Yeah, that's not an example.
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Lord of the Blue Star
I don't think this really applies:
Moral Dissonance: Doing domestic things (baking, sewing, cleaning, pretty much everything homemakers do for their families on a regular basis) means you don't have a life. However, these are wonderful hobbies and careers when it's men doing them.
No one was saying Rapunzel was wrong to have those be part of her life, it is the fact they were her life. She was a slave to Gothel and had no other choice but to do them. If she choose to do these domestic actions without the fact she was effectively a prisoner, then there might be something here. But she didn't have a choice and she really didn't have a life because she was a prisoner.
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In addition, did the film ever imply that those are wonderful things when it's men doing them?
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
That kind of entry reminds me of certain examples that popped up in the Avatar: The Legend of Korra articles back then. I am inclined to file them under Everyone Is Jesus in Purgatory.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
The crossover trope in YMMV could just be a standard Disney Easter Egg. In The Hunchback Of Notre Dame there's a crowd scene where you can see Belle from Beauty And The Beast walking through the crowd with her nose in a book. They've putting little gags like that in the films for years.
"* Teens Are Short: Despite being 18, Rapunzel is shorter than most adults, including her real parents."
So am I. Yes, even than my parents. My sister is even shorter. Is this edit even justified? Rapunzel happens to be SHORT, and that's OK!
If there had been MORE teens that were also short in the movie, then the trope is fine where it is, but I think the reason put in is pretty weak.
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To go along with this, Rapunzel is a girl and would reasonable be short since women are on average almost 6" shorter than men. Not to mention that she was locked in a tower her whole life. While she may not have been malnourished, it's possible the environment and lifestyle could have kept her a little smaller.
Does anyone know what happened to the Analysis entry? The *very* long one about the child abuse angle of this movie?
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It might have been moved to the fridge brilliance entry.
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Nobody asks these question anymore. They're really outdated. So did a clean up.
A Forbidden Rendezvous
On the "Trivia" page it mentions that Zachary Levi wanted to act in Kingdom Hearts. Does anyone have a source for that...?
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Some of the things in the Fridge page under Fridge Horror don't really seem horrific (One's about Rapunzal being very strong, one's about the movie combining elements from other Disney Princess movies, one's about Gothel's fear to die being like most people's fear of death, there might be more), they seem more like Fridge Brilliance. Shall I move them or am I just missing the horrific element?
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Some things might seem more horrific depending on how you look at it, such as how all that hauling might get tiresome for Rapunzel. Overall though, if the horror isn't easily present, go ahead and move it to fridge brilliance. After all, if there's grumbling and a move back, you can always see their reasoning in the Justifying Edit they give to move it back due to laziness to take it to the forum.
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SPOILERIFFIC.
There was a citation of Hair Color Spoiler that made no sense, so I removed it.
From the description, this must have been intended as some kind of inversion: instead of a person's hair color revealing their parentage to the audience prematurely, Rapunzel's parentage reveals her natural hair color to the audience prematurely.
The problem is that she shows Flynn the lock of hair that was cut when she was an infant, which turned permanently brown. Thus, neither the audience nor any of the characters present should have been surprised by her hair turning brown when he cuts it, so it's not a spoiler. Hence, no trope.
I also considered the possibility that it was simply a bizarrely worded Straight example, but that falls apart too. Surely Flynn can't be expected to jump from "random stranger's hair turns brown when it's cut" to "stranger is part of the royal family." I mean really. Brown hair.
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I know. The biggest problem with this use of trope is that it's no spoiler for the audience who knows their relationship already from the first 5 minutes of the movie, and many others in the movie if I recall are also brunettes. Good call.
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Hm. I put the 'Does this remind you of anything' about childhood abuse. Now it's been observed it's not really subtextual enough for that. But that said, it's still worthy of note, I feel. Can anyone figure out what trope that's really discussing?
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Does This Remind You of Anything? above all is a trope mostly pertaining to a comedic moment that can be misinterpreted as something else. For something on it being a metaphor for something, I would probably say this is more a case of What Do You Mean, It's Not Didactic? or Faux Symbolism. I don't know. Someone else can give their input on this as well.
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This is more of a technical question before adding anything. For our No Flow in CGI, that covers both hair and looser clothes, and in Tangled, there's definitely a certain flow/fold in rapunzel's skirt. Is this covered in the Costume Porn entry, or should it be mentioned, or is the fact that we have an article related to tangled in the trope specific page enough not to merit mentioning this? I feel this should be addressed before I add the below bullet point to the page entry.
- And as for their work with clothing, they averted
that problem to a degree as well.
- And as for their work with clothing, they averted
Why is there so much outrage among fans concerning the theft/destruction of the plant? Like it or not there was no way for the royals to know that A) anyone was using it or B) that it could be used non-destructively.
You can argue that Gothel was a victim, but the implication that the King and Queen were victimizers is a hollow one.
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- What Happened to the Mouse?: Rapunzel is shown to be an incredibly talented artist in the beginning, with her "I Want" Song making no less than four references to her love of painting. This is never brought up again.
I disagree with this. The paintings were how she finally recalled that she was the missing princess, and she was shown making a giant chalk drawing for the people of Corona.
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Yeah. Even if it wasn't brought up again it doesn't seem like the kind of thing that would need to be.
This thread has been trolled by someone called 'Tear Drop'. Is there anyway to restore it?
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Unfortunately not.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
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Commented out this entry for now:
Did not think this through: After Gothel stabs Flynn, Rapunzel begs to heal him with her magic hair. Gothel accepts Rapunzel’s plea, chains Flynn to prevent him from following her and Rapunzel, and leaves Rapunzel to heal him. One matter Gothel doesn’t consider, though, is the risk of Flynn cutting off Rapunzel’s hair. She couldn’t even assume whether Flynn may have a knife on him.
First, there's the bad formatting issues with it: not even starting with a bullet point, and not even wikiwording the trope name.
But more to the point of this discussion, is this trope even applicable? Gothel at that moment was panicking because she was fearing that the daughter that she needed in order to live on, was rebelling against/leaving her. Everything happening between Rapunzel and Gothel in Rapunzel's tower from the moment Rapunzel realizes her heritage and confronts Gothel about it, on, is very hectic. It's explainable for Gothel to not specifically remember a mirror was smashed moments before, by the time Flynn arrives. Or to think that Flynn specifically would be wielding a knife/sword (in the scenes shared by Gothel and Flynn beforehand, he wasn't wielding any such cutting device). Or even to think of the possibility of anyone cutting Rapunzel's hair and the consequences (last time Gothel experienced what happens when you cut Rapunzel's hair, was when she was stealing Rapunzel as a baby, 18 years ago—it's very explainable that is not on top of her mind right now.)
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