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Sorting Hat Chats Database

"Two friends wanted to know exactly what the other meant when they said 'Gryffindor'. Over hours of conversation, the Sorting Hat Chats system emerged and has delighted them ever since."

See here for much more information of this Harry Potter Hogwarts House sorting system of Inky and Kat's creation.

Main terms in a nutshell

• Primaries are the MOTIVES. WHY does one do things?
  • Gryffindor Primary (Lion Prime, GP): Moral intuition (they decide what's righteous with their heart)
  • Hufflepuff Primary (Badger Prime, HP): Sense of community (they wish to improve the lives of all whom they regard as "people")
  • Ravenclaw Primary (Bird Prime, RP): Systems of values (they build their logic from the outside world)
  • Slytherin Primary (Snake Prime, SP): Individualist allegiances (they prioritize people they are closest to)
• Secondaries are the METHODS. HOW does one do things?
  • Gryffindor Secondary (Lion Second, GS): Stubbornness and courage (will kick a locked door down)
  • Hufflepuff Secondary (Badger Second, HS): Hard work and reliability (will knock on a locked door)
  • Ravenclaw Secondary (Bird Second, RS): Planning and knowledge (will have the corresponding key)
  • Slytherin Secondary (Snake Second, SS): Adaptability and cunning (will decide to pick the lock)
• A model is a way of life that has been learned by someone and can be comfortably used, but isn't central to the extent of true primaries and secondaries.
• A performance is one's ability to convincingly look like a different primary and/or secondary.
• Burning is when someone is unable to use their primary or secondary.
• Exploding is when someone takes a primary or secondary to an unhealthy extent.

Important Notes

• Contrary to the names, secondaries are no less important than primaries; they are just different aspects of a person.
• No primary or secondary is inherently better or worse than others. Any of them can be very healthy or very unhealthy, any of them can be immature or developed, and any of them can be used for immense evil... or immense good.
• All the qualities mentioned above exist to varying degrees in all sapient beings. However, a true primary consists of the motives one finds their moral core in, and a true secondary consists of the methods one regards as the most optimal to them.
  • For example, someone who is hardworking and fair could be putting up a model and/or performance, and thus isn't necessarily a Badger Secondary. However, someone who genuinely values Badger Second qualities, whether or not they can use said qualities well, is likely a Badger Second.
• The basic Primary and Secondary houses are summarized starting places used as a basis for further exploration. Each House has its own vast range of possibilities outside the traditional "stereotypes".
  • This means that not all Gryffindors are loudly emotional, not all Hufflepuffs are nice or caring, not all Ravenclaws are logical intellectuals, and not all Slytherins are ungenerous or manipulative.

House Pairings

• Idealist vs Loyalist: Lion and Bird Primes focus on concepts of what is right, while Badger and Snake Primes are heavily people-driven.
• Constructed vs Felt: Bird and Snake Primes prioritize systems of motivations, while Lion and Badger Primes are much more in touch with their gut feelings.
• Internal vs External: Lion and Snake Primes derive their morals from within themselves, while Badger and Bird Primes derive them from external circumstances.
• Solid vs Fluid: Lion and Bird Seconds are relatively static and stable in their abilities, while Badger and Snake Seconds are often more flexible in how they act to reach their goals.
• Situational vs Inspirational: Bird and Snake Seconds succeed heavily in solving problems and predicaments, while Lion and Badger Seconds more commonly utilize their own persistence and rally others.
• Improvisers vs Builders: Lion and Snake Seconds jump into the middle of adversary and react on the fly, while Badger and Bird Seconds utilize whatever they have already brought with them.
• Thus...
  • Lion Primes FEEL their IDEALS from the INSIDE.
  • Badger Primes FEEL their LOYALTIES from the OUTSIDE.
  • Bird Primes CONSTRUCT their IDEALS from the OUTSIDE.
  • Snake Primes CONSTRUCT their LOYALTIES from the INSIDE.
  • Lion Seconds INSPIRE by IMPROVISING in SOLID ways.
  • Badger Seconds INSPIRE by BUILDING in FLUID ways.
  • Bird Seconds SITUATE by BUILDING in SOLID ways.
  • Snake Seconds SITUATE by IMPROVISING in FLUID ways.

Fictional Examples

• Some ground rules:
  • If you change an example that someone else posted, please show your reasoning in the Discussion thread to avoid Edit Wars.
  • If you sort a character somewhere that others would find odd, add as much additional justification in a note next to the name as needed.
  • If a character uses at least one model and/or performance that overshadows their true house combo, sort the character with the primary and secondary they truly value.
  • Sort examples for each combo by work name's alphabetical order — except for Harry Potter canon, which always goes first.
  • List any sources other than your own brain at the bottom of the folder.
  • Just like DnD alignments, examples of Sorting Hat Chats house combos are rather subjective. Please avoid Entry Pimping them outside any future works where this system is canonical.
  • Avoid sorting one-note characters whose genuine Primaries and Secondaries could be anything. People's urge to take care of their loved ones is as strong as their urge to sit on chairs, but only a fraction of such people find their moral core in close bonds and thus are Snake Primes.
  • Mark ALL major spoilers, except true house combos.
  • Lighter spoilers and all true house combo locations are unmarked. You Have Been Warned.

• Double Lion: Ron Weasley^note burned GP in later books, Gilderoy Lockhart^spoiler!a parody of this combo, uses a badly done RS performance to fool people, Rufus Scrimgeour^note HS model or performance, Susie^note SS model, Flonne, Saber^spoiler!formerly burned GP/GS, Kel, Glimmer, Garnet

• Lion Badger: Neville Longbottom^spoiler!GS model, Peter Pettigrew^note a pretty nasty parody of this combo!, Barty Crouch Sr.^note models RS; is ruthless fighting the dark arts as he believes is the right thing to do, also thrives with the support of the community and falls without it, Tsukasa Hiiragi^note exploded RS model on occasion; please, she's trying her best, Papyrus

• Lion Bird: Hermione Granger, Lord Voldemort^spoiler!SS model whenever his plans are foiled, derived his twisted ideals from his inner Mortality Phobia and viewed his closest followers as expendable, Alastor Moody^note GS model, Exploded secondary later on his life, Sybill Trelawney, Arthur Weasley, Percy Weasley, Aragorn^note HP model, Bow, Connie Maheswaran

• Lion Snake: Albus Dumbledore^note RS model, Gellert Grindelwald^spoiler!GS model or performance, charismatic and ralies large crowds to his cause, Fred Weasley^note SP and RS models, Toph Beifong, Rin Tezuka^spoiler!unhealthy GS performance at one point, James Kirk^note GS model as Federation Captain

• Badger Lion: Katara, Zuko^note former exploded GS, Rin Tohsaka^note RP performance, RS model, Beorn, Adora/She-Ra, Leonard McCoy, Spock^note Vulcan RP/RS model and performance, formerly to the damnedest of his ability, Obi-Wan Kenobi^note HS model, initial HP/HS performance, Steven Quartz Universe^{Future spoiler!}has recently struggled with an exploded and then burned HS model, Amethyst, Undyne^note SP model

• Double Badger: Draco Malfoy^note SP/SS model or performance, view of "people" somewhat limited to the purest of blood, Rubeus Hagrid, Cedric Diggory, Dolores Umbridge^note SS model, only loyal to the ministry and feigns being who she is not to get in important positions, Cornelius Fudge^spoiler!initially exploded HS, Shirou Emiya^note GP model, Archer^spoiler!burned HP, lost GP model, Shizune Hakamichi^note GP/GS model, and despite her stern attitude is the only major character in her home series who actively tries to make many friends, Boromir, Hero^spoiler!temporarily burned HP/HS, Rose Quartz

• Badger Bird: Newt Scamander^note RP model that he uses most of the time when he's not interacting with his fantastic beasts, Vernon Dursley^note dehumanizes some random people for petty reasons, but is loyal to those who fulfill his obsession with normalcy, Penny Haywood, Miyuki Takara

• Badger Snake: Sayori, Wander

• Bird Lion: Harry Potter^note SS model, Lily Evans, Ozai^note SS model, adopted the perception of the Fire Lord's authority as above all else

• Bird Badger: Luna Lovegood, Dudley Dursley^note SP performance, Charlie Weasley, Monika^spoiler!but upon gaining Medium Awareness is actually an SS with an HS model and performance

• Double Bird: Quirinus Quirrell^note collected knowledge and theory of the dark arts; also burned his primary, if Pottermore is to be believed, Sokka, Hanako Ikezawa, Gandalf, Saruman^spoiler!His Exploded RP led to his Face–Heel Turn, Entrapta, Pearl^spoiler!unhealthy and burned SP model, Seth^spoiler!burned both his primary and secondary after his return on SF V, Sans

• Bird Snake: Kingsley Shacklebolt^note HS model, Zōken Matō, Bilbo Baggins, Konata Izumi, Scotty^note GP/GS model

• Snake Lion: Sirius Black, Ginny Weasley, Molly Weasley^note HS model or performance, Fleur Delacour, Sakura Matō^note HS model, Thorin Oakenshield, Emi Ibarazaki^spoiler!burned SP, exploding GS, Aubrey, Catra^note burned GS, SS model, Anakin Skywalker, Han Solo

• Snake Badger: Horace Slughorn, Lilly Satou, Basil, Bella Swan^note exploded SP for pretty much the entire series, Asgore Dreemurr^spoiler!reluctant HP performance

• Snake Bird: Severus Snape^spoiler!as a double agent, lives on his SS model or performance; seems to have constructed a GP model to morally interact with the world later on his life, George Weasley^note GP and SS models, Bill Weasley^note possible GP model or performance, Shinji Matō^note burned SP, Sunny^note probable HP model, Sheev Palpatine^note particularly dark SP out of a desire for control over an apprentice

• Double Snake: Avatar Aang^note HP model and performance, views the safety of his close friends and sanctity of his lost culture as nigh-paramount, Azula^spoiler!burned SP in the Grand Finale, and how!, Rider, Grunkle Stan

• Sources: https://web.archive.org/web/20190421200632/http://sortinghatchats.tumblr.com/masterpost, https://wisteria-lodge.tumblr.com/post/622942228102414339/wrt-to-sortinghatchats-what-means-burned, https://sortinghatchats.tumblr.com/archive, https://wisteria-lodge.tumblr.com/, https://wisteria-lodge.tumblr.com/post/636774847399297024/my-explanation-of-the-sorting-hat-chats-system, https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zMOyVaMXsXgfBbRMf0aJRDBo1potfozDb3nV03aOIs4/edit#heading=h.3013l5kh05z3, https://machikurada.tumblr.com/post/184757837598/fatesortinghatchats-stay-night-edition

Troper Examples

• This quiz can take between 10 and 180 minutes, depending on how much you argue with it.^note You should be honest with it, but yes, you can argue with it. The wizard chooses the House.
  • Please avoid altering anyone's house combo or additional interactions beside your own.
  • Sort tropers for each combo by alphabetical order.

• Double Lion:

• Lion Badger:

• Lion Bird: AquaEclipse^note Burned primary with HS Model YouthD48^note Burned primary with Snake model

• Lion Snake:

• Badger Lion:

• Double Badger:

• Badger Bird:

• Badger Snake:

• Bird Lion:

• Bird Badger:

• Double Bird: Azdraan^note SS model with a GP performance, dynamicDiscovery^note HP and GS models, Green Lizard 9^note Burned primary and secondary, HP and SS models, The Troping Alliancer^note Burned Primary with GP and SS Model, OC Lily is a Burned GP with SS Model

• Bird Snake: Herman J Sparks

• Snake Lion:

• Snake Badger:

• Snake Bird:

• Double Snake: cottonblossoms^note burned exploded prime, burned second, unhealthy bird prime model, lion second model, unhealthy badger second model

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