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** Cobain-style vocalists include [[Music/PuddleOfMudd Wes Scantlin]], [[Music/{{Lifehouse}} Jason Wade]], [[Music/TheoryOfADeadman Tyler Connolly]], and [[Music/{{Chevelle}} Pete Loeffler]]. Vedder-style examples include [[Music/CreedBand Scott Stapp]], [[Music/TheCalling Alex Band]], [[Music/{{Staind}} Aaron Lewis]], and [[Music/{{Seether}} Shaun Morgan]]. Staley-style includes [[Music/ThreeDaysGrace Adam Gontier]], [[Music/SixxAM James Michael]], and [[Music/{{Skillet}} John Cooper]].
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** Cobain-style vocalists include [[Music/PuddleOfMudd Wes Scantlin]], [[Music/{{Lifehouse}} Jason Wade]], and [[Music/TheoryOfADeadman Tyler Connolly]], and [[Music/{{Chevelle}} Pete Loeffler]].Connolly]]. Vedder-style examples include [[Music/CreedBand Scott Stapp]], [[Music/TheCalling Alex Band]], [[Music/{{Staind}} Aaron Lewis]], and [[Music/{{Seether}} Shaun Morgan]]. Staley-style includes [[Music/ThreeDaysGrace Adam Gontier]], [[Music/SixxAM James Michael]], and [[Music/{{Skillet}} John Cooper]].
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* Music/SevenMaryThree
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* Have major radio success. Additionally, has at least one song that's all over Top 40 radio and another that's all over rock radio.
* Were huge in their heyday and now plays small clubs and bars, most of which are in third-tier rural markets.
* Were all over the airwaves in '00s but airplay today is limited to "adult contemporary" or "adult alternative" radio, aside from having one or two big hits that still regularly make it onto modern rock stations.
* Were huge in their heyday and now plays small clubs and bars, most of which are in third-tier rural markets.
* Were all over the airwaves in '00s but airplay today is limited to "adult contemporary" or "adult alternative" radio, aside from having one or two big hits that still regularly make it onto modern rock stations.
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* Have major radio success. Additionally, has at least one song that's all over Had a hit single on Top 40 radio and another that's all over rock or adult contemporary radio.
*Were huge Had a Top 10 hit single on mainstream rock radio in the mid 2010s or later.
* Currently plays to a few hundred people at theirheyday and now plays small clubs and bars, most of which are in third-tier rural markets.
* Were all over the airwaves in '00s but airplay today is limited to "adult contemporary" or "adult alternative" radio, aside from having one or two big hits that still regularly make it onto modern rock stations.concert gigs.
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* Currently plays to a few hundred people at their
* Were all over the airwaves in '00s but airplay today is limited to "adult contemporary" or "adult alternative" radio, aside from having one or two big hits that still regularly make it onto modern rock stations.
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* Have [[http://www.last.fm/tag/post-grunge major radio success]]. Additionally, has at least one song that's all over Top 40 radio and another that's all over rock radio.
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* Have [[http://www.last.fm/tag/post-grunge major radio success]].success. Additionally, has at least one song that's all over Top 40 radio and another that's all over rock radio.
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This is so confusing. I don't hear any grunge in LP's sound; if anything they're Faith No More / My Chemical Romance lite.
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* Music/{{Lostprophets}} (A Welsh band who nowadays are notorious for having been fronted by a convicted child predator; overlaps with PostHardcore)
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+ HardRock, NuMetal, HairMetal, GlamRock, BluesRock, GarageRock
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The genre has been known to use the more traditional rock structures often rejected by their predecessors in Grunge, modernized with straightforward, brooding lyrics. In this sense, the movement could be considered ([[{{Irony}} ironically]]) the SpiritualSuccessor to HairMetal, whose pop beats and polished production brought heavy rock to a widespread audience (Post-grunge is also well known for its "soul-searching" ballads). Ironically, many post-grunge bands take more influence from Music/{{Poison}}, Cinderella and Music/{{Whitesnake}} than Music/{{Nirvana}}; post-grunge players generally think of the old grunge-greats as idols/heroes rather than true influences, with more of an interest in stylistic emulation over artistic aspiration (the subtle difference between a direct or indirect influence from grunge can affect how well-received a post-grunge band is, both critically and to their audience). Post-Grunge tends to focus more on conventional lyrical structure than the music itself, often [[WordSaladLyrics the opposite stance of early grunge artists]]. Though the genre is rooted primarily in AlternativeRock, make no mistake, post-grunge was tailor-made for the mainstream, and is what helped Alternative become rooted as 'Mainstream' music. [[note]]Notice that [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Mainstream_Rock_Tracks Billboard's Hot Mainstream Rock Tracks']] record-holders are almost entirely post-grunge bands.[[/note]] In essence, it took no influence from what Grunge was, but took every influence from what Grunge became; a commercial darling.
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The genre has been known to use the more traditional rock structures often rejected by their predecessors in Grunge, modernized with straightforward, brooding lyrics. In this sense, the movement could be considered ([[{{Irony}} ironically]]) the SpiritualSuccessor to HairMetal, whose pop beats and polished production brought heavy rock to a widespread audience (Post-grunge is also well known for its "soul-searching" ballads). Ironically, Indeed, many post-grunge bands take more influence from Music/{{Poison}}, Cinderella and Music/{{Whitesnake}} than Music/{{Nirvana}}; post-grunge players generally think of the old grunge-greats as idols/heroes rather than true influences, with more of an interest in stylistic emulation over artistic aspiration (the subtle difference between a direct or indirect influence from grunge can affect how well-received a post-grunge band is, both critically and to their audience). Post-Grunge tends to focus more on conventional lyrical structure than the music itself, often [[WordSaladLyrics the opposite stance of early grunge artists]]. Though the genre is rooted primarily in AlternativeRock, make no mistake, post-grunge was tailor-made for the mainstream, and is what helped Alternative become rooted as 'Mainstream' music. [[note]]Notice that [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Mainstream_Rock_Tracks Billboard's Hot Mainstream Rock Tracks']] record-holders are almost entirely post-grunge bands.[[/note]] In essence, it took no influence from what Grunge was, but took every influence from what Grunge became; a commercial darling.
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[[PostSomethingism Post]]-grunge is a derivative of {{Grunge}} music that became popular in the late '90s. The genre is primarily marked by its use of the apathetic, droning vocals, downtuned guitars and HardRock[=/=][[PunkRock Punk]] aesthetics commonly associated with Grunge, but removing the more unusual songwriting choices and less commercially-friendly influences from HardcorePunk and NoiseRock that many original grunge artists were known for, in addition to much more mid-tempo songs. In other words, taking, running-with and exploiting the more commercially viable qualities of Grunge while heavily watering down its oddity and offending harshness. Yeah, this genre doesn't go over well with the underground music scene. Its popularity has occasionally caused it to receive blame for AlternativeRock becoming more banal and losing its experimental qualities, as the genre's existence lead to the numerous less glossy bands previously snatched up by major labels after Music/{{Nirvana}}'s breakthrough being unceremoniously dumped[[note]]like Music/{{Boredoms}}, Music/ButtholeSurfers and Music/{{Jawbox}}, to name a few[[/note]].
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[[PostSomethingism Post]]-grunge is a derivative of {{Grunge}} music that became popular in the late '90s. The genre is primarily marked by its use of the apathetic, droning vocals, downtuned guitars and HardRock[=/=][[PunkRock Punk]] aesthetics commonly associated with Grunge, but removing the more unusual songwriting choices and less commercially-friendly influences from HardcorePunk and NoiseRock that many original grunge artists were known for, in addition to much more mid-tempo songs. In other words, taking, running-with and exploiting the more commercially viable qualities of Grunge while heavily watering down its oddity and offending harshness. Yeah, this genre doesn't go over well with the underground music scene. Its popularity has occasionally caused it to receive blame for AlternativeRock becoming more banal and losing its experimental qualities, as the genre's existence lead to the numerous less glossy bands previously snatched up by major labels after Music/{{Nirvana}}'s breakthrough being unceremoniously dumped[[note]]like dumped.[[note]] Like Music/{{Boredoms}}, Music/ButtholeSurfers and Music/{{Jawbox}}, to name a few[[/note]].
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* Come from [[CanadaEh Canada (specifically, British Columbia and Southern Ontario)]], UsefulNotes/{{California}}, [[UsefulNotes/TheOtherRainforest the Pacific Northwest]], and [[FlyoverCountry the Upper Midwest]]. [[DeepSouth The southern]] [[{{Eagleland}} US]] is also optional.
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* Come from [[CanadaEh Canada (specifically, British Columbia and Southern Ontario)]], Ontario), UsefulNotes/{{California}}, [[UsefulNotes/TheOtherRainforest the Pacific Northwest]], and [[FlyoverCountry the Upper Midwest]]. [[DeepSouth The southern]] [[{{Eagleland}} US]] is also optional.
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[[PostSomethingism Post]]-grunge is a derivative of {{Grunge}} music that became popular in the late '90s. The genre is primarily marked by its use of the apathetic, droning vocals, downtuned guitars and HardRock[=/=][[PunkRock Punk]] aesthetics commonly associated with Grunge, but removing the more unusual songwriting and less commercially-friendly influences from HardcorePunk and NoiseRock that many original grunge artists were known for, in addition to much more mid-tempo songs. In other words, taking, running-with and exploiting the more commercially viable qualities of Grunge while heavily watering down its oddity and offending harshness. Yeah, this genre doesn't go over well with the underground music scene. Its popularity has occasionally caused it to receive blame for AlternativeRock becoming more banal and losing its experimental qualities, as the genre's existence lead to the numerous less glossy bands previously snatched up by major labels after Music/{{Nirvana}}'s breakthrough being unceremoniously dumped[[note]]like Music/{{Boredoms}}, Music/ButtholeSurfers and Music/{{Jawbox}}, to name a few[[/note]].
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[[PostSomethingism Post]]-grunge is a derivative of {{Grunge}} music that became popular in the late '90s. The genre is primarily marked by its use of the apathetic, droning vocals, downtuned guitars and HardRock[=/=][[PunkRock Punk]] aesthetics commonly associated with Grunge, but removing the more unusual songwriting choices and less commercially-friendly influences from HardcorePunk and NoiseRock that many original grunge artists were known for, in addition to much more mid-tempo songs. In other words, taking, running-with and exploiting the more commercially viable qualities of Grunge while heavily watering down its oddity and offending harshness. Yeah, this genre doesn't go over well with the underground music scene. Its popularity has occasionally caused it to receive blame for AlternativeRock becoming more banal and losing its experimental qualities, as the genre's existence lead to the numerous less glossy bands previously snatched up by major labels after Music/{{Nirvana}}'s breakthrough being unceremoniously dumped[[note]]like Music/{{Boredoms}}, Music/ButtholeSurfers and Music/{{Jawbox}}, to name a few[[/note]].
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[[PostSomethingism Post]]-grunge is a derivative of {{Grunge}} music that became popular in the late '90s. The genre is primarily marked by its use of the apathetic, droning vocals, downtuned guitars and HardRock[=/=][[PunkRock Punk]] aesthetics commonly associated with Grunge, but removing the more unusual qualities and less commercially-friendly influences from HardcorePunk and NoiseRock that original grunge artists such as Music/{{Soundgarden}} and the Music/{{Melvins}} were known for, in addition to much more mid-tempo songs. In other words, taking, running-with and exploiting the more commercially viable qualities of Grunge while heavily watering down its oddity and offending harshness. Yeah, this genre doesn't go over well with the underground music scene. Its popularity has occasionally caused it to receive blame for AlternativeRock becoming more banal and losing its experimental qualities, as the genre's existence lead to the numerous less glossy bands previously snatched up by major labels after Music/{{Nirvana}}'s breakthrough being unceremoniously dumped[[note]]like Music/{{Boredoms}}, Music/ButtholeSurfers and Music/{{Jawbox}}, to name a few[[/note]].
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[[PostSomethingism Post]]-grunge is a derivative of {{Grunge}} music that became popular in the late '90s. The genre is primarily marked by its use of the apathetic, droning vocals, downtuned guitars and HardRock[=/=][[PunkRock Punk]] aesthetics commonly associated with Grunge, but removing the more unusual qualities songwriting and less commercially-friendly influences from HardcorePunk and NoiseRock that many original grunge artists such as Music/{{Soundgarden}} and the Music/{{Melvins}} were known for, in addition to much more mid-tempo songs. In other words, taking, running-with and exploiting the more commercially viable qualities of Grunge while heavily watering down its oddity and offending harshness. Yeah, this genre doesn't go over well with the underground music scene. Its popularity has occasionally caused it to receive blame for AlternativeRock becoming more banal and losing its experimental qualities, as the genre's existence lead to the numerous less glossy bands previously snatched up by major labels after Music/{{Nirvana}}'s breakthrough being unceremoniously dumped[[note]]like Music/{{Boredoms}}, Music/ButtholeSurfers and Music/{{Jawbox}}, to name a few[[/note]].
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* Music/{{CKY}} (generally regarded as somewhere between here and straight alt-metal or [[GenreBusting something else altogether]], they also have very strong [[DoomMetal stoner]] influences that are very uncommon in this genre)
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* Music/{{Tremonti}} (Side project of Music/{{Creed}} and Music/AlterBridge’s guitarist; less PostGrunge / AlternativeMetal, more PostGrunge ThrashMetal, and one of the consistently heaviest of PostGrunge bands)
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* Music/{{Tremonti}} (Side project of Music/{{Creed}} Music/{{Creed|band}} and Music/AlterBridge’s guitarist; less PostGrunge / AlternativeMetal, more PostGrunge ThrashMetal, and one of the consistently heaviest of PostGrunge bands)
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** Cobain-style vocalists include [[Music/PuddleOfMudd Wes Scantlin]], [[Music/{{Lifehouse}} Jason Wade]], [[Music/TheoryOfADeadman Tyler Connolly]], and [[Music/{{Chevelle}} Pete Loeffler]]. Vedder-style examples include [[Music/{{Creed}} Scott Stapp]], [[Music/TheCalling Alex Band]], [[Music/{{Staind}} Aaron Lewis]], and [[Music/{{Seether}} Shaun Morgan]]. Staley-style includes [[Music/ThreeDaysGrace Adam Gontier]], [[Music/SixxAM James Michael]], and [[Music/{{Skillet}} John Cooper]].
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** Cobain-style vocalists include [[Music/PuddleOfMudd Wes Scantlin]], [[Music/{{Lifehouse}} Jason Wade]], [[Music/TheoryOfADeadman Tyler Connolly]], and [[Music/{{Chevelle}} Pete Loeffler]]. Vedder-style examples include [[Music/{{Creed}} [[Music/CreedBand Scott Stapp]], [[Music/TheCalling Alex Band]], [[Music/{{Staind}} Aaron Lewis]], and [[Music/{{Seether}} Shaun Morgan]]. Staley-style includes [[Music/ThreeDaysGrace Adam Gontier]], [[Music/SixxAM James Michael]], and [[Music/{{Skillet}} John Cooper]].