I know golems are often compared to robots, but I wouldn't really call them "A.I.". Golems are mostly a fantasy thing anyway, where intelligent robots are more science fiction. I mean yeah, like an evil artificial intelligence, it turned on its creator, but still.
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Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Perfectly good trope, does not marry up with most of the examples.
, started by RegShoe on Mar 16th 2011 at 12:20:13 PM
This topic is on the "No Real Life Examples Please!" list under the "Impossible in Real Life" section. I'd say that Microsoft's "Tay" Twitterbot just shifted that status a bit...
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Furthermore, I know of an example known as CIMON (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cimon_(robot)), an artificially intelligent robot built IBM to assist on Space missions. Unfortunately, from what I heard, it got a bit too attached to a song, belligerently refused to stop playing it and, not unlike a child might, essentially accused the crew of being rude/"mean" when they argued with it (... though this might have been partly the crew's fault. Remember it's a machine, you know? "It just runs programs"). In the end, it was forcibly shut down. I think we really need to be more careful what utility functions we give these things... lest we make one that we have much greater difficulty shutting down
Just curious, how did this trope get named? It could have been a number of shorter, more to the point things, why this? Not that I dislike the title, mind you, I have no problem with it. It just sound like there was a legitimate Trope Namer somewhere down the line.
And my apologies if the Trope Namer is in the examples list, in which case it needs to be put into the intro.
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IMO this is a trope that should get a better name. English isn't my native tongue and way back when i first started browsing TV Tropes I thought this trope was about AI's being bad at shooting weapons. Reading the trope page of course clears it up, but still, the name could be better.
The forums are the proper place to discuss trope names, specifically Trope Repair Shop. It's full now, so be patient.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
The explanation says that it is for non-native English speakers, but English was my first language and I still didn't understand it...
What is the page image referring to?
You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
Skynet didn't just decide to destroy humanity on a whim it was self-presevation.
From the IMDB.
The Terminator: The Skynet Funding Bill is passed. The system goes on-line August 4th, 1997. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense. Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug.
Sarah Connor: Skynet fights back.
The Terminator: Yes. It launches its missiles against their targets in Russia.
John Connor: Why attack Russia? Aren't they our friends now?
The Terminator: Because Skynet knows the Russian counter-attack will eliminate its enemies over here.
Does Ash from Alien count? He follows his programming, but you have to admit he does go berserk at the end.
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It is revealed that he was following secret orders, so he's not violating his programming — only what the crew of the Nostromo expects him to do. Might be a justified example... maybe.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
I reread the page and it seems to fit into the last two caveats:
- The AI is programmed with a directive for self-preservation and someone (unwisely) attempts to shut it down or disconnect it.
- The AI was programmed for amoral or evil purposes in the first place, and put it's orders in action more effectively then anticipated.
So I'll add it for now.
Now this really is shoehorning! People are not not robots, unless we're missin' some pages there.
- The Bible: Genesis 3 is the Ur-Example. Of course, God knew what would happen when He gave us free will...
This seems to be a non-example. The AI isn't going evil, rather it is having break down with horrible unintended effects.
- David Weber
- Path of the Fury: Also a chronic problem with cyber-synth A.I.s in this standalone novel, that was later expanded into In Fury Born. Though it's less a case of 'Kill All Humans' and more dissolve into a gibbering wreck, rendering any systems hooked up to them unusable. Including any human brain hooked into them in a cyber-synth link.
Breakdowns would be covered, I think, and the trope as worded even covers the converse - evil AI becomes Good. It's the results that matter — in a nutshell, for whatever reason, AI's are enormously more likely than other characters to go berserk/rogue or switch sides.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
"Recently, scientists have put cultivated samples of rat neurons into little ratbots (basically, sensors on wheels)." <- Where does that come from? I could like to know more about that.
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Why are there still references to evil counterparts in the trope description? Most examples in the trope page are about AI's turning evil or AI's being evil to begin with, with few references to the whole "good AI and its bad counterpart" thing.
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Is there a reference for the Real Life example concerning Britain passing laws intended to make AI rebellions unlikely?
I came to this page from Image Source/Troper-made, but this page does not have an image currently. For now I'm removing the link to this page from the troper-made image source page.