Fear of hell? See a priest
- If everyone's so afraid of hell, why don't they just ask a priest to forgive them?
- Not to go on a fundamentalist rant, but that simply isn't the way divine judgement works. Acknowledging your sins and the fact that they were in fact sins and working to make amends for them is a vital part of redemption in most versions of Christianity. In short, a priest can only forgive The Atoner... which perhaps makes the ending poetic...
- Implicitly Pretentious
had a perspective where nobody really wanted to repent for all the evil they did. They just wanted to sin their way out of their predicament. So much like the primal sin, Pride made them go after a trinket than actually take a hard look at themselves and try to repent anew.
Zoom should have died the moment he got the card
- Why doesn't Zoom just let himself die the moment he gets the card? He can't actually live that much longer, and every second he delays risks him losing the card. It's a major moment of idiocy to me that he runs around trying to dodge Frosts ice-daggers.
- Presumably because letting go of yourself to death is a tad hard to do willingly, especially for someone like Zoom.
- Frost's projectiles would probably not have been enough to kill him instantly; if he's incapacitated, someone could take the card away before he dies.
- Zoom himself said he was "good for one last hit of speed" during his battle with Deadshot, so what exactly was stopping him from just running off somewhere a few kilometers away and burning himself out? Definitely a moment of idiocy for him... though, in fairness, a good chunk of his brain was missing at the time.
Speed Force
- If Zoom was still alive and actively using the Speed Force to remain alive, how come Flash was able to use it to travel back in Flashpoint? The entire point was that it is impossible with two users.
- They acknowledge that at the end, when his corpse disappears and we see again his death at the hands of the Flashpoint Batman. His appearance in this film might be because he forces himself to travel/vibrate through time just at the same time the bullet hits him, searching desperately for some sort of solution. In the end he doesn't accomplish anything: the Zoom of this movie is killed, ending up being just a remnant from another timeline, unaffecting his original death in Flashpoint and thus alowing Flash to travel back in time.
Zoom recruiting accomplices
- How did Zoom recruit Silver Banshee and Blockbuster exactly? He did mention promising them time travel and an island respectively, but if his plan is to die immediately after getting the card, how would he go though with those promises? If he was just lying, shouldn't Banshee at-least know better than to trust a well known psychopathic serial killer?
- Zoom says how Banshee wants him to travel back in time and Blockbuster wants his own island. So they both have desires he promises to fulfill. Of course, you can't dismiss the idea that Banshee and Blockbuster were planning to betray Zoom, just like Frost did.
Vandal Savage powers
- Doesn't this Vandal Savage have a healing factor like Wolverine? Other incarnations of him are shown to have this. You can slit his throat, and it will instantly heal.
- Zoom says Savage is a "fast healer", so yes, he most likely has a strong healing factor. But in many characters, healing factors can "burn out," where the body takes so much damage it can't heal fast enough. It can be assumed Savage's healing factor has limits.
Two bad guys hot for each other
- What do Jewelee and Count Vertigo see in each other? I find it odd a Punch and Judy character wanting to hook up with a Count Dracula looking dude. Isn't that like Harley Quinn betraying Joker for Ras Al Ghul?
- Vertigo offered Jewelee a ton of cash upon release. We see Jewelee and Punch making out, but it seems more like that mall-make out sort of thing, where two people are just making out to show off. Alternatively, Jewelee was the Joker in that relationship, the one with all the power and the dominant influence.
How does the card work?
- How does that card work exactly? You're telling me if you die, God will look at your card and open the gate for you despite you being a serial killer who murdered millions? So the big guy in the sky will let you off the hook just because you are holding a magic item?
- Yes. I'm not quite what more to say. Yes, that is clearly established as to what happens if you die holding the card.
- Nabu made it clear that the card was his prized possession. So, maybe the card's purpose was to give a tragic figure who did bad things for the right reasons a shot at heaven? On the other hand, we only hear about the card from Nabu, who while a god, isn't the God, so St. Peter may still have the final say on the matter. The card just really helps.
- Devil is not gonna let you in Hell anyway, demons are bound by rules (half how Constantine trick them) so avoiding damnation is already promised and even if God somehow bothered with that one case you just don't get rewards of a honest life.
- Perhaps the Card is actually worthless as God won't allow anyone unworthy to die with it in his possession.
How does the card work? Part 2
- So mechanics-wise, how exactly is the Card supposed to work? How does anyone actually know it works, if the only way to test it is to die with it in your possession and see for yourself where you end up?
- The mechanics dictate how it works, so everyone followed it. And as seen, people were willing to do anything to get their hands on it.
Nabu chose an idiot to be Dr Fate
- Why would Nabu choose Steel Maxum as Dr. Fate? Judging from his flashbacks, he is not worthy of the helmet. Why grant this bumbling, immoral, comedic character super powers?
- Rule of Funny.
- More seriously, from what little we see of him acting as Dr. Fate, he was really good at the job, even with his massive ego. He listed his credentials. The only problem with him is that he couldn't keep it in his pants. And when Nabu realized the problem he swiftly corrected it.
- It's implied that because Steel wasn't good on brains, he was possessed by Nabu for his body. The problem is once Steel was acting on his own, he got in trouble.
Black Manta's fate
- Didn't Black Manta die at the end of Throne of Atlantis?
- It's a case of Never Found the Body. We did see Manta get seized by the shark and yanked back into the water, but we never see if there were any torn limbs or even a skeleton came out of the other end.
