Crossposting this from the discussion page at Older Than Radio:
To the people editing this and also the other The Oldest Ones in the Book indices: The rules of How to Write an Example apply; entries should not be mere Zero Context Examples.
Also, tropes are patterns of storytelling; that something occurs in Real Life does not establish a trope. Entries like this
- MegaCorp.: The various European East India Companies, with the first founded in England in 1600 and the second in the Netherlands in 1602.
- All Part of the Show: 17th-century urban legend.
Removed this because it doesn't explain anything. What legend? What happened in the story? This example isn't interesing, useful, or even necessary valid.
Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.
Bad, bad title! Bad title!
The way this trope is named suggests "Older than Valve's Steam platform" i.e. prior to 2003. You need a different trope name friends.
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I know it could be taken that way, but I just (like, this month) went through all the examples and wicks, and there was only one example of misuse from somebody who thought it applied to modern games.
Without a pattern of misuse, it really doesn't need a rename.
If such misuse does become a problem in the future, though, I'd probably take it to Trope Repair Shop.
Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.
Firstly, steam has been ever since water. Secondly Heron created a door opening device and a fire engine based on steam.
I believe The Oldest Ones in the Book explains the naming convention at the bottom of the page. Short version: It means Older Than The Time When Steam Power Was Widely Economically And Culturally Significant.
Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.
Re the section Tropes that originated in this time period:
Just reading over this list, a few are standing out to me as having much older origins. For instance:
Affably Evil: this is a minor example, maybe, but Antinous from Homer's Odyssey leapt to mind. Also Dionysus from The Bacchae.
Anti-Hero: couldn't Achilles be read as an anti-hero, based on the definition provided?
Befriending the Enemy: In the Epic of Gilgamesh, one of the oldest stories on record, Gilgamesh befriends his initial enemy, Enkidu.
This may be the wrong place to post, but I wasn't sure how to address this, since making adjustments to this page also necessitates updating the pages for older periods.
Edited by gozerian