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MithrandirOlorin Since: May, 2012
Feb 28th 2013 at 5:23:27 PM •••

Embrace of the Vampire has Lesbian scenes, but not involving any Vampires.

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MrDeath Since: Aug, 2009
Mar 1st 2013 at 9:40:28 AM •••

That's nice. What's that got to do with anything?

Lecarde Since: Dec, 1969
Dec 23rd 2012 at 4:05:01 PM •••

Doesn't the Literature section of this trope read a bit funny? -Inverted -Inverted -Inverted -Straight -Inverted -Gender-flipped -Gender-flipped -Straight -Gender-flipped -Doesn't fit the trope

I thought this was the Lesbian Vampire trope page. Shouldn't male examples go in their own page? Like Gay Vampire or something like that. Also, we could fill sections on that page with Lesbian Vampire examples, calling them inversions or gender-flipped versions of the Gay Vampire trope.

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DesignatedNPC Since: May, 2015
Feb 3rd 2013 at 5:20:43 PM •••

I agree. Just make a Spear Counterpart page a la the Hot Mom/Hot Dad or Mama Bear/Papa Wolf tropes; seems like there'd be enough examples to justify it, and the two vampire-types in question are different enough that would probably make separate tropes worth it.

MithrandirOlorin Since: May, 2012
Feb 24th 2013 at 1:26:20 PM •••

Male examples don't belong here I agree.

But I do think Females count whether their Bi or not.

Besides being Female Vampires who are sexually attracted to Women, nothing else universally unites the Trope. Some are Exploitation films, and some are romances written for actual Lesbians.

MithrandirOlorin Since: May, 2012
Jul 8th 2012 at 11:37:28 PM •••

It's pointless to ever say "Technically Bisexual" the origin of the term Lesbian refereed to a Bisexual, and this Trope exists in Vampire Fiction because Vampires don't have orientation at all. Even Carmilla herself has been depicted with some male lovers.

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LordGro Since: May, 2010
Jul 9th 2012 at 12:58:34 AM •••

... but not by her creator J. Sheridan Le Fanu. Vampires are diverse.

Let's just say and leave it at that.
MithrandirOlorin Since: May, 2012
Jul 11th 2012 at 1:36:37 PM •••

Baron Vordonberg's ancestor had been a male Lover of her's. In the original story.

LordGro Since: May, 2010
Jul 11th 2012 at 2:01:38 PM •••

Whatever the term 'lesbian' referred to in its beginnings, it isn't a synonym to 'bisexual' now. I don't think there's a problem; or do I somehow misunderstand you?

Regarding Carmilla — strictly speaking, we can't know her preference. That Baron Vordenburg's ancestor was in love with her doesn't mean he also was her lover in practice. We don't know if she returned his love. What is clear is that, as a vampire, she exclusively sucks blood from women — whatever that means.

Let's just say and leave it at that.
MithrandirOlorin Since: May, 2012
Jul 11th 2012 at 3:10:45 PM •••

Synonym now, I prefer to see Lesbian as a term for any Woman who liked Woman, regardless of how they relate to men.

Vordenberg's ancestor is described as a "Favored lover" of Micralla's.

The description of Laura's attacks, has enough there that I'm pretty confident Carmilla was also fingering her as she drank from her.

Point is, especially in the context of this trope, a Vampiress being Bisexual has the same basic intended effect.

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LordGro Since: May, 2010
Jul 11th 2012 at 3:40:15 PM •••

So what is your suggestion?

Let's just say and leave it at that.
LordGro Since: May, 2010
Jul 13th 2012 at 1:12:04 AM •••

OK.

Let's just say and leave it at that.
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