It's part of Burch's writing style. See the "Hey ladies" scene in Tales from the Borderlands, Fake Geek Guy or Janey Springs. You are absolutely right though, he does make sure to beat you over the head with the knowledge.
Powerofanime1
It's not entirely clear how much of Jack's eviltude is self made, and how much of it is a result of Lilith's actions in the pre-sequal. What are your ideas on the matter?
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Specifically, is there any evidence that Jack actually changed at some point, or did Lilith just expose him instead of Creating Her Own Villain?
I was, am and always will be obsessed with story-telling.
Would Handsome Jack qualify as a magnificent bastard?
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Write the example here and then ask that question since I have no idea who that is...
Don't make me destroy you. @ Castle Series
Magnificent in his own world, Bastard in reality. I think it's a matter of opinion but he's definitely right on the verge.
I was, am and always will be obsessed with story-telling.
Can't believe nobody noticed the Stealth Pun before me. In Assault on Dragon Keep, the titular keep is a Keep On The Borderlands.
Re: cut: Crap, I can't believe I accidentally put this on! Take this off the cut list; I meant the listing for something else...
Edited by 98.145.81.191 I now go by Graf von Tirol.
Would it be better for the DLC list to be sorted into a list for the campaign DLC and another list for the extra characters, cosmetic items, etc.?
Bully in the Alley
Moved Game-Breaking Bug from the YMMV page to the main page—it's not a YMMV trope.
Edited by CleverPun "The only way to truly waste an idea is to shove it where it doesn't belong."
Bully in the Alley
Cut the following notes under Gameplay and Story Segregation for being inaccurate;
- Despite what Eridium can do for Lilith, it has no effect on Maya despite both being Sirens.
- Also considering the critical nature of Sirens to the plot you would think Maya would be more valuable alive to Handsome Jack, but no-one ever remarks on Maya being a Siren outside of Echo logs.
Added Hand Wave and All There in the Manual entries to address the plot points this covered
"The only way to truly waste an idea is to shove it where it doesn't belong."
Head Lopper
One of my edits was overwritten by another edit after I accidentally let the lock run out, and it was a lot more substantial than the material in the new edit that bumped it off. Just let it go or what?
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Maybe. Size of edits does not mean better. If the smaller edit gets the job done that would usually be considered good as is.
Who watches the watchmen?
WARNING! Spoilers below! Fair warning.
Is it just me or is Borderlands 2 just a few voice tone changes away from being a horror game? The bit that first made this occur to me is the quest where Tiny Tina throws a tea party with the psycho. During the quest this psychotic 13 year old slowly murders a serial killer while they discuss the way she was forced to watch her parents murdered by said killer.
It was at this point that I was no longer sure whether I was supposed to be laughing or be terrified. This isn't the only bit I've noticed that seems more dark than comedy. Another example: During Tannis' echo recording she calmly describes being tortured by Hyperion before beginning to weep at the destruction of a 'ceiling chair', which is still creepy even if it really is some sort of furniture and not her deluded version of a person.
Anyways, was wondering if anybody else got the impression that the writers were intentionally hiding a horror story under the seemingly comic face.
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They probably wanted to show that Pandora is filled with more than just Comedic Sociopathy, and is actually a very messed up place. They also made sure that most of these Fridge Horror stories had a single common variable - Handsome Jack. He's the one that both tortured Tannis and practically demanded for the slag experimentaion that eventually killed Tiny Tina's parents.
I believe they wanted to make two things clear out of these stories: 1) Pandorans are messed up for a reason, and 2) Jack is nasty to the core, he isn't a Well-Intentioned Extremist so much as doing it For the Evulz.
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It's not really a new technique. It's simply making the horrific aspects of the setting more pronounced by directly contrasting them against the lighter elements, instead of, say, adding some comic relief to a blatant work of horror. I would argue that attempting to make Borderlands darker by toning down the comedy instead of adding small amounts of serious stuff next to it would just cause both to fizzle. Handsome Jack, for example, is hysterically funny by virtue of how he's an unrepentant, trolling douchcanoe no matter what he's doing; "I just bought a pony made of diamonds, you know, because I'm rich...Butt Stallion, Butt Stallion, c'mere girl!." 'What he's doing' also includes things like burning down a town and responding to a resident's attempts to defend himself by digging his eyes out and laughing while the guy's children watch him stumble around, blinded. The event itself is horrifying, but it's Jack's reaction that sells it better than a standard horror movie.
By the time you reach the last 3rd or so of the game, it has taken on a notably darker tone. Jack for example becomes more violent and manic and is a lot less jovial with insanity.
Who watches the watchmen?
Night Clerk of the Apacalypse.
Looking over the page it is need of format editing for bullet points and general edits. I will be placing any items that need more conxtext or I am unsure what to do with.
I have also noticed contradicting information in some of the examples. I will be bringing said examples here so we can get them clarified and put back on the page.
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So, it's explicitly stated in the quest "Hidden Journals" that Tannis has Asperger's Syndrome (at least, the flavor text to accepting the quest says so).
I figure since it's rare that a media character is specifically stated to have AS, should I put it here, or in her character sheet? Or maybe not at all because it doesn't seem to be a "reference"-able trope if that makes sense.
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Just put Ambiguous Disorder and Subverted Trope, Averted Trope, or something along those lines.
No matter what I say there is a 40% percent chance I'm not being serious, and if I sound like I'm not then I probably am.
So Axton's been confirmed bisexual for a while now. Don't get me wrong, that's all well and goos. Except for one question: In the article where Anthony Burch confirms this, he points out that Axton is SO bisexual, he has to make it so extremely clear as to make Axton bring it up during the Tiny Tina DLC. But, as a general question, why? Burch makes such a big deal about him writing his "minority" characters in a realistic way, but real LGBT people don't fucking shrivel up and die if they go more than five minutes without mentioning it. I certainly don't, at least, don't know about the kind of people Burch hangs out with. Do they think viewers will forget or something? Why is it that so many writers like him, even gay ones, never seem to have gay characters act more like gay people and less like Super Saiyan David Bowie?
That's not to say Axton does, so far as I know he's one of the least stereotypical gay characters in existence, but the point stands that Tropes Are Not Good is in full effect here.
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