History TheScrappy / FinalFantasy

** Most of a Scions are seen as largely useless groups of pixels there to spout words at you to explain why you're off to fight Garuda, entirely without their assistance, for the upteenth time. Y'Shtola is tolerated because she occasionally lifts and finger to help, and Yda and Papalymo are liked because of their interactions being funny, and once again, occasionally making themselves useful. The rest just kind of sit in the corner, talk funny, and collect dust.

* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'':

* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'': Seymour also tends to be fan's least favorite villain. Largely because [[RecurringBoss no matter how many times you hand him his ass, he ''just won't die'']].

* Fans started a Scrappydom ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyI all the way back]]'', with the Black Belt/Master class. Mind you, the BB was actually ''stronger'' than the Warrior ([[Webcomic/EightBitTheater who likes swords]]), but its defenses were negligible, as equipping armor reduced its attack power. After becoming Master, while the class becomes even ''more'' powerful, it lacks the ability to use magic when both rival classes, Knight and Ninja, can.

** [[GlassCannon Tellah]] also has quite a hatedom for having an extremely low mana pool [[spoiler:which prevents him from casting Meteor before the plot-appropriate moment]].

* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'' has so many characters on the player's side that are almost universally hated, one wonders if it was intentional. Chief among them is Alphinaud, who doesn't do anything but talk, and talk, and goddamn talk, always in a smug and condescending manner. He bosses everyone around, never actually ''does'' anything remotely productive, and is generally a completely useless, insufferable git that ''everyone'' wants to see turn evil just so they can kill the little shit. Making matters worse is that he first appears condescending to his much more likeable sister about how her plans to uncover the truth of the past are unproductive and stupid. It turns out that what she's doing is clearly more important than Alphinaud's space wasting. However, this is (somewhat) fixed in the 'Heavensward' expansion, which has Alphinaud take a more active role in the story - including fighting alongside you.

* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'' has so many characters on the player's side that are almost universally hated, one wonders if it was intentional. Chief among them is Alphinaud, who doesn't do anything but talk, and talk, and goddamn talk, always in a smug and condescending manner. He bosses everyone around, never actually ''does'' anything remotely productive, and is generally a completely useless, insufferable git that ''everyone'' wants to see turn evil just so they can kill the little shit. Making matters worse is that he first appears condescending to his much more likeable sister about how her plans to uncover the truth of the past are unproductive and stupid. It turns out that what she's doing is clearly more important than Alphinaud's space wasting.

* Fans started a Scrappydom ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyI all the way back]]'', with the Black Belt/Master class. Mind you, the BB was actually ''stronger'' than the Warrior ([[Webcomic/EightBitTheater who likes swords]]), but it's defenses were negligable, as equipping armor reduced it's attack power, and after becoming Master, while it becomes even ''more'' powerful, it lacks the ability to use either Black or White magic that the Knight and Ninja classes gained.

** Edward/Gilbart, a bard (the [[TropeNamer original]] SpoonyBard) has a major HeroicBSOD after his fiancee and parents are killed and not reacting in a way fans approved (apparently it's ridiculous to be shattered after the sudden death of your loved ones). He does happen to be very useful at one point [[spoiler:playing the Twin Harp to enable you to use metal weapons against the Dark Elf]], but that's not enough for the fanbase. The DS re-release did tweak his abilities, making him much more useful.

** Two characters are regularly dismissed as Scrappies: Quina, who was supposed to be the comic relief but came off as useless due to the fact s/he was essentially a [[PowerCopying Blue Mage]] with a gimmicky way of learning spells and a borderline useless [[LimitBreak Trance]] that only contributed toward it instead of making him/her more useful in combat and being repulsive due to looking like a clown with a gigantic tongue and acting like Jar Jar, and Eiko, who was much more useful but even more annoying due to her clingy personality as well as being a BrattyHalfPint. Quina is an interesting case, in that s/he could learn [[MagikarpPower some of the best offensive and defensive abilities]] in the game ([[GuideDangIt provided you know where to look]]), to the point many vets consider him/her the best character in the game. Thus, you have a lot of players who love the hellraiser who can double the party's defenses, heal like a White Mage, and dish out 9999 damage for a measly 8 MP. - but hate the ugly fat thing that contributes nothing to the plot and won't shut up about eating things.

* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'': Seymour also tends to be fan's least favorite villain. Largely due to the fact that [[RecurringBoss no matter how many times you hand him his ass, he ''just won't die'']].

** Relm also gets some unjustified hate. A lot of people generally tend to put her aside because by the time she joins, [[CantCatchUp the player had a lot more time to build up other characters and would usually stick to the people who have way more magic than Relm does]], her Sketch ability is rather [[GameBreakingBug Broken]], or [[GoodBadBug useful only once]]. She actually ''does'' make a very good mage, having better magic stats than even Terra and Celes with proper equipment, but many people prefer to stick with them because they've had them for longer (or because Relm's physical stats are pretty bad).

* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX''
** Two characters are regularly dismissed as Scrappies: Quina, who was supposed to be the comic relief but came off as useless due to the fact s/he was essentially a [[PowerCopying Blue Mage]] with a gimmicky way of learning spells and a borderline useless [[LimitBreak Trance]] that only contributed toward it instead of making him/her more useful in combat and being repulsive due to looking like a clown with a gigantic tongue and acting like Jar Jar, and Eiko, who was much more useful but even more annoying due to her clingy personality as well as being a BrattyHalfPint.
*** Quina is an interesting case, in that s/he could learn [[MagikarpPower some of the best offensive and defensive abilities]] in the game ([[GuideDangIt provided you know where to look]]), to the point many vets consider him/her the best character in the game. Thus, you have a lot of players who love the hellraiser who can double the party's defenses, heal like a White Mage, and dish out 9999 damage for a measly 8 MP. - but hate the ugly fat thing that contributes nothing to the plot and won't shut up about eating things.
** On the villains' side, Zorn and Thorn, Queen Brahne's MonsterClown CreepyTwins henchmen, also annoy a lot of players for their bizarre mannerisms and their tendency to repeat each other constantly. On the plus side, they end up {{Not So Harmless Villain}}s and provide a good boss battle.
*** Except they keep giving a status effect that won't let you gain AP from them, which is vital for permanently learning skills.
** In recent years, Freya Crescent has gained a disproportionate amount of hate simply for being a rat-woman who attracts attention from the the UsefulNotes/FurryFandom.

* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII'': Vaan. While he is the main character of the game, he has little involvement in the story, and becomes nothing more than a TagalongKid shortly into the game.
** His very existence means that the more popular Ashe/Basch/Balthier cannot be the main character. Imagine having your favorite character thrown out of the spotlight by somebody completely pointless? Also if you're tired of the usual pretty-boy RPG hero, Vaan falls right into that cliche ''hard''. Or even worse, realizing that not only are the previously mentioned important players tossed aside, but there are GuestStarPartyMember characters like Reddas and Larsa who contribute more to the plot than Vaan.
** Also, Penelo falls into Scrappy status by association: she is Vaan's best friend and ''also'' shoehorned into the story without actually contributing much at all. It's worth noting, though, that both Vaan and Penelo got RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap in the spin-off games ''Revenant Wings'' and ''Tactics A-2'', in which they got cooler designs AND actual story involvement.
*** Still, it's worth remembering that they get more development in a pseudo-sequel and spin-off than the game they ostensibly star in.

* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'': Some people don't like Selphie due to her being somewhat of an {{Airhead}} and {{Cloud Cuckoolander}} at times, like in the prison. The party encounters a moomba early in the prison, and Selphie suggest eating it. She often exhibits other ditzy behavior, like running after Seifer during the first SEED mission and jumping off of a cliff.

* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII''
** Hope Estheim was already disliked long before the game's release ([[http://gameinformer.com/games/final_fantasy_xiii/b/xbox360/archive/2009/09/30/preview.aspx even Game Informer magazine took a diss on him at one point]]). This might have something to do with his looking exactly like Tidus and Vaan. Now the game is out, and the hatedom is pretty much set.
*** Although, this only seems to apply to the first game. He's actually considered to be an EnsembleDarkhorse in XIII-2 due to being [[ShesAllGrownUp older]] and [[KidHeroAllGrownUp wiser]] (thus making a [[FanPreferredCouple Lightning/Hope pairing]] more plausible) and being the leader of the Academy, which essentially makes him ''[[TookALevelInBadass leader of mankind.]]'' There's a bit of a BrokenBase when it comes to the third game, in which he's back to being a kid (although with the mind of his older incarnation).
** Vanille and Snow. Vanille's relentless childish demeanor or rather act and high pitched voice get on a lot of people's nerves and Snow's every line consists of the words "hero" "Serah" and "protect".

** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'':

** To a lesser extent, there's [[LethalJokeCharacter Gau]], who was RaisedByWolves. He can become [[DiscOneNuke incredibly powerful]] [[LethalJokeCharacter when raised correctly]], and many FFVI veterans consider Gau one of the best characters to use in [[SelfImposedChallenge Natural magic runs and Low Level games.]] However, training him properly takes quite some time, as does learning to use him correctly, and once you pick a monster for him to mimic, he's stuck like that for the rest of the battle which he spends by randomly using 2 of the attacks assigned to that monster. Thus many less-than-hardcore gamers never bother to use him at all. All in all he could be a mini-BaseBreaker.

%%* Aerith (Aeris for the oldschool) from ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' has been known to be [[BrokenBase worshiped by some players and attract the most acidic of bile from others]]. Whether it's the allegations of CanonSue-dom, the timeless LoveTriangle bitterness, or just the [[PlayerPunch gamer's ache]] from having a free healer ripped from you at an unexpected moment, those who hate Aerith hate her ''hard''. In short, she's a BaseBreaker if there ever was one.
* Yuffie is the former TropeNamer for the [[SoLongAndThanksForAllTheGear Wutai Theft]] whose affection points are gained generally by being mean to [[ChildhoodFriendRomance Tifa]], [[MysteriousWaif Aerith]] and [[GayOption Barrett]]. She is also a BrattyHalfPint and rather arrogant about her Ninja status, and her joining conditions is a little GuideDangIt - people will get stuff stolen from them before getting her to join. As of late though, she's been largely RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap due to maturing, though there are many who liked her just fine originally.
** She's also often RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap by virtue of being very, very useful - she has the only LimitBreak besides Aerith ([[AndZoidberg and Cait Sith]]) that can heal the entire party, and her offensive Limit Breaks are nothing to sneeze at either. She, like Aerith, is a BaseBreaker.

* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII'' Rinoa. [[AmericansHateTingle At least in America]]. Partly due to shippers, partly due to her being comatose, possessed, or otherwise needing rescue for the most of the game, and partly due to one of her early character moments having her insist on acting on a bad idea, thus forcing the player to do one of the most irritating dungeon crawls of the game. By the end of it, she's possibly [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap saved]] by merit of [[spoiler: becoming a GameBreaker sorceress.]]
** Also, some people don't like Selphie due to her being somewhat of an {{Airhead}} and {{Cloud Cuckoolander}} at times, like in the prison. The party encounters a moomba early in the prison, and Selphie suggest eating it. She often exhibits other ditzy behavior, like running after Seifer during the first SEED mission and jumping off of a cliff.

* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyX'':
** It seems that [[BrokenBase 50% of all the people who have played]] it are left with a searing pathological, if not psychotic hatred of the protagonist, Tidus, due to his endless whining, ridiculous outfit, and generally annoying voice. Not to mention the laughing scene, though technically Yuna talked him into that (and it was ''supposed'' to sound forced and awkward).
** Seymour also tends to be fan's least favorite villain. Largely due to the fact that [[RecurringBoss no matter how many times you hand him his ass, he ''just won't die'']].

** Lightning to most ''Versus XIII'' fans. Since most focus from [[FanNickname Sqeenix]] nowadays is on her trilogy, fans are angry at her for *quote* [[SpotlightStealingSquad getting in the way of its development and release]] *unquote*. Considering how ''Versus'' is shunted to the side in favour of her games in most interviews it's not hard to see why the hate is there.
** Now that ''Versus XIII'' is officially ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXV'', they won't need to grumble as much about it being shunted anymore. Especially since the trailer announcing it in E3 2013 also implied that it was "a world in the Versus Epic."
** As a matter of fact, even the very patient and rational-minded part of those fans isn't safe even although they are kinda okay with her (deep down they'll admit to some hatred but they at least play her games or read about the story on Final Fantasy Wiki if they don't). These fans (either neutral to, okay with or fans of Lightning) are more frustrated/jealous/irritated with the fact that while her games get regular news and updates while ''Versus'' tends to go through news blackouts. The average response from them is a "Yes, yes. Lightning has a new game. What about ''Versus''?" with many arguing they'd be okay with waiting if more information was given on the game, if Sqeenix explained about XIV earlier, more gameplay trailers are shown or releasing ''VideoGame/{{Final Fantasy Type0}}'' to tide them over.

* [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII Rinoa]]. [[AmericansHateTingle At least in America]]. Partly due to shippers, partly due to her being comatose, possessed, or otherwise needing rescue for the most of the game, and partly due to one of her early character moments having her insist on acting on a bad idea, thus forcing the player to do one of the most irritating dungeon crawls of the game. By the end of it, she's possibly [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap saved]] by merit of [[spoiler: becoming a GameBreaker sorceress.]]

** In recent years, Freya Crescent has gained a disproportionate amount of hate simply for being a rat-woman who attracts attention from the the FurryFandom.

** Hope Estheim was already disliked long before the game's release ([[http://gameinformer.com/games/final_fantasy_xiii/b/xbox360/archive/2009/09/30/preview.aspx even Game Informer magazine took a dis on him at one point]]). This might have something to do with his looking exactly like Tidus and Vaan. Now the game is out, and the hatedom is pretty much set.

** She's also often RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap by virtue of being very, very useful - she has the only LimitBreak besides Aerith ([[AndZoidberg And Cait Sith]]) that can heal the entire party, and her offensive Limit Breaks are nothing to sneeze at either. She, like Aerith, is a BaseBreaker.

*** Although, this only seems to apply to the first game. He's actually considered to be an EnsembleDarkhorse in XIII-2 due to being older and wiser (thus making a [[FanPreferredCouple Lightning/Hope pairing]] more plausible) and being the leader of the Academy, which essentially makes him ''[[TookALevelInBadass leader of mankind.]]'' There's a bit of a BrokenBase when it comes to the third game, in which he's back to being a kid (although with the mind of his older incarnation).

** Two characters are regularly dismissed as Scrappies: Quina, who was supposed to be the comic relief but came off as useless due to the fact s/he was essentially a [[PowerCopying Blue Mage]] with a gimmicky way of learning spells and a borderline useless [[LimitBreak Trance]] that only contributed toward it instead of making him/her more useful in combat and being repulsive due to looking like a clown with a gigantic tongue, and Eiko, who was much more useful but even more annoying due to her clingy personality as well as being a BrattyHalfPint.

** She's also often RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap by virtue of being very, very useful - she has the only LimitBreak besides Aeris ([[AndZoidberg And Cait Sith]]) that can heal the entire party, and her offensive Limit Breaks are nothing to sneeze at either. She, like Aeris, is a BaseBreaker.

** Edward, a bard (the [[TropeNamer original]] SpoonyBard) has a major HeroicBSOD after his fiancee and parents are killed and not reacting in a way fans approved (apparently it's ridiculous to be shattered after the sudden death of your loved ones). He does happen to be very useful at one point [[spoiler:playing the Twin Harp to enable you to use metal weapons against the Dark Elf]], but that's not enough for the fanbase. The DS re-release did tweak his abilities, making him much more useful.

** There's also [[CrutchCharacter Cyan]], a {{Samurai}} spends most of the game moping (though it's justified; his ENTIRE NATION was killed early on), speaks in YeOldeButcheredeEnglishe (that other characters openly mock), has rather low magic stats in battle, and his special ability, Bushido, takes forever to charge up.

*** Quina gets some leeway as his/her Frog Jump ability is easy to get and is powered up through a mini-game. Granted it takes forever to get it leveled up all the way, but having an attack that consistently does 9999 damage is really useful.

** As a matter of fact, even the very patient and rational-minded part of those fans isn't safe even although they are kinda okay with her (deep down they'll admit to some hatred but they at least play her games or read about the story on Final Fantasy Wiki if they don't). These fans (either neutral to, okay with or fans of Lightning) are more frustrated/jealous/irritated with the fact that while her games get regular news and updates while ''Versus'' tends to go through news blackouts. The average response from them is a "Yes,yes. Lightning has a new game. What about ''Versus''?" with many arguing they'd be okay with waiting if more information was given on the game, if Sqeenix explained about XIV earlier, more gameplay trailers are shown or releasing ''VideoGame/{{Final Fantasy Type0}}'' to tide them over.

** [[ReplacementScrappy Noel and Serah]] in VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII-2 . Noel for getting bucketloads of screentime in the trailers, and Serah for referring to Snow (Her ''fiance'') as a "friend" in the trailer, and because fans see her as a replacement of the main protagonist, Lightning (the fact that Serah is, in fact, Lightning's sister; the fact that she seems to have the exact same paradigm roles (Commando, Ravager, and Medic); The fact that her mission is described as being exactly the same as Lightning's ("Save her sister"...though really, what could Serah do to help a supposed Warrior Goddess?); the fact that she seems to have a suspiciously similar weapon to Lightning (instead of a gunblade, it's a swordbow); etc...probably doesn't help very much. It also probably didn't help that they described Lightning as the main protagonist for the first six months and then suddenly show Serah for 98% of the trailers and announced that Lightning would only make brief playable appearances). Noel...well...he just has the misfortune of being described as the replacement for the original main cast.

* Fans started a Scrappydom ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyI all the way back]]'', with the Black Belt/Master class. Mind you, the BB was actually ''stronger'' than the Warrior ([[Webcomic/EightBitTheater Who likes swords]]), but it's defenses were negligable, as equipping armor reduced it's attack power, and after becoming Master, while it becomes even ''more'' powerful, it lacks the ability to use either Black or White magic that the Knight and Ninja classes gained.