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openWhat does POTN mean? Videogame
I've seen this acronym used in several video game-related pages, and it never links to anything nor does it have any accompanying explanation. What does POTN mean/stand for?
openFormatting numbers - spelling out or digits only?
I launched a trope and in writing it wrote out the numbers below 100, since that's how I was taught to format numbers in writing — everything that can be two words should be written out (so everything below 100) and minimally, it's correct formatting to do at least every number below 10 and all numbers at the start of a sentence unless it's math you're writing Recently ~@HazelMcCallister changed the text so every written out number was turned into digits. Including a five, which I was taught grammatically should always be spelled out. Examples of numbers in writing here.
Is this a rule I'm breaking?
Edit for clarification on when numbers are written out.
Edited by NethiliaopenBile Fascination Writes The Plot????????
If an Audience Reaction is a factor in the creation of a work, should it be referenced in some way?
As an example: I could add mocking references to The Nutshack or The Big Bang Theory in a work, because I and others like to make fun of those works. So, you could say that me showing Bile Fascination towards The Nutshack is the justification for inserting The Nutshack references or even characters in a work.
In that case, how would that be classified? It wouldn't fit on a normal YMMV page because it's an Audience Reaction expressed by the creator towards a different work, and not directed to the work itself; it wouldn't fit on the Main page because it's still an out-of-universe example. Should it be listed as Trivia under Word of God if I officially say that I added references to The Nutshack out of Bile Fascination? Or is it not worth pointing out at all for this site?
Edited by TMH-Sir-Iron-VomitopenCelebrity gossip on Unfortunate Implications
I spotted two entries on Unfortunate Implications that I'm not sure belong there. Both entries, rather than discuss how the trope pertains to a certain work, instead discuss the personal lives of celebrities.
- Her [Taylor Swift's] decision to engage in a public romance with Matty Healy and released a collaboration with Ice Spice was widely derided as damage control for Matty's numerous racist behaviors and comments.
- Rihanna's continuous friendship and even collaboration to Chris Brown has been widely critized as sending messages of women accepting their abuser.
I feel like they should both be deleted, but I wanted to double check before doing so.
Edited by Storygirl000open TRS crowner
There is an active crowner for Law of Alien Names at the Trope Repair Shop. Click here if you want to join the discussion.
resolved Gravity YMMV example
On YMMV.Gravity, Etrebamort added a Memetic Mutation example that didn't have any sort of context. I commented out the example and sent them a ZCE notifier. They responded by saying (I'm paraphrasing here) that adding context would lean into Don't Explain the Joke, and then made the example visible again while potholing it to From Bad to Worse.
I'm posting this query to ask for permission to comment out the example again. Without context, an example just shouldn't be visible at all, regardless of what kind of joke it would ruin with it.
openMystic Force issue.
Meduini has made a few concerning edits on pages regarding Power Rangers Mystic Force. They added an Adaptational Attractiveness example on the YMMV page, added a Broken Aesop example that seems to be mostly natter with sub-bullets that continue off the previous example, added an example for Not Even Bothering with the Accent on the trivia page, and recently used first person writing while incorrectly adding a sub-bullet on the awesome moments page.
I've already deleted and sent misuse notifiers for the Adaptational Attractiveness and Not Even Bothering with the Accent examples, but what should be done about the Broken Aesop and Awesome Moment examples?
Edited by ejmenendezresolved 'Related' page question.
What does "Since January 1, 2012, this article has brought X people to the wiki from non-search engine links" mean? I've seen people in the TRS referring to this number as the inbound count but my first impression is that it means how many people visited the page from in-wiki links.
openDead Boy Detectives Index Question Live Action TV
Dead Boy Detectives 2024 is listed on the Teen Drama Index. While the show is about teens, teens are not the target audience. It's rather disconcerting to see a show with a fairly unflinching gore factor listed between Dawson's Creek and Degrassi. I threw up a question on this listing on the discussion page, but have gotten no response there, so throwing the question out here. Does it belong there? Yea or Nay?
openExample to Trope: 'Working Class Anthem' Film
Hey Tropers,
I stumbled upon the trope 'Working Class Anthem' and thought it would be great to contribute an example to it.
- Example:** The song 'Jame Raho' from the movie 'Taare Zameen Par (2007)' could be a fitting addition. This song, featured in the IM Db top 250, encapsulates the daily grind of two brothers. The elder brother adheres to a rigid routine, waking up early, preparing for school, and conforming to societal expectations imposed by parents and the community. This portrayal mirrors the disciplined approach often associated with the working class, where adherence to norms and responsibilities is paramount.
Conversely, the younger sibling rebels against this conformity, refusing to conform to the societal mold imposed upon him. His struggle symbolizes the challenges and aspirations of those who seek to break free from the constraints of conventional expectations.
I believe 'Jame Raho' embodies the essence of the 'Working Class Anthem' trope, portraying both the adherence to tradition and the desire for individuality within the working-class context.
Best regards, Sumit
openNeed helping fixing bullet points and folders on a page
Today, I finally begun a series of edits that I had long been planning to add on the Character pages for Identity V. However, in editing Identity V Survivors Part 1 I was shocked to find that the page had ended up bugging up, leading to folders being hidden and bullet points for tropes not being put in place. I tried to fix the issue myself, but nothing seems to work.
Does anyone know what has happened and how to fix it?
Edited by WiryAiluropodineresolved Trope Link Redirection not working Anime
Hi, I'm trying to redirect to a trope page for a Yugioh Arc-V fanfiction, and am having an issue with it.
The trope is Fanfic/Yu-Gi-Oh Arc-V The Six Dimensions, and when I try to put that into the page editor, it's appearing as a red link for some reason.
[[Fanfic/Yu-Gi-Oh Arc-V The Six Dimensions Trope]] is how it's supposed to be entered right?
Does anyone know what might be the issue here? I'm trying to redirect this from the Yugioh Arc-V Fan Fic Recs page.
openDo Youtubers making fanworks count as fanfiction?
Some context… I came upon this Goddess of Victory: NIKKE channel, "Goddess of Drip: Nikke", which has the characters of the game playing mostly Halo Infinite and razzing on each other. The voices are done with text to speech AI.
openSelf Pimping Vandal?
Samarth Ror's Only edits are to add poorly formatted sinkholes to a Creator article to his own name (which doesn't exist not that it matters he seems to not understand how to wikiword).
Incidently there's an article on Wikipedia (EDIT: actually wikialpha, wikipedia's cousin with lower standards where they pride themselves on not deleting stuff) by the same name made by a guy with the same name 2 days ago so it seems to be a weird troll going around creating pages for himself?
Latest entry was trying to add himself as a lead actor for RRR (2022)
Edited by GhilzopenWanting to avoid an edit war
On Trivia.Shin Megami Tensei V, troper helryx removed a Dueling Games entry citing that "Dueling games doesn't apply to two works just because they were released in the same month".
Here's the entry is question:
- Dueling Games: Vengeance is slated to be released on June 14, 2024, one week before the release of Elden Ring's highly anticipated Shadow of the Erdtree DLC expansion.
However it doesn't match up to what Dueling Works has to say: Again, just to be clear: The works have to be produced during the same time period (within one year of each other or with overlapping runs in the case of series)
However, I don't want to start an edit war so I want to ask if it is ok to restore?
openArch-Enemy shoehorning
Ever since they joined TV Tropes, dgenega5764 has been heavily focused on the Arch-Enemy page (and they have made tons of edits for nearly all of its subpages as well). There have been complaints about them shoehorning examples before, and I don't feel like things have really changed since then.
A lot of their examples simply boil down to two characters being enemies regardless of how personal or brief their enmity is. For example, they listed Buggy as an Arch-Enemy to Luffy, even though Luffy has openly stated that he simply sees Buggy as a moron.
Similarly, they listed Emperor Pilaf as an Arch-Enemy to Goku. While it may be true that Pilaf views Goku aa his greatest enemy, the same is definitely not true on Goku's end (especially considering that there are stronger, more personal, and more competent enemies to him; Pilaf is largely just comic relief).
They also listed Commander Red as one for Goku as well, which I think is even worse since the two never even met each other (and they only briefly interacted with each other in the anime over a radio).
I'm sure there are tons of other examples, but I feel like these illustrate my issues with their edits fairly well. They also have extensive history with pages like Greater-Scope Villain, Big Bad, etc.
Edited by PokemonMasterJamalopendoes this register as anti-semetic?
disclaimer: i am in no way a fan of zionism or Israel, free Palestine
a user in the Rule Of Cautious Editing Judgement and the No Real Life Examples Please brought up Master Race for cutting and this was one of the first examples:
* Ironically, despite their suffering at the hands of the Nazis over this belief the Jews haven't been immune to it either. The Jewish people were always ethnocentric, as evidenced by their religious texts purporting the supremacy of their ethnic collective over other nations. The main reason they treated Jesus as All of the Other Reindeer was because they expected a God-Emperor to establish a One World Order in which Jews would openly realize their spiritual and political supremacy over other peoples. However, their supremacist beliefs lacked the force of a state and an apparatus for wielding control over non-Jews until the formation of modern Israel, in which the Palestinians living under them are heavily discriminated against. Black African Jews (largely Ethiopians) have also been treated very badly, as have some Middle Eastern Jews (in spite of Jews' origins being there) and Christian converts because European Jews are the rulers overall, with many holding racist views.
now, racism among European Jews and Israel is a hot button topic and as someone from Southeast Asia I've seen Israeli racism towards SE Asians, especially Filipinos, but this sounds not great at all and blames "Jews"
this was originally added by stankykong here. the edits by Fireblood seem okay because it mentions the issues of racism against non-European Jews, which has been an issue in Israel for a while
openIs Paris Jackson's page a little too prying?
The biography for Paris Jackson talks a lot about her mental health struggles and self-harm attempts, which seems a little bit too prying into her personal life, especially since she's still living, still pretty young, discusses things that happened before she started her actual career, and has talked about how much she doesn't like being a paparazzi magnet. Should this be edited?
openDuel Links huge folder question Videogame
Somewhere along the line Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Links got two huge folders detailing every playable character and their signature card, putting strain on an already pretty big page. Should it stay or should they go, do you think?
(Disney Dreamlight Valley and Disney Speedstorm have similar folders for villagers/playable characters and signature songs too even though they have a Character page. Since this is kind of a similar situation I'm curious about those too.)
I often notice that on Visual Novel pages with a lot of sub-pages, it can be a little bit weird to not be able to see the main page from the menu, and instead have to click "More" - "Visual Novel". Would it be a good use of redirects to create a Video Game page for these that redirects to Visual Novel?