Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Ambiguous Name, started by Redmess on Jul 6th 2018 at 12:32:18 PM
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanNot to be confused with racism which is exceptionally good, as that does not exist.
I kinda want to add that sentence, but I'm not sure if I should.
Edited by hppavilion1I feel the name should be changed to something like "Fantasy Creature Racism".
Can the human on human racism in BSG be considered Fantastic? It seems pretty run of the mill racism.
Hide / Show RepliesI agree. Regular humans being prejudiced against other regular humans is not this trope.
"Can lead to Unfortunate Implications if, despite the co-opting of the struggle of a minority for drama, the cast remains largely straight, white, and pretty. "
This sentence in the description sounds like it refers to badly written works which deal with Real Life, rather then Fantastic, racism (though I guess a variant of it is possible with its Fantastic type - the author wants to make the point that the Fantastic Species is unfairly discriminated against, but the narrative itself treats the species in question as a bit of a joke). Needs deleting or rephrasing.
Edited by 87.224.188.167Fantastic racism?! Since when is racism fantastic?! It's harmful and evil!
Whoever started that trope should be punished for it.
Hide / Show RepliesFrom Merriam Webster's free online dictionary:
fan·tas·tic adj.
1 a: based on fantasy : not real b: conceived or seemingly conceived by unrestrained fancy c : so extreme as to challenge belief : unbelievable; broadly : exceedingly large or great
2: marked by extravagant fantasy or extreme individuality : eccentric
3: excellent, superlative
This trope would be referring to definition 1, not 3.
Edited by LoserTakesAllSeriously though, we should rename it "Fantasy Racism" or something.
No, because that would refer to the fantasy genre, not to "Fantasy worlds".
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanTo the person commenting on The Tenth Kingdom: I'm not sure if you were criticizing the writers of the movie or the person who was seeing racism in it, but either way, something of note—the very fact Wolf is depicted as a raving sex maniac creates Unfortunate Implications if one compares racism against wolves to that against blacks, because "raving sex maniac" is what people used to think black men were. Tony's line "He's [an X], that's what Xes do!" is a textbook example of racism. As for burning at the stake, that really has nothing to do with what wolf racism may or may not have been based on, since the Nine Kingdoms is a medieval-type world presumably operating on Burn the Witch! syndrome for anything supernatural or different regardless of any real-world parallels.
Of course if these parallels are not merely in the minds of the audience but were intended by the writer, then it's just a bit of Anvilicious Aesop-dropping—which is what Fantastic Racism is intended for in the first place.
Is this still only applicable when the prejudice is symbolic of something specific in real life, rather than just any imaginary prejudice? I remember that being pointed out before somewhere, but the description as it is now doesn't make that point.
Edited by VVKRemoved from the Top 10 entry under comics:
- It's fairly quickly established that she doesn't dislike him because he's a robot, she dislikes him because He joined the force to replace her friend and partner Girl One, who had just been killed.
Because the example it's replying to is talking about Peter "Shock-Headed Peter" Cheney. The above reply is clearly referring to Irma Geddon, a completely different character (your first clue is that Pete is a "he," Irma is a "she.")
In the Avatar example, I would argue that a really expensive superconductor is not likely to save earth or humanity. The trope still applies, but the stuff in the spoiler text is not true.
Removed because it's just regular old racism:
- Played for laughs in The Animal where the protagonist's Black Best Friend, Miles, doesn't ever get people's attention because he's black.
Brown bears being biased against pandas seems more like an example of Space Jews to me, so I think an image like this should be used instead.
Edited by DecIsMuchJuvenile