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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 20th 2021 at 8:40:00 AM •••

Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Misused, started by RallyBot2 on Jun 6th 2019 at 12:20:42 AM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
AnotherGuy Since: Aug, 2013
Aug 12th 2018 at 8:23:02 PM •••

One episode of Absolutely Fabulous has Bo and Marshall infiltrating that actual Happyology cult that we're apparently not supposed to mention, treating it like a dangerous spy mission.

HumanRobotGirl Since: Jan, 2018
Jan 23rd 2018 at 2:44:04 PM •••

Would anyone like to add these examples from live-action TV?

The fourth season of Devious Maids introduces a cult called The Circle and its introductory text, Joynetics.

In Runaways the Church of Gibborim draws the elite of Los Angeles, and proselytes are promised the opportunity to attain higher levels.

BackgroundGuy Since: Feb, 2016
Apr 11th 2016 at 11:09:02 AM •••

"regardless of the existence or lack thereof of any bad intent"

The word "thereof" is redundant and disrupts the sentence's flow. Actually, I would suggest amending it to this:

"regardless of whether there is any bad intent"

ike755 Since: Dec, 2013
Aug 16th 2015 at 6:01:57 PM •••

When I see "scientology" or "Scientologist" written in a trope example, should I change it to "Happyology", or leave it how it is?

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Aug 17th 2015 at 1:58:03 AM •••

Leave it as it is.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Aug 17th 2015 at 5:30:45 AM •••

I'd say it'd depend on the context. For most, I'd leave it, but there are instances where it should be Happyology if it's referring to a Church of Happyology, not Scientology.

For example:

  • The Church of the Rising Bean is filled with nothing but Happyologists
Would be correct, but putting "Scientologists" there would be inaccurate, since, well, it's not Scientology.

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ike755 Since: Dec, 2013
Aug 27th 2015 at 3:11:32 PM •••

But we don't want to get sued, do we?

SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Aug 28th 2015 at 3:51:05 AM •••

That's more of a joke, really.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
ike755 Since: Dec, 2013
Aug 31st 2015 at 5:22:19 PM •••

I know, but shouldn't we at least keep up said joke?

hydrix Since: Jul, 2013
Jun 16th 2015 at 1:32:34 PM •••

I wanted to add an example to the Comic book folder.

  • The 2 people from a small sect that appeared in Spirou Et Fantasio in album #37, called Le réveil du Z, is this. Their name of it is not known at all and all we probably know else is that they greet with the term Kakebuke. They have aside from the belief that aliens landed on planet earth also the belief that the earth is flat, like a flying saucer. The reason that these 2 are in the album is to talk with Fantasio about the events that happened in the previous album, which was called L'horloger de la comète, in the hope that it proves that their beliefs are true. After they hear his story they find out that he is not useful enough to justify their beliefs and proceed to make him drunk.

Hope it is good enough.

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jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
Jun 16th 2015 at 5:10:45 PM •••

You should ask for edits to locked pages here.

Edited by jormis29 Working on cleaning up List of Shows That Need Summary
jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
Apr 5th 2015 at 9:58:38 PM •••

You might want to expand it and post a request here

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tropelion Since: Dec, 2013
Jan 26th 2015 at 5:38:15 PM •••

I'd like to ask a controversial question. Is the reason that Scientology is not allowed to be named on the page describing 'Church of Happyology' or anywhere on Tv Tropes outside discussion pages due to the trope 'Don't Explain the Joke', or is it due to fear of reprisals from the Church of Scientology/ Scientologists in real life?

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Jan 27th 2015 at 1:11:26 AM •••

Don't Explain the Joke and the trope is not about Scientology itself, really.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
ManicOppressive Since: Jun, 2011
Feb 16th 2015 at 1:36:38 PM •••

It's generally funnier than outright saying it. But unless I'm mistaken, there's no ban on mentioning Scientology on other pages. They're overly-sensitive and trigger-happy with the lawyers, but they don't literally sue everyone who mentions them.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Feb 16th 2015 at 11:29:09 PM •••

Missing the point. The trope is not about Scientology. Not mentioning it is also a joke on their trigger-happiness with lawyers.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Alberich Since: Apr, 2011
Aug 6th 2014 at 3:18:10 PM •••

Why is the topic locked? I wanted to add a reference to Niven & Pournelle's <I>Inferno</I> (where the Fifth Circle, the burning tombs of the heretics, includes some kind of sci-fi author who founded some kind of religion or another, not that it's named or anything).

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Aug 7th 2014 at 5:11:26 AM •••

It was deemed to be "finished". You - and other people - can ask for edits here though.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SvartiKotturinn Since: Sep, 2013
Apr 29th 2014 at 2:21:19 PM •••

Does this Cracked article count as a real-life example, or can it go on the Web Original section?

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Apr 29th 2014 at 11:21:24 PM •••

That would go under Web Original. Cracked is a work after all.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
illegalcheese X-14: Killer Cheese Since: Apr, 2010
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Jul 2nd 2012 at 1:30:56 AM •••

So...can an entry be made under Real Life for Scientology, or are we being cautious of their considerable resources and lack of restraint? Or does Scientology not fit this trope?

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StarSword Since: Sep, 2011
Jun 4th 2013 at 9:11:57 AM •••

I think it's better left unsaid. It's enough that we're implying it in the description, and the trope itself is about fictional religions that are totally not references to Scientology.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Jun 4th 2013 at 10:11:31 AM •••

I think actually making the description more clear wouldn't be a bad idea. I think it's funny and clever that it's unsaid, but lots of people are using this trope for Scam Religion or any happy religion.

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LordXavius Since: Oct, 2010
Nov 11th 2013 at 4:12:31 PM •••

Happyology is good for part of a trope name, but it's a bit annoying to constantly read "thinly veiled ripoff of Happyology" practically everywhere in the examples as if that's the name of the actual religion. I'm fairly certain the name Scientology isn't a real-life Speak of the Devil example. Hubbard's Creator page uses Scientology, so it's not like it's wiki-banned. Looks mostly like a Running Gag taken to the point of annoyance.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Jul 19th 2013 at 7:45:07 AM •••

Might be, but I'm pretty sure it's actually not an example.

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Durvin Since: Feb, 2010
Nov 13th 2012 at 9:50:58 AM •••

I'm pretty sure the Church of the Sub Genius counts—they've been making fun of every religion and this one in particular for decades now. The only question is, where do you put them? I'd say "web original", but they've been around since the 1970's at least.

TehFireShark Since: Nov, 2010
Jun 5th 2011 at 12:50:24 PM •••

Is this trope about Scientology itself, or veiled references to Scientology? It's a little unclear.

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JJames Since: Jun, 2012
Jul 5th 2011 at 2:09:54 PM •••

Why are you talking about Scientology? Scientology is totally unrelated to this page. Totally. Unrelated. To. The. Page. Got it?

kroozer101 Since: Feb, 2011
Jul 10th 2011 at 4:05:21 PM •••

This entire page is about a church. That wants you to be happy. That's all it is?

Whaddya mean, subtext?

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Qehb Since: May, 2011
Jul 14th 2011 at 1:35:53 PM •••

I, and my legal associates, have never even heard of the term "Scientology".

"I was working on the proof of one of my poems all the morning, and took out a comma. In the afternoon I put it back again."- Oscar Wilde
ManicOppressive Since: Jun, 2011
Sep 17th 2011 at 12:05:55 PM •••

In answer to the original question, this page is not about veiled references. As to whether the reference here should really even be considered VEILED... :D

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KainLupusProxyAccount Since: Oct, 2011
Dec 4th 2011 at 7:31:24 AM •••

OP has a point. Some of the examples given seem to be nothing more than related to the censored religion.

Joesolo Since: Dec, 2010
Jul 13th 2012 at 8:36:01 AM •••

The 'religions' your talking about seems to fit the trope, but I dont know what specific one your talking about.

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Hawisher Since: Dec, 1969
Aug 22nd 2011 at 10:07:49 PM •••

Why would we write something about Scientology? Scientology is completely unlike happyology.

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Joesolo Since: Dec, 2010
Oct 3rd 2011 at 1:08:45 PM •••

What is this "Scientology" you speak of? it surely has nothing to do with this page! nothing at all! *coughcough* *winkwink*

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