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DecIsMuchJuvenile Perky, nerdy nostalgia-head who wants you to help save the planet Since: Dec, 2018
Perky, nerdy nostalgia-head who wants you to help save the planet
Mar 29th 2021 at 2:51:46 PM •••

Brown bears being biased against pandas seems more like an example of Space Jews to me, so I think an image like this should be used instead.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/sneetch_with_star_walking_away_from_sneetch_without_star.jpg

Edited by DecIsMuchJuvenile
SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 20th 2021 at 9:06:23 AM •••

Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Ambiguous Name, started by Redmess on Jul 6th 2018 at 12:32:18 PM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
hppavilion1 Since: Aug, 2014
Dec 19th 2018 at 3:06:12 AM •••

Not to be confused with racism which is exceptionally good, as that does not exist.

I kinda want to add that sentence, but I'm not sure if I should.

Edited by hppavilion1
thejohnfan Since: Nov, 2016
May 14th 2018 at 4:27:51 AM •••

I feel the name should be changed to something like "Fantasy Creature Racism".

Peteman Since: Jan, 2001
Mar 8th 2010 at 6:41:37 PM •••

Can the human on human racism in BSG be considered Fantastic? It seems pretty run of the mill racism.

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Gamecubist Since: Dec, 2010
May 14th 2015 at 2:46:51 PM •••

I agree. Regular humans being prejudiced against other regular humans is not this trope.

LoneWolfEbrg Since: Jan, 2014
Jun 16th 2014 at 9:17:29 PM •••

"Can lead to Unfortunate Implications if, despite the co-opting of the struggle of a minority for drama, the cast remains largely straight, white, and pretty. "

This sentence in the description sounds like it refers to badly written works which deal with Real Life, rather then Fantastic, racism (though I guess a variant of it is possible with its Fantastic type - the author wants to make the point that the Fantastic Species is unfairly discriminated against, but the narrative itself treats the species in question as a bit of a joke). Needs deleting or rephrasing.

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69.131.26.126 Since: Dec, 1969
Nov 3rd 2010 at 9:25:07 PM •••

Fantastic racism?! Since when is racism fantastic?! It's harmful and evil!

Whoever started that trope should be punished for it.

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LoserTakesAll Since: Jan, 2010
Feb 4th 2011 at 1:56:10 AM •••

From Merriam Webster's free online dictionary:

fan·tas·tic adj.

1 a: based on fantasy : not real b: conceived or seemingly conceived by unrestrained fancy c : so extreme as to challenge belief : unbelievable; broadly : exceedingly large or great

2: marked by extravagant fantasy or extreme individuality : eccentric

3: excellent, superlative

This trope would be referring to definition 1, not 3.

Edited by LoserTakesAll
MikeRosoft Since: Jan, 2001
Apr 9th 2012 at 12:48:07 PM •••

Or, to put it simply, this trope refers to racism in works of fiction against fantastic races (such as elves or the undead), or to their racism against humans or each other.

Edited by MikeRosoft Long live Marxism-Lennonism!
msmrize Since: Feb, 2014
May 10th 2014 at 6:03:28 AM •••

Seriously though, we should rename it "Fantasy Racism" or something.

SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
May 10th 2014 at 6:33:42 AM •••

No, because that would refer to the fantasy genre, not to "Fantasy worlds".

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Ingonyama Gay Pagan Geek Since: Jan, 2001
Gay Pagan Geek
Apr 24th 2012 at 6:15:14 PM •••

To the person commenting on The Tenth Kingdom: I'm not sure if you were criticizing the writers of the movie or the person who was seeing racism in it, but either way, something of note—the very fact Wolf is depicted as a raving sex maniac creates Unfortunate Implications if one compares racism against wolves to that against blacks, because "raving sex maniac" is what people used to think black men were. Tony's line "He's [an X], that's what Xes do!" is a textbook example of racism. As for burning at the stake, that really has nothing to do with what wolf racism may or may not have been based on, since the Nine Kingdoms is a medieval-type world presumably operating on Burn the Witch! syndrome for anything supernatural or different regardless of any real-world parallels.

Of course if these parallels are not merely in the minds of the audience but were intended by the writer, then it's just a bit of Anvilicious Aesop-dropping—which is what Fantastic Racism is intended for in the first place.

VVK Since: Jun, 2009
Dec 22nd 2011 at 2:58:26 PM •••

Is this still only applicable when the prejudice is symbolic of something specific in real life, rather than just any imaginary prejudice? I remember that being pointed out before somewhere, but the description as it is now doesn't make that point.

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LoserTakesAll Since: Jan, 2010
Mar 4th 2011 at 11:49:36 PM •••

Removed from the Top 10 entry under comics:

  • It's fairly quickly established that she doesn't dislike him because he's a robot, she dislikes him because He joined the force to replace her friend and partner Girl One, who had just been killed.

Because the example it's replying to is talking about Peter "Shock-Headed Peter" Cheney. The above reply is clearly referring to Irma Geddon, a completely different character (your first clue is that Pete is a "he," Irma is a "she.")

Kevinbringer Since: Oct, 2010
Feb 24th 2011 at 1:36:11 AM •••

In the Avatar example, I would argue that a really expensive superconductor is not likely to save earth or humanity. The trope still applies, but the stuff in the spoiler text is not true.

LoserTakesAll Since: Jan, 2010
Feb 4th 2011 at 1:44:42 AM •••

Removed because it's just regular old racism:

  • Played for laughs in The Animal where the protagonist's Black Best Friend, Miles, doesn't ever get people's attention because he's black.

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