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* The ''Series/GameOfThrones'' spoofs in ''WesternAnimation/{{Disenchantment}}'' got some accusations of this, ignoring that the show itself and the original novels are already such a brutal GenreDeconstruction of high fantasy that they often border on satire. For example, one character in Disenchantment gets impaled on the stand-in for the Iron Throne, but in ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'', kings being injured by or even dying on the throne are said to be a regular occurrence. Luckily, this mostly stopped after the first season.

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* The ''Series/GameOfThrones'' spoofs in ''WesternAnimation/{{Disenchantment}}'' got some accusations of this, ignoring the fact that the show itself ''Game of Thrones'' and the original novels ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'' are already such a brutal GenreDeconstruction of high fantasy {{high fantasy}} that they often border on satire. For example, one character in Disenchantment ''Disenchantment'' gets impaled on the stand-in for the Iron Throne, but Throne--but in ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'', kings being injured by or even dying on the throne are ''A Song of Ice and Fire'', it's said to be a regular occurrence.common occurrence for kings to be injured or killed on the Iron Throne (it's meant to be a symbol of [[TheChainsOfCommanding the burdens of leadership]], so it was designed to be dangerous and precarious to sit on). Luckily, this mostly stopped after the first season.
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* The ''Series/GameOfThrones'' spoofs in ''WesternAnimation/{{Disenchantment}}'' got some accusations of this, ignoring that the show itself and the original novels are already such a brutal GenreDeconstruction of high fantasy that they often border on satire. Luckily, this mostly stopped after the first season.

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* The ''Series/GameOfThrones'' spoofs in ''WesternAnimation/{{Disenchantment}}'' got some accusations of this, ignoring that the show itself and the original novels are already such a brutal GenreDeconstruction of high fantasy that they often border on satire. For example, one character in Disenchantment gets impaled on the stand-in for the Iron Throne, but in ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'', kings being injured by or even dying on the throne are said to be a regular occurrence. Luckily, this mostly stopped after the first season.
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This is pure Fanon and Common Knowledge, Sonic drift NEVER says anything like that about Sonic using a car to make the race fair. All it says is that it is a kart racing tournament, meaning on-foot racing was off the table to begin with.


* There is a somewhat common joke among the ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' fandom concerning the fact that ''VideoGame/SonicDrift'' (and later on, ''[[VideoGame/SegaSuperstars Sonic and Sega All-Stars Racing]]'') has Sonic, whose defining trait is his SuperSpeed, driving in a race car. While this seems justified, it ignores that the manual for ''Drift'' clarifies that Sonic does dislike cars, and it's clear in both games that he's only using a car to keep the competition balanced for all the other racers. ''Racing Transformed'' also has [[WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph Ralph]] [[LampshadeHanging note the irony of Sonic using a car.]]



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* There is a somewhat common joke among the ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' fandom concerning the fact that ''VideoGame/SonicDrift'' (and later on, ''[[VideoGame/SegaSuperstars Sonic and Sega All-Stars Racing]]'') has Sonic, whose defining trait is his SuperSpeed, driving in a race car. While this seems justified, it ignores that the manual for ''Drift'' clarifies that Sonic does dislike cars, and it's clear in both games that he's only using a car to keep the competition balanced for all the other racers. ''Racing Transformed'' also has [[WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph Ralph]] [[LampshadeHanging note the irony of Sonic using a car.]]



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* A video PSA retold the ''Cinderella'' story with the genders reversed. At the end, the narrator breaks through mentions how ridiculous the story sounds, suggesting it is sexist to tell the story to children. Quite a few countries actually already have traditional variants of the story where Cinderella is a boy. Marian Roalfe Cox even [[https://www.surlalunefairytales.com/oldsite/cinderella/marianroalfecox/herotales.html collected a few of them]] ''back in 1893.''

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* A video PSA retold the ''Cinderella'' story with the genders reversed. At the end, the narrator breaks through mentions discusses how ridiculous the story sounds, suggesting it the original fairy tale is sexist to tell the story to children.and demeaning towards girls. Quite a few countries actually already have traditional variants of the story where Cinderella is a boy. Marian Roalfe Cox even [[https://www.surlalunefairytales.com/oldsite/cinderella/marianroalfecox/herotales.html collected a few of them]] ''back in 1893.'''' In fact, in some countries, Cinderella was ''traditionally a boy''...it was the popularity of Perrault's heroine that solidified her as a girl.
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* A video PSA retold the ''Cinderella'' story with the genders reversed. At the end, the narrator breaks through mentions how ridiculous the story sounds, suggesting it is sexist to tell the story to children. Quite a few countries actually already have traditional variants of the story where Cinderella is a boy. Marian Roalfe Cox even [[https://www.surlalunefairytales.com/oldsite/cinderella/marianroalfecox/herotales.html collected a few of them]] ''back in 1893.''
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* ''Fanfic/EigaSentaiScanranger'' had [[http://www.oocities.org/tetsuokurata/epi33.html a chapter]] that attempted to parody spy movies, with each of the heroes becoming a pastiche of a well-known character in the genre. The thing is one of them becomes [[Film/AustinPowers Boston Powered, New England Man of Mystery]], and the villain is even outright compared to Dr. Evil. During the big fight at the end "Boston" uses his powers to turn into Fat Bastard, too. It also takes the "don't be a dick" scene from ''Film/XXx'' but doesn't sound any more ironic than the real one, [[note]] It's kind of hard for it to be taken as a joke when you argue for more physical activity for kids [[/note]] really just swapping out the word "dick" with "twit" to keep it family-friendly. [[OldShame The chapter was noticeably left out when the story was reposted elsewhere]], with even the chapter numbers and teasers deliberately moved around to exclude it.

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* ''Fanfic/EigaSentaiScanranger'' had [[http://www.oocities.org/tetsuokurata/epi33.html a chapter]] that attempted to parody spy movies, with each of the heroes becoming a pastiche of a well-known character in the genre. The thing is one of them becomes [[Film/AustinPowers Boston Powered, New England Man of Mystery]], and the villain is even outright compared to Dr. Evil. During the big fight at the end "Boston" uses his powers to turn into Fat Bastard, too. It also takes the "don't be a dick" scene from ''Film/XXx'' but doesn't sound any more ironic than the real one, [[note]] It's kind of one (it's hard for it to be taken as sound like a joke when you argue for more physical activity for kids [[/note]] the new version addresses childhood obesity), really just swapping out the word "dick" with "twit" to keep it family-friendly. [[OldShame The chapter was noticeably left out when the story was reposted elsewhere]], with even the chapter numbers and teasers deliberately moved around to exclude it.
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* Music/{{Eminem}} appeared as Elvis for the music video in "We Made You", and in behind-the-scenes footage, sings a parody of "Jailhouse Rock" to make it about gay men sucking dicks. While Elvis uses a lot more innuendo than this, the song is about this already. In fact, "Jailhouse Rock" had been made in response to a moral panic that Elvis, as a PrettyBoy making black music, was trying to turn the youth of America gay and criminal,[[note]]while forgotten now, 1950s racists conflated blackness and homosexuality due to stereotypes about black criminality and hypersexuality[[/note]] and the song spoofs this by being a HomoeroticSubtext-riddled QueerPeopleAreFunny jam about how much fun it is to be a gay criminal. It's only the use of innuendo rather than blatant statements that separates it from much of Eminem's own work on his MoralGuardian-baiting ''The Marshall Mathers LP'', in which he bragged about being a diabolical [[CorruptionOfAMinor corruptor of children]] causing school shootings and mass delinquency.

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* Music/{{Eminem}} appeared as Elvis for the music video in "We Made You", and in behind-the-scenes footage, sings a parody of "Jailhouse Rock" to make it about gay men sucking dicks. While Elvis uses a lot more innuendo than this, the song is about this already. In fact, "Jailhouse Rock" had been made in response to a moral panic that Elvis, as a PrettyBoy making black music, was trying to turn the youth of America gay and criminal,[[note]]while forgotten now, 1950s racists conflated blackness and homosexuality due to stereotypes about black criminality and hypersexuality[[/note]] and the song spoofs this by being a HomoeroticSubtext-riddled QueerPeopleAreFunny jam about how much fun it is to be a gay criminal.criminal ("Number 47 said to Number 3, 'you're the cutest jailbird I ever did see'"). It's only the use of innuendo rather than blatant statements that separates it from much of Eminem's own work on his MoralGuardian-baiting ''The Marshall Mathers LP'', in which he bragged about being a diabolical [[CorruptionOfAMinor corruptor of children]] causing school shootings and mass delinquency.
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* The Website/YouTube meme of taking isolated vocal tracks of classic songs and running them through Microsoft's Songsmith program has led to some hilarious musical juxtapositions ([[Music/OzzyOsbourne "Crazy Train"]] as bluegrass, [[Music/{{Motorhead}} "Ace of Spades"]] as folk-pop). The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kxqMpGAL3I lounge jazz version of "Runnin' with the Devil"]] by Music/VanHalen is amusing, but David Lee Roth did several loungey {{Cover Version}}s in his solo career ("Just a Gigolo", "That's Life"), and he even released an [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strummin%27_with_the_Devil:_The_Southern_Side_of_Van_Halen album of Van Halen hits rearranged as bluegrass versions]] in 2006, so it's not really that outlandish of an idea.

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* The Website/YouTube meme of taking isolated vocal tracks of classic songs and running them through Microsoft's Songsmith program has program, which would then generate a new musical backing, led to some hilarious musical juxtapositions hilariously bizarre rearrangements ([[Music/OzzyOsbourne "Crazy Train"]] as bluegrass, [[Music/{{Motorhead}} "Ace of Spades"]] as folk-pop).folk-pop, [[Music/{{Queen}} "We Will Rock You"]] as samba), but others were actually similar to other material that the artists in question have actually done. The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kxqMpGAL3I lounge jazz version of "Runnin' with the Devil"]] by Music/VanHalen is amusing, but David Lee Roth did several loungey {{Cover Version}}s in his solo career ("Just a Gigolo", "That's Life"), and he even released an [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strummin%27_with_the_Devil:_The_Southern_Side_of_Van_Halen album of Van Halen hits rearranged as bluegrass versions]] in 2006, so it's not really that outlandish 2006. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe0QjiXrspA "God Only Knows" as]] SynthPop absolutely sounds like something Music/TheBeachBoys might've tried in TheEighties, with a bit of an idea.a resemblance to their 1985 hit "Getcha Back"; as one commenter puts it, "This is what would have happened if Music/MikeLove was put in charge of the 80s remaster of ''Music/PetSounds''."
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* The DefendPopPunk shirts put out by the band Man Overboard popular in the [[TheNewTens early 2010s]] were both taken seriously by some as a legitimate movement while mocked by others for being so adamant about something like pop punk to begin with. But the shirts were a parody of a [[ParodyDisplacement rather obscure and then mostly forgotten shirt]] put out by the early {{Metalcore}} band Indecision with a similar design and the slogan "Defend Hardcore". And even ''this'' shirt was a parody of a similarly designed shirt popular in the 80s labeled "Defend Brooklyn".
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* {{Emo}} song titles are often parodied and joked about for being long, rambling, [[RefrainFromAssuming not appearing in the lyrics]] and often having little to do with the lyrics to begin with, it seems like every couple months a joke about this goes viral on social media. While this is true of many bands' song titles, this trend started in emo as a sort of joke [[AffectionateParody both poking fun at and serving as a homage to]] similar song titles in various subgenres of [[HardcorePunk Hardcore]].

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* {{Emo}} song titles are often parodied and joked about for being long, rambling, [[RefrainFromAssuming not appearing in the lyrics]] and often having little to do with the lyrics to begin with, it seems like every couple months a joke about this goes viral on social media. While this is true of many bands' song titles, this trend started in emo as a sort of joke [[AffectionateParody both poking fun at and serving as a homage to]] similar song titles in various subgenres of [[HardcorePunk Hardcore]]. Jokes about them being silly and pretentious ignores the fact that this was always the intention.
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* {{Emo}} song titles are often parodied and joked about for being long, rambling, [[RefrainFromAssuming not appearing in the lyrics]] and often having little to do with the lyrics to begin with, it seems like every couple months a joke about this goes viral on social media. While this is true of many bands' song titles, this trend started in emo as a sort of joke [[AffectionateParody both poking fun at and serving as a homage to]] similar song titles in various subgenres of Music/Hardcore.

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* {{Emo}} song titles are often parodied and joked about for being long, rambling, [[RefrainFromAssuming not appearing in the lyrics]] and often having little to do with the lyrics to begin with, it seems like every couple months a joke about this goes viral on social media. While this is true of many bands' song titles, this trend started in emo as a sort of joke [[AffectionateParody both poking fun at and serving as a homage to]] similar song titles in various subgenres of Music/Hardcore.[[HardcorePunk Hardcore]].
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* Music/Emo song titles are often parodied and joked about for being long, rambling, [[RefrainFromAssuming not appearing in the lyrics]] and often having little to do with the lyrics to begin with, it seems like every couple months a joke about this goes viral on social media. While this is true of many bands' song titles, this trend started in emo as a sort of joke [[AffectionateParody both poking fun at and serving as a homage to]] similar song titles in various subgenres of Music/Hardcore.

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* Music/Emo {{Emo}} song titles are often parodied and joked about for being long, rambling, [[RefrainFromAssuming not appearing in the lyrics]] and often having little to do with the lyrics to begin with, it seems like every couple months a joke about this goes viral on social media. While this is true of many bands' song titles, this trend started in emo as a sort of joke [[AffectionateParody both poking fun at and serving as a homage to]] similar song titles in various subgenres of Music/Hardcore.
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* Music/Emo song titles are often parodied and joked about for being long, rambling, [[RefrainFromAssuming not appearing in the lyrics]] and often having little to do with the lyrics to begin with, it seems like every couple months a joke about this goes viral on social media. While this is true of many bands' song titles, this trend started in emo as a sort of joke [[AffectionateParody both poking fun at and serving as a homage to]] similar song titles in various subgenres of Music/Hardcore.
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* The notorious ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' mod ''VideoGame/TheFrontier'' came under fire for a scene where the player character can [[spoiler:forcibly enslave a mentally ill woman]]. The developers, when called on it, claimed that they were trying to subvert the long-standing Fallout tradition of dialogue options requiring a Speech check being the best option, since blindly going for the Speech check [[spoiler:is how you enslave America]]. The problem is that not only is the dialogue option that ''starts'' this sequence ''not'' a Speech check, but the original game already has ''two'' sequences that do the same thing better - during one of the Boomers' sidequests, choosing the Speech check in one section ''talks someone into getting themselves blown up'', failing the sidequest on the spot, and in the ''Dead Money'' DLC, picking a speech check during your first interaction with Dean Domino results in him turning on you at the end, because he becomes convinced you're going to pull a fast one on him.

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* The notorious ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' mod ''VideoGame/TheFrontier'' came under fire for a scene where the player character can [[spoiler:forcibly enslave a mentally ill woman]]. The developers, when called on it, claimed that they were trying to subvert the long-standing Fallout tradition of dialogue options requiring a Speech check being the best option, since blindly going for the Speech check [[spoiler:is how you enslave America]]. The problem is that not only is the dialogue option that ''starts'' this sequence ''not'' a Speech check, but the original game already has ''two'' sequences that do the same thing better - during one of the Boomers' sidequests, Boomers sidequest "Young Hearts", choosing the Speech check in one section ''talks someone into getting themselves while talking to Janet will ''get her blown up'', instantly failing the sidequest on the spot, quest, and in the ''Dead Money'' DLC, picking a speech check during your first interaction with Dean Domino results in him turning on you at the end, because he becomes convinced you're going to pull a fast one on him.

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* There is a somewhat common joke among the ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' fandom concerning the fact that ''VideoGame/SonicDrift'' (and later on, ''[[VideoGame/SegaSuperstars Sonic and Sega All-Stars Racing]]'') has Sonic, whose defining trait is his SuperSpeed, driving in a race car. While this seems justified, it ignores that the manual for ''Drift'' clarifies that Sonic does dislike cars, and it's clear in both games that he's only using a car to keep the competition balanced for all the other racers. ''Racing Transformed'' also has [[WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph Ralph]] [[LampshadeHanging note the irony of Sonic using a car.]]
* ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'':
** Most non-satirical attempts to make the franchise DarkerAndEdgier fall kind of flat, considering that even the main series installments (to say nothing of spin-offs and other official adaptations) have had everything from terrorist bombings, to child abuse, to multiple accounts of attempted genocide. In most cases, these ideas could be the plots of actual Pokémon games if you removed the added sexual content, violence, and [[ObligatorySwearing profanity of questionable necessity]].
** Comparisons between Pokémon battles and cockfighting fall into this category: the plot of ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'' outright ''revolves around'' the questionable ethics of catching the eponymous creatures and having them battle each other. Most blatantly, PETA made this the focus of one of their parody games... while specifically parodying the exact game which already examined the topic... and [[MisaimedFandom praising and comparing themselves to]] the villainous AnimalWrongsGroup from said game.
** Another theme in dark parodies is humans eating Pokémon or Pokémon eating each other. Pokémon edibility has been canon for years, with Pokédex entries remarking on how certain species eat one another (sometimes violently) or are eaten by humans, and in ''VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver'' the poaching of Slowpoke to eat their tails is a plot point.
** When ''VideoGame/PokemonLegendsArceus'' was leaked, Typhlosion's Hisuian form was the subject of jokes that it was TheStoner due to its facial expression. According to [[https://legends.pokemon.com/en-us/pokemon/typhlosion/ the official website]], it's supposed to have a stoner-like personality.

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* There is a somewhat common joke among the ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' fandom concerning the fact that ''VideoGame/SonicDrift'' (and later on, ''[[VideoGame/SegaSuperstars Sonic and Sega All-Stars Racing]]'') has Sonic, whose defining trait is his SuperSpeed, driving in a race car. While this seems justified, it ignores that the manual for ''Drift'' clarifies that Sonic does dislike cars, and it's clear in both games that he's only using a car to keep the competition balanced for all the other racers. ''Racing Transformed'' also has [[WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph Ralph]] [[LampshadeHanging note the irony of Sonic using a car.]]
* ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'':
** Most non-satirical attempts to make the franchise DarkerAndEdgier fall kind of flat, considering that even the main series installments (to say nothing of spin-offs and other official adaptations)
''VideoGame/AnimalCrossing'' parodies usually have had everything from terrorist bombings, to child abuse, to multiple accounts of attempted genocide. In most cases, these ideas could be Isabelle as the plots of actual Pokémon games if you removed jaded, overworked HypercompetentSidekick to the added sexual content, violence, and [[ObligatorySwearing profanity of questionable necessity]].
** Comparisons between Pokémon battles and cockfighting fall into this category: the plot of ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'' outright ''revolves around'' the questionable ethics of catching the eponymous creatures and having them battle each other. Most blatantly, PETA made this the focus of one of their parody games... while specifically parodying the exact game which
''New Leaf'' player character's bumbling mayor. This was already examined joked about in-series with two completely different characters: Phyllis, the topic... and [[MisaimedFandom praising and comparing jaded, overworked, nightshift-running pelican at the town hall/post office, who picked up the slack from Tortimer, the bumbling mayor from the Nintendo 64 game to ''Wild World''/''City Folk''. The idea of a normally cheerful character turning out to be a StepfordSmiler has also been Zipper T. Bunny's gimmick since his debut.
* The notorious ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' mod ''VideoGame/TheFrontier'' came under fire for a scene where the player character can [[spoiler:forcibly enslave a mentally ill woman]]. The developers, when called on it, claimed that they were trying to subvert the long-standing Fallout tradition of dialogue options requiring a Speech check being the best option, since blindly going for the Speech check [[spoiler:is how you enslave America]]. The problem is that not only is the dialogue option that ''starts'' this sequence ''not'' a Speech check, but the original game already has ''two'' sequences that do the same thing better - during one of the Boomers' sidequests, choosing the Speech check in one section ''talks someone into getting
themselves to]] blown up'', failing the villainous AnimalWrongsGroup from said game.
** Another theme in dark parodies is humans eating Pokémon or Pokémon eating each other. Pokémon edibility has been canon for years, with Pokédex entries remarking
sidequest on how certain species eat one another (sometimes violently) or are eaten by humans, the spot, and in ''VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver'' the poaching of Slowpoke to eat their tails is ''Dead Money'' DLC, picking a plot point.
** When ''VideoGame/PokemonLegendsArceus'' was leaked, Typhlosion's Hisuian form was
speech check during your first interaction with Dean Domino results in him turning on you at the subject of jokes that it was TheStoner due end, because he becomes convinced you're going to its facial expression. According to [[https://legends.pokemon.com/en-us/pokemon/typhlosion/ the official website]], it's supposed to have pull a stoner-like personality.fast one on him.



* When talking about ''VideoGame/GuitarHero'' and ''VideoGame/RockBand'', it's common to make fun of the implausibility of achieving worldwide fame and success by exclusively playing note-for-note covers of already-famous songs, a joke that loses its bite when one remembers that the win screen of the very first Guitar Hero made this joke itself as the player character is quoted "Never thought I'd get this far playing covers."



* ''VideoGame/AnimalCrossing'' parodies usually have Isabelle as the jaded, overworked HypercompetentSidekick to the ''New Leaf'' player character's bumbling mayor. This was already joked about in-series with two completely different characters: Phyllis, the jaded, overworked, nightshift-running pelican at the town hall/post office, who picked up the slack from Tortimer, the bumbling mayor from the Nintendo 64 game to ''Wild World''/''City Folk''. The idea of a normally cheerful character turning out to be a StepfordSmiler has also been Zipper T. Bunny's gimmick since his debut.
* ''Franchise/{{Persona}}'':
** Many parodies of ''VideoGame/Persona3'' focus on how weird and disturbing the Evokers are, gun-shaped devices that allow the user to summon their Persona by shooting themselves in the head. The weirdness of Evokers is commented on a few times in ''Persona 3'' itself, and crossover spinoffs will ''[[OnceAnEpisode always]]'' have a member of another game's party point this out.
** Parodies of the [[LevelUpAtIntimacy5 Social Link system]] and the protagonist being TheCasanova. ''Anime/Persona4TheAnimation'' had [[Recap/Persona4Ep13AStormySummerVacation1 Episode 13]] and [[Recap/Persona4Ep14AStormySummerVacation2 14]] as a two-parter that mocks how weird a day of Social Linking (and other in-game activities like [[MundaneMadeAwesome fishing]]) looks to an outside observer, and both it and spinoffs frequently parody the protagonist's Casanova reputation.
* Parodies about the car bonus stage from ''VideoGame/StreetFighterII'' often feature jokes about how the poor shmuck who owned that car will be horrified once he comes back and sees you've junked it. Except... this is based on a similar minigame from ''VideoGame/FinalFight'' (which ''Street Fighter'' [[SharedUniverse shares a universe with]]), which makes exactly this joke at the end.



* The notorious ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' mod ''VideoGame/TheFrontier'' came under fire for a scene where the player character can [[spoiler:forcibly enslave a mentally ill woman]]. The developers, when called on it, claimed that they were trying to subvert the long-standing Fallout tradition of dialogue options requiring a Speech check being the best option, since blindly going for the Speech check [[spoiler:is how you enslave America]]. The problem is that not only is the dialogue option that ''starts'' this sequence ''not'' a Speech check, but the original game already has ''two'' sequences that do the same thing better - during one of the Boomers' sidequests, choosing the Speech check in one section ''talks someone into getting themselves blown up'', failing the sidequest on the spot, and in the ''Dead Money'' DLC, picking a speech check during your first interaction with Dean Domino results in him turning on you at the end, because he becomes convinced you're going to pull a fast one on him.

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* The notorious ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' mod ''VideoGame/TheFrontier'' came under fire for a scene where ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'':
** Most non-satirical attempts to make
the player character can [[spoiler:forcibly enslave a mentally ill woman]]. The developers, when called on it, claimed franchise DarkerAndEdgier fall kind of flat, considering that they were trying to subvert even the long-standing Fallout tradition main series installments (to say nothing of dialogue options requiring a Speech check being spin-offs and other official adaptations) have had everything from terrorist bombings, to child abuse, to multiple accounts of attempted genocide. In most cases, these ideas could be the best option, since blindly going for plots of actual Pokémon games if you removed the Speech check [[spoiler:is how you enslave America]]. The problem is that not only is the dialogue option that ''starts'' added sexual content, violence, and [[ObligatorySwearing profanity of questionable necessity]].
** Comparisons between Pokémon battles and cockfighting fall into
this sequence ''not'' a Speech check, but category: the original plot of ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'' outright ''revolves around'' the questionable ethics of catching the eponymous creatures and having them battle each other. Most blatantly, PETA made this the focus of one of their parody games... while specifically parodying the exact game which already has ''two'' sequences that do examined the same thing better - during one of the Boomers' sidequests, choosing the Speech check in one section ''talks someone into getting topic... and [[MisaimedFandom praising and comparing themselves blown up'', failing to]] the sidequest villainous AnimalWrongsGroup from said game.
** Another theme in dark parodies is humans eating Pokémon or Pokémon eating each other. Pokémon edibility has been canon for years, with Pokédex entries remarking
on the spot, how certain species eat one another (sometimes violently) or are eaten by humans, and in ''VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver'' the ''Dead Money'' DLC, picking poaching of Slowpoke to eat their tails is a speech check during your first interaction with Dean Domino results plot point.
** When ''VideoGame/PokemonLegendsArceus'' was leaked, Typhlosion's Hisuian form was the subject of jokes that it was TheStoner due to its facial expression. According to [[https://legends.pokemon.com/en-us/pokemon/typhlosion/ the official website]], it's supposed to have a stoner-like personality.
* ''Franchise/{{Persona}}'':
** Many parodies of ''VideoGame/Persona3'' focus on how weird and disturbing the Evokers are, gun-shaped devices that allow the user to summon their Persona by shooting themselves
in him turning the head. The weirdness of Evokers is commented on you a few times in ''Persona 3'' itself, and crossover spinoffs will ''[[OnceAnEpisode always]]'' have a member of another game's party point this out.
** Parodies of the [[LevelUpAtIntimacy5 Social Link system]] and the protagonist being TheCasanova. ''Anime/Persona4TheAnimation'' had [[Recap/Persona4Ep13AStormySummerVacation1 Episode 13]] and [[Recap/Persona4Ep14AStormySummerVacation2 14]] as a two-parter that mocks how weird a day of Social Linking (and other in-game activities like [[MundaneMadeAwesome fishing]]) looks to an outside observer, and both it and spinoffs frequently parody the protagonist's Casanova reputation.
* Parodies about the car bonus stage from ''VideoGame/StreetFighterII'' often feature jokes about how the poor shmuck who owned that car will be horrified once he comes back and sees you've junked it. Except... this is based on a similar minigame from ''VideoGame/FinalFight'' (which ''Street Fighter'' [[SharedUniverse shares a universe with]]), which makes exactly this joke
at the end, because he becomes convinced you're going end.
* There is a somewhat common joke among the ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' fandom concerning the fact that ''VideoGame/SonicDrift'' (and later on, ''[[VideoGame/SegaSuperstars Sonic and Sega All-Stars Racing]]'') has Sonic, whose defining trait is his SuperSpeed, driving in a race car. While this seems justified, it ignores that the manual for ''Drift'' clarifies that Sonic does dislike cars, and it's clear in both games that he's only using a car
to pull keep the competition balanced for all the other racers. ''Racing Transformed'' also has [[WesternAnimation/WreckItRalph Ralph]] [[LampshadeHanging note the irony of Sonic using a fast one on him.car.]]


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* ''Webcomic/VirginVsChad'': One variant of the Virgin is the Virgin Chad, a guy who is so insecure about his masculinity that he deliberately does (or says he does) the opposite of whatever the public deems uncool, unlike the Chad Virgin who doesn't care what anyone else thinks about him. In the original image macro that spawned the meme, the Chad avoided "Virgin" activities like being considerate of others, listening to music, and looking at the ground, while the Virgin was simply trying to live his life. The only difference between Chad and the Virgin Chad was which one was depicted uglier.



* WebOriginal/VirginVsChad: One variant of the Virgin is the Virgin Chad, a guy who is so insecure about his masculinity that he deliberately does (or says he does) the opposite of whatever the public deems uncool, unlike the Chad Virgin who doesn't care what anyone else thinks about him. In the original image macro that spawned the meme, the Chad avoided "Virgin" activities like being considerate of others, listening to music, and looking at the ground, while the Virgin was simply trying to live his life. The only difference between Chad and the Virgin Chad was which one was depicted uglier.
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Note that sometimes this can be accomplished less through [[ShotForShotRemake exact replication]] and more through the subtle changes that are made. The lack of a proper punchline is key to AntiHumor. Replicating a classic scene through swapping out certain archetypes can create comedy through absurdity, such as replacing a GiantMook with a CuteBruiser in a fight scene. And there may be a novelty in taking established characters and having them [[UniversalAdaptorCast act out a classic story]].
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* The creators of ''Theatre/HolyMusicalBatman'' decided not to include ComicBook/TheJoker for this reason, since there's very little jokes to be made about the character that haven't already been done, either by other parodies or by the source material. Instead, they used little-known DC villain Sweet Tooth, giving him a PracticallyJoker makeover that split the difference; they got the fun of the Joker-Batman rivalry, complete with a ComicBook/HarleyQuinn {{expy}}, but using a different character with a different schtick (candy instead of practical jokes) gave them the freedom to do their own thing with it.
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* The notorious ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' mod ''VideoGame/TheFrontier'' came under fire for a scene where the player character can [[spoiler:forcibly enslave a mentally ill woman]]. The developers, when called on it, claimed that they were trying to subvert the long-standing Fallout tradition of dialogue options requiring a Speech check being the best option, since blindly going for the Speech check [[spoiler:is how you enslave America]]. The problem is that not only is the dialogue option that ''starts'' the [[spoiler:enslavement]] sequence ''not'' a Speech check, but the original game already ''had'' a sequence that did the same thing better - during the Bomber sidequest, choosing the Speech check in one section ''talks someone into blowing themselves up'', failing the sidequest on the spot.

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* The notorious ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'' mod ''VideoGame/TheFrontier'' came under fire for a scene where the player character can [[spoiler:forcibly enslave a mentally ill woman]]. The developers, when called on it, claimed that they were trying to subvert the long-standing Fallout tradition of dialogue options requiring a Speech check being the best option, since blindly going for the Speech check [[spoiler:is how you enslave America]]. The problem is that not only is the dialogue option that ''starts'' the [[spoiler:enslavement]] this sequence ''not'' a Speech check, but the original game already ''had'' a sequence has ''two'' sequences that did do the same thing better - during one of the Bomber sidequest, Boomers' sidequests, choosing the Speech check in one section ''talks someone into blowing getting themselves blown up'', failing the sidequest on the spot.spot, and in the ''Dead Money'' DLC, picking a speech check during your first interaction with Dean Domino results in him turning on you at the end, because he becomes convinced you're going to pull a fast one on him.
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** Stupidly big swords. Cloud's sword in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' was deliberately designed to look ridiculous (if in a {{Camp}}ily cool way), to reflect that Cloud is a [[AttentionWhore cocky showoff]] and [[CompensatingForSomething overcompensating]]. The [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIIRemake remake]] further parodies its impractical size when Cloud tries to pull it out when standing under a door frame. He hits the frame.

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** Stupidly big swords. Cloud's sword in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'' was deliberately designed to look ridiculous (if in a {{Camp}}ily cool way), to reflect that Cloud is a [[AttentionWhore cocky showoff]] and [[CompensatingForSomething overcompensating]]. The [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIIRemake remake]] further parodies its impractical size when Cloud tries to pull it out when standing under a door frame. He hits the frame.frame and has to back out of it to get enough room to draw his sword.
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* ''Literature/StarWarped'', a ''Franchise/StarWars'' parody by Adam Roberts, have it's Jabba the Hutt expy depicted as a gigantic, sentient pizza-like alien literally made of cheese and pepperoni - a joke already made by ''Film/{{Spaceballs}}'' nearly two decades earlier.

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The modern monopoly isn't the satirical Landlords Game anymore, so the parodies are more of a "return to the roots" than purely redundant. Hiimdaisy's first example is clearly a very intentional and malicious jab at the games story, so it's more of a mean-spirited spoofed by their own words. The other example is definetly acting like the author thought of something the game didn't.


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* ''TabletopGame/{{Monopoly}}'' has inspired many parodies that joke about it representing "the evils of capitalism", along with a game called "Anti-Monopoly" that depicts the monopolists as the bad guys. While this fits the vast majority of modern versions of the game, this was the original version's ''entire point.'' Anyone who has played by the rules as written knows that once any single player has a noticeable advantage, [[UnstableEquilibrium that player is virtually guaranteed to multiply that advantage and bankrupt everybody else in a relatively short time]]. That's deliberate.
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* ''Webcomic/{{Hiimdaisy}}'' makes a joke at one point in the ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'' comics about six-year-old Nanako spending all her time singing the Junes ad jingle to [[ParentalNeglect make herself feel less alone]], which the protagonist finds disturbing. This would be funnier if that wasn't already acknowledged in the game - Nanako's loneliness, to the point the Junes commercials are the bright spot in her day, is a big point of her character.
** Later on, there's an [[OverlyLongGag extended sequence]] where the protagonist tries to convince his friends to stop the latest victim ''before'' the victim declares "YOU'RE NOT ME!", which will make the Shadow version of them go berserk. This actually comes up during the [[spoiler:Shadow Naoto]] fight in the game - Kanji stops the others shouting for [[spoiler:Naoto]] not to say it, pointing out that they just aren't going to listen given the emotional turmoil they're experiencing (and although he doesn't point it out, ''none'' of the victims ever listen), and instead the Investigation Team should just let it happen and beat down the Shadow afterward.

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* ''Webcomic/{{Hiimdaisy}}'' makes a joke at one point in the ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'' comics about six-year-old Nanako spending all her time singing the Junes ad jingle to [[ParentalNeglect make herself feel less alone]], which the protagonist finds disturbing. This would be funnier if that wasn't already acknowledged in the game - Nanako's loneliness, to the point the Junes commercials are the bright spot in her day, is a big point of her character.
** Later on, there's
an [[OverlyLongGag extended sequence]] where the protagonist tries to convince his friends to stop the latest victim ''before'' the victim declares "YOU'RE NOT ME!", which will make the Shadow version of them go berserk. This actually comes up during the [[spoiler:Shadow Naoto]] fight in the game - Kanji stops the others shouting for [[spoiler:Naoto]] not to say it, pointing out that they just aren't going to listen given the emotional turmoil they're experiencing (and although he doesn't point it out, ''none'' of the victims ever listen), and instead the Investigation Team should just let it happen and beat down the Shadow afterward.
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* There are numerous [[https://www.salon.com/2012/04/09/kinkades_world_of_parody/ irreverent parodies]] of the works of Thomas Kinkade that insert various characters from pop culture ([[Film/BackToTheFuture Marty and Doc Brown]], [[Literature/CthulhuMythos Cthulhu]], [[Literature/TheLordOfTheRings the Nazghul]], etc.) into his paintings. In fact, Thomas Kinkade Studios actually ''does'' sell paintings of characters and scenes from popular culture, including paintings of Creator/DCComics superheroes and various Creator/{{Disney}} characters. Amusingly: [[https://www.boredpanda.com/star-wars-kinkade-jeff-bennett-painting-mashup/ one of the most popular]] subgenres of parody features characters from ''Franchise/StarWars'' "invading" Kinkade's famously saccharine nature scenes. There's a whole selection of ''Star Wars'' paintings available for purchase on Kinkade's website, many of which aren't ''that'' different from the parodies.

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* There are numerous [[https://www.salon.com/2012/04/09/kinkades_world_of_parody/ irreverent parodies]] of the works of Thomas Kinkade that insert various characters from pop culture ([[Film/BackToTheFuture ([[Franchise/BackToTheFuture Marty and Doc Brown]], [[Literature/CthulhuMythos Cthulhu]], [[Literature/TheLordOfTheRings the Nazghul]], etc.) into his paintings. In fact, Thomas Kinkade Studios actually ''does'' sell paintings of characters and scenes from popular culture, including paintings of Creator/DCComics superheroes and various Creator/{{Disney}} characters. Amusingly: [[https://www.boredpanda.com/star-wars-kinkade-jeff-bennett-painting-mashup/ one of the most popular]] subgenres of parody features characters from ''Franchise/StarWars'' "invading" Kinkade's famously saccharine nature scenes. There's a whole selection of ''Star Wars'' paintings available for purchase on Kinkade's website, many of which aren't ''that'' different from the parodies.



* A somewhat common criticism of ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy''[='=]s {{Cutaway Gag}}s post-cancellation and revival is that they come off as this sometimes. Compare, say, a gag from Season 2's "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS2E19TheStoryOnPageOne The Story on Page One]]" (Peter works as a Franchise/{{Ghostbuster|s}}, but ends up busting the completely benign [[Film/Ghost1990 Sam Wheat]]) to one from Season's 7 "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS7E4BabyNotOnBoard Baby Not On Board]]" (a direct recreation of part of the opening to ''Film/BackToTheFuture'', just with Peter in place of Marty [=McFly=]).

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* A somewhat common criticism of ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy''[='=]s {{Cutaway Gag}}s post-cancellation and revival is that they come off as this sometimes. Compare, say, a gag from Season 2's "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS2E19TheStoryOnPageOne The Story on Page One]]" (Peter works as a Franchise/{{Ghostbuster|s}}, but ends up busting the completely benign [[Film/Ghost1990 Sam Wheat]]) to one from Season's 7 "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS7E4BabyNotOnBoard Baby Not On Board]]" (a direct recreation of part of the opening to ''Film/BackToTheFuture'', ''Film/BackToTheFuture1'', just with Peter in place of Marty [=McFly=]).
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* ''Literature/StarWarpe3d'', a ''Franchise/StarWars'' parody by Adam Roberts, have it's Jabba the Hutt expy depicted as a gigantic, sentient pizza-like alien being literally made of cheese and pepperoni - a joke already made by ''Film/{{Spaceballs}}'' nearly two decades earlier.

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* ''Literature/StarWarpe3d'', ''Literature/StarWarped'', a ''Franchise/StarWars'' parody by Adam Roberts, have it's Jabba the Hutt expy depicted as a gigantic, sentient pizza-like alien being literally made of cheese and pepperoni - a joke already made by ''Film/{{Spaceballs}}'' nearly two decades earlier.
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* ''Literature/StarWarpe3d'', a ''Franchise/StarWars'' parody by Adam Roberts, have it's Jabba the Hutt expy depicted as a gigantic, sentient pizza-like alien being literally made of cheese and pepperoni - a joke already made by ''Film/{{Spaceballs}}'' nearly two decades earlier.
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** [[InvertedTrope Inverted]] and HilariousInHindsight with a ''WesternAnimation/{{Shrek}}''-scenes-we'd-like-to-see comic written when the first movie was released. It shows Donkey with dragon/donkey hybrid babies, which became a reality in the sequels.

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** [[InvertedTrope Inverted]] and HilariousInHindsight with a ''WesternAnimation/{{Shrek}}''-scenes-we'd-like-to-see ''WesternAnimation/Shrek1''-scenes-we'd-like-to-see comic written when the first movie was released. It shows Donkey with dragon/donkey hybrid babies, which became a reality in the sequels.
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** ''Film/EpicMovie'' decided to parody ''Film/XMen1'' by having Wolverine position his claws to look like he was FlippingTheBird, even though [[http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=af08 this same joke was used at one point in the original movie.]] And it was a pretty memorable moment, so it just goes to show that nobody involved had seen ''X-Men'' even once. And just to add insult to injury, as the page image shows, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STJiVO0zu7k the original did it]] ''much'' better.

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** ''Film/EpicMovie'' ''Film/EpicMovie2007'' decided to parody ''Film/XMen1'' by having Wolverine position his claws to look like he was FlippingTheBird, even though [[http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=af08 this same joke was used at one point in the original movie.]] And it was a pretty memorable moment, so it just goes to show that nobody involved had seen ''X-Men'' even once. And just to add insult to injury, as the page image shows, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STJiVO0zu7k the original did it]] ''much'' better.
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** A 2020 episode guest-hosted by Creator/DanielCraig had a digital short, a "deleted scene" from the upcoming ''Film/NoTimeToDie'',[[note]]which was initially postponed to November 2020 due to the COVID-19 pandemic before being pushed to October 2021.[[/note]] with Chloe Fineman as Creator/AnaDeArmas who leads Bond into the casino... [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome which is actually closer to what Las Vegas casinos are really like]], complete with drunk and rowdy gamblers. However, the Bond film ''Film/DiamondsAreForever'' is not only largely set in Vegas, but also makes a point about how Bond's style makes him stand out among Americans when we see him in a casino.

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** A 2020 episode guest-hosted by Creator/DanielCraig had a digital short, a "deleted scene" from the upcoming ''Film/NoTimeToDie'',[[note]]which was initially postponed to November 2020 due to the COVID-19 pandemic before being pushed to October 2021.[[/note]] with Chloe Fineman as Creator/AnaDeArmas who leads Bond into the casino... [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome which is actually closer to what Las Vegas casinos are really like]], complete with drunk and rowdy gamblers. However, the Bond film ''Film/DiamondsAreForever'' is not only largely set in Vegas, but also makes a point about how Bond's style makes him stand out among Americans when we see him in a casino. Granted, it's {{downplayed}} from most other examples because the main joke is actually Bond getting [[SidetrackedByTheGoldenSaucer sidetracked by gambling]] and acting ''exactly'' like the drunk & rowdy gamblers instead of actually continuing his mission, much to Fineman's dismay.

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** Not much better than that is a parody of ''Film/{{Borat}}'' -- and by "parody", the film means "direct lift of an exchange from ''Borat'', almost word for word, acted out by a man imitating Borat." And needless to say, ''Borat'' is [[SpoofedTheIronicFilmSeriously already a comedy]].

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** *** Not much better than that is a parody of ''Film/{{Borat}}'' -- and by "parody", the film means "direct lift of an exchange from ''Borat'', almost word for word, acted out by a man imitating Borat." And needless to say, ''Borat'' is [[SpoofedTheIronicFilmSeriously already a comedy]].comedy]].
*** Also, it's revealed that the "chocolate river" in Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory was actually a sewage line full of human feces. This joke was already made in the original film where his guests were disgusted when they saw the river and said it must be a polluted pool of industrial waste, only for Wonka to correct them that it actually ''was'' chocolate. And like ''Borat'', ''Willy Wonka'' basically already was a comedy (albeit not purely so).
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* Pornography studio Wood Rocket is known for producing cheap & quick porn parodies. One day they released ''The Bed Room'', a parody of Tommy Wiseau's ''Film/TheRoom''. But ''The Room'' itself has enough lengthy sex scenes in its first half that it could easily be mistaken as being softcore porn itself. So a lot of people saw ''The Bed Room'' as pointless. WebVideo/TheCinemaSnob addressed this redundancy in his review of ''The Bed Room''.

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* Pornography studio Wood Rocket is known for producing cheap & quick porn parodies. One day they released ''The Bed Room'', a parody of Tommy Wiseau's ''Film/TheRoom''.''Film/TheRoom2003''. But ''The Room'' itself has enough lengthy sex scenes in its first half that it could easily be mistaken as being softcore porn itself. So a lot of people saw ''The Bed Room'' as pointless. WebVideo/TheCinemaSnob addressed this redundancy in his review of ''The Bed Room''.

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