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* '''Parodied''': Alice constantly steals from people, up to {{Impossible Thie|f}}ving Skills such as stealing a character's voice in the middle of a conversation, but she cracks jokes that are so funny even her enemies stop to laugh and always makes sure there is enough to go around for her friends.
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* '''Parodied''': '''Parodied''':
** Alice constantly steals from people, up to {{Impossible Thie|f}}ving Skills such as stealing a character's voice in the middle of a conversation, but she cracks jokes that are so funny even her enemies stop to laugh and always makes sure there is enough to go around for herfriends.friends.
** Alice [[MoralEventHorizon steals a heart transplant from a child on the brink of death]]. Her teammates laugh and comment on what a rascal Alice is and pat her on the back.
** Alice constantly steals from people, up to {{Impossible Thie|f}}ving Skills such as stealing a character's voice in the middle of a conversation, but she cracks jokes that are so funny even her enemies stop to laugh and always makes sure there is enough to go around for her
** Alice [[MoralEventHorizon steals a heart transplant from a child on the brink of death]]. Her teammates laugh and comment on what a rascal Alice is and pat her on the back.
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** Alice use to be a thief, but stopped.
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** Alice is really FauxAffablyEvil.
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** Alice is really FauxAffablyEvil.a FauxAffablyEvil RichBitch.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Alice is a completely unrepentant thief who gleefully robs people all the time, making no effort whatsoever to hide this from her teammates -- but only targets citizens of TheEmpire, [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality making it okay]].
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* '''Exaggerated''': FemmeFatale Alice is a completely unrepentant thief who gleefully robs people all the time, making no effort whatsoever to hide this from her teammates -- but only targets citizens of TheEmpire, [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality making it okay]].
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* '''Double Subverted''': The orphanage was actually a front for the bad guys; her extortion exposes their scheme, and the charismatic Alice saves the day and her reputation.
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* '''Double Subverted''': The orphanage was actually a front for the bad guys; her extortion exposes their scheme, and the charismatic LovableAlphaBitch Alice saves the day and her reputation.
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* '''Implied''': Alice doesn't appears in the show until an hour in, but in the first five minutes we get a ballad about how she's JustLikeRobinHood.
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* '''Played For Horror:''' Turns out that Alice's "lovable" qualities are the veneer of a FauxAffablyEvil psycho gangster, and the reason why nobody's exposed her yet is because [[LeaveNoWitnesses Alice tends to leave nobody alive who could do so]].
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* '''Straight''': Natalie is a [[DeadpanSnarker sharp-tongued]] thief who joins [[TheHero Mark]]'s [[PlayerParty team]] and becomes a [[BreakoutCharacter fan favorite]].
* '''Exaggerated''': Natalie is a completely unrepentant thief who gleefully robs people all the time, making no effort whatsoever to hide this from her teammates -- but only targets citizens of TheEmpire, [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality making it okay.]]
* '''Exaggerated''': Natalie is a completely unrepentant thief who gleefully robs people all the time, making no effort whatsoever to hide this from her teammates -- but only targets citizens of TheEmpire, [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality making it okay.]]
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* '''Straight''': Natalie Alice is a [[DeadpanSnarker sharp-tongued]] thief who joins [[TheHero Mark]]'s Bob]]'s [[PlayerParty team]] and becomes a [[BreakoutCharacter fan favorite]].
* '''Exaggerated''':Natalie Alice is a completely unrepentant thief who gleefully robs people all the time, making no effort whatsoever to hide this from her teammates -- but only targets citizens of TheEmpire, [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality making it okay.]]okay]].
* '''Exaggerated''':
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** Natalie is a minor thief who joins Mark's team. Due to her invaluable skill in lockpicking and pickpocketing she manages to help the team along, but she's rarely shown stealing from people who wouldn't be considered an acceptable target in her eyes.
** Natalie is a thief who is helpful to the team. Despite this, Natalie is depicted as a [[TokenEvilTeammate shady person]] and the other heroes keep their distance from her.
** Natalie is a thief who is helpful to the team. Despite this, Natalie is depicted as a [[TokenEvilTeammate shady person]] and the other heroes keep their distance from her.
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** Natalie Alice is a minor thief who joins Mark's Bob's team. Due to her invaluable skill in lockpicking and pickpocketing she manages to help the team along, but she's rarely shown stealing from people who wouldn't be considered an acceptable target in her eyes.
**Natalie Alice is a thief who is helpful to the team. Despite this, Natalie Alice is depicted as a [[TokenEvilTeammate shady person]] and the other heroes keep their distance from her.
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* '''Inverted''': Kevin is a stuffy, HolierThanThou LawfulStupid paladin viewed as his series' [[TheScrappy Scrappy]][=/=]HateSink.
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* '''Inverted''': Kevin Charles is a stuffy, HolierThanThou LawfulStupid paladin viewed as his series' [[TheScrappy Scrappy]][=/=]HateSink.
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** Natalie's likeable until she's revealed to be [[MoralEventHorizon extorting money from an orphanage of very sick kids.]]
** Natalie is really FauxAffablyEvil.
* '''Double Subverted''': The orphanage was actually a front for the bad guys; her extortion exposes their scheme, and the charismatic Natalie saves the day and her reputation.
* '''Parodied''': Natalie constantly steals from people, up to {{Impossible Thie|f}}ving Skills such as stealing a character's voice in the middle of a conversation, but she cracks jokes that are so funny even her enemies stop to laugh and always makes sure there is enough to go around for her friends.
* '''Zig Zagged''': Natalie's likeable until she's revealed to be [[MoralEventHorizon extorting money from an orphanage of very sick kids]], but the orphanage was actually a front for the bad guys; her extortion exposes their scheme, and the charismatic Natalie saves the day and her reputation. It then turns out that Natalie [[HowDidYouKnowIDidnt didn't know about the front of the orphanage at the time she was extorting them.]]
** Natalie is really FauxAffablyEvil.
* '''Double Subverted''': The orphanage was actually a front for the bad guys; her extortion exposes their scheme, and the charismatic Natalie saves the day and her reputation.
* '''Parodied''': Natalie constantly steals from people, up to {{Impossible Thie|f}}ving Skills such as stealing a character's voice in the middle of a conversation, but she cracks jokes that are so funny even her enemies stop to laugh and always makes sure there is enough to go around for her friends.
* '''Zig Zagged''': Natalie's likeable until she's revealed to be [[MoralEventHorizon extorting money from an orphanage of very sick kids]], but the orphanage was actually a front for the bad guys; her extortion exposes their scheme, and the charismatic Natalie saves the day and her reputation. It then turns out that Natalie [[HowDidYouKnowIDidnt didn't know about the front of the orphanage at the time she was extorting them.]]
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** Natalie's Alice's likeable until she's revealed to be [[MoralEventHorizon extorting money from an orphanage of very sick kids.]]
kids]].
**Natalie Alice is really FauxAffablyEvil.
* '''Double Subverted''': The orphanage was actually a front for the bad guys; her extortion exposes their scheme, and the charismaticNatalie Alice saves the day and her reputation.
* '''Parodied''':Natalie Alice constantly steals from people, up to {{Impossible Thie|f}}ving Skills such as stealing a character's voice in the middle of a conversation, but she cracks jokes that are so funny even her enemies stop to laugh and always makes sure there is enough to go around for her friends.
friends.
* '''Zig Zagged''':Natalie's Alice's likeable until she's revealed to be [[MoralEventHorizon extorting money from an orphanage of very sick kids]], but the orphanage was actually a front for the bad guys; her extortion exposes their scheme, and the charismatic Natalie Alice saves the day and her reputation. It then turns out that Natalie Alice [[HowDidYouKnowIDidnt didn't know about the front of the orphanage at the time she was extorting them.]]them]].
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* '''Double Subverted''': The orphanage was actually a front for the bad guys; her extortion exposes their scheme, and the charismatic
* '''Parodied''':
* '''Zig Zagged''':
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** Natalie's a rogue but isn't lovable. The team keeps her around because she's useful but none of the members trust her and are always vigilant of an inevitable backstab.
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** Natalie's Alice's a rogue but isn't lovable. The team keeps her around because she's useful but none of the members trust her and are always vigilant of an inevitable backstab.
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* '''Invoked''': Natalie wants to keep up her criminal ways, so she works hard to come across as charismatic enough to get away with it.
* '''Exploited''': Natalie uses her reputation as a LovableRogue to exploit and gain things that she wouldn't normally gain if everyone distrusted her.
* '''Defied''': Natalie is a thief who tries to be convivial and charismatic, but everybody, even her teammates, [[WhatTheHellHero condemns her wrongdoings.]]
* '''Discussed''': "Well, some of what Natalie does isn't exactly legal, but damn if it isn't hard not to fall for her natural charms.
* '''Exploited''': Natalie uses her reputation as a LovableRogue to exploit and gain things that she wouldn't normally gain if everyone distrusted her.
* '''Defied''': Natalie is a thief who tries to be convivial and charismatic, but everybody, even her teammates, [[WhatTheHellHero condemns her wrongdoings.]]
* '''Discussed''': "Well, some of what Natalie does isn't exactly legal, but damn if it isn't hard not to fall for her natural charms.
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* '''Invoked''': Natalie Alice wants to keep up her criminal ways, so she works hard to come across as charismatic enough to get away with it.
* '''Exploited''':Natalie Alice uses her reputation as a LovableRogue to exploit and gain things that she wouldn't normally gain if everyone distrusted her.
* '''Defied''':Natalie Alice is a thief who tries to be convivial and charismatic, but everybody, even her teammates, [[WhatTheHellHero condemns her wrongdoings.]]
wrongdoings]].
* '''Discussed''': "Well, some of whatNatalie Alice does isn't exactly legal, but damn if it isn't hard not to fall for her natural charms.
* '''Exploited''':
* '''Defied''':
* '''Discussed''': "Well, some of what
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* '''Deconstructed''': Natalie's law-breaking gets her companions into trouble; she's forced to choose between continuing her criminal ways or helping her friends, with her Code of Honor hanging in the balance.
* '''Reconstructed''': Natalie [[TakeAThirdOption takes a third option]], busts her friends out of jail, is EasilyForgiven for the incident and everyone moves on, Natalie having learned to be a little more careful in the future.
* '''Played For Laughs:''' Natalie is a compulsive kleptomaniac who [[ImpossibleThief pulls off various stunts]] thanks to the RuleOfFunny, such as [[RunningGag routinely swiping things]] from any villain who dares monologue in her presence, like their pipe, their plot trinket, their pants...
* '''Played For Drama:''' Natalie's thievery drives a wedge between her and the more straight-laced members of their team, like Kevin. Though repeatedly asked to choose between focusing on their quest or continuing her life of crime, she continues to dodge the issue, refusing to pick one over the other even as the different lifestyles continue to clash.
* '''Reconstructed''': Natalie [[TakeAThirdOption takes a third option]], busts her friends out of jail, is EasilyForgiven for the incident and everyone moves on, Natalie having learned to be a little more careful in the future.
* '''Played For Laughs:''' Natalie is a compulsive kleptomaniac who [[ImpossibleThief pulls off various stunts]] thanks to the RuleOfFunny, such as [[RunningGag routinely swiping things]] from any villain who dares monologue in her presence, like their pipe, their plot trinket, their pants...
* '''Played For Drama:''' Natalie's thievery drives a wedge between her and the more straight-laced members of their team, like Kevin. Though repeatedly asked to choose between focusing on their quest or continuing her life of crime, she continues to dodge the issue, refusing to pick one over the other even as the different lifestyles continue to clash.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Natalie's Alice's law-breaking gets her companions into trouble; she's forced to choose between continuing her criminal ways or helping her friends, with her Code of Honor hanging in the balance.
* '''Reconstructed''':Natalie Alice [[TakeAThirdOption takes a third option]], busts her friends out of jail, is EasilyForgiven for the incident and everyone moves on, Natalie Alice having learned to be a little more careful in the future.
* '''Played For Laughs:'''Natalie Alice is a compulsive kleptomaniac who [[ImpossibleThief pulls off various stunts]] thanks to the RuleOfFunny, such as [[RunningGag routinely swiping things]] from any villain who dares monologue in her presence, like their pipe, their plot trinket, their pants...
pants.
* '''Played For Drama:'''Natalie's Alice's thievery drives a wedge between her and the more straight-laced members of their team, like Kevin.Charles. Though repeatedly asked to choose between focusing on their quest or continuing her life of crime, she continues to dodge the issue, refusing to pick one over the other even as the different lifestyles continue to clash.
* '''Reconstructed''':
* '''Played For Laughs:'''
* '''Played For Drama:'''
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** Natalie is minor thief who joins Mark's team. Due to her invaluable skill in lockpicking and pickpocketing she manages to help the team along, but she's rarely shown stealing from people who wouldn't be considered an acceptable target in her eyes.
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** Natalie is a minor thief who joins Mark's team. Due to her invaluable skill in lockpicking and pickpocketing she manages to help the team along, but she's rarely shown stealing from people who wouldn't be considered an acceptable target in her eyes.
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* '''Parodied''': Natalie constantly steals from people, up to {{Impossible Thie|f}}ving Skills such as stealing a character's voice in the middle of a conversation, but she cracks jokes so funny even her enemies stop to laugh and always makes sure there is enough to go around for her friends.
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* '''Parodied''': Natalie constantly steals from people, up to {{Impossible Thie|f}}ving Skills such as stealing a character's voice in the middle of a conversation, but she cracks jokes that are so funny even her enemies stop to laugh and always makes sure there is enough to go around for her friends.
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* '''Straight''': Natalie is a [[DeadpanSnarker sharp-tongued]] thief who joins [[TheHero Mark]]'s [[PlayerParty team]] and becomes a [[EnsembleDarkhorse fan favorite]].
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* '''Straight''': Natalie is a [[DeadpanSnarker sharp-tongued]] thief who joins [[TheHero Mark]]'s [[PlayerParty team]] and becomes a [[EnsembleDarkhorse [[BreakoutCharacter fan favorite]].
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* '''Downplayed''': Natalie is minor thief who joins Mark's team. Due to her invaluable skill in lockpicking and pickpocketing she manages to help the team along, but she's rarely shown stealing from people who wouldn't be considered an acceptable target in her eyes.
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* '''Downplayed''': '''Downplayed''':
** Natalie is minor thief who joins Mark's team. Due to her invaluable skill in lockpicking and pickpocketing she manages to help the team along, but she's rarely shown stealing from people who wouldn't be considered an acceptable target in hereyes.eyes.
** Natalie is a thief who is helpful to the team. Despite this, Natalie is depicted as a [[TokenEvilTeammate shady person]] and the other heroes keep their distance from her.
** Natalie is minor thief who joins Mark's team. Due to her invaluable skill in lockpicking and pickpocketing she manages to help the team along, but she's rarely shown stealing from people who wouldn't be considered an acceptable target in her
** Natalie is a thief who is helpful to the team. Despite this, Natalie is depicted as a [[TokenEvilTeammate shady person]] and the other heroes keep their distance from her.
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'''Basic Trope''': A character who breaks laws for their own benefit, yet remains charismatic and likable.
* '''Straight''': Natalie is a [[DeadpanSnarker sharp-tongued]] thief who joins [[TheHero Mark]]'s [[PlayerParty team]] and becomes a [[EnsembleDarkhorse fan favorite]].
* '''Exaggerated''': Natalie is a completely unrepentant thief who gleefully robs people all the time, making no effort whatsoever to hide this from her teammates -- but only targets citizens of TheEmpire, [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality making it okay.]]
* '''Downplayed''': Natalie is minor thief who joins Mark's team. Due to her invaluable skill in lockpicking and pickpocketing she manages to help the team along, but she's rarely shown stealing from people who wouldn't be considered an acceptable target in her eyes.
* '''Justified''': TheEmpire is genuinely oppressive; in order to get their heroing done ''someone'' in the group is going to end up breaking laws.
* '''Inverted''': Kevin is a stuffy, HolierThanThou LawfulStupid paladin viewed as his series' [[TheScrappy Scrappy]][=/=]HateSink.
* '''Subverted''':
** Natalie's likeable until she's revealed to be [[MoralEventHorizon extorting money from an orphanage of very sick kids.]]
** Natalie is really FauxAffablyEvil.
* '''Double Subverted''': The orphanage was actually a front for the bad guys; her extortion exposes their scheme, and the charismatic Natalie saves the day and her reputation.
* '''Parodied''': Natalie constantly steals from people, up to {{Impossible Thie|f}}ving Skills such as stealing a character's voice in the middle of a conversation, but she cracks jokes so funny even her enemies stop to laugh and always makes sure there is enough to go around for her friends.
* '''Zig Zagged''': Natalie's likeable until she's revealed to be [[MoralEventHorizon extorting money from an orphanage of very sick kids]], but the orphanage was actually a front for the bad guys; her extortion exposes their scheme, and the charismatic Natalie saves the day and her reputation. It then turns out that Natalie [[HowDidYouKnowIDidnt didn't know about the front of the orphanage at the time she was extorting them.]]
* '''Averted''':
** All of the characters who follow the rules are likable, and those who don't, aren't.
** Natalie's a rogue but isn't lovable. The team keeps her around because she's useful but none of the members trust her and are always vigilant of an inevitable backstab.
* '''Enforced''': "Everybody loves that Jack Sparrow guy, let's put someone like him in our show."
* '''Lampshaded''': "For a known criminal, you sure are popular."
* '''Invoked''': Natalie wants to keep up her criminal ways, so she works hard to come across as charismatic enough to get away with it.
* '''Exploited''': Natalie uses her reputation as a LovableRogue to exploit and gain things that she wouldn't normally gain if everyone distrusted her.
* '''Defied''': Natalie is a thief who tries to be convivial and charismatic, but everybody, even her teammates, [[WhatTheHellHero condemns her wrongdoings.]]
* '''Discussed''': "Well, some of what Natalie does isn't exactly legal, but damn if it isn't hard not to fall for her natural charms.
* '''Conversed''': "Why is it that everyone loves her even though she's a borderline kleptomaniac? It's like they don't even mind when she steals from them."
* '''Deconstructed''': Natalie's law-breaking gets her companions into trouble; she's forced to choose between continuing her criminal ways or helping her friends, with her Code of Honor hanging in the balance.
* '''Reconstructed''': Natalie [[TakeAThirdOption takes a third option]], busts her friends out of jail, is EasilyForgiven for the incident and everyone moves on, Natalie having learned to be a little more careful in the future.
* '''Played For Laughs:''' Natalie is a compulsive kleptomaniac who [[ImpossibleThief pulls off various stunts]] thanks to the RuleOfFunny, such as [[RunningGag routinely swiping things]] from any villain who dares monologue in her presence, like their pipe, their plot trinket, their pants...
* '''Played For Drama:''' Natalie's thievery drives a wedge between her and the more straight-laced members of their team, like Kevin. Though repeatedly asked to choose between focusing on their quest or continuing her life of crime, she continues to dodge the issue, refusing to pick one over the other even as the different lifestyles continue to clash.
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* '''Straight''': Natalie is a [[DeadpanSnarker sharp-tongued]] thief who joins [[TheHero Mark]]'s [[PlayerParty team]] and becomes a [[EnsembleDarkhorse fan favorite]].
* '''Exaggerated''': Natalie is a completely unrepentant thief who gleefully robs people all the time, making no effort whatsoever to hide this from her teammates -- but only targets citizens of TheEmpire, [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality making it okay.]]
* '''Downplayed''': Natalie is minor thief who joins Mark's team. Due to her invaluable skill in lockpicking and pickpocketing she manages to help the team along, but she's rarely shown stealing from people who wouldn't be considered an acceptable target in her eyes.
* '''Justified''': TheEmpire is genuinely oppressive; in order to get their heroing done ''someone'' in the group is going to end up breaking laws.
* '''Inverted''': Kevin is a stuffy, HolierThanThou LawfulStupid paladin viewed as his series' [[TheScrappy Scrappy]][=/=]HateSink.
* '''Subverted''':
** Natalie's likeable until she's revealed to be [[MoralEventHorizon extorting money from an orphanage of very sick kids.]]
** Natalie is really FauxAffablyEvil.
* '''Double Subverted''': The orphanage was actually a front for the bad guys; her extortion exposes their scheme, and the charismatic Natalie saves the day and her reputation.
* '''Parodied''': Natalie constantly steals from people, up to {{Impossible Thie|f}}ving Skills such as stealing a character's voice in the middle of a conversation, but she cracks jokes so funny even her enemies stop to laugh and always makes sure there is enough to go around for her friends.
* '''Zig Zagged''': Natalie's likeable until she's revealed to be [[MoralEventHorizon extorting money from an orphanage of very sick kids]], but the orphanage was actually a front for the bad guys; her extortion exposes their scheme, and the charismatic Natalie saves the day and her reputation. It then turns out that Natalie [[HowDidYouKnowIDidnt didn't know about the front of the orphanage at the time she was extorting them.]]
* '''Averted''':
** All of the characters who follow the rules are likable, and those who don't, aren't.
** Natalie's a rogue but isn't lovable. The team keeps her around because she's useful but none of the members trust her and are always vigilant of an inevitable backstab.
* '''Enforced''': "Everybody loves that Jack Sparrow guy, let's put someone like him in our show."
* '''Lampshaded''': "For a known criminal, you sure are popular."
* '''Invoked''': Natalie wants to keep up her criminal ways, so she works hard to come across as charismatic enough to get away with it.
* '''Exploited''': Natalie uses her reputation as a LovableRogue to exploit and gain things that she wouldn't normally gain if everyone distrusted her.
* '''Defied''': Natalie is a thief who tries to be convivial and charismatic, but everybody, even her teammates, [[WhatTheHellHero condemns her wrongdoings.]]
* '''Discussed''': "Well, some of what Natalie does isn't exactly legal, but damn if it isn't hard not to fall for her natural charms.
* '''Conversed''': "Why is it that everyone loves her even though she's a borderline kleptomaniac? It's like they don't even mind when she steals from them."
* '''Deconstructed''': Natalie's law-breaking gets her companions into trouble; she's forced to choose between continuing her criminal ways or helping her friends, with her Code of Honor hanging in the balance.
* '''Reconstructed''': Natalie [[TakeAThirdOption takes a third option]], busts her friends out of jail, is EasilyForgiven for the incident and everyone moves on, Natalie having learned to be a little more careful in the future.
* '''Played For Laughs:''' Natalie is a compulsive kleptomaniac who [[ImpossibleThief pulls off various stunts]] thanks to the RuleOfFunny, such as [[RunningGag routinely swiping things]] from any villain who dares monologue in her presence, like their pipe, their plot trinket, their pants...
* '''Played For Drama:''' Natalie's thievery drives a wedge between her and the more straight-laced members of their team, like Kevin. Though repeatedly asked to choose between focusing on their quest or continuing her life of crime, she continues to dodge the issue, refusing to pick one over the other even as the different lifestyles continue to clash.
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