Discussion Main / FagHag

Probably the most salient case I've heard for bowdlerizing a trope name. Not going to lie, going to the home page and seeing that was pretty weird.

Incidentally, the only other trope I can think of with a slur in its name is the comparatively tame Half-Breed Discrimination.

I'm honestly not sure why this is even an argument. I've literally never heard this term used before so the idea that it's "common use" seems to be an exageration at best.

And it is a little offensive.

Straight Best Friend?

Yeah, definitely way too offensive. We should brainstorm for names, but all I can think of would be misinterpreted. Also, MY FIRST POST FTW.

Fag Hag is a widely-used term elsewhere, the trope has a reasonable number of wicks and inbounds, and "it's offensive" has never been a reason to rename something. I'm sorry, but this title will likely stay.

but what about the google overlords? pretty sure they'd go apeshit over this.

Agree'd. I vote for "Gal Pal": it means the same thing, and it doesn't contain a slur.

I say don't. Considering the history behind the term, if this gets censored we might as well censor every use of the word "nigga," meaning about half of every rap group page.

Fag, like all words on the site, is just a specific combination of letters on a computer screen. If you let that get to you, you might have anger or depression management issues; get a therapist. Assuming you're straight, insisting that this be changed comes off as wanting to be offended for all the homo- and bi-sexuals that aren't, such as myself, and that comes out making us look like we can't do it ourselves. Let the fags do their thing, and you do yours.

We def need to change the name. Almost all uses of the n-word on trope pages on this site are direct quote, song lyrics, or part of a group/work's title. That's fine. But this is not those situations. And notice how none of those use the slur in its actual form, i.e. with the -er ending. Whereas this page does.

We can and absolutely should recognize the fact that gay and queer people use the f word amongst themselves and FH as a term to call women who seem to single-mindedly and almost exclusively want to befriend gay and queer people. That said, there's a reason why we don't call the trope page for white characters who like black people "N***** Lover" even though the n-word has been reclaimed by black people.

I agree that it definitely needs a new name, but "gal pal" is not a good alternative, as it's insufficiently descriptive. it fails to specify that the gal in question is pals with a gay man, which is important. The rules say that it's more important for a trope's name to be descriptive than to be witty, so I propose "prefers gay friends."

It's specifically about female characters for whom a very close relationship with a (or more often, many) gay male(s) is a very significant part of their character. It can be presented in homophobic ways, but more often it's just noteworthy that the individual character's only connection to the rest of the story is through gay males.