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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Jul 17th 2018 at 2:45:47 PM •••

This entry is being edit warred over. Please talk it out here instead of edit warring.

  • Mighty Whitey: According to the Ilvermorny series, the idea to focus your magic through a stick was beyond the Native American sorcerers; it took European invaders to show them that technique.
    • Every time a Muggleborn comes in and bests all the wizards who were born into the culture and raised by magical parents.

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Ymirsdaughter Since: Jul, 2014
Jul 17th 2018 at 2:58:56 PM •••

The Ilvermorny series contains this trope. The Ilvermorny series is part of the Harry Potter series. Why shouldn't it be there? Because fans want the thing to be so pure and free from racism that it can't be acknowledged?

The Muggleborn part was added by someone else, but then, I only kept it in because it was added by someone else.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Jul 18th 2018 at 5:51:53 AM •••

The muggleborn is the only part that even tangentially represents the trope, and only if you consider "Muggle" to equate "Whitey" which is a considerable stretch.

The first part, as-written, is not Mighty Whitey. Mighty Whitey is "white outsider joins natives, becomes better at their own art and culture." As it is now, it's "European wizards were better" which reeks of Unfortunate Implications but isn't this trope because they're still using their own style of magic. They're not better at Native magic, their own magic is apparently better. If the European settlers showed up, and went "ah, wandless magic. I bet I can do that too!" and wind up better, that'd be Mighty Whitey. Or if the Natives used wands and the Europeans didn't, then the Europeans adapted it and improved it, that'd be Mighty Whitey.

Your arguing in bad faith, accusing anyone who disagrees with you of fanboyism, lying about there not being an edit reason, and edit-warring really makes me wary of your edit in the first place, so your justification has to be better than "yah-huh!"

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Ymirsdaughter Since: Jul, 2014
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Jul 18th 2018 at 7:42:05 AM •••

Definitely better written, but like I said, "Muggles = Whitey" might be too much of a stretch for Tropes Are Flexible.

I asked on the "Is this an example?" thread to get more opinions, as I'm honestly not sure.

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