Um, why was "No Pressure" removed?! Even environmentalists were saying "Jesus CHRIST, that's horrible!" The same sort of environmentalists who normally believe that misanthropy is a mainstream belief...
Because all examples were removed except in-universe examples.
Actually a girl.
I personally think that this trope should ALSO be called “Joke Backfire” and/or “Humor Backfire”
Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Bad examples, and kind of confusing layout.
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Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Could use in-universe examples., started by nuclearneo577 on Jul 27th 2011 at 4:32:03 AM
Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Unclear Description, started by Josef5678 on Aug 11th 2015 at 7:56:22 AM
Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Really a Useful Note, started by BURGINABC on Oct 25th 2016 at 1:38:47 AM
What’s the use of the list of things people don’t find funny on the page?
Thomas fans needed! Come join me in the the show's cleanup thread!
Absolutely plagued with in-universe examples. This entire page should just be deleted.
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It's supposed to be that way, the link above the examples say In-Universe Examples Only. I'm not sure of the particular reason, but you may ask in "Ask the tropers".
Ultimate Secret Wars
There is this example in Western Animation (Sponge Bob Square Pants, last example) that’s... A: is 1 run on sentence, and B: I have no idea if it fits the trope!
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Yeah, the entry is pretty rambling and doesn't illustrate the trope. At best, this somebody listing it as an audience-reaction, but this page is supposed to be for in-universe examples only. I cut it from the page anyway.
Here's the relevant entry:
- In Slide Whistle Stooges Spongebob and Patrick are seen at a hospital and a nurse is seen trying to revive a dead fish and the slide whistles Spongebob and Patrick are using revive him a old fish is seen hooked up to life support and can barely breath then starts laughing along with Spongebob and Patrick and finally a doctor is seen putting stitches on a fish and starts laughing with Spongebob and Patrick and the stitches come off and the episode ends.
I've added a sandbox to see if i can revise the main page to make it more like an in-universe example rather than an audience reaction. I also think some parts can be cut into an analysis sub-page.
The main body of the article describes an audience reaction/YMMV item, but the examples list is limited to in-universe examples.
The in-universe examples (of the formula, "a character makes a tasteless joke and is called out on it by other characters") seem to be common enough for this to be a real trope unto itself, with an article describing it properly as a normal trope, entirely separate from the phenomenon of the audience getting offended about what a work plays for laughs.
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Maybe take it to Trope Repair Shop and suggest that it is changed to something like "Dude Not Funny Reaction" or something
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Well, despite my lack of success in the past with the trope repair shop, I finally tried it. And, once again, it failed.
This time it was partly my fault though, I think the mod that declined it was confused by the fact that I labeled it as "really a useful note" (I forgot about the Useful Notes namespace and was trying to make a useful note about the article. facepalm.) As a result, I'm not sure he even understood what I was trying to say. He seemed to think I was saying we should allow non-In-Universe examples, which was not the point I was making at all, I was trying to say we should split the In-Universe version off into its own trope. But I guess I wasn't clear enough.
I feel like a right dumbass. I've pretty much blown my shot, there's nothing I can do to fix it now. Unless maybe I take it to YKTTW? But that's probably not the right way to do it.
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I'm confused over the in-universe label.
As the page reads, "How do you know if something deserves linking to this page? Well, it might be overused, funny, or nothing to most people. If just a few people cringe at something, well... if more people are amused than disgusted, then it's not justified to put a stop to it. But if a large number of people are offended or outright traumatized, well, to them, it is not funny."
Basically, the trope page sounds like it contradicts itself. The trope is about audience reactions but the examples are supposed to be in-universe only. Can someone explain this please?
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The audience reaction examples were so worthless that the trope was restricted to In-Universe examples.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
I'm gonna add to the page that we are converting this to non-YMMV since it's now In-Universe only until the YMMV label gets removed. Is that OK? If added, should it commented out as to not clutter the page? Would removing the links form various indexes remove the YMMV label? Should I get some kind of approval before Removing them?
Finally, I plan to cut the real life section under its quotes, since it's now limited to In-Universe only, is that OK?
Is this trope like What the Hell, Hero?, where it only applies In-Universe? Or can the out of universe Audience Reactions go on a specific works YMMV section? If the former, is there any point of keeping the trope YMMV?
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Might want to ask in the Trope Talk forum.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
I got the answer I sought there, thanks. The feedback I got implies that it was made In Universe Examples Only after the fact to prevent argument. If that's so, I still would recommend this trope be redefined to make it Non-YMMV since it only applies In-Universe.
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I'm guessing we're going for No Real Life Examples Please here, right.
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Well is there ANYWHERE on the wiki we can mention that most Australians don't find baby-eating Dingo jokes funny? The Azaria Chamberlain incident was a horrific tragedy involving a baby being killed and eaten by a wild animal and her poor, traumatised mother spending 3 years in jail after being falsely convicted of murdering her own child and treated as a monster by everyone before the truth finally came out. We'd really appreciate it if you can stop making fucking jokes about it, OK?
Well, why do you want to mention it?
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Because people keep making the jokes, obviously!
Always expect the worst and you can only be pleasantly surprised.
Since the existing page is for In Universe Examples Only, maybe the examples on the YMMV sections of shows (i.e. audience reactions) could go into a Darth Wiki section.
If they're all In-Universe, why does it have to be YMMV?
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It might be that wicks are not necessarily In-Universe (some articles, e.g. D&D alignments or the DMOS pages, have a different setup for examples on the page and for wicks off the page) and the YMMV banner is needed to make sure they go on the YMMV tab.
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
How about if the YMMV examples (audience reaction types) to into a possible Darth Wiki section.
Considering the number of in-universe examples in which the reaction comes from one or a small handful of characters, is there any point in retaining the paragraph about how there's no justification in stopping the behavior if more people are amused than disgusted? That seems to go against the concept of the trope, and simultaneously putting forward a "will of the majority" mentality where the opinions of the minority are literally meaningless.
Couldn't we list examples where characters are offended by a joke in-story, like with Incredibly Lame Pun? That is not subjective.
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I think this should be a punctuated title. Probably as "Dude, Not Funny" or something, just so it looks better.
"Stealing is a crime and drugs is a crime too BUT if you steal drugs the two crimes cancel out and it’s like basically doing a good."
At the top of this page, it says, "Please don't list this on a work's page as a trope. Examples can go here, on one of this page's subpages, or the work's YMMV tab." - Except there are no examples listed here, and this page has no subpages. Am I missing something?
Yes.
Removed Take That!. It seems to just be there to fulfill the wiki's desire for Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking.
I'm a Troper!!!
For some reason, the title reminds me of Data pushing Crusher into the ocean. Granted, that's not a full trope eliciting the response.
Always Right
The image...are people just over-sensitive or something? Because that's not Dude, Not Funny!...
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Here are the deleted examples:
- Newgrounds.com has an entire collection for flash submissions that may evoke this trope, the name of the collection is "BASTARDS"
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- "Despite how you react in public, you might let out a chuckle when you watch these movies. Congratulations! Deep down, you're a heartless bastard too!"
- In the So Bad Its Horrible film Gigli, one of the characters is called Dyke-o-saurus Rex.
- The movie Heathers had an in-universe example when Veronica's boyfriend J.D. cracks a joke at the funeral of two of their victims that they made look like a double-suicide and the little sister of one of the boys killed turns to look at them while crying. It's at that point, Veronica begins to realize how messed up she's becoming under J.D.'s influence.
- The Nostalgia Critic chastised Mako's voice in the 2007 film TMNT, saying it sounded "like he has lung cancer" (paraphrased), not knowing that he died sometime after recording Splinter's voice from oesophageal cancer.
- He also commented in his review of "IT" that the girl of the group was "easy to get into". If you've read the book (and didn't remove that memory with Brain Bleach), you won't find that funny.
- The entire review ended with him mimicking a scene in the film by killing himself in the bathtub, having written the word "Balloons" in his own blood. "Globophobia," or fear of Balloons is relatively rare, but, for some people, can lead to crippling panic attacks and persistent social stigma. Whether IT adequately conveys "globophobia", or even manages to exploit it is not discussed in the review.
- Glenn Beck mocked President Barack Obama's 11-year old daughter.
- A non-american is going to have to explain this, you might as well have laughed at Stephen Conroy for being intelligent.
- American society has traditionally seen African-American women with European features as more attractive than those with African features. What he really means by "she's ugly" is "she doesn't look white enough to be attractive". Keep in mind too that although cruelly belittling children for their superficial appearance seems to be acceptable behaviour in the UK (see the way you treat Princess Beatrice for a stomach-churning example), in North America it's considered the moral equivalent of belittling breast cancer patients for not having a perfect rack. No, maybe worse: adults belittling children for things out of their control is probably only one step up from baby rape.
- Haha, awesome. I didn't realise I considered belittling children for their superficial appearance acceptable behaviour, nor that I'd treated Princess Beatrice in any way at all. Keep your trenchant observations on this magical, universal U.K. culture where they belong, in your head.
- In the Venture Bros., the Monarch accidentally brings cigarettes to King Gorilla's welcome home party.
- While The Nostalgia Chick does plenty of Rape as Comedy jokes which are funny and completely accepted as Crosses the Line Twice, her "Rapping About Rape" video was disliked by both fans and other contributors and it was pulled shortly afterwards.
- The extremely violent "No Pressure
PSA by the 10:10 campaign. Appearantly the creators thought blowing up people (including children!) who were global warming skeptics was hilarious
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