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VelvetPierrot Maniac Demon Emperor Since: Nov, 2016
Maniac Demon Emperor
Apr 22nd 2024 at 5:54:38 AM •••

Regarding one One Piece example about Big Mom, it's very likely that the Sleeping Giant was not a neutral party when the Straw Hats confronted her (because she agreed on Judge giving Sanji in marriage and Luffy naturally going to rescue him)... so, when the Sleeping Giant is the one doing the pissing, would that count as a subversion or another way to play with the trope?

AltoonaMan Since: Feb, 2011
Feb 22nd 2014 at 2:27:49 AM •••

There's a boatload of natter in the comments under the Real Life section but some good points as well. I don't want to risk ruining a very informative bit of information but at the same time, there's WAY too much blatant natter. I'm hoping someone more patient than I am can skim through it and pick apart the natter and save the good information.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Feb 22nd 2014 at 2:39:52 AM •••

All that natter is not relevant to the article's topic here. I would delete the whole material.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Scalondragon Scalon D. Dragon Since: Jan, 2011
Scalon D. Dragon
Aug 28th 2012 at 9:01:47 AM •••

What about the 2011 Miami Heat in the 2011 NBA Finals? It wasn't until they started taunting the Dallas Mavericks while they had a big lead in Game 2 (they'd won Game 1) that Dirk Nowitzki and the Mavericks started playing. The Heat would lose Game 2, win Game 3, and then lose the three next games in a row to make the Mavericks the 2011 NBA Champs.

ohthehumidity Since: Jan, 2001
Oct 5th 2010 at 4:58:42 AM •••

Except for the WW 2 example, the Real Life entries seem odd at best. None of the countries/alliances/whatever can really be considered True Neutral in most contexts. Additionally the trope seems to mostly relate to military matters, which doesnt really seem to be the case when talking about e.g. the EU or India.

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Rhatahema Since: Sep, 2010
Oct 23rd 2010 at 1:56:52 PM •••

Agreed. A country can only be True Neutral in the context of a conflict. Speculating that a certain superpower, or potential superpower, could become one of these isn't really sufficient.

captainsandwich Since: Jan, 2012
May 25th 2012 at 4:57:58 AM •••

United States was not neutral. It was a non-beligerant (until attacked). Does this mean we should lower the requirements?

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87.147.58.108 Since: Dec, 1969
Jan 10th 2011 at 1:34:04 PM •••

Nobody thought of Avatar yet? Neytiri describes the planet as neutral and not helping any side, just keeping the balance - until the humans threaten to crush one of the most vital "organs" of the planet.

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