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I'm unsure if Anachronism Stew applies to Soul Eater. The series seems to be set pretty surely in a modern setting, though it feels more like 20th century than 21th. The example stated in the page right now cites a medieval Japanese village in the enchanted sword arc, but the village was not medieval. People were wearing t-shirts and pants, and I'm pretty sure you could find a village that looks like it in 2013.
I wanted to go ahead and delete the entry but I am bringing it up first to make sure.
- Completely Missing The Point: The series is often praised for being a shonen manga, yet having a female protagonist. This barely matters most of the time, as Maka is actually sort of boyish. She is loud mouthed, quick to get angry, and tends to punch people in the face a lot. Her physical features are even sort of boyish (short hair, flat chest). Its even lampshaded in-universe in the Lust Chapter when Spartoi members are all genderswapped, and everyone comments on how Maka's appearance has barely changed."
Okay, seriously? Who put that there under Completely Missing The Point? Are you saying that because Maka is fairly boyish that this negates her being a female protagonist? Why? How come Maka's lack of, as she says, "boobs and an ass like whipped pudding," and boyish tendencies disqualify her from being a girl? This just screams Unfortunate Implications to me.
Never mind, I deleted it from the page. Examples of Completely Missing The Point are for in-universe only examples.
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It seems it's not that Maka acts boyish, per se, but she acts like the other meisters. Hot-tempered, arrogant, and haircuts that don't take too much maintenance. Weapons, more likely female, tend to be more artsy, patient, and emotionally conflicted. Not all of them, though.
Akane and Clay from Soul Eater Not show up in chapter 90 of Soul Eater, but under different names.
Is there a trope about that? Canon Immigrant doesn't really seem to fit. Canon Immigrant seems to be about characters made by a third-party showing up in the original work, but Soul Eater Not is made by the same mangaka. And I don't think you can have an Captain Ersatz or Expy of someone when they're from the same universe, can you? Born of Clay, maybe?
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They do have the same names, they're just the literal Japanese pronunciation of them- like how fans from across the Pacific call our favorite Highly-Visible Ninja "Barrakustarro" because they can't say "Blackstar" like we do. If you use a lot of imagination when you look at Akane and Clay's names in Soul Eater Proper, you can tell that they are in fact similar.
Does anyone else see the Black Room in Soul's mind as a reference to the Black Lodge from Twin Peaks? The floor pattern, the curtained walls, and Little Ogre seems kind of like The Man from Another Place. I think it should be added under Shout-Out.
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I'm 99.99% certain it was listed as such at some point.
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Why do we have characters like BJ, Old Lady, Hero, and deathscythe meisters in 'Other Meisters' section? I think they should be included under DWMA by any standards.
That leaves pretty much only Crona and Heming in that category. I suggest moving the DWMA characters to DWMA category, moving Crona and Heming to 'Other', and getting rid of the 'Other Meisters' category. How does that sound?
Out-of-Clothes Experience rules of the game.
It seems like the Living Weapons are naked when their focus is in the world where they're being held by the shafts, but clothed when their attention is on the world inside their heads.
As Soul is the only character with a piano inside his head he dresses up for a formal performance when using it, or when he drags Maka inside his head to play with his keys.
Does that handle about all of the cases, at least for the manga?
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That's a pretty definitive statement when we only have one data point. Basically, all weapons are naked, except Soul (before he gets his scar, and then a couple times much later for unexplained reasons), and Spirit when being wielded by his daughter. The mindspace is something different, and not really relevant to the example. Chrona was also clothed inside his/her head, remember, and s/he's not a weapon.
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Pulled:
- Pettanko: Maka.
Pettanko is not a trope. UsefulNotes.Pettanko is a fanspeak term definition only. The tropes are A-Cup Angst (girl is sensitive about her lack of size) or Petite Pride (girl is proud of her flat-chestedness). Anything else is not a trope. Please return this example to the page under the correct trope if (and only if) it fits one of those two tropes.
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Would Soul Eater count as an Urban Fantasy? It certainly seems like it; there's the weapons, the technology, the Lovecraft references, so can it be called one?
A sound soul dwells within a sound mind and a sound body
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Is anyone else not even the tiniest bit annoyed that They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot when they introduced the fact that Blair has a shrinking spell and never bring it up again?
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I'm honestly amazed no one's added an entry for Naughty Tentacles on Kid's prologue. Or does it not count seeing as it's really mummified bandages?
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I've always considered Naughty Tentacles any form of long, flexible appendage that happens to have a fondness for molesting human genitalia. In my opinion, The bandages count.
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Does Maka count as a Tsundere? She strikes me as a Type B, but it's debatable so I'm not adding it unless I get some confirmation or something...
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Who is the Dirty Coward entry referring too? There's no explanation.
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Asura? Although we have not seen him in action the way he has been described fits the bill, although I am not entirely sure that's who the entry was original referring too.
A friend is someone you trust to help you move. A best friend is someone you trust to hide the body.
Soooooo... should I add "That's how Shinigami-Sama describe Asura's behavior" or something like that? :
I think him being a dirty coward is why he became the Asura so maybe something like one of the traits that can lead one down the path of the Asura. Specifically the current one is described as such. That's how I would do it.
A friend is someone you trust to help you move. A best friend is someone you trust to hide the body.
I think him being a dirty coward is why he became the Asura so maybe something like one of the traits that can lead one down the path of the Asura. Specifically the current one is described as such. That's how I would do it.
A friend is someone you trust to help you move. A best friend is someone you trust to hide the body.
Isn't Asura his own name? References in the series are made to becoming "the Kishin", not "the Asura".
"In Death City, Nevada, Death himself, (or "Shinigami" in Japanese) has set up the Death Weapon Meister Academy, aka "DWMA" (also known in Japanese as Shinigami Weapon Meister Vocational School or "Shibusen") to train warriors called Meisters (or Technicians) along with Weapons who can take human form."
Aren't the Weapons technically humans who can take weapon form? While we don't know their exact origins, i.e. which form came first, they seem to be human when relaxed, and the heredity of weapon qualities even seems a bit wonky in the case of Tsubaki's family. The human form seems to be the foundation. They aren't even ageless/unaging or anything.
Which is better to use when referring to Crona? I prefer people use him or her as they like, but someone else edited some entries to use "him/her". Not as easy or quick. What do you think?
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In English the pronoun he pulls double duty with the masculine and the neutral gender use. So it should be he because we are unsure.
A friend is someone you trust to help you move. A best friend is someone you trust to hide the body.
Why not just him/her? It covers both bases and makes sure neither side is unhappy. Just trying to pick one or the other is going to lead to unnecessary problems.
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To me him/her is just unwieldy and a little annoying to read. Especially when him does the same thing but shorter.
A friend is someone you trust to help you move. A best friend is someone you trust to hide the body.
There is always the option of using the gender neutral pronouns' zhe' and 'hir'. While these are simpler and less clunky, I guess they're not as well known and may confuse some people.
You could consistently use Crona. Less unwieldy than him/her, but I guess it would still annoy some people. On the other hand, EVERY option will annoy some people. So my vote's for "Crona".
Ummm... Wouldn't it be time to give this page the Fetish Fuel page?
...Seriously, nobody agrees with me? I mean COME ON!!! The fricking Gender Bending! That alone should explain everything.
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Just the Gender Bender? There's...ugh, well, let's give it a go, shall we: Soul Eater
Would what happened to Maka in Chapter 75 count as Chickification?
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I'd say probably not. The reason she fights poorly is because of what she saw in Envy and the effect of Sloth, not just because she's female and Ohkubo wanted Soul to outperform her or whatever. Also, it's not permanent, just a classic case of Heroic BSoD
I believe it's Black*Star and Death the kid who are outperforming her in the current chapter. In any case, how do we know whether this is permanent or not?
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We won't know if it's permanent or not until we wait and see. Right now I think it's more of a rotating spotlight thing than Black Star and Kid outperforming Maka though. All things considered, Black Star's been sitting on the sidelines while Kid has literally been doing nothing for the past while.
So now that the character sheet has an entry for the spatoi where pretty much all the main characters are shouldn't Kim, Ox, Jackie, Kilik, Thunder, Fire and Harvar be put there to?
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The only reason they haven't is because no one's bothered yet...
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Why is there a High Octane Nightmare Fuel page for this show? Just Nightmare Fuel would suffice.
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Because a lot of it is presumably deliberate and thus high octane?
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Quick question; is Soul's full name "Soul E. Evans," or is "Eater" just a nickname he made for himself? Because I've heard it said both ways.
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No! Wait! The above is wrong! Canon says that Soul changed his name because he didn't want to be associated with his family. He is never ever referred to as 'Soul Eater Evans' at all, and the only times he's called Evans is during flashbacks and when the Little Demon is taunting him, hinting that no one at Shibusen knows his real name.
Shouldn't Medusa be Draco In Leather Pants? I only seen the anime up to episode 35 but she to me crossed the Moral Event Horizon with how she treats her own child but yet at least one other troper says she is Chaotic Good. Maybe Chaotic neutral but GOOD?
Maybe I can see how maybe it could be seen just as kicking the dog, but stll, the way Crona is treated by her is disgusting... I don't care if it was for some future cause whatever the cause was.
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"at least one other troper"? More like ONLY one troper. That particular troper is also rather famously insane about Medusa and has been known to wank about how she never actually "abused" Crona.
I don't think that anybody else in the fandom is nutty enough to share that interpretation of Medusa, so it's not enough to earn her a Draco in Leather Pants. It's just one crazy person that keeps insisting that she's Chaotic Good.
Ah ok. I had no idea. I haven't followed the page that closely just annoyed me how anyone can see Medusa as good and I assumed maybe it as more than one person.
HopsAway
Um...I was just wondering if, when looking at the recent color pages for Soul Eater, someone should add something more about Maka when it comes to the Fanservice department? (Especially Ch. 77- I got a friend who said Maka's look there reminded her of YOKO. o.o )
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For the love of Christ Some Dead Guy, there's a preview button. Use it.
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Does the When He Smiles trope have to do with Death the Kid? He doesn't smile as rarely as most examples in that page do, but he is The Stoic after all...
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Yeah, definitely doesn't qualify. He has the behaviors, but there are moments when he smiles when calm, and very much when he is admiring how perfect something is!
Now, Crona, on the other hand...
Something tells me that based on recent developments in the manga, Death the Kid is going to become another Sasuke, if he isn't one already . . .
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You mean he's going to become a complete moron who despite losing every fight he's in that isn't against someone who's half dead or having the plot bend over backwards to let him win, he'll be somehow be considered very important to the plan for the Big Bad?
No I don't see that happening. Mostly because Kid is literally being Mind Raped whereas Sasuke just kind of took the bad guy at his word for no reason at all like a complete tard.
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I don't see Kid's situation as being very permanent. I figure he'll be back to normal by the time Maka and co. are out of the book.
Now that you mention it...he MIGHT run a risk. But let's face it—he hasn't technically lost a battle yet. I'd say it's still too early to tell.
Nevermind my reply. I meant to click 'add new topic'.
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On the subject of Five-Man Band . . .
Granted, Maka is The Hero, Soul is The Lancer, Black Star is The Big Guy, Death the Kid is The Smart Guy and of course Tsubaki, Patti and Liz are The Chicks.
(which would make Blair the Team Pet, more or less)
But I ask you,which Soul Eater character would make a perfect Sixth Ranger? The Mentor? Etc.
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During the attempt to stop the resurrection of Asura, Stein and Spirit kinda acted as Sixth Ranger, I think.
The Mentor is Stein, but the sixth ranger keeps changing.
A friend is someone you trust to help you move. A best friend is someone you trust to hide the body.
Crona was also sixth ranger at one point.
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Would anybody argue with me if I added Attractive Bent-Gender to the list, and possibly the character profiles?
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I wouldn't. I think Tsubaki and Soul definitely count at the very least.
It recently came to my attention that the anime and the manga strongly deviate from each other eventually, at a point shortly after where I currently am in the anime. As such, I have some associated questions.
1: Without spoilers (I learned enough about what happens next while learning that there are differences at all), just how different is it? Is it practically two different series by the end, or is it still recognizable as the same thing?
2: Is it worth tracking down the manga and reading it if I quite enjoyed the show?
3: Which of the two mediums is considered canon?
4: Will there ever be a collection of all the manga chapters released in one book/set of books so that I wouldn't have to track them down all individually?
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