History ShutUpKirk / FanWorks

Times where an antagonist [[ShutUpKirk rejects the heroes']] [[KirkSummation attempt to reason with them]] in FanWorks.

* ''FanFic/TheImmortalGame'': [[BigBad Titan]] repeatedly shoots down Twilight's attempts to [[BreakThemByTalking verbally break him]] during their FinalBattle, until she finally manages to get through to him at the last minute [[spoiler:allowing her to [[BroughtDownToNormal drain his power]] and kill him]].

'''Jewelius:''' Pathetic my dear aunty, oh how the mighty have fallen so low. You have proven yourself unfit to rule over Equestria any longer. ''[turns to the Mane Five]'' And you fools have proven yourselves unfit to act as our Elements of Harmony, our protectors, our heroes, no more.\\

** Played with in that she doesn't turn completely evil, but after Twilight [[CorruptTheCutie falls victim to Jewelius' manipulations]] and helps him recapture the heroes, she does nothing to help them when he takes them out to see [[spoiler:Celestia's PublicExecution]], instead telling them off when they [[CassandraTruth try to warn her and the citizens of Canterlot]] [[spoiler:that [[EvilAllAlong Jewelius]] is a backstabbing [[TheSociopath sociopath]]]]. This includes pointing out that they'd [[AesopAmnesia failed to remember]] [[CallBack the lesson they'd learned]] about [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E3LessonZero taking a friend's concerns seriously]] [[SkewedPriorities as well as disregarding the safety of the citizens due to their excitement for the wedding]]. The captives still plead with her afterward, but what forces them to give up is when Twilight finally yells a BigShutUp at them [[BerserkerTears and promptly starts sobbing]]. [[DiggingYourselfDeeper This only angers the crowd who sympathize with her even further]].

'''Hildread''': ''[looks at the attack going on around them with an uneasy expression before hardening her heart]'' Traitors to the King must be punished.\\

'''Hildread''': [[IDidWhatIHadTo Everything we've done was absolutely necessary]]! And if I have to destroy you in order to maintain peace and order in Equestria, so be it.\\

-->'''Hildread''': I am the guardian of this great nation. I protect the ponies that live in it!\\
'''Shining Armor''': Is that what you call ''this''? Protection?!\\

'''Hildread''': Everything we've done was absolutely necessary! And if I have to destroy you in order to maintain peace and order in Equestria, so be it.\\
'''Shining Armor''': Your extreme desires and methods have blinded you to the fact that you're causing more harm than good. This is why you were kicked out of the guard.\\

** In the aftermath of the thwarted Changeling invasion, Jewelius succeeds in his coup partly because he shuts down Celestia's attempt at defending herself by angrily pointing out that she and the other heroes could've prevented the invasion before it began if they'd recognized the warning signs rather than being focused on the wedding preparations. This causes the heroes to panic and try to escape, [[NotHelpingYourCase which unfortunately makes them seem exactly as guilty as Jewelius claimed in the eyes of the public]].

---> '''Jewelius:''' Pathetic my dear aunty, oh how the mighty have fallen so low. You have proven yourself unfit to rule over Equestria any longer. ''[turns to the Mane Five]'' And you fools have proven yourselves unfit to act as our Elements of Harmony, our protectors, our heroes, no more.\\

* In the climax of ''Fanfic/LovedAndLost'', Shining Armor [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech calls out]] his rival [[KnightTemplar Commander Hildread]] of believing too much in using brutality to retain order as well as helping in slaughtering ponies she claims to be protecting. Her ultimate response is to [[IgnoredEpiphany quell any hesitations she has]] and attack her hated rival.

* ''FanFic/BringMeToLife'':

* ''FanFic/FriendshipIsAura'': When offering her a LastSecondChance, Lucario tells [[spoiler:Chrysalis]] that her subjects love her, meaning she doesn't need to [[spoiler:forcibly take it from anyone]]. She responds by [[DevourTheDragon absorbing said subjects]] and trying one last time to kill him.

--->'''Jerry''': "Jesses Christ is my saviour. HE will pretext me in my time of need. Where is your false gods now? I know perfumery well that your gods is not real but is a lie created by Stalin (which s secretly demon processed by the Satan, the worse demon of them all! And he is not a god!)"\\
'''Books''': "Laugh out loud."

--->'''Percy''': No I will never. I will always fool you by worshiping a false set of gods, Zeus the king, and will secret preying to the lord of the darkness, Satan himself,"

--->'''Hahn''': "I get that you have urges. But you know you don't have to marry her right? They aren't like us. All firebenders are such sluts. You can fuck her and leave her. You don't have to debase yourself by having a relationship with one of those firebitches."

-->'''Selina:''' "You wanted to kill me. After I fought beside you, trusted you, twice. With my life. Talia, Talia. You claim to love my man. But I can't believe you know what the hell love really is. Not a bit of it."\\
'''Talia Al Ghul:''' "I do know what love is, you witch! I know because you broke my heart. And so did he!"

-->'''Kallen''': "Then explain something, what higher purpose did the death of my brother serve? What about the people in Shinjuku? In Saitama?"

* In ''Fanfic/BoysDoTankary'', Vincent, after telling Maho she knows nothing about true family because she pushed Miho away, [[spoiler:not realizing that Maho does, in fact, love Miho]], Maho contemptuously replies “Family. This coming from a guy who has no family”. Vincent is unfazed, though, and [[ShutUpHannibal tells Maho that]] [[TrueCompanions he considers the Oarai crew and his platoon his family]].
* In ''Fanfic/BoysUndSenshado'' (found [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/9332528/7/Boys-und-Sensha-d%C5%8D here]]), after Shiho [[spoiler:disowns Miho]], Akio tells Shiho that Miho is far more talented than Shiho realizes and that Sensha-do is about friendship and camaraderie, not just victory. Shiho responds by saying "That is not what Sensha-do is about, little boy!"

* In ''FanFic/AgesOfShadow'', when [[TheHero Trace]] starts to give a PatrickStewartSpeech during the FinalBattle, [[FallenHero Jade]] interrupts him and tells him to get started with the dueling.

* ''[[Fanfic/ConsequencesMiraculousLadybug CONSEQUENCES]]'': In ''SINS OF THE PAST'', Ladybug tries to convince the akumatized Frederick that revenge isn't the answer. He replies that he's the Inquisitor right now, and reveals [[ScarsAreForever the scars from when]] he was [[DrivenToSuicide driven to attempt suicide]] thanks to Lila's manipulations.

* Generally speaking, any time Suzaku tries to convince someone in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10448834/20/Six-Paths-of-Rebellion Six Paths of Rebellion]]'' that violence won't solve anything and that by fighting the system, they're only causing "unnecessary bloodshed", they or someone else will call him a hypocrite for spouting such beliefs while working for a tyrannical world-conquering empire. Particularly of note is when he tries to convince Kallen to leave the Black Knights.

* A rare hero to hero example in ''FanFic/OriginStory''. Captain America takes Superwoman to task over her willingness to indulge in lethal violence, stating the Avengers don't do that. Superwoman throws it back in his face by pointing out that not only has he and the other Avengers all acted ruthlessly in the past when the situation called for it, but she points out that for all her questionable decisions she could have done a '''''lot''''' worse.

-->'''Jerry''': "Jesses Christ is my saviour. HE will pretext me in my lime of need. Where is your false gods now? I know perfumery well that your gods is not real but is a lie created by Stalin (which s secretly demon processed by the Satan, the worse demon of them all! And he is not a god!)"\\

* ''Fanfic/TeenageJinchurikiShinobi'': When Splinter tries reaching out to Neji, Neji not only rejects his efforts, but [[KickTheDog calls him a rodent]], earning himself even more scorn from Team Seven.

* In ''Fanfic/DanceWithTheDemons'', Talia Al Ghul tries to get Catwoman assassinated Selina when the latter gets married to Batman. When Catwoman says Talia doesn't know what to love someone selflessly is like, Talia retorts that's very easy for Catwoman to say.

* In ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/13778130 uthando lukabawo]]'', T'Challa disapproves his cousin Erik's justifying his terrorism through his need to protect his daughter, asking if she wanted for her dad to become a monster. Erik verbally shreds him to pieces by pointing T'Challa's father killed Erik's so he's not qualified to criticize his parenting, and Wakanda itself failed his daughter when she needed help and they wouldn't give it because she was an "outsider".

* ''[[Fanfic/ConsequencesMiraculousLadybug CONSEQUENCES]]'': In ''SINS OF THE PAST'', Ladybug tries to convince the akumatized Frederick that revenge isn't the answer. He replies that he's the Inquisitor right now, and reveals [[ScarsAreForever the scars from when]] he was [[DrivenToSuicide driven to attempt Suicide]] thanks to Lila's manipulations.

* ''Fanfic/JWITCHSeason1'': In "Gladiatorial Clash", Will asks Hak Foo (who's just been turned into a Dark Chi Warrior) if he's really willing to let himself be turned into Wong's slave in exchange for power. His response is a BluntYes.

* In ''Fanfic/FrozenHearts'', during an argument between Hans' brothers regarding Hans, [[NiceGuy Heins]] tries to remind [[BigBrotherBully Harald]] of what makes a prince.

* ''FanFic/FriendshipIsAura'': When offering her a LastSecondChance, Lucario tells [[spoiler: Chrysalis]] that her subjects love her, meaning she doesn't need to [[spoiler: forcibly take it from anyone]]. She responds by [[DevourTheDragon absorbing said subjects]] and trying one last time to kill him.

** Annabeth tries this on Jerry at one point, saying ""Those ways are old and tired. Our way is much better", but he responds with "[[ShutUpHannibal But at least our way works]]! [[PreMortemOneLiner Amen]]" before killing her.

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* ''Fanfic/PonyPOVSeries'': In the Finale Arc, Apple Bloom tells Diamond Tiara that she had seen several alternate realities where Diamond was a hero, meaning Diamond's fate as a villain isn't set in stone and she can still change. Diamond retorts, "None of them are me."
* In ''Fanfic/HellIsAMartialArtist'' the [[Manga/AhMyGoddess Norns]], Urd in particular, try to convince Ranma that Hild is merely using him and she tricked him by rewriting reality to make him her son/daughter. Ranma shoots back that he's the one who pressed the button to do so; so far as he's concerned Hild ''is'' his mother, even before they made it reality.
** Likewise, whenever someone brings up that Hild is {{Satan}} and tortures souls for a living, Ranma responds that she tortures the damned. He met some of those souls and learned what they did in life and every last one of them deserves their torment.
* When Miya criticizes Takami in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10973901/1/ Ashikabi of Thunder and Lightning]]'' for getting her son involved in the Sekirei Game, Takami responds that she needs a way to counter the Ashikabi of the South and East as well as hopefully stop Minaka. While Miya could easily do so, her refusal to take up her sword again has forced Takami to find an alternate solution.
* In ''FanFic/AgesOfShadow'', when [[TheHero Trace]] starts to give a PatrickStewartSpeech during the FinalBattle, [[FallenHero Jade]] interrupts him and tells him to get started with the dueling.
* Frequently in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12394742/31/The-Defeated The Defeated]]'' a Soul Reaper (usually Byakuya, Soi-fon, or Yamamoto) will call out Ichigo and/or Orihime for breaking their laws and later joining Aizen. Each time, someone fires back that Soul Society decided to kill schoolchildren (Uryu and Sado) for trying to prevent a wrongful execution then tortured the survivors before sending them home without admitting they were the ones in the wrong.
* ''Fanfic/GuardiansWizardsAndKungFuFighters'': During the fight in Chapter 17, Jackie tries to get Hak Foo to abandon his Oni mask, appealing to his desire to be the strongest warrior by pointing out that he's relying on the mask's power instead of his own. Hak Foo responds by saying that he doesn't care, as long as he wins.
* ''FanFic/BringMeToLife'':
** In chapter 37, when Willow [[YoureInsane calls her insane]] for being onboard with the First's plans, [[spoiler: Amy]] responds with a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech, chewing Willow out for being scared of her own power and continuing to be Buffy's sidekick.
** In chapter 38, when Giles declares they will find a way to stop it, the First responds sarcastically, having already [[spoiler: put Buffy and Angel out of commission.]]
* ''Fanfic/{{Marionettes}}'': When Sunset Shimmer tries to convince Marshmallow that what S.M.I.L.E. and Masquerade are doing is wrong, Marshmallow retorts, "Your speeches are boring! Why do you keep making them?!"
* In the climax of ''Fanfic/LovedAndLost'', Shining Armor [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech calls out]] his rival [[KnightTemplar Commander Hildread]] of believing too much in using brutality to retain order as well as helping in slaughtering ponies she claims to be protecting. Her ultimate response is to [[IgnoredEpiphany quell any hesitations she has]] and attack her hated rival.
-->'''Hildread''': I am the guardian of this great nation. I protect the ponies that live in it!\\
'''Shining Armor''': Is that what you call ''this''? Protection?!\\
'''Hildread''': ''[looks at the attack going on around them with an uneasy expression before hardening her heart]'' Traitors to the King must be punished.\\
'''Shining Armor''': Traitors?! These are innocent ponies! This is a massacre ordered by that vile usurper you call a ''king''!\\
'''Hildread''': Everything we've done was absolutely necessary! And if I have to destroy you in order to maintain peace and order in Equestria, so be it.\\
'''Shining Armor''': Your extreme desires and methods have blinded you to the fact that you're causing more harm than good. This is why you were kicked out of the guard.\\
'''Hildread''': I WILL CRUSH YOU!
* ''FanFic/RosarioVampireBrightestDarkness Act IV'': Hokuto explains at length to Moka why he wants to resurrect Alucard to bring about TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt. As far as he's concerned, all living things, human and monster alike, are nothing but evil, meaningless trash who could never co-exist and only want to live for the sake of living, endlessly killing one another to do so; thus, he believes that [[FinalSolution the only way to achieve true peace]] in the world is by reviving Alucard and allowing him to destroy every living thing on the planet. Moka insists that his views are unjustified and that both humans and monsters ''do'' have good in them, with those at [[ExtranormalInstitute Yokai Academy]] being proof of that. Hokuto retorts that Yokai Academy simply teaches monsters to survive amongst humanity by [[TheMasquerade hiding what they really are]], which is ''not'' true coexistence.
* In ''Fanfic/AmazingFantasy'', Mitsuki gives a scathing speech to her son Katsuki about how his petty and bratty behavior could jeopardize his chances at becoming a Hero. Rather than listen to her, he throws the door of the car open and stomps away.
* In ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/13778130 uthando lukabawo]]'', T'Challa disapproves his cousin Erik's justifying his terrorism through his need to protect his daughter, asking if she wanted for her dad to become a monster. Erik verbally shreds him to pieces by pointing T'Challa's father killed Erik's so he's not qualified to criticize his parenting, and Wakanda itself failed his daughter when she needed help and they wouldn't give it because she was an "outsider".
-->'''Erik:''' Aliens rained hell on Manhattan, and a fucking building fell on my daughter. [[ArmorPiercingQuestion Where was Wakanda?]]
* In ''Fanfic/DanceWithTheDemons'', Talia Al Ghul tries to get Catwoman assassinated Selina when the latter gets married to Batman. When Catwoman says Talia doesn't know what to love someone selflessly is like, Talia retorts that's very easy for Catwoman to say.
-->'''Selina:''' "You wanted to kill me. After I fought beside you, trusted you, twice. With my life. Talia, Talia. You claim to love my man. But I can't believe you know what the hell love really is. Not a bit of it."\\
'''Talia Al Ghul:''' "I do know what love is, you witch! I know because you broke my heart. And so did he!"
* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13604633/3/The-Rigged-Game-and-the-Trickster-s-Uprising The Rugged Game and the Trickster's Uprising]]'', Akechi is sent to assassinate Ren Kurusu, Akira's father, for investigating Shido's action to help clear his son's name. Ren tries to convince Akechi to join the fight against Shido since he has no reason to support the politician. Akechi responds that he wants Shido to become Prime Minister so that TheReveal [[spoiler:that he is Shido's bastard child]] will be all the more damning to his reputation, right before shooting Ren before he could fire back.
* In ''Fanfic/LostInCamelot'', a hero-on-hero version occurs when Arthur [[spoiler:initially orders Merlin to leave when he's angry to learn that Merlin's lied about his magic for years. As Merlin prepares to walk out, Bo instead forces the two to talk it over, pointing out to Arthur that he can't exactly be angry at Merlin for lying to him when he had good reason to believe Arthur would kill him if he knew the truth]].
* ''Fanfic/DidIMakeTheMostOfLovingYou'' features another hero-on-hero case of this; after Lee learns that various members of his family have memories of an alternate future that they have been actively trying to change, he explicitly asks if they have the right to make such big changes on behalf of everyone in the Colonies. However, Kara Thrace stops him asking that question by asking if he’d really prefer to live in a timeline where his brother Zak was already dead before the Colonies fell.
* ''Fanfic/FireDarkMark'': When Iron Man replies to Firebrand's "everything sucks" rant by stating that progress is being done, he gets this answer in return.
-->'''Firebrand:''' Oh, God, Iron Man, Iron Man. I thought you, of all people, would understand. You've been so close to the wheels of power in this country for so long, you can't be that ignorant.\\
'''Iron Man:''' Ignorant of what?\\
'''Firebrand:''' Ignorant of the price the world's paid to keep us on top. Do you know how much of the Earth's resources is used up by the United States, let alone the rest of the First World? Do you know how many people starve in India, go cold and hungry in Africa, just so about two hundred million people in America can go to bed under central heating and wake up to a nice bowl of Cheerios in the morning? Do you know how much we use up?\\
'''Iron Man:''' I know. I've been in a lot more of the world than you could imagine. You also ought to know, if you've been keeping up with us, that Stark was one of the first companies to take heed of the pollution problem and act on it. That we've been instrumental in seeking alternative power sources, building factories in underprivileged nations to help the local economy. That we've worked with the United Nations to try and improve methods of farming, of...\\
'''Firebrand:''' Oh, shut the hell up.
* ''Fanfic/JWITCHSeason1'': In "Gladiatorial Clash", Will asks Hak Foo (who's just been turned into a Dark Chi Warrior) if he's really willing to let himself be turned into Wong's slave in exchange for power. His response is a BluntYes.