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NonoRobot Since: Sep, 2010
Nov 1st 2012 at 12:05:37 PM •••

Hello,

It seems that many examples in the Video Games section don't fill the trope criterias. I can read a lot of "It takes up to 20min to begin the real game" in way too many examples, whereas the trope is about games which take up to several hours before getting past the prologue. As such, those examples should be removed:

  • "Vagrant Story"
  • "Final Fantasy 1" (though this example might depend on the version of the game - I need some insight here)
  • "Valkyrie Profile"
  • "Golden Sun" and "Golden Sun: Dark Dawn"
  • "Okami"

Some others games or examples might qualify, but I'm not familiar with all the works in question. I would like your input on the subject, please.

Edited by NonoRobot
NonoRobot Since: Sep, 2010
Aug 24th 2012 at 6:52:15 AM •••

Hello,

I feel that Final Fantasy IV doesn't belong in the examples of this trope. The prologue isn't long, it isn't extended, and as the entry explains, it can take up to 20 minutes or more to get past through it... That doesn't seem like a prolonged prologue to me. Same could be said about the Final Fantasy Tactics Advance example. Overall, neither examples qualify to the trope's criterias.

Nicknacks Ding-ding! Going down... Since: Oct, 2010
Ding-ding! Going down...
Dec 12th 2010 at 10:57:04 PM •••

Are some of these even prologues? The FFVII example marks the end of the game's first act, not the end of the prologue. The prologue ends at latest when you first meet Aeris/th.

Same with both of the Knights Of The Old Republic games — sure Taris and the Paragus Mines aren't interesting (YMMV), but that doesn't make them prologues. Just boring. The real prologues are The Endar Spire (KOTOR 1) and the optional attack on the Ebon Hawk where you play as T 3 M 4 (KOTOR 2).

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BornIn1142 Since: Jan, 2001
Sep 12th 2011 at 8:39:03 AM •••

That's technically true, but still, in both Midgard and Taris, the respective games' mechanics haven't fully opened up yet, giving the impression of introductory areas.

Hydronix I'm an Irene! Since: Apr, 2010
I'm an Irene!
Jan 19th 2011 at 11:33:48 PM •••

How did it take this long for Golden Sun Dark Dawn to be mentioned? Anyway, yeah, added.

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muninn 'M not Crazy, just Raven Since: Jan, 2001
'M not Crazy, just Raven
Aug 30th 2010 at 9:22:34 PM •••

removed this nattery natter which was nattering up the Kingdom hearts example

  • And after that five hour introduction to a thirty hour game, they have the balls to show the logo on-screen.
    • "That's five hours of my life I'm never gonna get back, you stupid game! What was the point of all this?! And now Sora's acting like nothing happened!! GRAAAAAAAHGFPLPFLLPFLPFL!! Don't give me that "You now have all of Roxas's powers" thing! You're really gonna try to take from a trippy, angst-fest into a happy-go-lucky adventure just like that?! Damn you!!"
    • Five hours? It's easily able to be completed in three.
      • This troper managed to complete it in 1:30....On his second playthrough.
      • One hour dead for this troper. Then again, this troper has a starter game that were saved past all but the last fight in the prologue to avoid the issue in the first place.

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DrammaticaCD Since: Dec, 1969
Aug 10th 2010 at 5:46:32 PM •••

The newest Fire Emblem game on DS, Shin Monshou no Nazo-Hikari to Yami no Eiyuu-, has an eight-part prologue.

75.155.107.118 Since: Dec, 1969
Aug 9th 2010 at 4:59:16 PM •••

FFXIII: Made it to Lake Bresha at 1:18. Was not confused by anything not intentionally left vague. Is this guy even trying?

Gocni Nice Hat. Since: Jul, 2010
Nice Hat.
Jul 17th 2010 at 10:27:47 AM •••

Resident Evil 4. This Troper feels that it applies to everything that happens up until the first ringing of the church bells and the first (or second?) display of the title comes. Takes about half an hour, and is a bit irritating considering the work that the player may have put into fighting off a small town filled with zombies with a handgun and a few grenades. Your Miles May Vary, though.

An absence of space.
94.9.139.139 Since: Dec, 1969
May 30th 2010 at 9:16:22 AM •••

I like the game, but would The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess count? It arguably doesn't start until Ilia and the others are kidnapped at least an hour in.

Edited by 94.9.139.139
WillyFourEyes I have seen the amateur, and it is me. (Old Enough To Drive)
I have seen the amateur, and it is me.
May 14th 2010 at 7:28:39 AM •••

Level 5? Really? I consistently managed to whup Garland's ass with a team of level 3 grunts, and none of them died. Those guys aren't really trying.

I hope you get tiny bits of eggshell in all your omelettes for the rest of your life!
stevebat Since: Nov, 2009
Mar 12th 2010 at 9:51:40 AM •••

This troper would like to inform the gang he thought 2 hours it took to clear the KH 2 prologue was long he was wrong apparently its much longer without rushing

edit: also FFX might qualify if you call everything before luca such

Edited by stevebat Apocalypse: Dirge Of Swans.
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