So this is a place for people who are interested in helping out, or getting help with, wick checks. Maybe you just want people to double-check your work before you submit it to the TRS, or maybe you have a big project in mind and can't tackle it on your own. Either way, you've come to the right place!
Remember to check out How to Do a Wick Check for a run down, and feel free to browse Tropes Needing TRS if you need ideas for what trope to do a wick-check for.
For the list of current and completed projects, see Wick Check Project. Once your wick check is done and ready to go to a TRS thread, see the TRS Queue.
Edited by WarJay77 on Nov 4th 2022 at 11:55:13 AM
#102: Jun 21st 2020 at 8:10:06 AM
I've been wondering a while about whether the non-Japanese sounding wicks to Compensated Dating are part of a problem. Has someone ever checked these?
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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#103: Jun 21st 2020 at 8:25:35 AM
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IDK, but we certainly can.
Hey, ~jandn2014, mind adding your wicks to the sandbox? Just so we have it all together.
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#104: Jun 22nd 2020 at 2:36:16 AM
Well, did that Compensated Dating check myself and got this. 4 or 6 clearly correct examples, 4 that read like misuse, 10 unclear but trending towards correct IMO. Anyone?
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Dghcrh
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from Small country that looks like a fish
Since: Dec, 2016
Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
You can't escape this monster
#105: Jun 22nd 2020 at 3:47:46 AM
Techniqually, both Yandere Simulator entries are correct usage, since they refer to the same character who engaged in Compensated Dating to help her father with his debts.
I'm mainly a fan of underrated media.
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#106: Jun 23rd 2020 at 5:37:08 PM
Done.
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#107: Jun 23rd 2020 at 5:53:58 PM
Alright, with two more wicks added, that ends the wick check.
I want to share this example I found while in the process:
- The Smurfette Principle: Mostly Kirbie, due to her being the only girl aside from Burt and Herby, who are boys.
Who'd have thunk that The Smurfette Principle, a trope about there being one token girl to a team, would apply "mostly" to the only girl (apart from the other characters, who we're helpfully informed are in fact boys).
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#108: Jun 23rd 2020 at 6:01:15 PM
Well, that page looks bad in general.
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#109: Jun 23rd 2020 at 6:06:12 PM
Indeed. I just gave it a good scrubbing.
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from Poland, for real
(Series 2)
Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#110: Jun 30th 2020 at 12:12:48 PM
I've finally finished working on Sandbox.Free The Frogs Wick Check, I hope it's good and it'll be useful. It's good pretty good results, but IDK.
Next page for me, Vampire Vannabe.
Edited by Piterpicher on Jun 30th 2020 at 9:14:01 PM
Currently mostly inactive. An incremental game I tested: https://galaxy.click/play/176 (Gods of Incremental)
#111: Jul 8th 2020 at 6:25:06 PM
So I'm new a little confused on how this all works. Do I only look through to the media pages that have it listed as an example, or do I also look through the trope pages? Because it might be a little more difficult if looking through the trope pages, but not unmanageable.
Edited by Oshawott337 on Jul 8th 2020 at 6:27:10 AM
"Let’s see who’s stronger: someone that has something to protect, or someone that has nothing to lose."
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#112: Jul 8th 2020 at 6:28:11 PM
Basically you just need to look at 50+ wicks (if there is 50 wicks, check all of them if there's 49 or less). The way I usually do this is just by randomizing the list and checking the first ones that pop up, whether it's randomizing a list of numbers or the actual copy and pasted wick list.
But yeah, you'd check 50 random wicks, whether that's examples on work pages, potholes on trope pages, or just random wicks elsewhere.
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from Kyoto, Japan
Since: Oct, 2017
Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#113: Jul 17th 2020 at 1:22:26 AM
I checked wicks to "Billy Elliot" Plot and made a list. Does this look good enough?
Piterpicher
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#114: Jul 31st 2020 at 3:08:11 PM
I've finished Sandbox.Vampire Vannabe Vick Check. I guess the expected speed is one sandbox per month now, but I can still be useful here.
Next page for me, Airstrip One.
Currently mostly inactive. An incremental game I tested: https://galaxy.click/play/176 (Gods of Incremental)
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#115: Jul 31st 2020 at 3:10:49 PM
Both look good, though the "Billy Elliot" Plot needs more wicks.
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#116: Aug 9th 2020 at 11:48:43 AM
Planning on doing a check for Audience-Alienating Premise. Anyone interested in joining me?
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#117: Aug 9th 2020 at 11:52:25 AM
I could help with that.
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#118: Aug 9th 2020 at 2:45:15 PM
Cool. We only need 50 wicks, so we won't need to do more than 25 each, assuming we're the only people doing it.
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#119: Aug 10th 2020 at 7:33:43 AM
Ok, I've completed my wicks for Audience-Alienating Premise. Is there a sandbox I can put them, or should I just post it here?
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#120: Aug 10th 2020 at 10:08:54 AM
Post it here for now. I'll make a sandbox when I'm off mobile.
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#121: Aug 10th 2020 at 10:11:59 AM
The totals are 6 correct (21%), 4 unclear (14%), 11 misuse (39%), and 7 zero-context (25%).
Wick Check
- Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy:
- Compare Angst Dissonance, Audience-Alienating Premise, Sadist Show, and Only the Author Can Save Them Now. From the description. This is fine.
- Wraith: The Oblivion is a game where upon death your soul incarnates in H. R. Giger's worst BDSM nightmare, is taken in by a society whose repressiveness would embarrass a fascist, finds that there is no happy afterlife for him, and then must struggle to survive as a mad force of Eldritch Abominations and their howling-mad servants of Oblivion seek to unmake the world. One source book went so far as to deal with the ghosts born of the Holocaust. The bleakness drove it straight into Audience-Alienating Premise and it was definitely one of the less popular games. This is the game where your character's sweater is made out of the soul of another person who is experiencing And I Must Scream. This looks fine.
- Katawa Shoujo's creators discussed this trope and their efforts to avoid it on their blog. Originally the game included many more alternate bad endings ranging from depressing to absolutely soul-crushingly depressing, but they eventually decided that the game's very premise - a Romance Game where all the character have disabilities - was sad enough as it is, and decided to cut the bad endings down to just one for each route(two for Hanako and Rin). Among the endings cut included several where Hisao dies, ones where Hanako and Misha commit suicide, and even an option to rape Hanako. Emphasis mine to point out the pothole. This one feels kind of iffy to me. Were people really turned off by the premise, or were the devs just speculating that nobody would want to play a VN where you romance women who have physical disabilities?
- GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff.Film Live Action:
- Battleship notably made over $200 million overseas before opening in the US. While the film was largely ignored in America, European markets such as the UK helped it make four times more overseas than it did in the US. This might be because the movie had an Audience-Alienating Premise for Americans: it was based on a board game, and the sheer absurdity of making a movie out of a plotless toy made Americans turn away in droves before it even came out. Outside of the USA, the original "Battleship" board game is either unknown or is known by a different name, so overseas audiences were more easily able to view the movie at face value. Not sure about this.
- The Corpse of Anna Fritz, a Spanish movie about necrophilia with a very limited release, had over 3 million illegal downloads in the Philippines. The filming crew was so surprised by the fan response from the Philippines in social media that they decided to release the film theatrically in this country. Emphasis mine to point out the pothole. It can't have been that alienating if everyone in the Philippines loved it.
- YMMV.The Abandoned Empress: The ending, as explained in Broken Base along with the Late-Arrival Spoiler, caused many a reader to drop from giving the series a chance. The ending is not the premise.
- YMMV.Akibas Trip: This is a game where you defeat vampires by tearing off their clothes. Naturally, this would make some people uncomfortable with it. "Some people"? Is it really that much more hated than your average Panty Fighter game? I don't know, and the entry certainly isn't going to tell me.
- YMMV.American Ultra: The marketing essentially tried to sell it as The Bourne Identity as a stoner comedy, which fell very flat to begin with. And then those who saw it found out that there is actually very little "stoner comedy" in the plot. This is Misaimed Marketing, not AAP.
- YMMV.Aristasia: Aristasia has never been terribly popular online, and never really caught on the way other subcultures (like otherkin, multiples, or soulbonders) did. Why? Well, think about it. An all-female world would appeal primarily to lesbians. Lesbians, though, are often quite liberal, and would shy away from the idea of a world trapped in a pre-1960s reality. Not sure about this.
- YMMV.Black Crusade: Black Crusade is very well designed for what it is, but evil campaigns and interparty conflict are hard to deal with, requiring a good DM and a mature group of players who won't hold grudges in Real Life. Add in the divide between Chaos Marines and mortal heretics, one of which is useless at anything requiring subtlety and the other comparatively useless at combat, and you have a system that is incredibly hard to run as intended. But did the game fail? Without that info, we don't know if it's valid or if it's just one person voicing their complaints with it.
- Website.College Humor: [[invoked]] In the video "Nicolas Cage's Agent
", the titular agent tries in vain to talk Nicolas Cage out of starring in bad movies such as "Puke Bus", "Space Ass", (an all-white remake of) "The Color Purple", "Dick Hole Black Hole", "A Very Pol-Pot Christmas", and "To Kill a Mockingbird" (retold so that the black guy really did rape that woman)". This looks like a valid in-universe use of the trope.
- YMMV.The Dogs: There's...a lot to take in with these books. Zero-context.
- YMMV.The Grudge 2020: The idea of a Grudge movie without the famous Saeki family members and outside of Japan is often attributed to the reception the film got, with some comparing it to a Halloween adaptation without Michael Myers. This is fine.
- YMMV.Lolita Complex Phoenix: It's about a balding NEET wearing a bird's mask fighting actual pedophiles in a city that seems to have given up at trying to combat them. Despite the fact that the manga stays heavy on the comedic side, it's still not hard to be turned off by the synopsis alone. This reads more like Widget Series than AAP.
- YMMV.Mars Needs Moms: The movie's hilarious title is merely the tip of the iceberg, as it is actually much darker than one would be led to assume as it turns out the mothers in question are not just kidnapped, but vaporized for the sake of obtaining their knowledge in raising children; further reinforced by its rather depressing implications, as seen below. The notoriously offputting animation does nothing to help matters. This isn't something you would know before you watch the movie.
- YMMV.Metroid Other M: Early on in the game's development, there were several skeptics against the idea of having a Metroid game with cutscenes and dialogue. Supposedly this was an attempt to appeal to the Japanese audience, a market which historically has had less enthusiasm for Metroid in comparison to Nintendo's other franchises, and who typically prefer linear games with tightly woven narratives over more open-ended, exploratory experiences. It didn't work that well though - while it did okay in Japan, it didn't really outperform previous Metroid games by too much, and it bombed everywhere else. People hated this game for the story it told and the way it handled its characters, not because it's a Metroid game with dialogue and cutscenes. Metroid Prime 3: Corruption and Metroid Fusion have both, and they did just fine.
- YMMV.Nokturnal Mortum: It's telling that newcomers introduced through Voice of Steel or Verity will be a bit unsettled if not borderline uncomfortable at the band's embrace of anti-Semetism during the Nechrist through Weltanschauung era. This is closer to Growing the Beard than AAP.
- YMMV.PEZ: This movie is already shaping itself up to become the next The Emoji Movie!
- To put things into perspective, this movie was actually voted #1 Movie Not Worth Making on Facebook in May 2016. Zero-context, natter, bad indentation, and the main page is a stub for a (presumably) unreleased film.
- YMMV.Point Horror, under Contested Sequel: The relaunch books released from 2013-2014 have been met with a mostly negative reception from Point Horror fans, mainly due to them all being social media themed and trying too hard to seem current with modern readers. Emphasis mine to point out the pothole. Not enough information to decide if it's valid.
- YMMV.Scott Pilgrim Vs The World: According to this article, that is why the movie didn't do well. The emphasis on the problems of 20-somethings alienated people over 30, the allusions to 80's-90s video games and pop culture alienated most people under the age of 21 (who in most cases wouldn't have been born or old enough when the games came out), and Michael Cera was subject of some Hype Backlash thanks to the perception that he'd been playing the same meek hipster characters over and over (a notion that the trailers did little to dispel, heavily featuring Scott's meeker moments and omitting his more jerkass ones). Years after the movie was released, bringing it up on certain platforms is a good way to summon people in their late twenties who have absolutely no interest on watching it because they couldn't care any less about the misadventures of a nerdy Dogged Nice Guy chasing after a girl, finding the premise way too reminiscent of the late 2000s "nerd culture" they would rather forget. This looks fine.
- YMMV.Shigeko Kageyama AKA Mob: What if Mob was a girl? Well her relationship with Reigen would be a lot more codependent than in canon. Mob's one-sided crush on Reigen only gets worse as the story goes on... and Reigen starts to reciprocate on an emotional level. I don't see how a Gender Flip shipping fic can be considered an AAP.
- YMMV.Shining Tears: A good number of fans of the Shining Series don't like this game or the other PS2 Shining games because they changed the style of gameplay from turn based RPG to action RPG. While this isn't a perfect game, (like any other game is), there are people that dislike it for its change in gameplay style and others saying that It's not Shining Force, while others see the game as fun and entertaining despite the changes. This writeup is closer to They Changed It, Now It Sucks! and Contested Sequel than AAP.
- YMMV.The Simpsons S 14 E 9 Strong Arms Of The Ma: The thing most people remember about this episode is that it's the one where Marge rapes Homer. This reads more like a misused Never Live It Down entry than AAP.
- YMMV.Sin Kids AU: It's a The Loud House AU where Lincoln impregnated his sisters. Of course, not that it ever intended to attract a mainstream audience. This is "work has a narrow target audience", not "work's premise is the primary reason it failed".
- YMMV.Tom And Jerry The Movie: The Tom and Jerry shorts are well known for three things: their lack of dialogue, their incredibly fierce rivalry, and the abundance of slapstick present. Naturally, this movie messes with all three of those key elements: Tom and Jerry speak constantly, they are now friends, and there's barely any slapstick involving them. Along with all that, the titular duo end up reduced to sidekicks for a little girl whose search for her parents takes up most of the movie. Naturally, most fans of the duo were not pleased. This looks fine.
- YMMV.Two Car: Despite the majority of the teams having yuri subtext, yuri fans are not very happy that the main team has a crush on their faceless male coach who is gone since the first episode. It gets worse for them when another team has a male crush as well. Are yuri fans the primary demographic for this anime? This could maybe be an example if they are, but I don't know enough to be sure.
- YMMV.Warrior Nun Areala: Part of what prematurely ended two attempts at an Animated Adaptation for Warrior Nun Areala. See Values Dissonance below for details. The "see also" kind of zero-context.
- YMMV.Your And My Secret: The fact it's a "Freaky Friday" Flip where the boy-turned-girl suffers a Trauma Conga Line of abuse, much of it at the hands of the girl who stole his body, alienates a lot of readers. Not sure on this one.
Edited by Serac on Aug 10th 2020 at 12:18:48 PM
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#122: Aug 10th 2020 at 10:37:35 AM
Check looks great ![[tup]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Thumbs_up_emoticon_3268.png "[thumb up]"){kind=small}
Here's the sandbox: Audience Alienating Wick Check.
Edited by WarJay77 on Aug 10th 2020 at 1:39:15 PM
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#123: Aug 10th 2020 at 5:26:38 PM
Ok, I'll add my wicks to the sandbox. Should I keep the color coding?
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#124: Aug 10th 2020 at 9:44:44 PM
If you want.
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#125: Aug 27th 2020 at 7:38:33 PM
Hahaha, this time it is I who forgot to do my half of the wicks!
...Sorry about that; I'm gonna do 'em tonight.
The wicks
- Awesome.The Social Network: "for about a year, the most that anyone knew about this movie is that it's a movie about the creation of Facebook. The majority had little faith in the idea, with many questioning how an interesting movie could be pulled from such a story, and many more outright voicing expectations for it to not just fail, but crash and burn."Seems okay. While it's a pothole, it's describing the audience being turned off by the premise of the work.
- Best Known for the Fanservice: " Can result in Audience-Alienating Premise if it's more than just one or a few scenes." Er...can it? Doesn't this trope rely on people not even seeing the work because of the premise? They'd need to watch the movie to know how many fanservice scenes there are...
- Characters.Sly Cooper Allies: "In-Universe, as people found his art style of "Kinetic Aesthetic" (him painting while swinging on a rope) too weird for their tastes." Misuse, even for an In-Universe case. People thinking an art style is weird isn't AAP.
- Creativity Leash: Just an indexing, and the description on the index is also used correctly.
- Music.Wedding Album: " If anyone wants another reason note why these two should not be married, listen to this record!" Complaining and misuse. I mean...wow.
- Not Screened for Critics: "The Emoji Movie was hit with this, with an embargo placed on all reviews until the film's release date. Given how the film has been widely mocked and criticized due to its trendy subject matter, idiotic premise and wildly-disliked marketing and trailers prior to the film's release..." Super bashy, but I think AAP is used correctly here.
- Polish the Turd: "So you've got the job of producing, managing, or marketing something. It could be a consumer product, an album, a film, anything but whatever it is, it's bad, or at least mediocre. The concept is so fundamentally flawed, or the execution so rushed and so badly thought out, that no one in their right mind would buy it or watch it or read it or listen to it or enjoy it on its own merits." Correct usage.
- YMMV.Afganisu Tan: "Depicting a country that has had a very turbulent history and been associated with terrorism in such a cutesy manner can be off-putting to most. Doesn't help that Osama bin Laden is depicted as a rowdy kitten and the 9/11 attacks that killed nearly 3000 people is equated with Meriken getting bitten on the hand." The premise does seem like it'd be alienating, but...there's no proof it was. It reads like "bad premise".
- YMMV.Assassination Classroom: " Even though the series is a light-hearted sci-fi comedy with a Crazy Awesome Save Our Students plot, it does hinge on a classroom full of kids learning how to kill their teacher with guns, knives, and the occasional explosive. Obviously, it won't fly high in North America and other countries with histories of student rampage. Emphasis on "high": No Export for You has been (for now) averted. Even without the assassination plot, there is the issue of an entire classful of kids being discriminated against by the rest of their school." Does it not fly? I've heard some pretty positive things about it. People obviously like it, and it seems very popular.
- YMMV.Banjo Kazooie: "A big reason why Nuts & Bolts tanked in sales. Many old time fans were either furious or simply turned off by the fact that they were getting a new Banjo-Kazooie game after years of waiting, only for the art style and platforming of the original games to be completely thrown out for a borderline In Name Only vehicle based follow up. And the game's nostalgic factor and unorthodox gameplay had no appeal to a newer audience, especially since the audience in question was now part of the largely adult aimed Xbox 360 crowd instead of the more family oriented Nintendo crowd the original games aimed for, thus ensuring the game would flop." Valid.
- YMMV.CSILPS: "It’s a Cop Show, which are usually marketed at a older audience, but uses Littlest Pet Shop toys." More like Uncertain Audience or just "Weird Premise". No evidence of a failure or that it even turned people off.
- YMMV.Chicken Little: "Disney trying to be Dream Works? Not surprisingly, most audiences didn't buy it." Needs more context. What exactly was it that turned people off, and how do we know it tanked because of the premise and not the poor writing?
- YMMV.Date A Live: "The concept of dating powerful supernatural girls to seal their powers was seen as a turn off by most people in the west, who pegged the series as being just another silly Widget Series. However, this is slowly starting to change as the introduction of Kurumi and Westcott took the series in a much darker and serious turn." Examples Are Not Recent violation aside, this might be valid, though the fact that it's getting better because of something in the work means it couldn't have failed to garner an audience- or else, how would anyone know it's improving?
- YMMV.Exodus Gods And Kings: "One of the reasons attributed to the box office returns or lack thereof was that people simply weren't interested in the story of Moses, a powerful and spiritual tale, turned into another Scott sword-and-sandals battle epic (or just not interested in the story of Moses, period)." Valid.
- YMMV.Final Fantasy The Spirits Within: "An adaptation of a popular RPG video game series, that doesn't actually adapt any of the games' stories or characters? Many people suggest that the backlash wouldn't have been as severe if "Final Fantasy" wasn't in the title." I don't know anything about the games or movies, and this doesn't have enough context for me to know if the premise actually did turn people off or if this is just a complaint.
- YMMV.Goodnight Punpun: "In a post-series interview, Asano admitted that he had a somewhat antagonistic relationship with the readers, and that sales took a sharp decline every time something really dark or upsetting happened." Not AAP; not a premise.
- YMMV.Gotham: "It's a live-action Batman TV show adaptation without an adult Batman actually in it. Several fans and blog articles have also noted that the show must either not introduce popular villains, not have them be villains yet, or not allow Gordon and the cops to fully deal with them as they would therefore not be around for Batman to fight later. Starting in season 2, the show stopped being strict in this regard, showing many iconic villains full fledged and sometimes getting defeated definitely by Gordon or by Bruce in a Kid Detective fashion with Alfred as the muscle. While this meant the show no longer worked as a prequel to the traditional Batman mythos, it gave it a more satisfactory pacing and development that worked as an interesting reimagining of Batman." "Weird Premise", but no mention of the premise turning away a potential audience. Then it goes onto talk about the show improving, which feels like a tangent.
- YMMV.Harry Potter: "A lot of publishers didn't think kids in particular would have the attention span to read something above 300 pages, whereas adults would find the premise to be too juvenile, and would be ashamed to read a children's book." Valid, discussing what the publishers thought would happen based on the premise.
- YMMV.My Mother The Car: "Easily one of the most notorious cases of this in television history." Too notorious for context, apparently.
- YMMV.Repo The Genetic Opera: " It's a rock opera about drugs, corporations, family drama, organ harvesting, and grave robbery. It's also a literal opera, as nearly every line is sung. It features unconventional casting choices such as Paris Hilton and Alexa Vega, as well as directed by someone known primarily for Saw sequels. You can see why critics disliked it... for the same reasons it's a Cult Classic." Clearly didn't turn away an audience, then.
- YMMV.Spice And Wolf: " It's kind of hard to sell a series about medieval economics, which is most likely why the marketing plays up what little Fanservice there is (which also backfired and gave people the wrong impression of the show.)" Context-lite, but seems valid.
- YMMV.Stardust Memories: "This film satirizes Woody Allen fans, leading to...." ...A Broken Base example, apparently. No context here, but if it has a base to break, well...it has fans.
- YMMV.Stealth Symphony: "Two of the reasons why Stealth Symphony had a hard time finding an audience is because of the premise starts off pretty strangely by Jump standards and Narita's fascination with amoral but charismatic killers and the manga's over-the-top violence, which sometimes clashes with the tone of Shonen Jump." Valid.
- YMMV.Tokimeki Poke Live And Twinbee: " A Shonen monster battling franchise crossed with a cutesy Shoujo-like Seinen idol series that's also crossed with two Konami franchises that aren't well known in the West with the characters becoming School Idols alongside the LL! girls. Despite the admittedly weird premise, this unique headcanon AU has it's fans." This is just "Weird Premise".
- YMMV.Victoria: "Neo-reactionary fundamentalists smash all the forces of liberalism, multiculturalism and progress one-by-one, setting up a perfect agrarian-regressive state where everyone is a good Christian, or else. It's not for everyone." And yet, it has an audience. It's a gross work, but it has people who like the premise.
Edited by WarJay77 on Aug 27th 2020 at 11:39:59 AM
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