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** Or as the Wrestling/{{Cody|Rhodes}}\[[Wrestling/TheYoungBucks Young Bucks]] driven ''All In'' and Wrestling/ChrisJericho's Cruise prove its NJPW, ROH, Impact, Lucha Underground/AAA, WOS & MLW ''[[RivalsTeamUp vs.]]'' WWE

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** Or as the Wrestling/{{Cody|Rhodes}}\[[Wrestling/TheYoungBucks Young Bucks]] driven ''All In'' and Wrestling/ChrisJericho's Cruise prove its NJPW, ROH, Impact, Lucha Underground/AAA, WOS & MLW ''[[RivalsTeamUp vs.]]'' WWEWWE. While that list might look long, it could easily be spun into a continuation of the old NWA vs WWF rivalry, even ignoring that the NWA World Heavyweight Title was the belt defended during the main event of ''All In''. What's changed is that most of the shows opposing fan bases swear by [[VestigialEmpire are no longer united by the NWA brand]], so [[WeAreStugglingTogether the diversity]] of WWE's opposition becomes more readily apparent.
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** In turn, ''The Last Jedi'' fans has a rivalry with fans of superhero movies in regard to debates about formula and audience-pleasing. ''The Last Jedi'' fans claim that superhero movies play it too safe and have spoiled audiences into becoming very hostile to deconstructions and genre-critiquing in blockbusters. Superhero fans, however, pointed out that their movies can be as introspective and deconstructive as ''The Last Jedi'' and that the movie should have only itself to blame for its backlash. It doesn't help that many superhero movies released from 2016 to 2018 share similarities to ''The Last Jedi'' [[note]]Whether it's having an escapist hero growing into a jaded mentor (''Film/{{Logan}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse''), themes of dealing with the past (''Film/ThorRagnarok'' and ''Film/{{Black Panther|2018}}''), or non-{{White Male Lead}}s (''Black Panther'', ''Film/WonderWoman'', and ''Film/{{Aquaman}}'')[[/note]] but none of the reactionary backlash.

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** In turn, ''The Last Jedi'' fans has a rivalry with fans of superhero movies in regard to debates about formula and audience-pleasing. ''The Last Jedi'' fans claim that superhero movies play it too safe and have spoiled audiences into becoming very hostile to deconstructions and genre-critiquing in blockbusters. Superhero fans, however, pointed out that their movies can be as introspective and deconstructive as ''The Last Jedi'' and that the movie should have only itself to blame for its backlash. It doesn't help that many superhero movies released from 2016 to 2018 share have many similarities to ''The Last Jedi'' [[note]]Whether it's having an escapist hero growing into a jaded mentor (''Film/{{Logan}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse''), themes of dealing with the past (''Film/ThorRagnarok'' and ''Film/{{Black Panther|2018}}''), or non-{{White Male Lead}}s (''Black Panther'', ''Film/WonderWoman'', and ''Film/{{Aquaman}}'')[[/note]] but none of the reactionary fan backlash.
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* [[Wrestling/AllJapanWomensProWrestling Zenjo]] vs JWP vs LLPW.

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* [[Wrestling/AllJapanWomensProWrestling Zenjo]] vs JWP vs LLPW. Then Zenjo vs GAEA.



* Also, Wrestling/ShawnMichaels and Wrestling/BretHart has finally settled their differences, but that doesn't stop their respective fans from engaging in flame wars regarding who was better.

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* Also, Wrestling/ShawnMichaels and Wrestling/BretHart has finally have settled their differences, but that doesn't stop their respective fans from engaging in flame wars regarding who was better.



* Nowadays its Wrestling/{{WWE}} vs. Wrestling/{{NJPW}} (w/ROH to a lesser extent due to their crossovers) vs. Wrestling/LuchaUnderground and occasionally Anthem!Wrestling/ImpactWrestling as a four-way dance.
** Or as All In and Wrestling/ChrisJericho's Cruise proves its NJPW, ROH, Impact, Lucha Underground/AAA, WOS & MLW ''[[RivalsTeamUp vs.]]'' WWE

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* Nowadays its Wrestling/{{WWE}} vs. Wrestling/{{NJPW}} (w/ROH (w/ROH\CMLL to a lesser extent due to their crossovers) vs. Wrestling/LuchaUnderground and occasionally Anthem!Wrestling/ImpactWrestling as a four-way dance.
** Or as All In the Wrestling/{{Cody|Rhodes}}\[[Wrestling/TheYoungBucks Young Bucks]] driven ''All In'' and Wrestling/ChrisJericho's Cruise proves prove its NJPW, ROH, Impact, Lucha Underground/AAA, WOS & MLW ''[[RivalsTeamUp vs.]]'' WWE
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* Prior to the mid 1980s, "Puroresu" was just {{Engrish}}, a rough untranslated way of Japanese fans said "Pro Wrestling". During the mid 1980s, the Japanese diaspora began using "puroresu" in the vein Mexican and some other Spanish speaking fans used "Lucha Libre" when referring to a specific style of pro wrestling. While "lucha libre", roughly translating to "free fight", grew out of an existing pro wrestling tradition, ''was'' rather different from what came before it and pretty much took over the entire wrestling circuit, the insistence of "[[InsistentTerminology puroresu]]" was born out of desire to not be associated with the WWF and Wrestling/{{GLOW}}.

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* Prior to the mid 1980s, "Puroresu" was just {{Engrish}}, a rough untranslated way of Japanese fans said "Pro Wrestling". During the mid 1980s, the Japanese diaspora began using "puroresu" in the vein Mexican and some other Spanish speaking fans used "Lucha Libre" when referring to a specific style of pro wrestling. While "lucha libre", roughly translating to "free fight", grew out of an existing pro wrestling tradition, ''was'' rather different from what came before it and pretty much took over the entire Mexico's wrestling circuit, the insistence of "[[InsistentTerminology puroresu]]" was born out of desire to not be associated with the WWF and Wrestling/{{GLOW}}.

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* ''Film/StarWarsTheLastJedi'' has one with both ''Film/WonderWoman'' and ''Film/{{Black Panther|2018}}''. Although the films are critical and commercial hits, while also having non-{{White Male Lead}}s, the two superhero movies are better received among audiences than ''The Last Jedi'' and didn't experience the same amount vitriolic backlash. This in turn has led to the fanbases arguing about which film is better at representing women and minorities while also providing escapist entertainment.

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has one with both ''Film/WonderWoman'' and ''Film/{{Black Panther|2018}}''. Although the films are critical and commercial hits, while also having non-{{White Male Lead}}s, the two superhero movies are better received among audiences than ''The Last Jedi'' and didn't experience the same amount vitriolic backlash. This in turn has led to the fanbases arguing about which film is better at representing women and minorities while also providing escapist entertainment.entertainment.
** In turn, ''The Last Jedi'' fans has a rivalry with fans of superhero movies in regard to debates about formula and audience-pleasing. ''The Last Jedi'' fans claim that superhero movies play it too safe and have spoiled audiences into becoming very hostile to deconstructions and genre-critiquing in blockbusters. Superhero fans, however, pointed out that their movies can be as introspective and deconstructive as ''The Last Jedi'' and that the movie should have only itself to blame for its backlash. It doesn't help that many superhero movies released from 2016 to 2018 share similarities to ''The Last Jedi'' [[note]]Whether it's having an escapist hero growing into a jaded mentor (''Film/{{Logan}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManIntoTheSpiderVerse''), themes of dealing with the past (''Film/ThorRagnarok'' and ''Film/{{Black Panther|2018}}''), or non-{{White Male Lead}}s (''Black Panther'', ''Film/WonderWoman'', and ''Film/{{Aquaman}}'')[[/note]] but none of the reactionary backlash.
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* Recently, there's been one between ''Theatre/Heathers'' and ''Theatre/MeanGirls'', with the former accusing the latter of being a ripoff.
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*This applies to some people who liked their favourite holiday with passion but hate another holiday with a vengeance and there are several of them: Christmas vs. Halloween, Valentine's Day vs. St. Patrick's Day, Easter vs. April Fool's Day, etc.
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** Like in the MCU, there is a intra-franchise rivalry in the DCEU regarding the tone and direction of the franchise. When ''Film/WonderWoman'' was released in 2017, it became the most critically and financially[[note]]Although its worldwide gross is less than that of ''Batman v Superman'', its higher domestic gross and lower budget means that it generated a ''much'' higher profit margin.[[/note]] successful DCEU movie up to that time, while also garnering praise from figures like Creator/FrankMiller, Creator/RichardDonner, and Creator/ChristopherNolan. Likewise, ''Film/{{Aquaman}}'' was released the following year and received a better critical reception compared to ''Film/ManOfSteel'' and ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''. However, some fans of Creator/{{Zack Snyder}} (director of ''Man of Steel'' and ''Batman v. Superman'') have accused ''Wonder Woman'' and ''Aquaman'' of "selling out" by adopting a more optimistic tone and abandoning the unique DarkerAndEdgier feel of previous DCEU films. This in turn has led to some ''Wonder Woman'' and ''Aquaman'' fans firing back at these detractors for either refusing or failing to acknowledge that a dark tone doesn't automatically result in a good film and that the Creator/PattyJenkins and Creator/JamesWan deliberately choose to make their movies more light-hearted by their own volition. Furthermore, Superman fans were riled when ''Film/Shazam2019'' director David Sandberg joked how Shazam could kick the DCEU!Superman's ass and mocked the [[NeverLiveItDown infamous]] "Save Martha!" scene from ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''. Granted, Sandberg was joking but some DCEU fans [[PoesLaw took his comments at face value]].[[note]]Given how the character was created as a Superman knockoff by Fawcett comics, there are bound to be flame wars about who is the better hero regardless of the creative minds involved in these movies.[[/note]]

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** Like in the MCU, there is a intra-franchise rivalry in the DCEU regarding the tone and direction of the franchise. When ''Film/WonderWoman'' was released in 2017, it became the most critically and financially[[note]]Although its worldwide gross is less than that of ''Batman v Superman'', its higher domestic gross and lower budget means that it generated a ''much'' higher profit margin.[[/note]] successful DCEU movie up to that time, while also garnering praise from figures like Creator/FrankMiller, Creator/RichardDonner, and Creator/ChristopherNolan. Likewise, ''Film/{{Aquaman}}'' was released the following year and received a better critical reception compared to ''Film/ManOfSteel'' and ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''. However, some fans of Creator/{{Zack Snyder}} (director of ''Man of Steel'' and ''Batman v. Superman'') have accused ''Wonder Woman'' and ''Aquaman'' of "selling out" by adopting a more optimistic tone and abandoning the unique DarkerAndEdgier feel of previous DCEU films. This in turn has led to some ''Wonder Woman'' and ''Aquaman'' fans firing back at these detractors for either refusing or failing to acknowledge that a dark tone doesn't automatically result in a good film and that the directors Creator/PattyJenkins and Creator/JamesWan deliberately choose to make their movies more light-hearted by their own volition. Furthermore, Superman fans were riled when ''Film/Shazam2019'' director David Sandberg joked how Shazam could kick the DCEU!Superman's ass and mocked the [[NeverLiveItDown infamous]] "Save Martha!" scene from ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''. Granted, Sandberg was joking but some DCEU fans [[PoesLaw took his comments at face value]].[[note]]Given how the character was created as a Superman knockoff by Fawcett comics, there are bound to be flame wars about who is the better hero regardless of the creative minds involved in these movies.[[/note]]
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** Another ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga'' rivalry has sparked with fans of the Burton directed Film/{{Batman}} movies. Particularly over whether Creator/JackNicholson or Creator/HeathLedger is better as Comicbook/TheJoker (then there are those who like Caesar Romero, clown-whited-out mustache and all).

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** Another ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga'' rivalry has sparked with fans of the Burton directed Film/{{Batman}} ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' movies. Particularly over whether Creator/JackNicholson or Creator/HeathLedger is better as Comicbook/TheJoker (then there are those who like [[Series/Batman1966 Caesar Romero, Romero]], clown-whited-out mustache and all).
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** Like in the MCU, there is a intra-franchise rivalry in the DCEU regarding the tone and direction of the franchise, mostly owing to the negative critical reception of films directed by Creator/{{Zack Snyder}}. When ''Film/WonderWoman'' was released in 2017, it became the most critically and financially[[note]]Although its worldwide gross is less than that of ''Batman v Superman'', its higher domestic gross and lower budget means that it generated a ''much'' higher profit margin.[[/note]] successful DCEU movie up to that time, while also garnering praise from figures like Creator/FrankMiller, Creator/RichardDonner, and Creator/ChristopherNolan. Ditto for ''Film/{{Aquaman}}'', which got positive reviews and has gotten a better critical reception than ''Film/ManOfSteel'' and ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''. However, some hardcore fans of Zack Snyder (director of ''Man of Steel'' and ''Batman v. Superman'') have accused ''Wonder Woman'' and ''Aquaman'' of "selling out" by adopting a more optimistic tone and abandoning the unique DarkerAndEdgier feel of previous DCEU films. This in turn has led to ''Wonder Woman'' and ''Aquaman'' fans firing back at Snyder's hardcore fans for either refusing or failing to acknowledge that a dark tone doesn't automatically result in a good film and that the Creator/PattyJenkins and Creator/JamesWan deliberately choose to make their movies more light-hearted by their own volition. Furthermore, some fans of Snyder's Superman were riled when ''Film/Shazam2019'' director David Sandberg joked how Shazam could kick the DCEU!Superman's ass and mocked the [[NeverLiveItDown infamous]] "Save Martha!" scene from ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''. Granted, Sandberg was joking but some DCEU fans [[PoesLaw took his comments at face value]].[[note]]Given how the character, back when he was called Captain Marvel, was created as a Superman knockoff by Fawcett comics, there are bound to be flame wars about who is the better hero.[[/note]]

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** Like in the MCU, there is a intra-franchise rivalry in the DCEU regarding the tone and direction of the franchise, mostly owing to the negative critical reception of films directed by Creator/{{Zack Snyder}}.franchise. When ''Film/WonderWoman'' was released in 2017, it became the most critically and financially[[note]]Although its worldwide gross is less than that of ''Batman v Superman'', its higher domestic gross and lower budget means that it generated a ''much'' higher profit margin.[[/note]] successful DCEU movie up to that time, while also garnering praise from figures like Creator/FrankMiller, Creator/RichardDonner, and Creator/ChristopherNolan. Ditto for ''Film/{{Aquaman}}'', which got positive reviews Likewise, ''Film/{{Aquaman}}'' was released the following year and has gotten received a better critical reception than compared to ''Film/ManOfSteel'' and ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''. However, some hardcore fans of Zack Snyder Creator/{{Zack Snyder}} (director of ''Man of Steel'' and ''Batman v. Superman'') have accused ''Wonder Woman'' and ''Aquaman'' of "selling out" by adopting a more optimistic tone and abandoning the unique DarkerAndEdgier feel of previous DCEU films. This in turn has led to some ''Wonder Woman'' and ''Aquaman'' fans firing back at Snyder's hardcore fans these detractors for either refusing or failing to acknowledge that a dark tone doesn't automatically result in a good film and that the Creator/PattyJenkins and Creator/JamesWan deliberately choose to make their movies more light-hearted by their own volition. Furthermore, some fans of Snyder's Superman fans were riled when ''Film/Shazam2019'' director David Sandberg joked how Shazam could kick the DCEU!Superman's ass and mocked the [[NeverLiveItDown infamous]] "Save Martha!" scene from ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''. Granted, Sandberg was joking but some DCEU fans [[PoesLaw took his comments at face value]].[[note]]Given how the character, back when he was called Captain Marvel, character was created as a Superman knockoff by Fawcett comics, there are bound to be flame wars about who is the better hero.hero regardless of the creative minds involved in these movies.[[/note]]
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** Like in the MCU, there is a intra-franchise rivalry in the DCEU regarding the tone and direction of the franchise. When ''Film/WonderWoman'' was released in 2017, it became the most critically and financially[[note]]Although its worldwide gross is less than that of ''Batman v Superman'', its higher domestic gross and lower budget means that it generated a ''much'' higher profit margin.[[/note]] successful DCEU movie up to that time, while also garnering praise from figures like Creator/FrankMiller, Creator/RichardDonner, and Creator/ChristopherNolan. Likewise, ''Film/{{Aquaman}}'' was highly praised for embracing the whimsical and idealistic nature of its source material. However, some hardcore fans of Creator/{{Zack Snyder}} (director of ''Film/ManOfSteel'', ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'', and most of ''Film/{{JusticeLeague}}'') have accused the ''Wonder Woman'' and ''Aquaman'' of "selling out" and "artistically bankrupt" by adopting a more optimistic tone and ditching the DarkerAndEdgier feel of previous DCEU films. This in turn has led to ''Wonder Woman'' and ''Aquaman'' fans firing back at how Snyder's hardcore fans either fail or refuse to acknowledge that darkness doesn't automatically equals quality and that the Snyder's films aren't masterpieces. Furthermore, some Superman fans were riled when ''Film/Shazam2019'' director David Sandberg joked how Shazam could kick the DCEU!Superman's ass and mocked the [[NeverLiveItDown infamous]] "Save Martha!" scene from ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''. Granted, Sandberg was joking but some DCEU fans [[PoesLaw took his comments at face value]].[[note]]Given how the character, back when he was called Captain Marvel, was created as a Superman knockoff by Fawcett comics, there are bound to be flame wars about who is the better hero.[[/note]]

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** Like in the MCU, there is a intra-franchise rivalry in the DCEU regarding the tone and direction of the franchise.franchise, mostly owing to the negative critical reception of films directed by Creator/{{Zack Snyder}}. When ''Film/WonderWoman'' was released in 2017, it became the most critically and financially[[note]]Although its worldwide gross is less than that of ''Batman v Superman'', its higher domestic gross and lower budget means that it generated a ''much'' higher profit margin.[[/note]] successful DCEU movie up to that time, while also garnering praise from figures like Creator/FrankMiller, Creator/RichardDonner, and Creator/ChristopherNolan. Likewise, ''Film/{{Aquaman}}'' was highly praised Ditto for embracing the whimsical ''Film/{{Aquaman}}'', which got positive reviews and idealistic nature of its source material. has gotten a better critical reception than ''Film/ManOfSteel'' and ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''. However, some hardcore fans of Creator/{{Zack Snyder}} Zack Snyder (director of ''Film/ManOfSteel'', ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'', ''Man of Steel'' and most of ''Film/{{JusticeLeague}}'') ''Batman v. Superman'') have accused the ''Wonder Woman'' and ''Aquaman'' of "selling out" and "artistically bankrupt" by adopting a more optimistic tone and ditching abandoning the unique DarkerAndEdgier feel of previous DCEU films. This in turn has led to ''Wonder Woman'' and ''Aquaman'' fans firing back at how Snyder's hardcore fans for either fail refusing or refuse failing to acknowledge that darkness a dark tone doesn't automatically equals quality result in a good film and that the Snyder's films aren't masterpieces. Creator/PattyJenkins and Creator/JamesWan deliberately choose to make their movies more light-hearted by their own volition. Furthermore, some fans of Snyder's Superman fans were riled when ''Film/Shazam2019'' director David Sandberg joked how Shazam could kick the DCEU!Superman's ass and mocked the [[NeverLiveItDown infamous]] "Save Martha!" scene from ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''. Granted, Sandberg was joking but some DCEU fans [[PoesLaw took his comments at face value]].[[note]]Given how the character, back when he was called Captain Marvel, was created as a Superman knockoff by Fawcett comics, there are bound to be flame wars about who is the better hero.[[/note]]
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** Like in the MCU, there is a intra-franchise rivalry in the DCEU regarding the tone and direction of the franchise. When ''Film/WonderWoman'' was released in 2017, it became the most critically and financially[[note]]Although its worldwide gross is less than that of ''Batman v Superman'', its higher domestic gross and lower budget means that it generated a ''much'' higher profit margin.[[/note]] successful DCEU movie up to that time, while also garnering praise from figures like Creator/FrankMiller, Creator/RichardDonner, and Creator/ChristopherNolan. Likewise, ''Film/{{Aquaman}}'' was highly praised for embracing the whimsical and idealistic nature of its source material. However, some hardcore fans of Creator/{{Zack Snyder}} (director of ''Film/ManOfSteel'', ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'', and most of ''Film/{{JusticeLeague}}'') have accused the ''Wonder Woman'' and ''Aquaman'' of "selling out" and "artistically bankrupt" by adopting a more optimistic tone and ditching the DarkerAndEdgier feel of previous DCEU films. This in turn has led to ''Wonder Woman'' and ''Aquaman'' fans firing back at how Snyder's hardcore fans either fail or refuse to acknowledge that DarkerAndEdgier [[TrueArtIsAngsty automatically equals quality]] regardless of context while also failing to simply admitting that the Snyder's interpretation of DC superheroes aren't masterpieces. Furthermore, some Superman fans were riled when ''Film/Shazam2019'' director David Sandberg joked how Shazam could kick the DCEU!Superman's ass and mocked the [[NeverLiveItDown infamous]] "Save Martha!" scene from ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''. Granted, Sandberg was joking but some DCEU fans [[PoesLaw took his comments at face value]].[[note]]Given how the character, back when he was called Captain Marvel, was created as a Superman knockoff by Fawcett comics, there are bound to be flame wars about who is the better hero.[[/note]]

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** Like in the MCU, there is a intra-franchise rivalry in the DCEU regarding the tone and direction of the franchise. When ''Film/WonderWoman'' was released in 2017, it became the most critically and financially[[note]]Although its worldwide gross is less than that of ''Batman v Superman'', its higher domestic gross and lower budget means that it generated a ''much'' higher profit margin.[[/note]] successful DCEU movie up to that time, while also garnering praise from figures like Creator/FrankMiller, Creator/RichardDonner, and Creator/ChristopherNolan. Likewise, ''Film/{{Aquaman}}'' was highly praised for embracing the whimsical and idealistic nature of its source material. However, some hardcore fans of Creator/{{Zack Snyder}} (director of ''Film/ManOfSteel'', ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'', and most of ''Film/{{JusticeLeague}}'') have accused the ''Wonder Woman'' and ''Aquaman'' of "selling out" and "artistically bankrupt" by adopting a more optimistic tone and ditching the DarkerAndEdgier feel of previous DCEU films. This in turn has led to ''Wonder Woman'' and ''Aquaman'' fans firing back at how Snyder's hardcore fans either fail or refuse to acknowledge that DarkerAndEdgier [[TrueArtIsAngsty darkness doesn't automatically equals quality]] regardless of context while also failing to simply admitting quality and that the Snyder's interpretation of DC superheroes films aren't masterpieces. Furthermore, some Superman fans were riled when ''Film/Shazam2019'' director David Sandberg joked how Shazam could kick the DCEU!Superman's ass and mocked the [[NeverLiveItDown infamous]] "Save Martha!" scene from ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''. Granted, Sandberg was joking but some DCEU fans [[PoesLaw took his comments at face value]].[[note]]Given how the character, back when he was called Captain Marvel, was created as a Superman knockoff by Fawcett comics, there are bound to be flame wars about who is the better hero.[[/note]]
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** Like in the MCU, there is a intra-franchise rivalry in the DCEU regarding the tone and direction of the franchise. When ''Film/WonderWoman'' was released in 2017, it became the most critically and financially[[note]]Although its worldwide gross is less than that of ''Batman v Superman'', its higher domestic gross and lower budget means that it generated a ''much'' higher profit margin.[[/note]] successful DCEU movie, while also garnering praise from figures like Creator/FrankMiller, Creator/RichardDonner, and Creator/ChristopherNolan. However, some fans of Creator/{{Zack Snyder}}'s ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' and Creator/{{David Ayer}}'s ''Film/SuicideSquad'' have accused ''Wonder Woman'' of "selling out" by adopting a more optimistic tone and ditching the DarkerAndEdgier feel of previous DCEU films. Furthermore, some Superman fans were riled when ''Film/Shazam2019'' director David Sandberg joked how Shazam could kick the DCEU!Superman's ass and mocked the [[NeverLiveItDown infamous]] "Save Martha!" scene from ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''. Granted, Sandberg was joking but some DCEU fans [[PoesLaw took his comments at face value]].[[note]]Given how the character, back when he was called Captain Marvel, was created as a Superman knockoff by Fawcett comics, there are bound to be flame wars about who is the better hero.[[/note]]

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** Like in the MCU, there is a intra-franchise rivalry in the DCEU regarding the tone and direction of the franchise. When ''Film/WonderWoman'' was released in 2017, it became the most critically and financially[[note]]Although its worldwide gross is less than that of ''Batman v Superman'', its higher domestic gross and lower budget means that it generated a ''much'' higher profit margin.[[/note]] successful DCEU movie, movie up to that time, while also garnering praise from figures like Creator/FrankMiller, Creator/RichardDonner, and Creator/ChristopherNolan. Likewise, ''Film/{{Aquaman}}'' was highly praised for embracing the whimsical and idealistic nature of its source material. However, some hardcore fans of Creator/{{Zack Snyder}}'s ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' Snyder}} (director of ''Film/ManOfSteel'', ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'', and Creator/{{David Ayer}}'s ''Film/SuicideSquad'' most of ''Film/{{JusticeLeague}}'') have accused the ''Wonder Woman'' and ''Aquaman'' of "selling out" and "artistically bankrupt" by adopting a more optimistic tone and ditching the DarkerAndEdgier feel of previous DCEU films.films. This in turn has led to ''Wonder Woman'' and ''Aquaman'' fans firing back at how Snyder's hardcore fans either fail or refuse to acknowledge that DarkerAndEdgier [[TrueArtIsAngsty automatically equals quality]] regardless of context while also failing to simply admitting that the Snyder's interpretation of DC superheroes aren't masterpieces. Furthermore, some Superman fans were riled when ''Film/Shazam2019'' director David Sandberg joked how Shazam could kick the DCEU!Superman's ass and mocked the [[NeverLiveItDown infamous]] "Save Martha!" scene from ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice''. Granted, Sandberg was joking but some DCEU fans [[PoesLaw took his comments at face value]].[[note]]Given how the character, back when he was called Captain Marvel, was created as a Superman knockoff by Fawcett comics, there are bound to be flame wars about who is the better hero.[[/note]]
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** Note that this MCU rivalry is different for ''X-Men'' than for ''The Amazing Spider-Man'' (which has a FandomRivalry with ''DOFP'' in its own right). Due to ''DOFP'''s very positive reception, the rivalry is less "they're turning the series into a FranchiseZombie [[AshCanCopy just to hold on to the rights]]"[[note]]A criticism of ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan2'' by [[BrokenBase some fans]][[/note]] and more "which Marvel movie series/universe is better". Although Disney's buyout of Fox initially seemed to quell the rivalry, in many ways it actually intensified the rivalry with some fans worried that the X-Men will be cheapened by their inclusion in the MCU. Said fans have argued that the X-Men and their themes work better in their own universe, since it wouldn't make sense why the Avengers are so respected yet mutants are hated. Furthermore, recasting rumors and the potential scrapping of several film projects also led to outrage among fans who have become attached to the X-Men characters and films.

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** Note that this MCU rivalry is different for ''X-Men'' than for ''The Amazing Spider-Man'' (which has a FandomRivalry with ''DOFP'' in its own right). Due to ''DOFP'''s very positive reception, the rivalry is less "they're turning the series into a FranchiseZombie [[AshCanCopy just to hold on to the rights]]"[[note]]A criticism of ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan2'' by [[BrokenBase some fans]][[/note]] and more "which Marvel movie series/universe is better". Although Disney's buyout of Fox the Disney-Fox merge initially seemed to quell the rivalry, in many ways it actually intensified the rivalry with some fans worried that the X-Men will be cheapened by their inclusion in the MCU. Said fans have argued that the X-Men and their themes work better in their own universe, since it wouldn't make sense why the Avengers are so respected yet mutants are hated. Furthermore, the X-Men movies tend to be more darker and violent than the MCU movies, which has led to concerns that there won't be another R-Rated X-men movie in the MCU. Not helping matters is that recasting rumors and the potential scrapping of several film projects also has led to outrage among fans who have become attached to the X-Men characters and films.
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* While there's significant overlap in the fandoms, there's been some sniping between admirers of Creator/AlfredHitchcock and Creator/BrianDePalma. The Hitchcock side accuses De Palma of crossing the line from homage to [[FollowTheLeader outright ripoff]] of Hitchcock in his thrillers. The De Palma side argues that De Palma's references to Hitchcock are just part of a larger sophisticated sensibility in De Palma's work, and that De Palma's films were actually better than [[SeasonalRot Hitchcock's later films]].

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* Recently, this has been expanded into Batman fans vs fans of other DC superheroes.

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* Recently, ** Later on, this has been expanded into Batman fans vs vs. fans of other DC superheroes.



* In the MarvelUniverse their seems to be a rivalry at times between the fans that only read ''ComicBook/XMen'' comics, and the fans that read everything else but the X-Men.

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* In Within the MarvelUniverse their seems to be Marvel fandom, there is a rivalry at times divide between the fans that only read ''ComicBook/XMen'' comics, and the fans that read everything else but the X-Men.''X-Men''.



* ''[[ComicBook/TheAvengers Avengers]]'' fans vs. ''ComicBook/XMen'' fans, particularly from the X-side, who widely see Marvel as neglecting the X-Men in favor of the Avengers due to only having the film rights for the latter team and [[ComicBook/IronMan many]] [[ComicBook/IncredibleHulk of]] [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor its]] [[ComicBook/CaptainAmerica characters]]. In 2012, there was actually an ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen'' mega-crossover.
** This has spilled over into the film franchises as well. There's been many a debate over which franchise has the better movies, with many from the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse side wanting Fox to lose their rights in order to absorb the X-Men into the MCU. Not helping matters was the legal gray area concerning the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, two characters synonymous with ''both'' franchises. This led to loads of debates over which franchise "deserves" the twins more. Quicksilver in particular has been cast for both ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' and ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast''. [[spoiler:''Disney'' Ultimately decided that the MCU Quicksilver was KilledOffForReal at the end of his debut film, (though many speculate it may just be a ComicBookDeath) it is often seen as Disney's way of saying they didn't need Quicksilver]].
* ''ComicBook/AvengersArena'' vs. ''Comicbook/{{Runaways}}'', ''ComicBook/AvengersAcademy'', and ''Sentinel'' fans (despite Arena featuring characters from all of those comics). Basically Arena is a ContestedSequel to those comics with the AudienceAlienatingPremise of the ''Film/TheHungerGames''[=/=]''Film/BattleRoyale'' meets the [[KidHero youth of the marvel verse]]. Fans of the characters mostly hate Arena and its [[CannonFodder Kill the C listers]] premise, along with its fans who don't seem to care about [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter characters from critical darling books being wasted]] in a FollowTheLeader book, while fans of Arena for the most part just want to enjoy the story without being bogged down by countinity or having to listen to Academy and Runaways fans complain about the deaths.
** Thanks to ComicBook/{{X 23}} being in the series and their FriendlyFandoms status with ''Runaways'' and ''Academy'' fans, fans of ''[[ComicBook/NewMutants New X-Men]]'' don't hold many warm feelings for ''Avengers Arena'' either. Notable that is seems to reach on both sides of their BrokenBase -- fans of Weir & [=DeFilipis=] run hate Arena for the same reasons they hate Kyle & Yost run, while fans of Kyle & Yost run see Arena as shallow attempt at replicating its success that's CompletelyMissingThePoint.

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* ''[[ComicBook/TheAvengers Avengers]]'' fans vs. ''ComicBook/XMen'' fans, particularly from the X-side, latter side, who widely see Marvel as neglecting the X-Men in favor of the Avengers due to only having the film rights for the latter team and [[ComicBook/IronMan many]] [[ComicBook/IncredibleHulk of]] [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor its]] [[ComicBook/CaptainAmerica characters]]. In 2012, there was actually an ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen'' mega-crossover.
** This has spilled over into the film franchises as well. There's been many a debate over which franchise has the better movies, with many from the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse side wanting Fox to lose their rights in order to absorb the X-Men into the MCU. Not helping matters was the legal gray area concerning the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, two characters synonymous with ''both'' franchises. This led to loads of debates over which franchise "deserves" the twins more. Quicksilver in particular has been cast for both ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' and ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast''. [[spoiler:''Disney'' Ultimately decided [[spoiler:The fact that the MCU Quicksilver was KilledOffForReal at the end of his debut film, (though many speculate it may just be a ComicBookDeath) it is often seen as Disney's way of saying they didn't need Quicksilver]].
* ''ComicBook/AvengersArena'' vs. ''Comicbook/{{Runaways}}'', ''ComicBook/AvengersAcademy'', and ''Sentinel'' fans (despite Arena featuring characters from all of those comics). Basically Arena is a ContestedSequel to those comics with the AudienceAlienatingPremise of the ''Film/TheHungerGames''[=/=]''Film/BattleRoyale'' meets the [[KidHero youth of the marvel Marvel verse]]. Fans of the characters mostly hate Arena and its [[CannonFodder Kill the C listers]] premise, along with its fans who don't seem to care about [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter characters from critical darling books being wasted]] in a FollowTheLeader book, while fans of Arena for the most part just want to enjoy the story without being bogged down by countinity or having to listen to Academy and Runaways fans complain about the deaths.
** Thanks to ComicBook/{{X 23}} being in the series and their FriendlyFandoms status with ''Runaways'' and ''Academy'' fans, fans of ''[[ComicBook/NewMutants New X-Men]]'' don't hold many warm feelings for ''Avengers Arena'' either. Notable that is seems to reach on both sides of their BrokenBase -- fans of Weir & [=DeFilipis=] [=DeFilipis=]' run hate Arena ''Arena'' for the same reasons they hate Kyle & Yost Yost's run, while fans of Kyle & Yost Yost's run see Arena ''Arena'' as shallow attempt at replicating its success that's CompletelyMissingThePoint.



* Fans of post ComicBook/{{Annihilation}} Cosmic Marvel and fans of Creator/JonathanHickman can get quite vocal against each other. It generally boils down to whether you like Hickman's stories enough to pass on the fact he quickly undid everything Creator/DanAbnett and Andy Lanning estabilished for many characters and teams, that didn't fit his vision.

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* Fans of post ComicBook/{{Annihilation}} Cosmic Marvel and fans of Creator/JonathanHickman can get quite vocal against each other. It generally boils down to whether you like Hickman's stories enough to pass on the fact he quickly undid everything Creator/DanAbnett and Andy Lanning estabilished established for many characters and teams, that didn't fit his vision.



** There's also fighting over the writer of the main ''Inhuman'', and later ''Uncanny Inhumans'' series, Charles Soule. With the announcement that Brian Michael Bendis would be leaving the X-books, and the lack of any announcement on who would follow him, or even if a new X-book will exist, many X-fans want Charles Soule on the X-books. This is due to him already being a fan favourite writer, and the fact that he penned ''Death of Wolverine''. This hope got thrashed by the ComicBook/AllNewAllDifferentMarvel announcements (X-Books are by various writers but Jeff Lemire got two and is the main X-writer, while Charles Soule still writes the main Inhumans book, and is even getting ''another'' one: ''All-New Inhumans''), but Soule ''would'' eventually write ''ComicBook/AstonishingXMen'' once he left the Inhumans books (though by this point, ''neither'' fandom particularly wanted him).

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** There's also fighting over the writer of the main ''Inhuman'', and later ''Uncanny Inhumans'' series, Charles Soule. With the announcement that Brian Michael Bendis would be leaving the X-books, and the lack of any announcement on who would follow him, or even if a new X-book will exist, many X-fans want Charles Soule on the X-books. This is due to him already being a fan favourite favorite writer, and the fact that he penned ''Death of Wolverine''. This hope got thrashed by the ComicBook/AllNewAllDifferentMarvel announcements (X-Books are by various writers but Jeff Lemire got two and is the main X-writer, while Charles Soule still writes the main Inhumans book, and is even getting ''another'' one: ''All-New Inhumans''), but Soule ''would'' eventually write ''ComicBook/AstonishingXMen'' once he left the Inhumans books (though by this point, ''neither'' fandom particularly wanted him).



** Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} Kara Zor-El fans vs Linda Danvers fans. The first -and considerably larger- group isn't particularly interested in a Supergirl that isn't Superman's Kryptonian's cousin (although they usually respect Linda). The second group refuses to consider that other Supergirls may be good and worthwhile characters and bash Kara at every turn. (And everyone hates Cir-El.)
* The fans of particular Robins can get pretty intense with fans of a different Robin, though it's not uncommon to find people who like multiple Robins (though it's rarer to find fans of ''all'').
** This is particularly true between Dick Grayson fans and Jason Todd fans, since the characters are pretty much polar opposites, with one being the favourite son and a NiceGuy, while the other is the unfavourite and an anti-hero. Dick fans see Jason as a badly written "edgy" character while Jason fans see Dick as too nice and spoiled by Bruce.

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** Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} With Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}, there are the Kara Zor-El fans vs Linda Danvers fans. The first -and - and considerably larger- larger - group isn't particularly interested in a Supergirl that isn't Superman's Kryptonian's Kryptonian cousin (although they usually respect Linda). The second group refuses to consider that other Supergirls may be good and worthwhile characters and bash Kara at every turn. [[EnemyMine (And everyone hates Cir-El.)
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* The fans of particular Robins ComicBook/{{Robin}}s can get pretty intense with fans of a different Robin, though it's not uncommon to find people who like multiple Robins (though it's rarer to find fans of ''all'').
** This is particularly true between Dick Grayson fans and Jason Todd fans, since the characters are pretty much polar opposites, with one being the favourite favorite son and a NiceGuy, while the other is the unfavourite unfavorite and an anti-hero. Dick fans see Jason as a badly written "edgy" character while Jason fans see Dick as too nice and spoiled by Bruce.



** Jason fans and Damian fans also tend to not get along, due to perceived favouritism for Damian from the Bat-family in-universe ''and'' editors out of universe, while Damian fans see Damian as Jason "done right". The two also frequently give each other no holds barred beatdowns, which doesn't help matters.

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** Jason fans and Damian fans also tend to not get along, due to perceived favouritism favoritism for Damian from the Bat-family in-universe ''and'' editors out of universe, while Damian fans see Damian as Jason "done right". The two also frequently give each other no holds barred beatdowns, which doesn't help matters.



** The rivalry came to a head with ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' and ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''. It started when the two movies were scheduled to release on the same day until DC moved their movie one month earlier which angered fans. Then the movies came out. [=BvS=] was lambasted by critics while Civil War was a critical hit. Many Civil War reviews fueled the fire by snidely referring back to [=BvS=], using the movie as a platform to get in jabs at Dawn of Justice. DC fans reacted by ''accusing Marvel of paying critics off'' and leaving fake reviews on Rotten Tomatoes and IMDB. This caused Marvel fans to respond by calling [=BvS=] overly pretentious etc.
** Even within the MCU, fans of different movies and characters fight with each other over their merits. Notably, some Captain America and Spider-Man fans resent Iron Man for his WolverinePublicity and accused the character of [[SpotlightStealingSquad overshadowing other superheroes]] since he became major supporting character in both ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' and ''Film/SpiderManHomecoming''. Black Widow fans resent how Captain Marvel will be getting her own solo movie first even though Widow had been in the MCU longer. A one-sided rivalry between Black Panther and Spider-Man fans popped up in 2017 with some Black Panther fans expressing outrage that their movie was delayed from November 2017 to February 2018 make room for ''Film/SpiderManHomecoming'''s release in July 2017. However, since ''Film/{{Black Panther|2018}}'' was released in [[MeaningfulReleaseDate Black History Month]] and has surpassed ''Homecoming'' financially, ''Black Panther'' fans have (mostly) dropped their gripes and animosity. Even now, the rivalry is more of civil debate about whether Toomes from ''Homecoming'' or Killmonger from ''Black Panther'' is the better villain.
* ''Film/ManOfSteel'' fans vs. fans of the Creator/ChristopherReeve movies. One side being a wild pack of ungrateful "highbrows," the other being a beehive full of bitter Methuselahs. Of course, real fa... I mean, plenty of fans like both, but that doesn't matter to the fans engaged in the rivalry.

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** The rivalry came to a head with ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' and ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''. It started when the two movies were scheduled to release on the same day until DC moved their movie one month earlier which angered fans. Then the movies came out. [=BvS=] was lambasted by critics while Civil War ''Civil War'' was a critical hit. Many Civil War Not helping was that ,any ''Civil War'' reviews fueled the fire by snidely referring back to [=BvS=], using the movie as a platform to get in jabs at Dawn ''Dawn of Justice.Justice''. DC fans reacted by ''accusing Marvel of paying critics off'' and leaving fake reviews on Rotten Tomatoes and IMDB. This caused Marvel fans to respond by calling [=BvS=] overly pretentious etc.pretentious.
** Even within the MCU, fans of different movies and characters fight with each other over their merits. Notably, some Captain America and Spider-Man fans resent Iron Man for his WolverinePublicity and accused the character of [[SpotlightStealingSquad overshadowing other superheroes]] since he became major supporting character in both ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' and ''Film/SpiderManHomecoming''. Black Widow fans resent how Captain Marvel will be getting [[Film/CaptainMarvel2019 her own solo movie movie]] first even though Widow had been in the MCU longer. A one-sided rivalry between Black Panther and Spider-Man fans popped up in 2017 with some Black Panther fans expressing outrage that their movie was delayed from November 2017 to February 2018 make room for ''Film/SpiderManHomecoming'''s release in July 2017. However, since ''Film/{{Black Panther|2018}}'' was released in [[MeaningfulReleaseDate Black History Month]] and has surpassed ''Homecoming'' financially, ''Black Panther'' fans have (mostly) dropped their gripes and animosity. Even now, the rivalry is more of civil debate about whether Toomes from ''Homecoming'' or Killmonger from ''Black Panther'' is the better villain.
* ''Film/ManOfSteel'' fans vs. fans of the Creator/ChristopherReeve movies. One The first side being is considered a wild pack of ungrateful "highbrows," "highbrows", the other being a beehive full of bitter Methuselahs. Of course, real fa... I mean, plenty of fans like both, but that doesn't matter to the fans engaged in the rivalry.



** ''Film/ThirtyDaysOfNight'' fans and fans of the director David Slade are now at odds with ''Twilight'' fans because he's now directing ''The Twilight Saga: Eclipse''. ''Twilight'' fans thinking he's gonna ruin it, while Slade fans think he'll finally make the franchise worth the hype. And there's also a BrokenBase regarding the fact that Slade chose to direct ''Eclipse'' when he said he didn't even want to touch the franchise.

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** ''Film/ThirtyDaysOfNight'' fans and fans of the director David Slade are now were at odds with ''Twilight'' fans because he's now directing he directed ''The Twilight Saga: Eclipse''. ''Twilight'' fans thinking he's gonna worried he he was going to ruin it, while Slade fans think he'll believed he would finally make the franchise worth the hype. And there's also a BrokenBase regarding the fact that Slade chose to direct ''Eclipse'' when he said he didn't even want to touch the franchise.



** For that matter, fans of the [[FanNickname J.J. Verse]] vs. fans of the classic Trek series. Many of the latter are resentful of the reboot nature of the former, having desired a continuation of the storyline past the [[Series/STarTrekDeepSpaceNine Dominion War]]. They also often accuse the reboot franchise of simply rehashing the previous films (''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'' using Khan as the main villain certainly didn't help) rather than doing anything new. Fans of the former frequently cite the slicker visual look and argue the reboot provides a fresh direction for a long-running franchise.

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** For that matter, fans of the [[FanNickname J.J. Verse]] vs. fans of the classic Trek ''Trek'' series. Many of the latter are resentful of the reboot nature of the former, having desired a continuation of the storyline past the [[Series/STarTrekDeepSpaceNine Dominion War]]. They also often accuse the reboot franchise of simply rehashing the previous films (''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'' using Khan as the main villain certainly didn't help) rather than doing anything new. Fans of the former frequently cite the slicker visual look and argue the reboot provides a fresh direction for a long-running franchise.



** [shudders and thinks of the internet backdraft between the three films if Literature/JonathanStrangeAndMrNorrell was made into a movie]
* A minor and friendlier rivarly occurred among the filmmakers and fans of the ''Film/XMenFilmSeries'' and ''Film/SpiderManTrilogy'' since both series kick-started the return of comic book movies for the new millenium with their second acts often being cited as some of the best superhero flicks ever made.
* As with Creator/{{Sony}}'s ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderManSeries'', many fans of the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse criticize ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' just for existing and maintaining {{Creator/FOX}}'s hold on the X-Men film rights, since they wish the rights would go to Marvel Studios. All the more since the Marvel Cinematic Universe version of Quicksilver already appeared in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' and is set to return in ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron''. And then there are accusations of Marvel trying to undermine Fox's success by downplaying its ''ComicBook/XMen'' marketing in the comics and cancelling its ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'' titles, while playing up lesser-known concepts such as the ComicBook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy and Inhumans that will appear in its upcoming movies.[[note]]This is something it ''isn't'' doing with Franchise/SpiderMan, for obvious reasons, but Marvel is known to be on better terms with Sony than with Fox as well.[[/note]] Given that most of these franchise's box office draw comes from movie goers and not comic fans, however, one has to wonder how people got this assumption.
** Note that this MCU rivalry is different for ''X-Men'' than for ''The Amazing Spider-Man'' (which has a FandomRivalry with ''DOFP'' in its own right). Due to ''DOFP'''s very positive reception, the rivalry is less "they're turning the series into a FranchiseZombie [[AshCanCopy just to hold on to the rights]]"[[note]]A criticism of ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan2'' by [[BrokenBase some fans]][[/note]] and more "which Marvel movie series/universe is better".[[note]]If you want to get technical, it's also often argued that the concept of X-Men works better in their own universe, since it wouldn't make sense why the Avengers are so respected yet mutants are segregated and hunted -- a reason why Simon Kinberg has [[FlipFlopOfGod stated that]] ''Film/FantasticFour2015'' won't take place in the ''X-Men'' universe.[[/note]]

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** [shudders and thinks of the internet backdraft between the three films if Literature/JonathanStrangeAndMrNorrell was made into a movie]
* A minor and friendlier rivarly rivalry occurred among the filmmakers and fans of the ''Film/XMenFilmSeries'' and ''Film/SpiderManTrilogy'' since both series kick-started the return of comic book movies for the new millenium millennium with their second acts often being cited as some of the best superhero flicks ever made.
* As with Creator/{{Sony}}'s ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderManSeries'', many fans of the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse criticize ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast'' just for existing and maintaining {{Creator/FOX}}'s hold on the X-Men film rights, since they wish the rights would go to Marvel Studios. All the more since the Marvel Cinematic Universe version of Quicksilver already and Scarlet Witch, two characters synonymous with both the Avengers and the X-Men, were in something a legal grey area (and appeared in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' and is set to return in ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron''. both franchises). And then there are the accusations of Marvel trying to undermine Fox's success by downplaying its ''ComicBook/XMen'' marketing in the comics and cancelling its ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'' titles, while playing up lesser-known concepts teams and characters such as the ComicBook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy and Inhumans that will appear in its upcoming movies.[[note]]This is something it ''isn't'' doing with Franchise/SpiderMan, for obvious reasons, but Marvel is known to be on better terms with Sony than with Fox as well.[[/note]] Given that most of these franchise's box office draw comes from movie goers and not comic fans, however, one has to wonder how people got this assumption.
** Note that this MCU rivalry is different for ''X-Men'' than for ''The Amazing Spider-Man'' (which has a FandomRivalry with ''DOFP'' in its own right). Due to ''DOFP'''s very positive reception, the rivalry is less "they're turning the series into a FranchiseZombie [[AshCanCopy just to hold on to the rights]]"[[note]]A criticism of ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan2'' by [[BrokenBase some fans]][[/note]] and more "which Marvel movie series/universe is better".[[note]]If you want Although Disney's buyout of Fox initially seemed to get technical, it's also often quell the rivalry, in many ways it actually intensified the rivalry with some fans worried that the X-Men will be cheapened by their inclusion in the MCU. Said fans have argued that the concept of X-Men works and their themes work better in their own universe, since it wouldn't make sense why the Avengers are so respected yet mutants are segregated hated. Furthermore, recasting rumors and hunted -- a reason why Simon Kinberg has [[FlipFlopOfGod stated that]] ''Film/FantasticFour2015'' won't take place in the ''X-Men'' universe.[[/note]]potential scrapping of several film projects also led to outrage among fans who have become attached to the X-Men characters and films.



** ''Film/{{Logan}}'' was able to remove that hate with a much more intense depiction of Wolverine with a deep R-rating.
*** In fact, both Logan and Deadpool are victims of fandom rivalry on either preferring intense and symbolic works or just for fun X-Men films.
** Although Disney's buyout of Fox initially seemed to quell the rivalry, in many ways it actually intensified the rivalry with some fans worried that the X-Men will be cheapened by their inclusion in the MCU. Said fans have argued that the X-Men and their themes work better in their own universe, since it wouldn't make sense why the Avengers are so respected yet mutants are hated. Furthermore, recasting rumors and the potential scrapping of several film projects also lead to outrage among fans who have become attached to the X-Men characters and films.
* ''Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2014'' is shaping up to be this with ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy.'' They were released a week apart from each other, and they're both based on comic books with an anthropomorphic animal as one of the main characters. Didn't help that the film managed to steal the number 1 spot from them at the box office (although ''Guardians'' had a higher opening). Even more, ''Guardians'' actually took back the number 1 spot sometime afterward.

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** ''Film/{{Logan}}'' was also able to remove that hate with a avoid hatred from MCU fans due to its much more intense depiction of Wolverine with a deep R-rating.
*** In fact, both Logan and Deadpool are victims of fandom rivalry on either preferring intense and symbolic works or just for fun X-Men films.
** Although Disney's buyout of Fox initially seemed to quell the rivalry, in many ways it actually intensified
And then there's the rivalry with some between ''Logan'' fans worried that the X-Men will be cheapened by their inclusion in the MCU. Said and ''Deadpool'' fans have argued that due to the X-Men two films' radically different tones.
** With regards to the Fantastic Four, MCU fans were heavily critical of ''Film/FantasticFour2015'' simply for existing, which wasn't helped by the suspicious timing (the reboot of the FF film franchise was announced in 2009 but made no progress until 2014, which was around the same time the rights to the team would've reverted back to Marvel). Fans of the Fantastic Four, meanwhile, were sour against MCU fans in turn
and their themes work better in their own universe, since it wouldn't make sense why accused Marvel of trying to undermine the Avengers are so respected yet mutants are hated. Furthermore, recasting rumors movie's success (no official merchandise was released for promotion) and the potential scrapping of several film projects also lead to outrage among fans who have become attached team itself due to the X-Men characters cancellation of its ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'' titles (although that was caused more by bad sales than anything else). It was ultimately subverted when the movie came out after a deeply and films.
well-publicized TroubledProduction to scathing reviews and was a BoxOfficeBomb, making many FF fans agree that a film franchise of Marvel's First Family would indeed be better handled under Marvel Studios.
* ''Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2014'' is shaping up to be this with ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy.'' They were released a week apart from each other, and they're both based on comic books with an anthropomorphic animal as one of the main characters. Didn't help that the film managed to steal the number 1 spot from them at the box office (although ''Guardians'' had a higher opening). Even more, ''Guardians'' actually took back the number 1 spot sometime afterward.



* ''Film/StarWarsTheLastJedi'' has one with both ''Film/WonderWoman'' and ''Film/{{Black Panther|2018}}''. Although the films are critical and commercial hits, while also having non-{{White Male Lead}}s, the two superhero movies are better received among audiences than ''The Last Jedi'' and didn't experience the same amount vitriolic backlash. This in turn has led to the fan bases arguing about which film is better at representing minorities while also providing escapist entertainment.
* ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' with the fandom of ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast''. The main sticking point was the debate over which movie "deserved" the rights to the Maximoff twins. Pietro's actually gone on to be cast in ''both'' movies. Emphasized all the more after the reception of the ''X-Men'' film, given how Quicksilver was seen as one of [[EnsembleDarkhorse its best factors]].

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* ''Film/StarWarsTheLastJedi'' has one with both ''Film/WonderWoman'' and ''Film/{{Black Panther|2018}}''. Although the films are critical and commercial hits, while also having non-{{White Male Lead}}s, the two superhero movies are better received among audiences than ''The Last Jedi'' and didn't experience the same amount vitriolic backlash. This in turn has led to the fan bases fanbases arguing about which film is better at representing women and minorities while also providing escapist entertainment.
* ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' with the fandom of ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast''. The main sticking point was the debate over which movie "deserved" the rights to the Maximoff twins. Pietro's actually gone on to be cast in ''both'' movies. Emphasized all the more after the reception of the ''X-Men'' film, given how Quicksilver was seen as one of [[EnsembleDarkhorse its best factors]].
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** Some fans of the former tend to criticise Andrew Garfield's portrayal and others calling him a ReplacementScrappy to Tobey Maguire's portrayal.
** Some fans of the latter tend to criticise Maguire's portrayal by feeling that he was whiny and had a lack of personality in addition to comparing his acting to a brick wall.

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** Some fans of the former tend to criticise criticize Andrew Garfield's portrayal and others calling him a ReplacementScrappy to Tobey Maguire's portrayal.
** Some fans of the latter tend to criticise criticize Maguire's portrayal by feeling that he was whiny and had a lack of personality in addition to comparing his acting to a brick wall.



* Fans vs fans who write FanFiction. If non-fic fans know much about fic-ers they've depicted them as sexually frustrated middle-aged women with too much time on their hands who will pair up anyone with anyone/thing (leading to comments about how "disgusting" fanfic is[[note]]ALL of it[[/note]]). Fic-ers on the other hand bash the rest of the world for "closed minded hate" towards favoured characters or ships, equating a dislike of fanfic with the closeted, agoraphobic nerd who won't remove action figures from the original packaging and is anti-fun. Fic-ers have also been known to get slightly miffed whenever a non-fic-er sociologist or anthropologist tries to "understand" this subculture. For the most part though, both groups casually ignore each other under the mantra that the other just doesn't "get it", and fan fiction tends to remain relatively unknown to the average muggle.

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* Fans vs fans who write FanFiction. If non-fic fans know much about fic-ers they've depicted them as sexually frustrated middle-aged women with too much time on their hands who will pair up anyone with anyone/thing (leading to comments about how "disgusting" fanfic is[[note]]ALL of it[[/note]]). Fic-ers on the other hand bash the rest of the world for "closed minded hate" towards favoured favored characters or ships, equating a dislike of fanfic with the closeted, agoraphobic nerd who won't remove action figures from the original packaging and is anti-fun. Fic-ers have also been known to get slightly miffed whenever a non-fic-er sociologist or anthropologist tries to "understand" this subculture. For the most part though, both groups casually ignore each other under the mantra that the other just doesn't "get it", and fan fiction fanfiction tends to remain relatively unknown to the average muggle.



* Pretty much any edition change for a popular game sets of this. Examples are D&D 2nd Ed vs 3rd Ed, ''TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade'' vs ''TabletopGame/VampireTheRequiem'', D&D 3rd Ed vs D&D 4th Ed.

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* Pretty much any Any edition change for a popular game sets of this. Examples are D&D 2nd Ed vs 3rd Ed, ''TabletopGame/VampireTheMasquerade'' vs ''TabletopGame/VampireTheRequiem'', D&D 3rd Ed vs D&D 4th Ed.



** On the other hand, most serious fans of the Nerd really do hate WebVideo/TheIrateGamer, who is seen as being an inferior rip-off and not confessing to such. Not to mention his SmallNameBigEgo
*** The Nerd's FANS? Several of Rolfe's friends tore into Irate Gamer pretty bad in the AVGN comedy roast, so much so they spent almost as much time calling him a ripoff as they did staying on topic.
* Parodied by the Critic and WebVideo/TheNostalgiaChick in her review of ''WesternAnimation/TheChipmunkAdventure'', as they smugly argue over who has the creepiest, privacy-invadingness fans. [[TakeThatAudience It ends in a tie]].

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** On the other hand, most serious fans of the Nerd really do hate WebVideo/TheIrateGamer, who is seen as being an inferior rip-off and not confessing to such. Not to mention his SmallNameBigEgo
SmallNameBigEgo.
*** The Nerd's FANS? It spills over into real life as well. Several of Rolfe's friends tore into Irate Gamer pretty bad in the AVGN comedy roast, so much so they spent almost as much time calling him a ripoff as they did staying on topic.
* Parodied by the Critic and WebVideo/TheNostalgiaChick in her review of ''WesternAnimation/TheChipmunkAdventure'', as they smugly argue over who has the creepiest, privacy-invadingness privacy-invading fans. [[TakeThatAudience It ends in a tie]].



* Among wineries there's Napa Valley vs. France.

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* Among wineries wineries, there's Napa Valley vs. France.



* Low-calorie fans vs. low-carb fans. (And by extension, saturated fats vs. unsaturated fats, vegetarians vs. omnivores, et cetera.)

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* Low-calorie fans vs. low-carb fans. (And by extension, saturated fats vs. unsaturated fats, vegetarians vs. omnivores, et cetera.etc.)



* UsefulNotes/KentuckyFriedChicken vs. Popeyes vs. (if applicable) Churches vs. Browns[[note]]once again, if applicable, vs. Harolds[[/note]].

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* UsefulNotes/KentuckyFriedChicken vs. Popeyes vs. (if applicable) Churches vs. Browns[[note]]once again, if applicable, applicable[[/note]], vs. Harolds[[/note]].Harolds.



** And in certain areas, both of them vs. Papa Johns.

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** And in certain areas, both of them vs. Papa Johns. Little Caesars joins in as well.



* "Normal" pets like dogs and fish vs more obscure ones like rats or iguana

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* X political party and Y political party, anywhere. It's particularly pronounced in the U.S. with the two-party system.

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* X political party and Y political party, anywhere.''anywhere''. It's particularly pronounced in the U.S. with the two-party system.



** And within the Republican party, moderates vs. Tea Partiers. It's gotten to the point that [[DefeatMeansFriendship unity events]] are being canceled. And of course the Tea Partiers are just going to fire up the Democrats in November.

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** And within the Republican party, moderates vs. Tea Partiers. It's gotten to the point that [[DefeatMeansFriendship unity events]] are being canceled. And of course the Tea Partiers are just going to fire up the Democrats in November.Democrats.



* [[RailEnthusiast Railfans]] tend to strongly dislike Busfans and bus transportation in general due to the mostly correct perception that buses killed the majority of streetcar, commuter and long distance rail passenger services across North America. Most railfans will choose to walk long distances to avoid having to ride a bus.

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* [[RailEnthusiast Railfans]] tend to strongly dislike Busfans bus fans and bus transportation in general due to the mostly correct perception that buses killed the majority of streetcar, commuter and long distance rail passenger services across North America. Most railfans will choose to walk long distances to avoid having to ride a bus.



* As mentioned in the Sports section below, St. Louis and Chicago already have a baseball rivalry but this extends to the two cities themselves since they are basically the two major cities fighting over the center of the country... Kansas City being a possible third option.

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* As mentioned in the Sports section below, St. Louis and Chicago already have a baseball rivalry but this extends to the two cities themselves since they are basically the two major cities fighting over [[FlyoverCountry the center of the country...country]]... Kansas City being a possible third option.



** In UsefulNotes/{{Chicago}}, there are innumerable claimants to the title of best Chicago deep dish. A few places are more popular than others, but the only thing that most aficionados can agree on is that Pizzeria Uno--the unquestioned originator of the modern style--is no longer in the running (having turned into a national chain).

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** In UsefulNotes/{{Chicago}}, there are innumerable claimants to the title of best Chicago deep dish.dish pizza. A few places are more popular than others, but the only thing that most aficionados can agree on is that Pizzeria Uno--the unquestioned originator of the modern style--is no longer in the running (having turned into a national chain).



* Kids vs. no kids. Some parents think it's their job to convince childless by choice people that [[BabiesMakeEverythingBetter they'll change their minds if they have kids or are around them]], while conversely, too many childfree people think it's okay to mock and belittle those who do choose to have kids.

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* Kids vs. no kids. Some parents think it's their job to convince childless by choice people that [[BabiesMakeEverythingBetter they'll change their minds if they have kids or are around them]], while conversely, too many childfree people think it's okay to mock and belittle those who do choose to have kids.kids, to the point some more extreme types are full-on {{Child Hater}}s.
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* ''Comicbook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' divided the Creator/DCComics fandom between fans and haters of the pre-Crisis [[TheMultiverse multiverse]], mostly depending on whether you began reading comics [[UsefulNotes/TheBronzeAgeOfComicBooks before]] or [[UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks after]] the [[CrisisCrossover crossover]]. Discussions between this two groups could become pretty nasty at times.
** It's important to also note that most readers (although there are exceptions) are fans of the Crisis and the ComicBook/PostCrisis universe. However, fans of the ComicBook/PostCrisis universe are divided over those who think pre-ComicBook/{{Crisis|on Infinite Earths}} comics were just as enjoyable as ComicBook/PostCrisis ones, versus those who think everything pre-Crisis was immature, shallow kiddie stuff.

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* ''Comicbook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' divided the Creator/DCComics fandom between fans and haters of the pre-Crisis Pre-Crisis [[TheMultiverse multiverse]], mostly depending on whether you began reading comics [[UsefulNotes/TheBronzeAgeOfComicBooks before]] or [[UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks after]] the [[CrisisCrossover crossover]]. Discussions between this two groups could become pretty nasty at times.
** It's important to also note that most readers (although there are exceptions) are fans of the Crisis ComicBook/PreCrisis and the ComicBook/PostCrisis universe. However, fans of the ComicBook/PostCrisis universe are divided over those who think pre-ComicBook/{{Crisis|on Infinite Earths}} comics were just as enjoyable as ComicBook/PostCrisis ones, versus those who think everything pre-Crisis Pre-Crisis was immature, shallow kiddie stuff.



* ''[[Comicbook/TheAvengers Avengers]]'' fans vs. ''ComicBook/XMen'' fans, particularly from the X-side, who widely see Marvel as neglecting the X-Men in favor of the Avengers due to only having the film rights for the latter team and [[ComicBook/IronMan many]] [[ComicBook/IncredibleHulk of]] [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor its]] [[ComicBook/CaptainAmerica characters]]. In 2012, there was actually an ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen'' mega-crossover.

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* ''[[Comicbook/TheAvengers ''[[ComicBook/TheAvengers Avengers]]'' fans vs. ''ComicBook/XMen'' fans, particularly from the X-side, who widely see Marvel as neglecting the X-Men in favor of the Avengers due to only having the film rights for the latter team and [[ComicBook/IronMan many]] [[ComicBook/IncredibleHulk of]] [[ComicBook/TheMightyThor its]] [[ComicBook/CaptainAmerica characters]]. In 2012, there was actually an ''ComicBook/AvengersVsXMen'' mega-crossover.



* ''ComicBook/{{Deathmate}}'' and its CreatorKiller status for Creator/ValiantComics engendered an eternal loathing between fans of it and Creator/ImageComics, whose ScheduleSlip doomed the event. Not helping this is that very few of Image's books from that era were as well-regarded as Valiant's, so on top of being responsible, they were also the group that many would have preferred gone. Even if the Image of today is nothing like the one that turned ''Deathmate'' into a failure, ItShouldHaveBeenYou is a powerful feeling.

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* ''ComicBook/{{Deathmate}}'' and its CreatorKiller status for Creator/ValiantComics engendered an eternal loathing between fans of it and Creator/ImageComics, whose ScheduleSlip doomed the event. Not helping this is that very few of Image's books from that era were as well-regarded as Valiant's, so on top of being responsible, they were also the group that many would have preferred gone. Even if the Image of today is nothing like the one that turned ''Deathmate'' into a failure, ItShouldHaveBeenYou "It Should Have Been You" is a powerful feeling.



** Referenced in-universe. Discord breaks the mind of ''Literature/LordOfTheRings'' fangirl Pinkie Pie by shouting "''Literature/HarryPotter'' was better!"

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** Referenced in-universe. Discord breaks the mind of ''Literature/LordOfTheRings'' ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'' fangirl Pinkie Pie by shouting "''Literature/HarryPotter'' was better!"
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* To a certain extent, 2009's ''Film/StarTrek'' versus ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' fans, due to the latter taking a lot of attention at the 2010 Oscars fans feel was stolen away from ''Trek''. This is mainly the younger fans that ''Star Trek'' gained, with its hipper, attractive cast and brisker storytelling, as opposed to Cameron's much longer story and more alien world. And that's before we toss in ''Avatar'''s (ultimately lost) rivalry with ''Film/TheHurtLocker'' at the Oscars.

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* To a certain extent, 2009's ''Film/StarTrek'' ''Film/StarTrek2009'' versus ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' fans, due to the latter taking a lot of attention at the 2010 Oscars fans feel was stolen away from ''Trek''. This is mainly the younger fans that ''Star Trek'' gained, with its hipper, attractive cast and brisker storytelling, as opposed to Cameron's much longer story and more alien world. And that's before we toss in ''Avatar'''s (ultimately lost) rivalry with ''Film/TheHurtLocker'' at the Oscars.
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** Godzilla vs. Franchise/{{Gamera}}, sometimes mixing in Clover from ''Film/{{Cloverfield}}''. Godzilla fans often [[TrueArtIsAngsty boast about how much darker]] [[QualityByPopularVote and financially successful]] their movies are while Gamera fans boast that their 90s movies got more high quality reviews than most of Godzilla's movies. It did not help that both of their latest films, ''Film/GodzillaFinalWars'' and ''Film/GameraTheBrave'', both did poorly at the box office.

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** Godzilla vs. Franchise/{{Gamera}}, sometimes mixing in Clover from ''Film/{{Cloverfield}}''. Godzilla fans often [[TrueArtIsAngsty boast about how much darker]] [[QualityByPopularVote and financially successful]] their movies are while Gamera fans boast that their 90s movies got more high quality reviews than most of Godzilla's movies. It did not help that both of their latest films, ''Film/GodzillaFinalWars'' and ''Film/GameraTheBrave'', both did poorly at the box office.
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** Although Disney's buyout of Fox initially seemed to quell the rivalry, in many ways it actually intensified the rivalry with several fans worried that MCU will cheapen the X-Men. Said fans have argued that the X-Men and their themes work better in their own universe, since it wouldn't make sense why the Avengers are so respected yet mutants are hated. Furthermore, recasting rumors and the potential scrapping of several film projects also lead to outrage among fans who have become attached to the X-Men characters and films.

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** Although Disney's buyout of Fox initially seemed to quell the rivalry, in many ways it actually intensified the rivalry with several some fans worried that MCU the X-Men will cheapen be cheapened by their inclusion in the X-Men.MCU. Said fans have argued that the X-Men and their themes work better in their own universe, since it wouldn't make sense why the Avengers are so respected yet mutants are hated. Furthermore, recasting rumors and the potential scrapping of several film projects also lead to outrage among fans who have become attached to the X-Men characters and films.
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** Although Disney's buyout of Fox initially seemed to quell the rivalry, in many ways it actually intensified the rivalry. Although some MCU and X-Men fans have welcomed the deal since it means that the X-Men can team up with the Avengers on film, there are some who worry that the X-Men will be cheapened by their inclusion in the MCU. Said fans have expressed skepticism that Disney would be willing to produce a R-rated X-Men movie or lean heavily on the LGBTQ-themes of the movies. Furthermore, Disney has expressed interest in rebooting the films and recasting the characters, which only lead to outrage among fans who are unwilling to see characters like Logan, Professor X, or Magneto getting recast.

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** Although Disney's buyout of Fox initially seemed to quell the rivalry, in many ways it actually intensified the rivalry. Although some rivalry with several fans worried that MCU and X-Men will cheapen the X-Men. Said fans have welcomed the deal since it means argued that the X-Men can team up with and their themes work better in their own universe, since it wouldn't make sense why the Avengers on film, there are some who worry that the X-Men will be cheapened by their inclusion in the MCU. Said fans have expressed skepticism that Disney would be willing to produce a R-rated X-Men movie or lean heavily on the LGBTQ-themes of the movies. so respected yet mutants are hated. Furthermore, Disney has expressed interest in rebooting the films and recasting rumors and the characters, which only potential scrapping of several film projects also lead to outrage among fans who are unwilling have become attached to see the X-Men characters like Logan, Professor X, or Magneto getting recast.and films.
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* The classic rivalry is Creator/JulieAndrews vs. Creator/AudreyHepburn for who is the best [[Theatre/MyFairLady Eliza Doolittle]].
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** And also rolling dice for stats vs. point buy. Point buy fans argue for better balance between players (either one player rolls well and everyone else is OvershadowedByAwesome or one player rolls worse and CantCatchUp) and more creative freedom. Fans of rolling cite the "ritual" novelty of rolling for stats and suggest that point buy lends itself to a degree of {{Munchkin}}ism and players creating "builds" rather than organic-feeling characters.
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** Even between caster classes: Wizards[[note]][[BadassBookworm gains magic through hard work and learning]][[/note]] vs. Sorcerers[[note]]gains magic power through being inherent gifted, [[HalfHumanHybrid possibly through an inhuman bloodline]][[/note]]. Fans of Sorcerers prefer the themes of inherent magic power and the CHA spellcasting that lets Sorcerers double as TheFace; fans of Wizards prefer the concept of an ordinary muggle gaining power through hard work and the sheer spellcasting versatility from a wider selection of spells. 5th Edition makes things worse by tearing Metamagic out of the Wizards' hands and making it a Sorcerer exclusive, and also introduces Warlocks: casters who gain power through a DealWithTheDevil and use a more limited but simpler magic system with focus on cantrips and other abilities.
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* Website/ArchiveOfOurOwn vs Website/FanfictionDotNet. The former site was created specifically with the idea of hosting fanfics that the latter would have forbidden, which ranges from parodies to very explicit sex and gore. The fans of the former site criticizes the latter one for its stuck up policies, while the fans of the latter site disregard the former one as a den of perverts.
** By extension, Website/{{Tumblr}} fans, who shares many traits with AO3 has also started a rivalry with Fanfction Dot Net.

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* The Nissan Leaf Vs the Chevrolet Volt, being they are currently the two main choices for an electric car, the two cars that ranked the highest in safty for 2011, and that the Volt won Motortrend American car of the year while the Leaf won European car of the year, both in 2011.

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* The Nissan Leaf Vs vs. the Chevrolet Volt, being that they are currently the two main choices for an electric car, the two cars that ranked the highest in safty safety for 2011, and that the Volt won Motortrend Motor Trend American car Car of the year Year while the Leaf won European car of the year, both in 2011.



* Holden vs Ford in Australia - both companies have a long history in the country, and there is also spillover from their rivalry on the racing circuit.
* Harley-Davidson Vs Indian Motorcycles. Vicious when both companies where still around, still exists to some degree amoung classic motorcycle collectors.

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** It's worth noting that the Chevrolet '''B'''olt is a pure battery-powered EV like the Leaf or every Tesla model, while the '''V'''olt is a plug-in hybrid with a gasoline engine, more akin to a Civic Hybrid or a Prius.
** Tesla in general vs. everybody else. They're credited with making the pure battery electric car not just a CoolCar (which the Leaf, Bolt, Volt and Prius are [[SnarkBait decidedly not]]), but something that will out-accelerate most gas-powered ''supercars'' from 0 to 60, on top of being more technologically sophisticated and having far more frequently updated software for the in-car systems than their rivals. However, their emphasis on form over function in some design aspects and their fanbase have drawn them some very unflattering comparisons to Apple, on top of certain car owners insisting that only real cars run on fossil fuels. Software bugs and insecurity concerns have also earned Tesla more than a few detractors.
* Holden vs Ford in Australia - both companies have a long history in the country, and there is also spillover from their rivalry on the racing circuit.
circuit. The Ford Falcon vs. Holden Commodore rivalry in particular parallels the Ford Mustang vs. Chevrolet Camaro rivalry in the US.\\
Too bad the Australian government killed off their domestic auto industry entirely..
* Harley-Davidson Vs Indian Motorcycles. Vicious when both companies where still around, still exists to some degree amoung among classic motorcycle collectors.



* Chevrolet vs. Ford is probably the great granddaddy of automotive rivalries in the US, especially for pickups. Foreign vs. domestic used to start fistfights in the 70s and 80s, but that feud has mellowed a bit over time. A ''bit''. "Foreign" cars are still banned from the parking lot of the headquarters of the United Auto Workers union in Detroit, though what's "foreign" and what's "domestic" has blurred quite a bit in more recent times.
** In the southern states of the USA, pickups might as well be a way of life, and Ford vs Chevy vs Dodge rivalries are intense. Each has extensive aftermarket parts catalogs, devoted fans, rabid detractors, and enough fandumb to fill the flatbed of every truck in Texas. Hoping to capitalize on the sales of pickups in the southern states, Toyota built a plant to build its line in San Antonio, Texas. Toyota hoped to make their trucks seem more "genuinely southern" to consumers. Despite good reviews from automotive magazines and critics, the hoped-for cultural shift to accept the Tundra as a "real good ol' boy pickup" hasn't really happened as of 2015, especially after the F-150, Ram, and Silverado all underwent significant quality improvement.
* Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution vs. Subaru Impreza WRX STI, obviously. They're high performance rally cars built for [[UsefulNotes/WorldRallyChampionship WRC]], and having huge fanbases for each side. They're also the ones captured by the tuner markets, and were brought over by their respective makers to the global attention. However, the rivalry ended in 2014 when [[CreatorKiller/AutomoBiles Mitsubishi Motors announced the discontinuation of Lancer Evolution line]] [[AcclaimedFlop due to it being a commercial failure]], [[DivergentCharacterEvolution leaving Subaru alone to develop their own WRX STI line]].

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* Chevrolet vs. Ford is probably the great granddaddy of automotive rivalries in the US, especially for pickups. Foreign vs. domestic used to start fistfights in the 70s and 80s, but that feud has mellowed a bit over time. A ''bit''. \\
"Foreign" cars are still banned from the parking lot of the headquarters of the United Auto Workers union in Detroit, though what's "foreign" and what's "domestic" has blurred quite a bit in more recent times.
times, particularly with General Motors' penchant for [[MarketBasedTitle rebranding an import with a domestic marque]] - one of the better-known examples being the Pontiac G8/Chevrolet SS actually being an Australian-made Holden Commodore.
** Nothing highlights this rivalry more than the Ford Mustang vs. the Chevrolet Camaro, the latter of which was introduced by General Motors as "a small, vicious animal that eats Mustangs", squarely intended as their competitor in the "pony car" market segment that Ford just created.
** In the southern states of the USA, pickups might as well be a way of life, and Ford vs Chevy vs Dodge rivalries are intense. Each has extensive aftermarket parts catalogs, devoted fans, rabid detractors, and enough fandumb to fill the flatbed of every truck in Texas. \\
Hoping to capitalize on the sales of pickups in the southern states, Toyota built a plant to build its line in San Antonio, Texas. Toyota hoped to make their trucks seem more "genuinely southern" to consumers. Despite good reviews from automotive magazines and critics, the hoped-for cultural shift to accept the Tundra as a "real good ol' boy pickup" hasn't really happened as of 2015, especially after the F-150, Ram, and Silverado all underwent significant quality improvement.
improvement.\\
But for what it's worth, Toyota's TonkaTough reputation for their pickups has not gone unnoticed in the South; the pre-Tacoma "Pickup" ([[MarketBasedTitle the Hilux nameplate was never used in the US]]) of the '80s and early '90s is in consistent demand on the used market, for those who favor compact pickup trucks over full-size models.
* Pontiac Fiero GT vs. Toyota [=MR2=]. This plays a bit into the American "domestic vs. import" debate, this time over who provided the better mid-engine, two-seat, rear-wheel-drive sporty coupe with a fuel-efficient engine and the most '80s styling one can muster.\\
The Fiero was introduced in 1984 as an economy car, effectively {{Nerf}}ed from its original intent as a high-performance car that would have compromised the Chevrolet Corvette being reintroduced that year, and the Corvette is effectively GM's SacredCow. It wasn't given the intended V6 until the next year on the Fiero GT variant, and the original 1984 models had some faulty engine components used that led to [[EveryCarIsAPinto spontaneous combustion]] that tarnished its reputation despite being fixed in later model years. It also didn't have the intended performance suspension until 1988 - the final year of production, as GM killed the Fiero right as they finally got it right.\\
The [=MR2=], on the other hand, saw much more success over the years with expected Toyota reliability, well-tuned suspension and handling, and actually getting two more generations into the '90s onward. The early [=AW11=] generation even shares the 4A-GE engine with the famed [[{{Manga/InitialD}} AE86]], with an optional supercharger on some models, and the later [=SW20=] generation offered even more power and turbocharger options, [[DifficultButAwesome with additional tendency for snap oversteer that only a skilled driver would correct.]]
* Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution vs. Subaru Impreza WRX STI, obviously. They're high performance rally cars built for the [[UsefulNotes/WorldRallyChampionship WRC]], and having huge fanbases for each side. They're also the ones captured by the tuner markets, and were brought over by their respective makers to the global attention. However, the rivalry ended in 2014 when [[CreatorKiller/AutomoBiles Mitsubishi Motors announced the discontinuation of Lancer Evolution line]] [[AcclaimedFlop due to it being a commercial failure]], [[DivergentCharacterEvolution leaving Subaru alone to develop their own WRX STI line]].



* Another legendary fandom rivalry: UsefulNotes/{{Mac}} vs. [[UsefulNotes/MicrosoftWindows Windows]]. Embodied and parodied in Apple's "I'm a Mac and I'm a PC" commercials. This also leads to a false conception of computer history of being mainly composed of Apple and Microsoft, and idolizing their [=CEOs=].

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* Another legendary fandom rivalry: UsefulNotes/{{Mac}} vs. [[UsefulNotes/MicrosoftWindows Windows]]. Embodied and parodied in Apple's "I'm a Mac and I'm a PC" commercials. This also leads to a false conception of computer history of being mainly composed of Apple and Microsoft, Microsoft (much to the consternation of Commodore, Atari and Acorn fans), and idolizing their [=CEOs=].



** Worth noting is that PC fans tend to see the additional complexity as an ''advantage'', as the all-in-one, tightly integrated designs Apple has pushed for the last decade don't lend themselves well to upgrading or replacing faulty components.\\
Many professional workstation users have derided the 2013 Mac Pro as an "overpriced trash can" that can't even support aftermarket graphics cards internally compared to the classic "cheese grater" Mac Pro/Power Mac G5 case design, and due to its age and unyielding price tag, have jumped ship to PC workstations. Apple even had to apologize to their creative professional userbase for the lack of Mac Pro updates and released the [=iMac=] Pro as a stopgap measure, though the all-in-one design with [[CrackIsCheaper a $5,000 base price tag]] and no NVIDIA graphics options still isn't winning over the pro market.\\
Then you have the [[WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation "Glorious PC Gaming Master Race"]] types who hate Macs for similar reasons, being overpriced, underpowered machines that a custom PC build would gleefully turn into a CurbStompBattle in performance terms, not to mention that [=macOS=] gets a mere fraction of the game releases that Windows does despite Valve's highly promoted port of Steam and several of their own games to the Mac. It's also worth noting that Oculus dropped Mac support for the UsefulNotes/OculusRift between the [=DK2=] and first-generation consumer model ''because all of Apple's systems had [=GPUs=] that were too weak, and until Thunderbolt 3.0, no viable means to upgrade.''



** It's not just bad enough that the Linux fanbase is in rival with the Mac and Windows ones, but is actually divided on several grounds itself. Debian vs Red Hat vs Slackware (and by extension, DEB package management vs. RPM package Management vs. TGZ package management), KDE (which within consists of [=KDE4 vs KDE3/Trinity=]) vs Gnome (which within consisted of [=Gnome2/Mate/Cinnamon/XFCE=] vs Gnome3) versus every other desktop environments out there, vi vs emacs vs nano, Copyleft licenses such as GPL vs permissive licenses[[note]]e.g. Apache, PHP, MIT and BSD licenses[[/note]], initscripts (BSD vs [=SystemV=] vs [=SystemD=]), etc...

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** It's not just bad enough that the Linux fanbase is in rival with the Mac and Windows ones, but is actually divided on several grounds itself. Debian vs Red Hat vs Slackware (and by extension, DEB package management vs. RPM package Management vs. TGZ package management), KDE (which within consists of [=KDE4 vs KDE3/Trinity=]) vs Gnome vs. GNOME (which within consisted of [=Gnome2/Mate/Cinnamon/XFCE=] vs Gnome3) versus every other desktop environments environment out there, there (and even mouse-based GUI vs. keyboard-driven GUI like Ratpoison vs. pure CLI), vi vs emacs vs nano, Copyleft licenses such as GPL vs permissive licenses[[note]]e.g. Apache, PHP, MIT and BSD licenses[[/note]], initscripts (BSD vs [=SystemV=] vs [=SystemD=]), etc...



*** Even within Mozilla, there's a large split between those who want individual programs doing specific things (ie. Firefox+Thunderbird+KompoZer) vs. those who want everything in a suite (read: Seamonkey). Heck, even Firefox has a split fanbase and has spawned several forks!
* It isn't just software. There's Intel vs. AMD for x86 [=CPUs=] and AMD vs. Nvidia for graphics cards with the big ones, and more than likely much smaller feuds between vendors. And then there's Hard drive rivalry, which is still pretty a big one, even with the only three groups remaining (Western Digital[[note]]who bought over Hitachi, who bought their hard disk business from IBM. Did we mention that Hitachi is the black sheep of the hard drive world except to it's small handful of fans?[[/note]]. vs Seagate[[note]]who previously bought out Conner and Maxtor, the latter who bought out Quantum, then bought over Samsung after the latter split from the Toshiba-Samsung partnership[[/note]], and Toshiba Data Devices[[note]]who previously had a partnership with Samsung, only to split later when Samsung sold their storage division to Seagate[[/note]]), with LiesDamnedLiesAndStatistics employed throughout. And the fans of each are still rabidly vocal. God help you if you're one of those who believed that the three brands are equally good- the fandom won't have it the other way and will barbecue you alive if you don't pick sides. The rivalry with power supplies, memory, and motherboards to an extent have died off. It's usually "just pick something from these companies".
* Don't forget the IBM [=PowerPC=] vs Intel Pentium feud... though this one pattered out a bit out once Apple switched from [=PowerPC=] to Intel chips in 2005, but not before causing several small wars in the process, and causing a split in the Mac fandom itself. Even today there are still Mac enthusiasts arguing over whether Apple should have stuck with Power-based Macs or if the move to Intel was a good choice.
* And now there is a increasing fandom fight between ARM technology vs x86 technology! Yeah, that's now because initially Intel (x86 architecture) and now AMD are targeting the same market ARM (nVIDIA, Samsung, Qualcomm, etc) is going: tablets and smartphones. And despite the same performance both architecture has, some ARM fans says that ARM is better solution since it cost less than the x86 solution. Some proponents of ARM are also playing the "ARM is RISC but x86 is CISC, and RISC is faster!" card, the same card played during the PowerPC Mac vs x86 PC era. On the other side x86 fans says that they have the help of Microsoft Windows and with that x86 has more uses than the ARM technology.

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*** Even within Mozilla, there's a large split between those who want individual programs doing specific things (ie. Firefox+Thunderbird+KompoZer) Firefox+Thunderbird+[=KompoZer=]) vs. those who want everything in a suite like the original Mozilla client (read: Seamonkey). Heck, even Firefox has a split fanbase and has spawned several forks!
* It isn't just software. There's Intel vs. AMD for x86 [=CPUs=] and AMD vs. Nvidia for graphics cards [=GPUs=] with the big ones, and more than likely much smaller feuds between vendors. And then there's Hard drive rivalry, which is still pretty a big one, even with the only three groups remaining (Western Digital[[note]]who bought over Hitachi, who bought their hard disk business from IBM. Did we mention that Hitachi is the black sheep of the hard drive world except to it's small handful of fans?[[/note]]. vs Seagate[[note]]who previously bought out Conner and Maxtor, the latter who bought out Quantum, then bought over Samsung after the latter split from the Toshiba-Samsung partnership[[/note]], and Toshiba Data Devices[[note]]who previously had a partnership with Samsung, only to split later when Samsung sold their storage division to Seagate[[/note]]), with LiesDamnedLiesAndStatistics employed throughout. And the fans of each are still rabidly vocal. God help you if you're one of those who believed that the three brands are equally good- the fandom won't have it the other way and will barbecue you alive if you don't pick sides. The rivalry with power supplies, memory, and motherboards to an extent have died off. It's usually "just pick something from these companies".
* Don't forget the IBM [=PowerPC=] vs Intel Pentium feud... though feud! Though this one pattered out a bit out once Apple switched from [=PowerPC=] to Intel chips in 2005, but not before causing several small wars in the process, process and causing a split in the Mac fandom itself. Even today today, there are still Mac enthusiasts arguing over whether Apple should have stuck with Power-based POWER-based Macs or if the move to Intel was a good choice.
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* The Amiga community parallels this schism with whether the basis on [=PowerPC=] for "next-generation" Amiga platforms, specifically [=AmigaOS=] 4, was a good move, as the hardware required is rare, [[CrackIsCheaper increasingly expensive]], and older [=PowerPC=] Macs are generally ''not'' compatible, eliminating a much more affordable source of hardware for the new OS.\\
There's also the greater debate between [=AmigaOS=] 4, [=MorphOS=] and AROS being valid successors to the Classic Amiga platform or not; [=MorphOS=] actually does run on many G3 through G5 Power Macs, and AROS even runs on IBM-compatible x86 [=PCs=], making them far more accessible. However, some would say that the lack of the Amiga's signature custom chipset makes any of these successor platforms not a true Amiga, [[WhatCouldHaveBeen never mind that the planned Amiga "Hombre" project was a clean break with an A1200 on a chip solely for backwards compatibility.]]\\
Finally, there's the new Apollo Vampire FPGA accelerator line to further divide the already fragmented Amiga fanbase, which instead opts for binary compatibility with classic Amiga software with an in-house-designed 68080 core that leaves the old 68060 accelerators in the dust, [=ReTargetable Graphics=] with HDMI output, and attempts to recreate an enhanced version of the AGA chipset within the FPGA, bringing AGA compatibility to [=OCS/ECS=] systems and advantages such as Chip RAM amounts greater than 2 MB. Some prefer this approach to advancing the Amiga, as it still relies on the classic Amiga hardware (though standalone Vampire V4 boards are in the works), while others say it's missing the point of using a vintage computer in the first place.
* And now now, there is a increasing fandom fight between ARM technology vs and x86 technology! CPU architectures! Yeah, that's now because initially Intel (x86 architecture) and now AMD are targeting the same market ARM (nVIDIA, Samsung, Qualcomm, etc) is going: going for: tablets and smartphones. And despite the same performance both architecture has, architectures performing similarly, some ARM fans says that ARM is a better solution since it cost costs less than x86 and is far more easily licensed out than x86, which only Intel and AMD can legally utilize, and which Intel considers a competitive advantage for being the x86 solution. basis of the [[UsefulNotes/IBMPersonalComputer Wintel platform]] and the decades of software compatibility that brings.\\
Some proponents of ARM are also playing the "ARM is RISC but x86 is CISC, and RISC is faster!" card, the same card played during the PowerPC [=PowerPC=] Mac vs x86 PC era. era.\\
On the other side side, x86 fans says say that they have the help of Microsoft Windows Windows, and with that that, x86 has more uses than ARM, on top of the ARM technology.CISC vs. RISC distinction being totally irrelevant since the Pentium Pro, which uses an internally RISC architecture with an x86 instruction decoder for backwards compatibility. Then there's the matter of how the classic "Can it run ''VideoGame/{{Crysis}}''?" question can only be answered with an x86 PC...



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*** Even within Android users, it's usually Google [=Nexus/Pixel=] vs. Samsung and everyone else.\\
Google fans point out that they get updates well before everyone else, they have no bloatware and their phones don't lag, ''especially'' compared to Samsung. In general, it's like having an [=iPhone=] without Apple's restrictiveness. Their bootloaders are even unlockable, so long as you avoid buying from Verizon.\\
Samsung fans point out that Google takes years to implement features Samsung has had years earlier, and often done worse (multi-windowing being one of the bigger examples), a lot of the alleged "bloatware" can be easily disabled and/or uninstalled, that Google's own apps can also be bloatware (some folks in the custom ROM community even opt for [=microG=] instead of Google Play Services for this reason), they still haven't removed the headphone jack, [=microSD=] slot, or added an ugly [=iPhone X=]-style screen notch, and in general, they want the Swiss Army knife of smartphones, ''not'' the [=iPhone=] of Android. This goes double for flagship Galaxy Note owners, as opposed to the more mainstream Galaxy S line.
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* ''Film/StarWarsTheLastJedi'' has one with both ''Film/WonderWoman'' and ''Film/BlackPanther''. Although the films are critical and commercial hits, while also having non-{{White Male Lead}}s, the two superhero movies are better received among audiences than ''The Last Jedi'' and didn't experience the same amount vitriolic backlash. This in turn has led to the fan bases arguing about which film is better at representing minorities while also providing escapist entertainment.

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* ''Film/StarWarsTheLastJedi'' has one with both ''Film/WonderWoman'' and ''Film/BlackPanther''.''Film/{{Black Panther|2018}}''. Although the films are critical and commercial hits, while also having non-{{White Male Lead}}s, the two superhero movies are better received among audiences than ''The Last Jedi'' and didn't experience the same amount vitriolic backlash. This in turn has led to the fan bases arguing about which film is better at representing minorities while also providing escapist entertainment.
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** Even within the MCU, fans of different movies and characters fight with each other over their merits. Notably, some Captain America and Spider-Man fans resent Iron Man for his WolverinePublicity and accused the character of [[SpotlightStealingSquad overshadowing other superheroes]] since he became major supporting character in both ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' and ''Film/SpiderManHomecoming''. Black Widow fans resent how Captain Marvel will be getting her own solo movie first even though Widow had been in the MCU longer. A one-sided rivalry between Black Panther and Spider-Man fans popped up in 2017 with some Black Panther fans expressing outrage that their movie was delayed from November 2017 to February 2018 make room for ''Film/SpiderManHomecoming'''s release in July 2017. However, since ''Film/BlackPanther'' was released in [[MeaningfulReleaseDate Black History Month]] and has surpassed ''Homecoming'' financially, ''Black Panther'' fans have (mostly) dropped their gripes and animosity. Even now, the rivalry is more of civil debate about whether Toomes from ''Homecoming'' or Killmonger from ''Black Panther'' is the better villain.

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** Even within the MCU, fans of different movies and characters fight with each other over their merits. Notably, some Captain America and Spider-Man fans resent Iron Man for his WolverinePublicity and accused the character of [[SpotlightStealingSquad overshadowing other superheroes]] since he became major supporting character in both ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' and ''Film/SpiderManHomecoming''. Black Widow fans resent how Captain Marvel will be getting her own solo movie first even though Widow had been in the MCU longer. A one-sided rivalry between Black Panther and Spider-Man fans popped up in 2017 with some Black Panther fans expressing outrage that their movie was delayed from November 2017 to February 2018 make room for ''Film/SpiderManHomecoming'''s release in July 2017. However, since ''Film/BlackPanther'' ''Film/{{Black Panther|2018}}'' was released in [[MeaningfulReleaseDate Black History Month]] and has surpassed ''Homecoming'' financially, ''Black Panther'' fans have (mostly) dropped their gripes and animosity. Even now, the rivalry is more of civil debate about whether Toomes from ''Homecoming'' or Killmonger from ''Black Panther'' is the better villain.
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* Wiki/TVTropes vs. Wiki/{{Wikipedia}}

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* Wiki/TVTropes vs. Wiki/{{Wikipedia}}Wiki/{{Wikipedia}}, although there's [[DrPediaAndMrTrope clearly an overlap in users]].

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