Discussion VideoGame / MaxPayne

I agree on that. I also think that it's pretty diametrically opposed to Max's characterisation up to that point (Like most of 3). Even when chasing down the woman who murdered his family, best friend and hundreds of innocent people, Max responded only with Tranquil Fury. Suddenly organ trafficking crosses his rage threshold and makes him bawl like a petulant teenager.

We don't really know. His previous showing was at the strip club Max got formally introduced to Da Silva at.

I'll grant you that the series has a history of Max needing outsiders to provide him with leads, people like Mona or Woden, but those were usually in the search of The Circle, the monolithic conspiracy behind America. That's beyond the scope of most people to investigate without an insider. The UFE on the other hand are the blatently corrupt police force with publically known ties to the mysteriously not-dead Branco brother, who spend every other night mass-kidnapping hundreds of people by marching them around in public. It's not the Byzantine Power Game.

Another thing that boiled my bollocks was the fact that Max simply can't work out why hundreds of people are going into a building and coming out dead. Max, come on, it's 2012. Black market organ harvesting has been a known crime since the seventies. And you know what else wouldn't help expose the conspiracy? Blowing up the building, thereby murdering shitloads of people and costing the city even more money it doesn't have, and destroying all of the evidence except for those pieces of paper you grabbed. It's not like the Cleaner storehouse in 2, where there was a huge library of evidence, because the place was destroyed due to enemy gunfire.

Dan Houser just doesn't know how to write Max. Or write.

Except the conspiracy turned out to be little more than a mob civil war struggling for power over NYC, and Max still needed someone to tell him this.

I could give you organ legging, since it gets obvious what it is when they're throwing medical bags into a furnace, but that is, of course, implying a third world country with little infrastructure and a known fondness of having abandoned buildings get infested with criminals, never mind the fact da Silva used him to destroy the place and drives you to take everyone involved out. Given who was in charge of it and the fact Branco still winds up in jail...

I'm pretty sure that The Inner Council was implicitly shown to be more than just a mafia. In the first game Max discovers that the Asguard Building is home to a massive library of evidence and past dealing belonging to the Circle which proves their hundreds of years of history stretching back to the Masonic cults. Then there's the fact that Lem spends most of the events around 2 assassinating Circle members loyal to Woden, most of whom are US Senators (You might remember the mission you do with Mona in the apartment complex, where you are too late to prevent on of their deaths). You could make a point that any number of supposed "real" conspiracies such as the Illuminati or the Free Masons are essentially globe spanning criminal empires writ-large, but the fact remains that the Inner Circle held sway over most of America, not just New York.

You might want to restructure that second paragraph though as I can't get my monkey brain around it.

I will say though that the fact that Victor ending up in the slam just seemed to me like his co-conspirators were locking him up so they could execute him out of sight.

On the subject though, I really hated the fact that Max didn't kill Victor, especially after he made such a meal out of dealing with Becker. As far as he knew, Victor was going to "walk" and start fucking with people again, making the whole of Max Payne 3 feel even more like a "Shaggy Dog" Story. The main reason they did have Victor die in prison was to avert that, but really, what would one more fatality have meant on Max's massive death toll? The whole experience would have paid off a lot more if Max had ended up in prison at the end of the game, and properly subverted the Mighty Whitey genre story the game was supposed to be subverting.

I think it still counts, but perhaps the wording could be slightly edited. While the majority of the guns ARE indeed correct, there are several (the Micro-Uzi getting called the "Micro SMG" and the strange composite G36/FX-05 assault rifle) that are not.

Well for one you're probably think of Vinnie, nowhere near the big bad. Max left him to die in front of the building. Also Max goes after several villians in the first game with the full intend to kill, which he does. He had always been a anti-hero type killer.

He's talking about the main villain of Max Payne 3