Why does this article STILL claim there are no mountains in Brazil?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mountains_in_Brazil
Incinerate! ONE HUNDRED PERCENT!!
"Brazil had a stable time from 1994 to 2016".
Seriously? When 2006 to 2016 was one political corruption scandal after the other and WE STILL ARE witnessing the what seems to be the biggest political crisis in Brazilian history?
No, really. Who wrote this article?
Also, "bunda" is Portuguese for butt.
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The Coup made by that Temer bastard really needs to be included here. It was protested even on Cannes festival, fgs.
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It wasn't a Coup. It was an Impeachment process, and not the first one suffered by a president in Brazil. The populace of the country is fairly divided thus: -Some people agree the former president commited fiscal responsibility crimes (which as a matter of fact she did). That group is split between those who support the impeachment, those who think her oppositors are guilty of equally grave crimes and therefore the impeachment is useless (since that second group takes power), and those that just wish both sides could be punished accordingly. Those defending that the former president is innocent are mostly passionate partidary militants for the labour party. Since TV Tropes is supposed to try to be as neutral as possible, it would be ideal to refer to the event as "an impeachment that some people see as a Coup, depending on wheter they think there were grounds for such or not". Or something along those lines.
Dude, believe me, I live in Brazil. There's more and more information about being a massive coup orchestrated by a bastard named Michel Temer. It's not a question of "mostly passionate partidary militants for the labour party defending the former president"; in fact, there's A LOT of people who didn't vote for her and are against the supposed reasons for the "impeachment". NY Times, Guardian, BBC, Le Monde... all of them agreed that Brazil's coup was a massive coup against democracy too. I've been on the streets, the police is launching a massive attack against anyone who doesn't agree with the coup.
I don't know which country you live, but try to keep informed. There's millions of people who doesn't support this coup. Fortunately.
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Also, the supposed "fiscal responsibility crimes"? Brazil's public ministery doesn't believe she did it - and Temer has since decriminalised THE DAY AFTER the impeachment. Yes, it's a coup and it should be fought against.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP2IGTZOS4M
It's in portuguese, but I can translate to you if you want. It's one of the definitive proofs that a coup happened in Brazil.
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I... think you may want to look up what "proof" means.
Anyhoo, you're entitled to your opinion, but try not to let it influence our pages.
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It's not an opinion, it's a FACT. I know TV Tropes tries to be as neutral as possible, but that Brazil suffered a coup is clear as the day.
Here are some sources in english:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/01/world/americas/brazil-impeachment-coup.html
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/apr/21/dilma-rousseff-enemies-impeached-brazil
From your own sources:
"Was the impeachment of Dilma Rousseff as the president of Brazil on Wednesday a coup?
Technically, the answer is no... it simply does not meet that standard."
It's clearly not as cut-and-dry as you seem to be. And just because you have strong feelings about something doesn't mean it's black-and-white.
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"Technically", yes, but have you read the entire text?
Also: are you brazilian or live here?
It's only one sentence in about four links I've posted here. It's not a matter of opinion, it's a fact. We suffered a coup.
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sanders-condemns-efforts-to-remove-brazils-democratically-elected-president (that's Bernie Sanders talking, not me)
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Noam-Chomsky-Oliver-Stone-Sign-Letter-Against-Brazils-Coup-20160825-0027.html - Respectable names as Ken Loach, Brian Eno, Chomsky and Susan Sarandon against the coup.
I only ask for your respect. I live in Brazil and I know the hell I'm living in since the coup. I was called a whore and nearly beaten - BY COPS - in the streets for supporting the democracy.
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I'm not even saying you're wrong, but I'm saying it's not cut-and-dry as you're claiming. When the thesis of one of the links you're posting for the sake of proof is specifically saying that it's at most a gray issue, then taking a side would be, well, taking a side.
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For the record, I don't need translation: I am brazilian. I live here.
"I've been on the streets, the police is launching a massive attack against anyone who doesn't agree with the coup."
No, they're not. They are working on preventing vandalism during manifestations and occasionaly (often) getting out of hand and using uneeded violence against the protesters, exactly like they did when Dilma was the president and people protested against her. Because this is Brazil, and our police is incompetent.
I agree with Larkmarn, this is not as simple as some people would say. And people who claim such are the fanatics on either side.
Also, from your own sources: "An April poll by the firm Datafolha found that 61 percent of Brazilians supported holding impeachment proceedings against Ms. Rousseff, and that her approval rating was a scant 13 percent".
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"exactly like they did when Dilma was the president and people protested against her"
Okay... you don't live in Brazil.
Just wanted to note........jesus christ, did this article really try to argue Dumont invented flight? Guy was multiple years late
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... wow, yes it did.
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You know this is a lot more open to debate than it seems. I've read numerous articles defending both sides and can't decide on which side is right. There are even those that defend that another dude invented a flight machine before both Dumont and the Wright bros.
... and now it's back and blatantly saying that the Wright Brothers didn't fly.
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Okay, seriously now. Do we need to call Dumont an "upper-class twit"? Regardless of wheter he invented the plane or not, he was an intelligent man, and his importance to the history of aviation is real, wheter he was the first or not.
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... agreed, this has been swinging from one extreme to the other.
What should be there: Brazilians mostly see Dumont as the inventor, the rest of the world, less so. Any editorializing should be gone.
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Does the webcomic Nerf NOW!! count as a brazilian work: english language gaming webcomic made by a brazilian?
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I would argue yes. It was made by a Brazilian, in brazil.
Or atleast all evidence points to that. He could be a martian making these comics through magic in the year 1905 for all we know..
I'm thinking that this page needs a few major tweaks given the current economic situation resulting from the Petrobras scandal, two major sporting events in three years, and the Zika Virus outbreak.
"<em>Brazilians are fond to spread every misconception and false information about theirs own culture and language if the rule of funny applies. Take everything a Brazilian taught about the meaning of some obscure Portuguese word with a grain of salt.</em>"
This is the best part of the article. Unhappily, or maybe happily, it makes it a <a class='https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SelfDemonstratingArticle>Self-Demonstrating Article</a>
The main map doesn't have all capital cities, where are Cuiabá, Macapá, Palmas, Goiânia, Porto Velho, Atacaju etc.? If cities like Tubarão appear, I don't see any reason why not include the capitals of all the states.
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