Quick question: were the examples on the page and its subpages moved to the appropriate tropes or deleted entirely? Because I’ve noticed the latter happening a couple times during the recent clean-ups the wiki has been undergoing; examples are just erased when it would be easy to move them to an appropriate trope.
All off page wicks can still be found on the related page. But in terms of wick cleaning, if an example clearly fits another trope, while it is encouraged to move it and preserve as many examples as possible, we also don't force people to spend a lot of time pouring over each example, given how many wicks need to be cleaned, how few people participate in wick cleaning, and how often the cleaners aren't familiar enough with the work themselves. (This page still has 5k wicks to go through as of the time of writing, for example). Because any example can technically be added by another more familiar with the work or restored from the edit history, cleaners tend to err on the side of cutting. If you'd like to help preserve more examples, by all means join the wick cleaning as the TRS clean up is ongoing.
Edited by amathieu13
Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Misuse
, started by helterskelter on Apr 29th 2011 at 8:00:50 AM
F1 the robot
Is this trope about the audience thinking the act wasn't bad because the victimized character deserved it, or the other characters thinking that? If it's the former, then I think this trope should be made YMMV.
On a semi-hiatus from this site due to being busy with other things (may contribute here and there, but nothing major).
Several entries has a bunch of partly spoiled text like a lot of "he" or "she" spoiled out. Should these be commented out or rewritten at all?
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Is there a version of this trope where, rather than "Kick the Dog, but the dog was actually an asshole", it's more like "he may be an asshole, but dog-kicking is still dog-kicking"?
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That seems like a variant of this trope.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Hey, a lot of these are actually Pay Evil unto Evil. Anyone else want to help clean it up?
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Alright, I think we should make some slight changes to the trope, because the example provided doesn't explain what happens if the attacker knows the victim is evil, but kills him for unrelated reasons.
Here's an idea for an addendum example to Kick The Son Of A Bitch, since it seems knowing about the background, but not caring about it, screwing them over for their own, deranged reasons is its own reward to them.
After the robbers make their getaway, one of the robbers turns out to be Backstabby McGee, who frequently kills his partners for a bigger share of the cut. However, his partner's mask comes off in the alleyway and Backstabby recognizes him as Don the Rapist. However, Backstabby has no moral qualms against Don, he just kills Don because he wants his money.
I've removed a bunch of examples that fit Pay Evil unto Evil much better than this, but I think more is still needed.
Kick The Son Of A Bitch is when the villain is doing a Kick the Dog, but inadvertently hits a person who is unlikeable. They have still evil intent.
Pay Evil unto Evil is when one's specifically targeting bad people and punishing them. They are more likely heroes.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
How about not allowing Real Life example since that could run in a few problems?
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The "Video Games" section falls into a bit of a grey area, because this trope is defined by the act having malicious intent despite the victim deserving it, and in video games, intent can vary depending upon the player.
One does not shake the box containing the sticky notes of doom!
Is it just me who thinks a lot of these examples fall more under "Pay evil unto evil"?
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No, it's not just you; loads of them do. Feel free to remove them - I've taken out some. In particular, most of the "Comic Books" section fell into that category.
Okay. We shall see to it whether or not those deleted examples can qualify as Pay Evil unto Evil or not.
Is there a reason there's no "Films - Animated" section? It seems like Gru taking out his frustration at being denied a loan on Vector via freeze ray in Despicable Me would be a perfect example of this trope.
This trope page also acts as an index. Is this intended or just an oversight? I'd suppose it's an oversight.
Edit: Thank you, unknown problem solver!
Edited by LordGro Let's just say and leave it at that.
Disambiguated per TRS:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16790424540.08203200&page=1#comment-18
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