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* It's a common theme in ''Franchise/ResidentEvil'' that the war against Bioterrorism is hopelessly futile, exemplified through multiple series mainstays having crisis of confidence upon realizing that they're no closer to stopping it than when they started decades ago. Both Leon and Chris turn alcoholic throughout the course of their career; Chris quit the force outright to spend his time getting drunk prior to the event of ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil6'', while Leon neglects his work to do the same during the event of ''Anime/ResidentEvilVendetta''.

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* It's a common theme in the ''Franchise/ResidentEvil'' series that the war against Bioterrorism is hopelessly futile, exemplified through multiple series mainstays having crisis of confidence upon realizing that they're no closer to stopping it than when they started decades ago. Both Leon and Chris turn alcoholic throughout the course of their career; careers to cope with it; Chris quit the force outright to spend his time getting drunk prior to the event of ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil6'', while Leon neglects his work to do the same during the event of ''Anime/ResidentEvilVendetta''.''Anime/ResidentEvilVendetta''. This is even brought up as a plot point during ''Anime/ResidentEvilDeathIsland'', with the main villain ranting that the heroes have only managed to maintain the status quo. As of the latest chronological game in the series, ''VideoGame/ResidentEvilVillage'', the timeline has moved well into the late 2030s and the war against bioterrorism is still ongoing since its start in the 1990s.
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* It's a common theme in ''{{Franchise}}/ResidentEvil'' that the war against Bioterrorism is hopelessly futile, exemplified through multiple series mainstays having crisis of confidence upon realizing that they're no closer to stopping it than when they started decades ago. Both Leon and Chris turn alcoholic throughout the course of their career; Chris quit the force outright to spend his time getting drunk prior to the event of ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil6'', while Leon neglects his work to do the same during the event of ''Anime/ResidentEvilVendetta''.

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* It's a common theme in ''{{Franchise}}/ResidentEvil'' ''Franchise/ResidentEvil'' that the war against Bioterrorism is hopelessly futile, exemplified through multiple series mainstays having crisis of confidence upon realizing that they're no closer to stopping it than when they started decades ago. Both Leon and Chris turn alcoholic throughout the course of their career; Chris quit the force outright to spend his time getting drunk prior to the event of ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil6'', while Leon neglects his work to do the same during the event of ''Anime/ResidentEvilVendetta''.
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* It's a common theme in ''{{Franchise}}/ResidentEvil'' that the war against Bioterrorism is hopelessly futile, exemplified through multiple series mainstays having crisis of confidence upon realizing that they're no closer to stopping it than when they started decades ago. Both Leon and Chris turn alcoholic throughout the course of their career; Chris quit the force outright to spend his time getting drunk prior to the event of ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil6'', while Leon neglects his work to do the same during the event of ''Anime/ResidentEvilVendetta''.
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** Of course, because the film is set as an in-universe Federation propaganda piece, this detail is sunnily glossed over; the deranged general is just dismissed by his troops as a DirtyCoward who just doesn't ''believe'' enough in the Federation victory, which is surely inevitable. I mean, [[FantasticRacism bugs that]] ''[[FantasticRacism think]]''? Preposterous! Now, why are you still here? Join now! Service guarantees citizenship! It's also played with in that the humans are the agressors attacking Bug planets while the Bugs don't seem to have any way to travel between worlds beyond launching spores to seed new colonies; the Federation could literally just stop at any time.
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* In BackStory to "[[Literature/KaneSeries Lynortis Reprise]]", two-year-long siege of Lynortis was this. The city was a fortress high on an unreachable summit and its king made a deal with darklings that provided him with white phosphorus and poisonous gas bombs, while civilians starved in the streets. The attacker, king Masale, threw tens of thousands of people and mighty siege engines to attack the city--and they also died by the thousands. In effect, it was a stalemate but Masale did not want to give up, as Lynortis was the only thing that stood in the way of his conquest. It was so bad that the half-men--maimed survivors from both sides of the conflict, who decided to stay in Lynortis's ruins--worship "The Bringer of Peace", that is the traitor who finally led Masale's armies into the city through hidden passages, even thought it ended in a massacre. The traitor [[spoiler: Kane himself]] was just tired of the slaughter and wanted everything to end.
* ''Literature/TheThreeBodyProblem'': Earth versus Trisolaris is widely expected to be this, given the Trisolarans much greater technology, which humanity can't hope to match thanks to the sophon block. The point is really driven home in book two when [[spoiler:Earth's entire space fleet is wiped out by a single two-meter Trisolaran probe, nine more of which will arrive within three years, followed by a thousand warships in another two centuries.]]

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* ''Literature/KaneSeries'': In BackStory the {{Backstory}} to "[[Literature/KaneSeries Lynortis Reprise]]", "Lynortis Reprise", two-year-long siege of Lynortis was this. The city was a fortress high on an unreachable summit and its king made a deal with darklings that provided him with white phosphorus and poisonous gas bombs, while civilians starved in the streets. The attacker, king Masale, threw tens of thousands of people and mighty siege engines to attack the city--and city -- and they also died by the thousands. In effect, it was a stalemate stalemate, but Masale did not want to give up, as Lynortis was the only thing that stood in the way of his conquest. It was so bad that the half-men--maimed half-men -- maimed survivors from both sides of the conflict, who decided to stay in Lynortis's ruins--worship ruins -- worship "The Bringer of Peace", that is the traitor who finally led Masale's armies into the city through hidden passages, even thought though it ended in a massacre. The traitor [[spoiler: Kane himself]] [[spoiler:(Kane himself)]] was just tired of the slaughter and wanted everything to end.
* ''Literature/TheThreeBodyProblem'': ''Literature/RemembranceOfEarthsPast'': Earth versus Trisolaris is widely expected to be this, given the Trisolarans much greater technology, which humanity can't hope to match thanks to the sophon block. The point is really driven home in book two ''Literature/TheDarkForest'' when [[spoiler:Earth's entire space fleet is wiped out by a single two-meter Trisolaran probe, nine more of which will arrive within three years, followed by a thousand warships in another two centuries.]]centuries]].
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* ''Film/TheMatrix'' franchise has an almost exact similar war going on between humans and machines. [[WMG/GrandUnifyingGuesses Which makes you wonder if the two are somehow related]], only in this one [[HumansAreBastards the humans were the ones who struck first]] with nuclear weapons (it didn't do them a whole lot of good).

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* ''Film/TheMatrix'' franchise has an almost exact similar ''Film/TheMatrix'': The backstory tells about a a war going on between humans and machines. [[WMG/GrandUnifyingGuesses Which makes you wonder if the two are somehow related]], only in this one [[HumansAreBastards In a twist, the humans were the ones who struck first]] first with nuclear weapons (it didn't do them a whole lot of good).



** As for Godzilla himself, the original [[Film/{{Gojira}} 1954 film]] implies that there can't be just one Godzilla. The sequels confirm this showing that there is an ''entire'' species of Godzilla (and a breeding population if Minya and Junior are any indication) meaning that humanity (Japan in particular) is in a constant no-win war against an entire species of enraged radioactive dinosaurs capable of destroying a city within hours.

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** As for Godzilla himself, the * The original [[Film/{{Gojira}} 1954 film]] ''Film/{{Gojira}}'' film implies that there can't be just one Godzilla. The sequels confirm this showing that there is an ''entire'' species of Godzilla (and a breeding population if Minya and Junior are any indication) meaning that humanity (Japan in particular) is in a constant no-win war against an entire species of enraged radioactive dinosaurs capable of destroying a city within hours.

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* In the Anime series ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'' starts off as this. Zeon was effectively fighting a hopeless war vs. the Federation forces, with all of their big cards pretty much played from the start. The stalemate is the sign things is going to go downhill for them. Other {{Hopeless War}}s in Gundam include the First Alliance-PLANT War (where the Alliance had to resort to suicidal last measures just to stave ZAFT off, though the tables were turned when they developed their own Mobile Suits), Kataron vs. A-Laws and the Federation vs. Cosmo Babylon. The losing side being the former respectively.

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* In the Anime series ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'' starts off as this. Zeon was effectively fighting a hopeless war vs. the Federation forces, with all of their big cards pretty much played from the start. The stalemate is the sign things is going to go downhill for them. Other {{Hopeless War}}s in Gundam include the First Alliance-PLANT War (where the Alliance had to resort to suicidal last measures just to stave ZAFT off, though the tables were turned when they developed their own Mobile Suits), Kataron vs. A-Laws and the Federation vs. Cosmo Babylon. The losing side being the former respectively.



* Subverted in the ''Franchise/{{Terminator}}'' franchise (at least [[Film/TheTerminator the first one]]) as there is a Hopeless Robot War fought in the future -- hopeless for the robots, hence the time travel. The war was still quite brutal, and bleak for the humans, as a good chunk of humanity got hit by several [[DepopulationBomb Depopulation Bombs]]. ''Film/TerminatorSalvation'' double subverts it by showing that time traveling has actually made things worse. The T-800s come in a full ten years earlier and humans only have normal weapons (which we all know do ''nothing'' against the 800s), not plasma guns from the first version of the war, and while the main network and production base is destroyed along with a large number of unfinished 800s it's heavily implied Skynet has many many more. However, it would seem Skynet didn't go as heavy on the Nukes this time and the humans have A-10s and tanks. Skynet is also much harder to kill now. The original had one central computer controlling everything which could be destroyed, the one that got started in ''Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines'' was software distributed pretty much everywhere. And ''Film/TerminatorDarkFate'' goes for the hat trick by showing that [[spoiler:the war is an actual universal constant - by the end of the prologue, both SKYNET and John Connor are deader than a doornail [[MeetTheNewBoss and the war just gets a new]] MasterComputer and Resistance leader to take their spots]]. Notably, two of the characters of the cast, [[spoiler:Sarah Connor and "Carl", the last of the SKYNET Terminators]] show some distress at this fact, [[spoiler:which is proof that their efforts were AllForNothing]].

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* Subverted in the ''Franchise/{{Terminator}}'' franchise (at least [[Film/TheTerminator the first one]]) as there is a Hopeless Robot War fought in the future -- hopeless for the robots, hence the time travel. The war was still quite brutal, and bleak for the humans, as a good chunk of humanity got hit by several [[DepopulationBomb Depopulation Bombs]]. ''Film/TerminatorSalvation'' double subverts it by showing that time traveling has actually made things worse. The T-800s come in a full ten years earlier and humans only have normal weapons (which we all know do ''nothing'' against the 800s), not plasma guns from the first version of the war, and while the main network and production base is destroyed along with a large number of unfinished 800s it's heavily implied Skynet has many many more. However, it would seem Skynet didn't go as heavy on the Nukes this time and the humans have A-10s and tanks. Skynet is also much harder to kill now. The original had one central computer controlling everything which could be destroyed, the one that got started in ''Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines'' was software distributed pretty much almost everywhere. And ''Film/TerminatorDarkFate'' goes for the hat trick by showing that [[spoiler:the war is an actual universal constant - by the end of the prologue, both SKYNET and John Connor are deader than a doornail [[MeetTheNewBoss and the war just gets a new]] MasterComputer and Resistance leader to take their spots]]. Notably, two of the characters of the cast, [[spoiler:Sarah Connor and "Carl", the last of the SKYNET Terminators]] show some distress at this fact, [[spoiler:which is proof that their efforts were AllForNothing]].



* What the war with the {{Kaiju}} was becoming in ''Film/PacificRim''. The Kaiju were learning to adapt against fighting the Jaegers and destroying more Jaegers until only four remain active. Not to mention the Pan Pacific Defense Corps was pulling funds away from creating and maintaining the Jaegers to focus on building the Kaiju Wall that claims to protect the surrounding countries from the Kaiju.

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* What the war with the {{Kaiju}} was becoming in ''Film/PacificRim''. The Kaiju were learning to adapt against fighting the Jaegers and destroying more Jaegers until only four remain active. Not to mention And the Pan Pacific Defense Corps was pulling funds away from creating and maintaining the Jaegers to focus on building the Kaiju Wall that claims to protect the surrounding countries from the Kaiju.



** Orcs are still there. They outnumber mankind and most other races combined. As usual the only thing keeping them from taking over the world is the lack of unity.
*** And their skewed balance of quantity over quality. Green life is cheap.
** The forces of Chaos are as numerous and deadly as ever, except that they have hordes of mutants and beastmen hiding in the woods (who, again, outnumber mankind), the spells that keeps Hell Itself from breaking through the barriers of reality are steadily weakened... And as the army book proclaims: ''"Against the daemons of chaos there can be no final victory."'' [[spoiler: [[DownerEnding And they did win in the end...]] Though, it's continued in ''Age of Sigmar''.]]
*** Adding to that are the cults dedicated to chaos, anything from individual hamlets and small covens to entire human armies that have turned to chaos and are actively fighting for it from within the Empire's borders...

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** Orcs are still there. They outnumber mankind and most other races combined. As usual the only thing keeping them from taking over the world is the lack of unity.
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unity. And their skewed balance of quantity over quality. Green life is cheap.
** The forces of Chaos are as numerous and deadly as ever, except that they have hordes of mutants and beastmen hiding in the woods (who, again, outnumber mankind), the spells that keeps Hell Itself from breaking through the barriers of reality are steadily weakened... And as the army book proclaims: ''"Against the daemons of chaos there can be no final victory."'' [[spoiler: [[DownerEnding And they did win in the end...]] Though, it's continued in ''Age of Sigmar''.]]
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]] Adding to that are the cults dedicated to chaos, anything from individual hamlets and small covens to entire human armies that have turned to chaos and are actively fighting for it from within the Empire's borders...



** The last, best hope against the forces of chaos is a race of man-eating lizards, who only has a fraction of the knowledge they once had and have trouble coordinating their actions at that (Not to mention the fact that their plan is to separate all the races and lock them up in different spots of the world).
** And the Dwarfs are at war with every race/group/nation that has ever offended them (Which by this point means just about all of them), and once they finish any of their current wars, they feel morally obliged to start a new one to avenge the deaths of the people who died in it ([[CycleOfRevenge followed by a war to avenge the deaths from that war, and another war to avenge the deaths of the people who fought in]] ''[[CycleOfRevenge that]]'' [[CycleOfRevenge war, etc, etc]]).

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** The last, best hope against the forces of chaos is a race of man-eating lizards, who only has a fraction of the knowledge they once had and have trouble coordinating their actions at that (Not to mention the fact that (and their plan is to separate all the races and lock them up in different spots of the world).
** And the Dwarfs are at war with every race/group/nation that has ever offended them (Which by this point means just about almost all of them), and once they finish any of their current wars, they feel morally obliged to start a new one to avenge the deaths of the people who died in it ([[CycleOfRevenge followed by a war to avenge the deaths from that war, and another war to avenge the deaths of the people who fought in]] ''[[CycleOfRevenge that]]'' [[CycleOfRevenge war, etc, etc]]).



* ''TabletopGame/CthulhuTech'', anyone? In the grim darkness of the not-so-far future, humanity is on the losing side, what with the Migou (your unfriendly neigborhood StarfishAliens from Yuggoth) holding the poles, the whole of Russia and chunks of Canada (together with Alaska), Scandinavia, Manchuria and Korea (both North and South) in their insectoid/fungoid/crustacean hands/paws/whatever; the AxCrazy Rapine Storm rolling through Asia towards Europe; and the Esoteric Order of Dagon ''everywhere'' at sea. And each side hopes to bring upon TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt, at least for the [[PoliceState New Earth Government]]. To be fair, the NEG doesn't always lose, but their chances of winning the Aeon War are pretty much zero.

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* ''TabletopGame/CthulhuTech'', anyone? In the grim darkness of the not-so-far future, humanity is on the losing side, what with the Migou (your unfriendly neigborhood StarfishAliens from Yuggoth) holding the poles, the whole of Russia and chunks of Canada (together with Alaska), Scandinavia, Manchuria and Korea (both North and South) in their insectoid/fungoid/crustacean hands/paws/whatever; the AxCrazy Rapine Storm rolling through Asia towards Europe; and the Esoteric Order of Dagon ''everywhere'' at sea. And each side hopes to bring upon TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt, at least for the [[PoliceState New Earth Government]]. To be fair, the NEG doesn't always lose, but their chances of winning the Aeon War are pretty much zero.



* ''VideoGame/SinAndPunishment'': the story of the game takes place in the near future, where nearly everyone has been screwed over into becoming psychotic killer mutants of any given breed. But it's the [[VideoGame/SinAndPunishmentStarSuccessor sequel]] that really drives home the trope: it's revealed that humanity only exists because some SufficientlyAdvancedAliens called the Creators need a massive supply of {{Red Shirt}}s to fight against {{Eldritch Abomination}}s from another dimension ([[spoiler:remember Achi? She was just one of these abominations, and pretty much the whole of the first game came about due to her actions]]). There are seven Earths, and whenever a strain of humanity grows too peaceful for the Creators' tastes, they wipe out all life on the planet and replace it with monstrosities called the Keepers, which are to defend the planet until the Creators can re-seed it with human life.

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* ''VideoGame/SinAndPunishment'': the story of the game takes place in the near future, where nearly everyone has been screwed over into becoming psychotic killer mutants of any given breed. But it's the [[VideoGame/SinAndPunishmentStarSuccessor sequel]] that really drives home the trope: it's revealed that humanity only exists because some SufficientlyAdvancedAliens called the Creators need a massive supply of {{Red Shirt}}s to fight against {{Eldritch Abomination}}s from another dimension ([[spoiler:remember Achi? She was just one of these abominations, and pretty much the whole of the first game came about due to her actions]]). There are seven Earths, and whenever a strain of humanity grows too peaceful for the Creators' tastes, they wipe out all life on the planet and replace it with monstrosities called the Keepers, which are to defend the planet until the Creators can re-seed it with human life.



* In the {{backstory}} for the upcoming ''Dawn Of Victory'' [[GameMod mod]] for ''VideoGame/SinsOfASolarEmpire'', Earth is [[AlienInvasion invaded by aliens]] in the middle of [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo World War 2]] à la ''Literature/WorldWar'' by Creator/HarryTurtledove. Despite the Scinfaxi (human name for the invaders) miscalculating the human level of technology, they proceed to CurbStompBattle humans to the brink of extinction using their HumongousMecha. Humans only once manage to score a decisive victory by luring the enemy into an ambush in a major North American city and then proceeding to shell the city with massed artillery barrages, scoring a blow to the alien forces at the cost of an entire city. The Soviets manage to capture a supply of plutonium from a Scinfaxi convoy and use it to build an atomic bomb. The [[NukeEm detonation]] wipes out most of the enemy forces in the region. Seeing this, the [[{{Eagleland}} Americans]], the [[ThoseWackyNazis Germans]], and the [[UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan Japanese]] follow suit, forcing the Scinfaxi to retreat to the Southern hemisphere. Until nukes are built, this pretty much fits the trope.

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* In the {{backstory}} for the upcoming ''Dawn Of Victory'' [[GameMod mod]] for ''VideoGame/SinsOfASolarEmpire'', Earth is [[AlienInvasion invaded by aliens]] in the middle of [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo World War 2]] à la ''Literature/WorldWar'' by Creator/HarryTurtledove. Despite the Scinfaxi (human name for the invaders) miscalculating the human level of technology, they proceed to CurbStompBattle humans to the brink of extinction using their HumongousMecha. Humans only once manage to score a decisive victory by luring the enemy into an ambush in a major North American city and then proceeding to shell the city with massed artillery barrages, scoring a blow to the alien forces at the cost of an entire city. The Soviets manage to capture a supply of plutonium from a Scinfaxi convoy and use it to build an atomic bomb. The [[NukeEm detonation]] wipes out most of the enemy forces in the region. Seeing this, the [[{{Eagleland}} Americans]], the [[ThoseWackyNazis Germans]], and the [[UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan Japanese]] follow suit, forcing the Scinfaxi to retreat to the Southern hemisphere. Until nukes are built, this pretty much fits the trope.



* ''VideoGame/EpicMickey'': Before Mickey came to the Wastelands, Shadow Blot and the Mad Doctor had pretty much won the Blot War; they have conquered Oswald's castle and petrified his wife Ortensia, an act which sends him into a deep depression and causes him to lose his will to fight, leaving the fighting to small, weak bands of resistance groups. One of them, the crew of Captain Hook, has most of the members dead or turned into Beetleworx and the rest scattered leaderless in the jungle. Another group, The Gremlins, has been more successful in fighting off Blot's forces, but the sheer force of Blot's forces causes most of the Gremlins to be taken as prisoners, and their own village was under siege before Mickey helped in turning the tide.

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* ''VideoGame/EpicMickey'': Before Mickey came to the Wastelands, Shadow Blot and the Mad Doctor had pretty much won the Blot War; they have conquered Oswald's castle and petrified his wife Ortensia, an act which sends him into a deep depression and causes him to lose his will to fight, leaving the fighting to small, weak bands of resistance groups. One of them, the crew of Captain Hook, has most of the members dead or turned into Beetleworx and the rest scattered leaderless in the jungle. Another group, The Gremlins, has been more successful in fighting off Blot's forces, but the sheer force of Blot's forces causes most of the Gremlins to be taken as prisoners, and their own village was under siege before Mickey helped in turning the tide.



* In the ''Webcomic/SluggyFreelance'' story "That Which Redeems", the Dimension of Lame is pretty much helpless before the Dimension of Pain demons, largely because Torg's the only person in the entire dimension who isn't a complete pacifist (most Dimension of Lame residents aren't even comfortable with the idea of ''food'' fights). The only thing stopping the demons from completely overrunning the Earth are their small numbers and Lord Horribus's poor decision making.

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* In the ''Webcomic/SluggyFreelance'' story "That Which Redeems", the Dimension of Lame is pretty much helpless before the Dimension of Pain demons, largely because Torg's the only person in the entire dimension who isn't a complete pacifist (most Dimension of Lame residents aren't even comfortable with the idea of ''food'' fights). The only thing stopping the demons from completely overrunning the Earth are their small numbers and Lord Horribus's poor decision making.



* ''Literature/TheAngloAmericanNaziWar'' is an AlternateHistory where the Nazis win against the Soviet Union and force the Western Allies into a stalemate... until the Nazis launch a chemical weapons attack on several countries including Britain, killing 50,000 people [[spoiler:including the Queen Mother and all her children]]. When the infuriated Allies invaded Europe and killed the bejesus out of the German military, the increasingly desperate and insane Nazis resorted to systematically destroying Europe's cultural heritage [[spoiler:including the French cities of Paris, Reims and Orleans, and pretty much all the arable farmland in the Netherlands]] and using indoctrinated children as suicide bombers. [[GuiltFreeExterminationWar The Allied response]] [[BlackAndGrayMorality was little better]].

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* ''Literature/TheAngloAmericanNaziWar'' is an AlternateHistory where the Nazis win against the Soviet Union and force the Western Allies into a stalemate... until the Nazis launch a chemical weapons attack on several countries including Britain, killing 50,000 people [[spoiler:including the Queen Mother and all her children]]. When the infuriated Allies invaded Europe and killed the bejesus out of the German military, the increasingly desperate and insane Nazis resorted to systematically destroying Europe's cultural heritage [[spoiler:including the French cities of Paris, Reims and Orleans, and pretty much almost all the arable farmland in the Netherlands]] and using indoctrinated children as suicide bombers. [[GuiltFreeExterminationWar The Allied response]] [[BlackAndGrayMorality was little better]].
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* ''VideoGame/GroundControl II: Operation Exodus'': Since the NSA have lost its fleet along with all of its planets apart from Morningstar Prime, the NSA have no ways of defeating the Terran Empire.
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*** By the ''VideoGame/{{Halo 4}}'' era, humanity is partly recovered from the war, having even surpassed the Covenant in some technological areas thanks to an influx of Covenant and Forerunner tech. The ''Infinity'' is the largest and most advanced human ship ever built (not counting [[AdvancedAncientHumans ancient humanity]]) and can go toe-to-toe with most Covenant ship and win. There's also the SPARTAN-IV program, a re-tool of Project ORION (AKA SPARTAN-I) involving the "upgrading" of veteran soldiers to SuperSoldier status with hardly any genetic restrictions, unlike the earlier SPARTAN-[[SuperPrototype II]] and -[[LaserGuidedTykeBomb III]] programs. Their [[PoweredArmor MJOLNIR armor]] is also superior to even the [=IIs'=], while also being much cheaper. Basically, given enough funding, a whole army of [=SPARTANs=] can be created with no shortage of volunteers.

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*** By the ''VideoGame/{{Halo 4}}'' era, humanity is partly recovered from the war, having even surpassed the Covenant in some technological areas thanks to an influx of Covenant and Forerunner tech. The ''Infinity'' is the largest and most advanced human ship ever built (not counting [[AdvancedAncientHumans ancient humanity]]) and can go toe-to-toe with most Covenant ship and win.win [[note]]the ''Infinity'' was initially constructed as a lifeboat to prevent the extinction of humanity; in case of total defeat at the hands of the Covenant, the ship would be loaded with humanity's best and brightest, and ''[[WagonTrainToTheStars run]]'')[[/note]]. There's also the SPARTAN-IV program, a re-tool of Project ORION (AKA SPARTAN-I) involving the "upgrading" of veteran soldiers to SuperSoldier status with hardly any genetic restrictions, unlike the earlier SPARTAN-[[SuperPrototype II]] and -[[LaserGuidedTykeBomb III]] programs. Their [[PoweredArmor MJOLNIR armor]] is also superior to even the [=IIs'=], while also being much cheaper. Basically, given enough funding, a whole army of [=SPARTANs=] can be created with no shortage of volunteers.
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* ''Film/Downfall2004'' takes place during the Battle of Berlin, where Hitler and his inner circle are taking shelter while the Wehrmacht and the Red Army are fighting overhead. Everyone in the bunker knows the war is lost, and the movie explores their reaction to Nazi Germany's rapidly approaching end at the hands of the Allies. Hitler desperately tries to postpone the inevitable, trying to command units that don't exist any more or have straight-up defected to the other side against the advancing Soviet forces. Himmler goes behind Hitler's back to negotiate a surrender with the Allies (who are having none of it), his adjutant Fegelein tries to desert (and is shot for it), and many of the remaining officials (along with Hitler himself) eventually commit suicide.

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* ''Film/Downfall2004'' takes place in the Fuhrerbunker during the Battle of Berlin, where Hitler and his inner circle are taking shelter while the Wehrmacht and the Red Army are fighting overhead. over the city. Everyone in the bunker Berlin knows the war is lost, and the movie explores their the German people's reaction to Nazi Germany's rapidly approaching end at the hands of the Allies. Hitler desperately tries to postpone the inevitable, trying to command units that don't exist any more or have straight-up defected to the other side against the advancing Soviet forces. Himmler goes behind Hitler's back to negotiate a surrender with the Allies (who are having none of it), his adjutant Fegelein tries to desert (and is shot for it), and many of the remaining officials (along with Hitler himself) eventually commit suicide.
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* ''Film/{{Downfall}}'' takes place during the Battle of Berlin, where Hitler and his inner circle are taking shelter while the Wehrmacht and the Red Army are fighting overhead. Everyone in the bunker knows the war is lost, and the movie explores their reaction to Nazi Germany's rapidly approaching end at the hands of the Allies. Hitler desperately tries to postpone the inevitable, trying to command units that don't exist any more or have straight-up defected to the other side against the advancing Soviet forces. Himmler goes behind Hitler's back to negotiate a surrender with the Allies (who are having none of it), his adjutant Fegelein tries to desert (and is shot for it), and many of the remaining officials (along with Hitler himself) eventually commit suicide.
* ''Film/{{Midway|1976}} (1976)'': Adm. Yamaguchi: "Once, we filled the sky with our aircraft. Now we win or lose with six fighters and ten torpedo planes."

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* ''Film/{{Downfall}}'' ''Film/Downfall2004'' takes place during the Battle of Berlin, where Hitler and his inner circle are taking shelter while the Wehrmacht and the Red Army are fighting overhead. Everyone in the bunker knows the war is lost, and the movie explores their reaction to Nazi Germany's rapidly approaching end at the hands of the Allies. Hitler desperately tries to postpone the inevitable, trying to command units that don't exist any more or have straight-up defected to the other side against the advancing Soviet forces. Himmler goes behind Hitler's back to negotiate a surrender with the Allies (who are having none of it), his adjutant Fegelein tries to desert (and is shot for it), and many of the remaining officials (along with Hitler himself) eventually commit suicide.
* ''Film/{{Midway|1976}} (1976)'': ''Film/Midway1976'': Adm. Yamaguchi: "Once, we filled the sky with our aircraft. Now we win or lose with six fighters and ten torpedo planes."
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A ForeverWar may eventually grind itself down to one of these.

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these. LoweredRecruitingStandards may go along with this trope when things get truly desperate.
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* ''VideoGame/TheNewOrderLastDaysOfEurope'': The [[red:Great Trial]] is the ultimate endgame goal of the [[ObviouslyEvil All-Russian Black League]], a post-Soviet warlord state based in Omsk. The [[red:Great Trial]] is envisioned as a final, [[KickTheSonOfABitch genocidal war against Nazi Germany]] in revenge for twenty years of brutal occupation and enslavement, and against the wider world for allowing Russia to fall. Dmitry Yazov openly boasts that if all the Germans and all but one Russian die in the [[red:Great Trial]], then that is still a victory. [[spoiler:As both sides have access to chemical and nuclear weapons, the insane war predictably [[NonStandardGameOver results in the destruction of human civilization in a nuclear holocaust.]]]]

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* ''VideoGame/TheNewOrderLastDaysOfEurope'': The [[red:Great Trial]] is the ultimate endgame goal of the [[ObviouslyEvil All-Russian Black League]], a post-Soviet warlord state based in Omsk. The [[red:Great Trial]] is envisioned as a final, [[KickTheSonOfABitch [[PayEvilUntoEvil genocidal war against Nazi Germany]] in revenge for twenty years of brutal occupation and enslavement, and against the wider world for allowing Russia to fall. Dmitry Yazov openly boasts that if all the Germans and all but one Russian die in the [[red:Great Trial]], then that is still a victory. [[spoiler:As both sides have access to chemical and nuclear weapons, the insane war predictably [[NonStandardGameOver results in the destruction of human civilization in a nuclear holocaust.]]]]
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** [[spoiler: To make this fact even worse, [[GodIsEvil Chak]][[TrueFinalBoss ra]][[JerkassGods vartin]], who created the Gohma in the first place to test the Demi-gods and see if he can find himself an heir amongst them, says that even if Vlitra were destroyed, he can make more Gohma at will, and implies that he has destroyed countless galaxies with the Gohma since time immemorial, and will continue to do so in the future.]]

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** [[spoiler: To make this fact even worse, [[GodIsEvil Chak]][[TrueFinalBoss ra]][[JerkassGods vartin]], who created the Gohma in the first place to test the Demi-gods and see if he can find himself an heir amongst them, says that even if Vlitra were destroyed, he can make more Gohma at will, and implies that he has destroyed countless galaxies with the Gohma since time immemorial, and will continue to do so in the future. It was a good thing that Asura decided to take him down once and for all.]]
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* ''Film/{{Downfall}}'' is set during the same time period as the above, but focuses on the Berlin bunker where Hitler and his inner circle are taking shelter while the Battle of Berlin rages overhead. Everyone in the bunker knows that the war is lost, and the movie explores their reaction to Nazi Germany's rapidly approaching end at the hands of the Allies. Hitler desperately tries to postpone the inevitable, trying to command units that don't exist any more or have straight-up defected to the other side against the advancing Soviet forces. Himmler goes behind Hitler's back to negotiate a surrender with the Allies (who are having none of it), his adjutant Fegelein tries to desert (and is shot for it), and many of the remaining officials (along with Hitler himself) eventually commit suicide.

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* ''Film/{{Downfall}}'' is set takes place during the same time period as the above, but focuses on the Berlin bunker Battle of Berlin, where Hitler and his inner circle are taking shelter while the Battle of Berlin rages Wehrmacht and the Red Army are fighting overhead. Everyone in the bunker knows that the war is lost, and the movie explores their reaction to Nazi Germany's rapidly approaching end at the hands of the Allies. Hitler desperately tries to postpone the inevitable, trying to command units that don't exist any more or have straight-up defected to the other side against the advancing Soviet forces. Himmler goes behind Hitler's back to negotiate a surrender with the Allies (who are having none of it), his adjutant Fegelein tries to desert (and is shot for it), and many of the remaining officials (along with Hitler himself) eventually commit suicide.



* ''Film/IndependenceDay'': With humanity's first counterattack failing, the revelation that the aliens' shields are powerful enough to withstand a nuclear blast, and the revelation that in the next 36 hours they will be joining the long list of species wiped out by the invaders, the War of 1996 is looking like this, that is until David gets an idea from his father that can take out the aliens.

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* ''Film/IndependenceDay'': With humanity's first counterattack failing, the revelation that the aliens' shields are powerful enough to withstand a nuclear blast, and the revelation that humanity will likely be wiped out in the next 36 hours they will be joining the long list of species wiped out by the invaders, hours, the War of 1996 is looking like this, that is until David gets an idea from his father that can take out the aliens.
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* The forces of good in ''LightNovel/AvestaOfBlackAndWhite'' have been locked in an endless war against the forces of evil for thousands of years. As soon as any headway is made in taking down the seven archfiends, a new one soon takes the fallen ones place turning the whole thing into a pointless meatgrinder of a war with fatigue and despair gripping the common folk, especially after the great hero Varhram was killed. [[spoiler:And it is revealed that this trope applies to the forces of evil as well. And worse, should any side "win" the war then the whole universe would undergo a complete reset with the whole thing starting all over again, just with the sides switched. Suffice to say, this truth has quite the effect on those who learn it]].

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* The forces of good in ''LightNovel/AvestaOfBlackAndWhite'' ''Literature/AvestaOfBlackAndWhite'' have been locked in an endless war against the forces of evil for thousands of years. As soon as any headway is made in taking down the seven archfiends, a new one soon takes the fallen ones place turning the whole thing into a pointless meatgrinder of a war with fatigue and despair gripping the common folk, especially after the great hero Varhram was killed. [[spoiler:And it is revealed that this trope applies to the forces of evil as well. And worse, should any side "win" the war then the whole universe would undergo a complete reset with the whole thing starting all over again, just with the sides switched. Suffice to say, this truth has quite the effect on those who learn it]].



* ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsV'': The war between the Earth Federation and Neo Zeon in the Universal Century world is turning into this. Unlike in canon, the [[Manga/GetterRobo Getter Ray pollution from Saotome Institute]] and the [[Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion Second Impact]] devastated Earth right after [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam the Federation forces took Solomon]]. Because of this, even though the Federation still won the One Year War, anti-Federation forces were able to grow unhindered while the Federation was too busy rebuilding Earth. Fast forward to 15 years after the One Year War, the Earth Federation is now locked in a stalemated war with [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamUnicorn Full Frontal's Neo Zeon]], which is now an actual army instead of the underground organization depicted in ''Unicorn''. The situation has gotten so desperate that even [[LightNovel/FullMetalPanic Mithril]], normally a neutral organization, is assisting the Federation simply to stop Neo Zeon from destroying Earth completely.

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* ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsV'': The war between the Earth Federation and Neo Zeon in the Universal Century world is turning into this. Unlike in canon, the [[Manga/GetterRobo Getter Ray pollution from Saotome Institute]] and the [[Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion Second Impact]] devastated Earth right after [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam the Federation forces took Solomon]]. Because of this, even though the Federation still won the One Year War, anti-Federation forces were able to grow unhindered while the Federation was too busy rebuilding Earth. Fast forward to 15 years after the One Year War, the Earth Federation is now locked in a stalemated war with [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamUnicorn Full Frontal's Neo Zeon]], which is now an actual army instead of the underground organization depicted in ''Unicorn''. The situation has gotten so desperate that even [[LightNovel/FullMetalPanic [[Literature/FullMetalPanic Mithril]], normally a neutral organization, is assisting the Federation simply to stop Neo Zeon from destroying Earth completely.
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** The war between the evil [=AI=] and the Spartans in "Jack and the Spartans" has been going on for five generations with neither side able to get an advantage (the [=AI=]'s armies cannot break the phalanx, and the Spartans don't have numbers or access to the [=AI=]'s core to launch a counter attack), but the Spartans know it's only a matter of time before they are overwhelmed by the unending horde of robots attacking them. Fortunately, Jack's arrival provides them with a secret path to the [=AI=], allowing the Spartans to launch a surgical strike and end the war on their terms.
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* In ''FanFic/{{Fractured}}'', a ''Franchise/MassEffect''[=/=]''Franchise/StarWars''[[spoiler:[=/=]''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}'']] [[MassiveMultiplayerCrossover crossover]] and its sequel ''Fanfic/{{Origins}}'', there are two, one averted and one played straight.

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* In ''FanFic/{{Fractured}}'', ''Fanfic/FracturedSovereignGFC'', a ''Franchise/MassEffect''[=/=]''Franchise/StarWars''[[spoiler:[=/=]''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}'']] [[MassiveMultiplayerCrossover crossover]] and its sequel ''Fanfic/{{Origins}}'', there are two, one averted and one played straight.

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* ''Literature/TheWarOfTheWorlds'' novel has an example of this with the British military valiantly trying to bring down the alien tripods...
** Ultimately, [[ItWasHisSled the tripods do not fall by human hands, but by bacteria]].
** There were a couple of hollow victories, usually excised in the numerous adaptations.
*** Notably, this (along with IWillFightSomeMoreForever) is averted, in that when these hollow victories deflate some of the Martian hubris, the invaders find a way to strike with even ''greater'' impunity. Once it becomes clear that no further victories can be expected, it is explicitly stated that all organized resistance falls apart.
*** This is sort of a weird one. The "hollow victories" are the result of artillery. This happens to have been an arm in which the British army was extremely backward at the time (this was ground home by the 2nd Boer War, only a couple of years later), leading to the supposition that if the Martians had landed anywhere else in Europe things might have been a little more hairy for them. Of course, this is completely missing the point. The main issue is that rather than the invincible juggernaut they are in adaptations the Tripods in the book were GlassCannon FragileSpeedster machines that the artillery just can't reliably land a hit on before being destroyed themselves, but any shot that actually connects by sheer luck takes one down.

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* ''Literature/TheWarOfTheWorlds'' novel ''Literature/TheWarOfTheWorlds1898'' has an example of this with the British military valiantly trying to bring down the alien tripods...
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bacteria]]. There were are a couple of hollow victories, usually excised in the numerous adaptations.
*** ** Notably, this (along with IWillFightSomeMoreForever) is averted, in that when these hollow victories deflate some of the Martian hubris, the invaders find a way to strike with even ''greater'' impunity. Once it becomes clear that no further victories can be expected, it is explicitly stated that all organized resistance falls apart.
*** ** This is sort of a weird one. The "hollow victories" are the result of artillery. This happens to have been an arm in which the British army was extremely backward at the time (this was ground home by the 2nd Boer War, only a couple of years later), leading to the supposition that if the Martians had landed anywhere else in Europe things might have been a little more hairy for them. Of course, this is completely missing the point. The main issue is that rather than the invincible juggernaut they are in adaptations the Tripods in the book were GlassCannon FragileSpeedster machines that the artillery just can't reliably land a hit on before being destroyed themselves, but any shot that actually connects by sheer luck takes one down.
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* The War in the North is this for the Warriors of the Organization assigned to it in ''{{Manga/Claymore}}''. There are only about two dozen of them, granted they are all [[SuperSoldier super soldiers]] but the opposing force is overwhelmingly powerful. Consisting of several dozen [[SuperpoweredEvilSide Awakened Beings]] that usually take a four woman team lead by a Single Digit Warrior to hunt, the Awakened Being's leader is regarded as one of the most powerful creatures in the world. The Warriors only count three Single Digits among their number to combat dozens of Awakened Beings. Furthermore the Warriors' leadership are collectively unable to match the enemy's NumberOne let alone [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority the leader himself.]] [[InvokedTrope It's deliberate]]: [[UriahGambit the Organization has set up a number of Warriors they deem problematic to be killed slowing the Awakened Beings down]]. [[spoiler:Fortunately their leader manages to fake the deaths of seven of them, including the protagonist Clare, with yoma suppression drugs.]]

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* The War in the North is this for the Warriors of the Organization assigned to it in ''{{Manga/Claymore}}''. There are only about two dozen of them, granted they are all [[SuperSoldier super soldiers]] but the opposing force is overwhelmingly powerful. Consisting of several dozen [[SuperpoweredEvilSide Awakened Beings]] that usually take a four woman team lead by a Single Digit Warrior to hunt, the Awakened Being's leader is regarded as one of the most powerful creatures in the world. The Warriors only count three Single Digits among their number to combat dozens of Awakened Beings. Furthermore the Warriors' leadership are collectively unable to match the enemy's NumberOne let alone [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority [[AsskickingLeadsToLeadership the leader himself.]] himself]]. It's [[InvokedTrope It's deliberate]]: [[UriahGambit the Organization [[UriahGambit has set up a number of Warriors they deem problematic to be killed slowing the Awakened Beings down]]. [[spoiler:Fortunately their leader manages to fake the deaths of seven of them, including the protagonist Clare, with yoma suppression drugs.]]
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* Subverted in the ''Franchise/{{Terminator}}'' franchise (at least [[Film/TheTerminator the first one]]) as there is a Hopeless Robot War fought in the future -- hopeless for the robots, hence the time travel. The war was still quite brutal, and bleak for the humans, as a good chunk of humanity got hit by several [[DepopulationBomb Depopulation Bombs]]. ''Film/TerminatorSalvation'' double subverts it by showing that time traveling has actually made things worse. The T-800s come in a full ten years earlier and humans only have normal weapons (which we all know do ''nothing'' against the 800s), not plasma guns from the first version of the war, and while the main network and production base is destroyed along with a large number of unfinished 800s it's heavily implied Skynet has many many more. However, it would seem Skynet didn't go as heavy on the Nukes this time and the humans have A-10s and tanks. Skynet is also much harder to kill now. The original had one central computer controlling everything which could be destroyed, the one that got started in ''Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines'' was software distributed pretty much everywhere.

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* Subverted in the ''Franchise/{{Terminator}}'' franchise (at least [[Film/TheTerminator the first one]]) as there is a Hopeless Robot War fought in the future -- hopeless for the robots, hence the time travel. The war was still quite brutal, and bleak for the humans, as a good chunk of humanity got hit by several [[DepopulationBomb Depopulation Bombs]]. ''Film/TerminatorSalvation'' double subverts it by showing that time traveling has actually made things worse. The T-800s come in a full ten years earlier and humans only have normal weapons (which we all know do ''nothing'' against the 800s), not plasma guns from the first version of the war, and while the main network and production base is destroyed along with a large number of unfinished 800s it's heavily implied Skynet has many many more. However, it would seem Skynet didn't go as heavy on the Nukes this time and the humans have A-10s and tanks. Skynet is also much harder to kill now. The original had one central computer controlling everything which could be destroyed, the one that got started in ''Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines'' was software distributed pretty much everywhere. And ''Film/TerminatorDarkFate'' goes for the hat trick by showing that [[spoiler:the war is an actual universal constant - by the end of the prologue, both SKYNET and John Connor are deader than a doornail [[MeetTheNewBoss and the war just gets a new]] MasterComputer and Resistance leader to take their spots]]. Notably, two of the characters of the cast, [[spoiler:Sarah Connor and "Carl", the last of the SKYNET Terminators]] show some distress at this fact, [[spoiler:which is proof that their efforts were AllForNothing]].
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* ''Literature/TheThreeBodyProblem'': Earth versus Trisolaris is widely expected to be this, given the Trisolarans much greater technology, which humanity can't hope to match thanks to the sophon block. The point is really driven home in book two when [[spoiler:Earth's entire space fleet is wiped out by a single two-meter Trisolaran probe, nine more of which will arrive within three years, followed by a thousand warships in another two centuries.]]
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* The war in ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' lasted for nearly an entire century. By the finale of the show the nation of the Air Nomads had been wiped out, the Southern Water Tribe had been reduced to scattered villages, and the Northern Water Tribe had retreated to within its own borders. Vast areas of the Earth Kingdom had been claimed as Fire Nation colonies. The two major Earth Kingdom cities, Omashu and [[spoiler: Ba Sing Se]] came under Fire Nation control. The only things standing against the Fire-Nation were small uprisings and guerilla armies. And then the comet came, giving the Fire Nation the ability to literally burn the continued resistance to the ground... of course, the good guys win, but without the Avatar they were basically screwed.

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* The war in ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' lasted for nearly an entire century. By the finale of the show the nation of the Air Nomads had been wiped out, the Southern Water Tribe had been reduced to scattered villages, and the Northern Water Tribe had retreated to within its own borders. Vast areas of the Earth Kingdom had been claimed as Fire Nation colonies. The two major Earth Kingdom cities, Omashu and [[spoiler: Ba Sing Se]] came under Fire Nation control. The only things standing against the Fire-Nation were small uprisings and guerilla armies. And then the comet came, giving the Fire Nation the ability to literally burn the continued resistance to the ground... of course, the good guys win, but without the Avatar they were basically screwed.
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** The Orieni tended to get into these: in the late 20th century-early 21st they started a war with the Centauri, who had superiority in numbers, industrial production, economy, space, and even [[{{Unobtainium}} the Quantium-40 necessary for jump drives]] (meaning a larger pencentage of Centauri ships were jump capable, and their jump drives were of better design) ''and'' had less logistically-intensive weapons. This was a calculated risk: the Orieni believed they would eventually get to war with the Centauri and seeked to fight it before the Centauri caught up with their slightly more advanced technology (something that indeed happened during the war), planning for it to be fought after Drazi raiders (opportunely supported by the Orieni) had softened them up and distracted assets from their front and being a brief conflict in which they'd use the incapacity of the Centauri admirals to take a number of border systems and improve their situation for the eventual annection of the Centauri. When the Centauri soldiered on and replaced their admirals with more capable ones, the Orieni found themselves in a hopeless situation... And the Centauri being as furious as they were by the Orieni manipulating the Drazi while they were making ''peace overtures'', they hit them so hard that entire planets were destroyed ''in the crossfire'', and the Orieni could only return being a significant power due a combination of the Centauri being unwilling to commit genocide and being too distracted by other things to annex them later, and it still took them two centuries. Then the Orieni, who worshipped the [[{{Precursors}} Vorlon]] as gods, took offense at the Minbari and others getting them to leave the galaxy and decided to exact retribution...

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** The Orieni tended to get into these: in the late 20th century-early 21st they started a war with the Centauri, who had superiority in numbers, industrial production, economy, space, and even [[{{Unobtainium}} the Quantium-40 necessary for jump drives]] (meaning a larger pencentage of Centauri ships were jump capable, and their jump drives were of better design) ''and'' had less logistically-intensive weapons. This was a calculated risk: the Orieni believed they would eventually get to war with the Centauri and seeked to fight it before the Centauri caught up with their slightly more advanced technology (something that indeed happened during the war), planning for it to be fought after Drazi raiders (opportunely supported by the Orieni) had softened them up and distracted assets from their front and being a brief conflict in which they'd use the incapacity of the Centauri admirals to take a number of border systems and improve their situation for the eventual annection annexation of the Centauri. When the Centauri soldiered on and replaced their admirals with more capable ones, the Orieni found themselves in a hopeless situation... And the Centauri being as furious as they were by the Orieni manipulating the Drazi while they were making ''peace overtures'', they hit them so hard that entire planets were destroyed ''in the crossfire'', and the Orieni could only return being a significant power due a combination of the Centauri being unwilling to commit genocide and being too distracted by other things to annex them later, and it still took them two centuries. Then the Orieni, who worshipped the [[{{Precursors}} Vorlon]] as gods, took offense at the Minbari and others getting them to leave the galaxy and decided to exact retribution...
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* ''Film/{{Fury 2014}}'' is set in the last days of UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. The Allies are marching through the German heartland, the regular Wehrmacht are surrendering in droves, and most civilians are happy to see an end to the war. It's obvious to everyone still holding the SanityBall that Nazi Germany is finished, but the remnants of the SS are still fighting bitterly on and using any dirty tactic to, at the very least, cost the Allies a little bit more: ChildSoldiers, luring Americans into towns and then shelling them, really anything goes. In one notable scene to compound this, the protagonists see hundreds of Allied bombers streaking across the sky, and they look across the sky to see a measly ''five'' German fighters flying out towards them to intercept.

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* ''Film/{{Fury 2014}}'' is set in the last days of UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. The Allies are marching through the German heartland, the regular Wehrmacht are surrendering in droves, and most German civilians are happy relieved to see an end to the war. It's obvious to everyone still holding the SanityBall anyone with an ounce of sanity that Nazi Germany is finished, but the remnants of the SS and other fanatics are still fighting bitterly on and using any dirty tactic to, at the very least, make victory cost the Allies a little bit more: more. This includes: ChildSoldiers, luring Americans into towns full of German civilians and then shelling them, or setting fire to the entire town, murdering anyone who refuses to be conscripted, really anything goes. In one notable scene to compound this, that really underlines the state of the war, the protagonists see hundreds of Allied bombers streaking across the sky, and they then look across the sky to see a measly ''five'' German fighters flying out towards them to intercept.intercept them.
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* In BackStory to "[[Literature/{{Kane}} Lynortis Reprise]]", two-year-long siege of Lynortis was this. The city was a fortress high on an unreachable summit and its king made a deal with darklings that provided him with white phosphorus and poisonous gas bombs, while civilians starved in the streets. The attacker, king Masale, threw tens of thousands of people and mighty siege engines to attack the city--and they also died by the thousands. In effect, it was a stalemate but Masale did not want to give up, as Lynortis was the only thing that stood in the way of his conquest. It was so bad that the half-men--maimed survivors from both sides of the conflict, who decided to stay in Lynortis's ruins--worship "The Bringer of Peace", that is the traitor who finally led Masale's armies into the city through hidden passages, even thought it ended in a massacre. The traitor [[spoiler: Kane himself]] was just tired of the slaughter and wanted everything to end.

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* In BackStory to "[[Literature/{{Kane}} "[[Literature/KaneSeries Lynortis Reprise]]", two-year-long siege of Lynortis was this. The city was a fortress high on an unreachable summit and its king made a deal with darklings that provided him with white phosphorus and poisonous gas bombs, while civilians starved in the streets. The attacker, king Masale, threw tens of thousands of people and mighty siege engines to attack the city--and they also died by the thousands. In effect, it was a stalemate but Masale did not want to give up, as Lynortis was the only thing that stood in the way of his conquest. It was so bad that the half-men--maimed survivors from both sides of the conflict, who decided to stay in Lynortis's ruins--worship "The Bringer of Peace", that is the traitor who finally led Masale's armies into the city through hidden passages, even thought it ended in a massacre. The traitor [[spoiler: Kane himself]] was just tired of the slaughter and wanted everything to end.
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* ''Franchise/StarWars: Film/TheLastJedi'': Despite the destruction of Starkiller Base, the war against the First Order is this for the Resistance. They no longer have the support of the New Republic as it seemingly collapsed following the Hosnian Cataclysm, much of their leadership including Admiral Ackbar are killed during the evacuation from D'Qar while Leia is left incapacitated, resulting in a fractured chain of command as Poe and Holdo repeatedly butt heads over strategy. Finn and Rose's mission to disable the First Order's tracking device on their fleet ends in failure resulting in heavy casualties and Holdo is forced to sacrifice the Resistance's last cruiser to buy them time to escape. When what's left of the Resistance reaches Crait and Leia broadcasts a call to arms across the galaxy to fight the First Order, no one responds as everyone believes the war is now hopeless while the First Order prepares to assault the planet and complete their conquest of the galaxy. Thankfully, Luke's intervention enables the Resistance to escape and spark inspiration across the galaxy for a new Rebellion against the First Order's tyranny.
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* The War in the North is this for the Warriors of the Organization assigned to it in ''{{Manga/Claymore}}''. There are only about two dozen of them, granted they are all [[SuperSoldier super soldiers]] but the opposing force is overwhelmingly powerful. Consisting of several dozen [[SuperpoweredEvilSide Awakened Beings]] that usually take a four woman team lead by a Single Digit Warrior to hunt, the Awakened Being's leader is regarded as one of the most powerful creatures in the world. The Warriors only count three Single Digits among their number to combat dozens of Awakened Beings. Furthermore the Warriors' leadership are collectively unable to match the enemy's NumberOne let alone the [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority the leader himself.]] [[InvokedTrope It's deliberate]]: [[UriahGambit the Organization has set up a number of Warriors they deem problematic to be killed slowing the Awakened Beings down]]. [[spoiler:Fortunately their leader manages to fake the deaths of seven of them, including the protagonist Clare, with yoma suppression drugs.]]

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* The War in the North is this for the Warriors of the Organization assigned to it in ''{{Manga/Claymore}}''. There are only about two dozen of them, granted they are all [[SuperSoldier super soldiers]] but the opposing force is overwhelmingly powerful. Consisting of several dozen [[SuperpoweredEvilSide Awakened Beings]] that usually take a four woman team lead by a Single Digit Warrior to hunt, the Awakened Being's leader is regarded as one of the most powerful creatures in the world. The Warriors only count three Single Digits among their number to combat dozens of Awakened Beings. Furthermore the Warriors' leadership are collectively unable to match the enemy's NumberOne let alone the [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority the leader himself.]] [[InvokedTrope It's deliberate]]: [[UriahGambit the Organization has set up a number of Warriors they deem problematic to be killed slowing the Awakened Beings down]]. [[spoiler:Fortunately their leader manages to fake the deaths of seven of them, including the protagonist Clare, with yoma suppression drugs.]]
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** The Skaven has been undermining all of civilization for ages, they are arguably the most technologically advanced race, with huge amounts of MagiTek.

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** The Skaven has been undermining all of civilization for ages, they are arguably the most technologically advanced race, with huge amounts of MagiTek. The only thing keeping them from taking over is, like the greenskins, a lack of unity. Nine out of ten Skaven plots to attack the surface are thwarted by other Skaven who would rather all Skaven lose than let some Skaven other than themselves win.

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