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SoyValdo7 I mainly fix indentation issues Since: Sep, 2022
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Sep 30th 2022 at 6:07:13 PM •••

Can you used Actor Allusion in a Non-Visual media?

I noticed the sometimes this trope is used in Fanfictions. For example, in this page, they said:

  • "Actor Allusion: When Dipper mentions encountering a half human half spider creature, Ford becomes intrigued, places a pen in his mouth like a certain iconic Cigar Chomper, and proceeds to hammily and furiously yell, "I WANT PICTURES! PICTURES OF SPIDER-MAN!!!""

It still counts for this trope or would be a simple Shout-Out?

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MrStranger616 Since: Feb, 2020
Mar 14th 2021 at 2:39:24 PM •••

the toy of Gonzo as Darth Vader is technically this, because Gonzo played a Captain Ersatz of Vader in one episode.

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MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
Jul 15th 2021 at 5:24:57 AM •••

If you feel that way, then why not just add the example yourself? (Also, that's not an Actor Allusion. It's just the same "actor" playing the same role twice.)

DaibhidC Wizzard Since: Jan, 2001
Wizzard
Nov 15th 2019 at 12:52:23 PM •••

I've just noticed that all the media that don't directly have actors have been cut. In theory that makes sense, I guess, but in practice, I'm not clear why Grand Nagus Zek quoting Vizzini from The Princess Bride in a Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Relaunch novel is somehow less "It's funny because Wallace Shawn played both roles!" than it would be if it was in the series. It's still the character played by Wallace Shawn, and it's still a reference to his past career. Even without actual Wallace Shawn.

orvillethird Since: Jan, 2011
May 31st 2018 at 7:52:37 PM •••

Does this apply to allusions to non-actors, such as directors?

Cyclonus Since: Mar, 2013
Jun 14th 2016 at 2:38:00 PM •••

I accidentally put this page on the cutlist. Sorry about that.

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JohnSherman Since: Jan, 2011
Sep 9th 2016 at 11:35:26 PM •••

I almost wish this page was cut. The amount of misuse is absurd. Is there any chance the page could be more blatant about what qualifies to cut down on the reams and reams of "This isn't the first time X was Y."

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jewelia13 Since: Jan, 2001
Jul 13th 2014 at 1:06:16 PM •••

I've noticed a lot of people using Actor Allusion when they really mean "Hilarious In Hindsight", "Expy", etc. Would it be possible to perhaps write in an explanation of WHY these are different (seriously, it's really getting on my nerves).

GovernorExplosion Level 9 Half-Elf Chirurgeon Since: Jan, 2010
Level 9 Half-Elf Chirurgeon
Mar 15th 2014 at 5:20:28 PM •••

A question that specifically pertains to licensed animation and video games: Sometimes a reference will be made to the original actor who played the part, even if they're currently being played by The Other Darrin. Is this still worth mentioning, or adding to the official description of the trope?

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RobertG Since: May, 2014
May 24th 2014 at 11:21:46 PM •••

It seems like the reverse of what they're describing by Actor Allusion. In fact I came to this page to bring up the category of the Reverse Actor Allusion. The example I had in mind was of the movie of "Arsenic and Old Lace", which included the line, "He looked like Boris Karloff." That alluded to the actor who had played on stage the Jonathan character referred to by that line.

CaptainCrawdad Since: Aug, 2009
Mar 18th 2014 at 12:23:56 PM •••

Why is this trope Trivia, while other tropes like Shout-Out and Casting Gag are not? An allusion to a previous actor's role is a part of a work that is done deliberately. That's not Trivia, that's a trope.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 18th 2014 at 11:45:47 PM •••

Might want to ask here.

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johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
Jan 29th 2014 at 8:13:25 PM •••

Does this cover allusions to events in an actor's real life?

AutoPilate AutoPilate Since: Jan, 2010
AutoPilate
Dec 2nd 2013 at 11:32:42 AM •••

Dana Delany delivering the line "He laughs" in both Mask Of The Phantasm and Tombstone?

Incidentally, not only did both films come out the same year, but they came out within a day of each other.

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fringeboneschuck Since: Apr, 2011
Jul 24th 2012 at 8:56:24 AM •••

I'm wondering if there's a trope where a work makes an allusion to another work of the writer, not the actor. Is there some sort of "Writer Allusion" trope, or could an example of that be put under Actor Allusion?

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orvillethird Since: Jan, 2011
Dec 27th 2012 at 7:30:22 PM •••

Or Director Allusion? (The final line in "The Geisha Boy" would qualify for that- Frank Tashlin did direct Bugs Bunny...)

spatulaofdoom Since: Aug, 2010
Aug 19th 2010 at 5:48:23 PM •••

Would Liam Neeson in Kingdom of Heaven warning Olando Bloom that there's more to a sword than just the blade. Considering this is what leads to his death in The Phantom Menace.

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Mareon Since: Aug, 2009
87.113.169.31 Since: Dec, 1969
Oct 5th 2010 at 9:13:24 AM •••

In The Prestige there's a part where Andy Serkis (Gollum) remarks on Hugh Jackman's magic act, where he managed to accurately guess the contents of his audience's pockets.

Anybody else think this is a reference to Serkis's previous role as Gollum, a character who lost the riddle 'what do I have in my pocket?' to Bilbo in The Hobbit?

DAN004 Chair Man Since: Aug, 2010
Chair Man
Sep 1st 2010 at 11:55:12 PM •••

Before I add my own example, I want to ask whether this is really an example or not : ||http://fast1.onesite.com/capcom-unity.com/user/wilyweil/1796d0ff8caf2e1a97e2779e4cad8aff.jpg?v=250200||

The voice is Sanae Kobayashi, for you who don't know.

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