Trope redefined per TRS
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Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Not even funny anymore, started by RocketScience on Sep 30th 2010 at 2:34:45 PM
Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Trope Repair Shop Edition! Cleaning Up, started by OurGLORIOUSLeader on Mar 19th 2011 at 1:42:56 AM
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Do we really need links to NSFW sites?
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Maybe new page image please? the current one is pretty dated. Can we find an image that has either more recent memes or is at least timeless? Maybe like an "evolution of internet memes" timeline thing? Or we could just post Loss.jpg.
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Anyone else think it's a good time to look for a new page image? While the current image works, a lot of the memes in it are discredited now a days...
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I don't think that justifies an image change, myself.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Thread Necromancer aside, I feel like this image could be used:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gput4995uw6gqqo/Internet%20Memes%20%28definitivo%29.png?dl=0
It's essentially the same as the one currently there, but "updated" I suppose.
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Memetic Mutation page name.
Hello, I'll start by saying I'm a microbiology lab technician, so I work a decent amount with DNA and therefor know a but about genes. I also read Richard Dawkins 'The Selfish Gene' in which the Meme was first named and defined.
A Meme is a digital equivolent for the biological Gene. In the same way a Memetic Mutation is the digital equivalent of a Genetic Mutation.
The Gene/Meme is a piece of information that spreads and propagates itself. A Genetic/Memetic Mutation is a CHANGE in the Gene/Meme that alters its content and makes it less/more likely to survive and spread in the population.
For instance on this page: 'Beam me up, Scotty!' is mentioned as meme, which it is. But in the original it was never said ONCE. Lines such as 'Scotty, beam us up.' or 'Beam us up, Scotty' were used. And it is likely that the meme was used in this format befire it changed (likely before the digital era) to 'Beam me up, Scotty.' Thus the 'Beam me up, Scotty.' Meme is still a meme, and should be mentioned on that specific page, but the Memetic Mutation page should ONLY discuss those memes that CHANGE OVER TIME.
Therefor the name of this page is plane wrong. The page should be called 'Meme' and a new page should potentially be made to address 'Memetic Mutations', or changes in memes.
Lest Memetic Mutation become a memetic mutation for Meme.
The Dark Lord of Hawaiian Shirts
Hello, Is it okay that I'll mention this? It's somewhat controversial.
EA will ruin your favourite franchise / studio. This stems from their habit of buying out existing gaming companies to get the legal rights to their game franchises and then create sequels with drastic changes and often decreased production value and then dismantling said company.
Srg. Dornan: Troper, what are you doing here?! Get back to your post!!!
The phrase "And suddenly, a wild X appears!" from Pokemon has become a meme, and a particular reference to it- "And suddenly, a wild baldo appears!"- a thing from a video by Matthew Santoro- has become a meme itself. Would the "And suddenly, a wild baldo appears!" count as a Memetic Mutation?
Am I the only one that thinks "meeeeee mmmm" is a silly pronounciation? The first e should sound like it does with bed and men. So it is more like "mem e"
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No, because that goes against the basic rules of English language. A vowel, followed by a consonant, followed by an e, is almost always pronounced with the long vowel sound (EE).
In The Selfish Gene (1976), Dawkins explains the word's origin and pronunciation: "We need a name for the new replicator, a noun that conveys the idea of a unit of cultural transmission, or a unit of imitation. ‘Mimeme’ comes from a suitable Greek root, but I want a monosyllable that sounds a bit like ‘gene.’ I hope my classicist friends will forgive me if I abbreviate mimeme to meme. If it is any consolation, it could alternatively be thought of as being related to ‘memory,’ or to the French word même. It should be pronounced to rhyme with ‘cream’" (192).
Edited by memetics What the hell is an aluminum falcon?
Exactly, and this is a detail which seems to be overlooked by this very website's attempted redefinition of the term "meme". It isn't Web-specific, it doesn't have anything to do with being repeated so often that "x" occurs. A meme is a unit of cultural self-replication, like the way we build houses or wear our hair, or shake hands, or somesuch. The overly-broad definition of the word "meme" to fit some wannabe geek or hipster's idea of what he thinks it SHOULD mean based on the context of its use is IRRELEVANT. It's a technical term. It's not okay to be dull. It's even worse to be the cause of dullness in others.
If there's no objection, I'm going to start removing potholes to Memetic Mutation that just name-check some Internet meme without providing context. We did this with Two Words: Obvious Trope and the world is a better place now.
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I'm pretty sure there's one of those in "Crosses the Line Twice" on the phrase "makes a wrong turn at Albuquerque". Which is how I got—uselessly, so far as I can tell—to this Memetic Mutation trope.
Of course that may already be on your list, but ...
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The labelnotes should be titled mutation to make it clearer and prevent misuse.
Apparently, Fan Nickname can be Trivia, but this can't? What's going on here?
Hierophant
The formatting for the medium sub-pages are too inconsistent. For example, the Video Games page doesn't use WMG's style for headings and lacks the "style instructions" on the main page.
I'd like to know what rules we're going by to keep the pages consistent. For them, I suggest "hiding" the instructions for formatting and adding the examples, by setting them as comments.
The hero… the hero has been severely deceived. Aoi.
IMPORTANT NOTE:
We are currently (very slowly) working on fixing this page. There will be a standard for each set of entries:
Title of movie
Meme Explanation And so on ad infinitum. It will be in alphabetical order of movie ("the's and "A's" don't count). And if you see a line like this:
That is somehow randomly in the middle of the page, DON'T DELETE IT. It helps keep track of which memes I've categorized already, since I'm doing it in small chunks. I would appreciate any and all help. Edited by OurGLORIOUSLeader Hide / Show Replies
As you're fixing the page, you might consider clarifying the definition of "meme" and also clarifying up front that the page deals with mutations, not just memes. In fact, "meme" itself seems to have mutated, if what's currently on the page about internet-spread memes is the more well-known definition.
(For the original definition, see Dawkins' Selfish Gene (1976): "Just as genes propagate themselves in the gene pool by leaping from body to body via sperm or eggs, so memes propagate themselves in the meme pool by leaping from brain to brain via a process which, in the broad sense, can be called imitation" (192). Memes are units of cultural transmission. So "the wheel" is a meme just as much as "lolcatz" is a meme.)
What the hell is an aluminum falcon?
We either need to find a different syntax for the Explanation hottips or fix TV Tropes's syntax handling, because people love putting potholes in explanations and it just destroys the syntax.
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It's a known issue. Not sure what's being done at the moment.
All this sounds a lot like how Rhyming Slang evolved, one word associates another, and then six degrees of separation to where you call your wife Tea and Biscuits or somesuch.
Persistance and Courage
I'm too lazy to add leeroy jenkins to the video game list. Someone else do it.
GAME OVER
That One Troper Guy
How exactly is this a subjective trope? Even people who don't like a certain meme can't deny that it's spread.
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Word has it that someone is abusing the YMMV index. Stay tuned - I reported the problem over in Wiki Talk Conversations.
Edited by ading “I just think that's really shady." "Shady?!" - Stephanie & Chad, The Amazing Race 17
Not just some people; a lot of people.
Specifically, the problem seems to be that a great many people are listing memes that only exist within specific fanbases; referencing them any real context, and not explaining what they actually mean.
Basically, this all quickly creates an unreadable mess that no one really has a full and proper grasp of.
Guess who, it's Kaosubaloo!
Ok, I'm giving World Of Warcraft its own page. That list is huge.
Aaaaand done: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Memes/WorldOfWarcraft
If you have any problems or questions, stick them here.
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I've started to clear the Theatre section of memes that haven't mutated. This trope isn't simply "Memes exist" it's "Some memes mutate. Some of those mutate wildly".
Therefore, I've moved entries that don't include any indication of how or if the mentioned memes have mutated here. I've also removed entries that aren't memes at all, but are simply earworms or favorite lines /songs/scenes.
No mutation
* Avenue Q went so far as to name a trope: "The Internet Is for Porn."
- "Everyone's a little bit racist!"
- "Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings." Originally a line from Almansor by Heinrich Heine, this has been preserved through Popcultural Osmosis, combined with Harsher in Hindsight when the Nazis burned Heine's writings.
- The Red Box, a meme within in the theatre world itself. Supposedly, in every stage show ever, there is a red box on stage at some point.
- (Rocky Horror Picture Show) "Don't get strung out! By the way I look! Don't judge a book by its cover! I'm not much of a man, by the light of day! But by night I'm one hell of a lover..."
- Food, glorious food!
- Bye, Byre, Birdie:
- This largely unknown stage musical (as compared to the moderately popular movie) is a fountain of memes, at least to any to perform in it, to name the most notable:
- "COO COO COO!"
- And one that rivals the first in terms of memetic humor: "*Chord* ED SULLIVAN!!!"
- This largely unknown stage musical (as compared to the moderately popular movie) is a fountain of memes, at least to any to perform in it, to name the most notable:
Not memes:
- The lesser known Little Women gave us:
- Off To Massachusetts
- That's How I am
- Astonishiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing
- Rent
- Would you light my candle?
- Today for you, tomorrow for me!
- The Tango Maureen/It's a dark, dizzy merry-go-round...
- I'M GOING...OOOOOOUUUUUTTTTT TONITE...
- Will I lose my dignity? Will someone caaaare? Will i wake tomorrow....from...this... nightmare...
- Take me for what i am, who i was meant to be, and if you give a damn, take me baby (or leave me)...
- Only thing to do is jump over the moon...
- I'm forbidden to produce...milk, In Cyberland we only drink Diet *Coke coke coke*
- MOO WITH ME!
- Live in my house, I'll be your shelter, Just pay me back, With one thousand kisses, Be my lover, and I'll cover you...
- Let's open up a restaurant in Santa Fe, Sunny Santa Fe would be nice, We'll open up a restaurant in Santa Fe,And leave this to the roaches and mice
- Woah oh woah...
- There's only us, There's only this, Forget regret, or life is yours to miss, No other road no other way, No day but today....
- You're living in America, At the end of the millenium....
- Don't be stupid, be a smartie. Come and join the Nazi Party.
- THAT'S OUR HITLER!
- Keep it gay, keep it gay, keep it gay...
- Haben sie gehort das Deutsche Band, Mit a bang, Mit a boom, Mit a bing-bang bing-bang boom...
- Guten Tag hop hop, Guten Tag clop clop, Ach du lieber, Und oh boy!
- Ven you got it, flaunt it, Step right up and strut your stuff...
- Oooh wah weee wah wah wow wowie!
- Prisoners of love, Blue skies above, Can't keep our hearts in jail...
- That face, that face, That dangerous face/I mustn't be unwise/Those lips, that nose, those eyes/Could lead to my demise....
- MY BLUE BLANKET!
- Sprrrrrrrringtime! For Hitler! And Germanyyyyyyy!
- You are the audience. I am the author. I outrank you.
- Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss...sss!
- Why Bloom go so far stage/camera right?
- ...and at 11, Ulla like to have sex.
- I'm hysterical!
- I'm in PAIN! I'm in pain and I'm wet and I'm STILL HYSTERICAL!
- And that's about as far as it could go.
- I have purchased many diseases under her roof.
- It was a mistake, my being born a man. I would have been much happier as a seal, or a fish.
- Nothing happens. Twice.
- The acacacacademy of anthropopopometry.
- Many of the lines from Shakespeare.
- You..Will..Be..Popular. The song as a whole is a meme.
- They never get to Moscow.
- Are there any more of those chocolates?
- The Phantom Of The Opera: The Phaaaaaantom of the Opera is there - inside your/my mind...
- Slowly, gently...night unfurls its splendour...Grasp it, sense it - tremulous and tender...Turn your face away from the garish light of day, turn your thoughts away from cold, unfeeling light - and listen to the music of the night...
- Think of me, think of me fondly....
- At last! My arm is complete again!
- The Importance Of Being Earnest "To lose one X may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose two looks like carelessness."
- "In a HANDBAG?!!"
More: Not Memes:
- Bye, bye Birdie:
- This largely unknown stage musical (as compared to the moderately popular movie) is a fountain of memes, at least to any to perform in it, to name the most notable:
- "COO COO COO!"
- And one that rivals the first in terms of memetic humor: "*Chord* ED SULLIVAN!!!"
- This largely unknown stage musical (as compared to the moderately popular movie) is a fountain of memes, at least to any to perform in it, to name the most notable:
Not Mutated:
- Oliver Twist Food, glorious food!
Can we add a new meme personality like Memetic Moron, which is basically a character who makes so many stupid decisions, whether hastily or a severe lack of common sense that it becomes too common for said character not to stop being stupid?
When an idea is formed and practiced, learn NOT from the creators but the reputation the public invest in. Website fine, idiot admins bad!