos knew Clay had been saved. People faking their deaths isn't unusual for this series and we know some coroners aren't above faking an autopsy report, because that's how Manfred got a black mark on his record. It's likely Edgeworth didn't know unless he has a very good reason for concealing the fact Clay isn't dead, but it's still possible Cosmos, Arme, and Aura faked Clay's death with the help of a coroner. Also, the Cosmic Turnabout wouldn't be "useless" since they did find out who murdered Metis Cykes and that Bobby Fulbright is (hypothetically) dead. He's one who could also still be alive, since Edgeworth only says he's dead and the phantom isn't charged with Fulbright's murder.