- Jossed Theories
- Confirmed Theories
- Theories on the Order
- Theories on Team Evil
- Theories on the Linear Guild
- Theories on Divine Beings
- And he'll betray Redcloak before he betrays him.
- Or he knows it and he doesn't really care, so long as he's having fun doing it.
- Considering that Jirix is resurrected every time he gets killed, what would be a better way for him to be Killed Off for Real?
- Yeah, I went there. The Snarl grabbed Loki randomly because he wanted a new plaything, and after somehow performing divine autopsy on Loki without killing him, the Snarl figured out how to make things so he's something that can use those reality threads.
- After collaborating to make Hilgya, the Snarl made the overpowered Monster In The Darkness, an extension of itself although a separate entity, but lost him after the MiTD walked through a dimension door in the Astral Plane into that jungle and hit its head as a newborn. This explains the "daddy ate a lot" comment, because what in the world could possibly eat more than all of existence except a few outer planes? Also explains the shock and awe of the audience in that circus because really, if seeing a practically non-Euclidean deity child doesn't drive you insane, it's quite scary looking. The MiTD favors telekinesis over using its reality threads and claws, because there's less chance of accidentally making way too many more rifts in reality by accidentally clawing the air wrong. It has insanely extreme magical powers reserved for deities and ridiculously epic-level casters, because it IS a deity. With a very high divine rank as it was made as the embodiment of Continuity Snarl itself. As the MiTD is basically a very young child at this point, if anyone infuriates the MiTD too badly, it will become enraged just like daddy Snarl and blow reality up like they just don't care. The Azure City gate, which used to be the smallest, is incredibly huge and swallowing up the sky. Whatever wards Dorukan used which lasted beyond his death which destroyed the gate prevented the MiTD's presence from expanding as the Snarl was trying to find his kid. Girard's Gate will probably explode in volume too.
- It is also worth noting that the Snarl does not understand the ordered system which imprisons it. Any "offspring" would likely have the same problem. Hence the Monster's frequent question "What gate?".
- Actually the MiTD is very likely a Zodar(spoilers), a monster from some obscure sourcebook, which is exactly what the Word of God said. Think about it. They are very strong suits of armor with just two eye slits, they are all muscle and they are very heavy and strong. They also do not speak normally, but it's mentioned that MiTD is kind of an oddball. They can cast a Limited Wish once in their lifetime and three times in their lifetime they can cause any spell to manifest as though they cast it, which what he/it did when it yelled ESCAPE!.
- Actually, it's unlikely the MiTD would waste the Limited Wish and 3 spells in its childhood, as it's obviously done more than that already.
- Zodars look like a guy in black armour. Who the hell would vomit at the sight of it? Why would someone say "I have never seen something like it" at the sight of one? Zodars fail to match the circus scene in SoD.
- Rich has never said that MiTD is from "some obscure sourcebook".
- Zodars are immune to mind-control, and Xykon managed to mind-control the MiTD in Start of Darkness. It's therefore not a Zodar.
- Remember that strip (and the next few ones) where it is said that 4 pantheons originally existed (Norse, Southern, Classic D&D and Eastern, which is just Greek, but in the absence of Greece, can't be named as such) and that the entire Greek Pantheon fought the Snarl, dying in the process ? Well, maybe the whole Pantheon didn't as much as die than just disapear, reduced to a fraction of its immense power, shapeless and clueless. Or maybe they did die, but when the other pantheons restored order to the world, some fraction of the potential pantheon power was restored, unnoticed to the world-making gods. It probably hid/was enclosed someplace, having no-one to talk to untill Xykon stumbled upon it and decided to "subdue" it and use it for its own means, influencing it to become evil and since he had seemingly succeeded, not immagining the potential influence Mr Stiffy could have on its good side.
- In favour of this theory, the MiTD is exceptionally strong, resistent, has powers it itself dosen't understand, is (at least in the begining) partially/potentially evil but also capable of neutral and good acts. Story-wise, a whole fricking Pantheon would make a reveal so awesome that Xykon would keep it as a last resort, quite litteral "Deus Ex Machina".
- Also in favour, the MiTD said that it remembers its dad ate a lot - in Greek myth, Kronos, father of most of the major Olympians (Posidon, Zeus, Hera, Demeter, Hades, Hestia) ate his children to try and prevent them succeeding him. It makes sense that a somewhat amnesiac amalgamation of those six gods might see Kronos as their collective father, and remember that he ate them.
- In disfavour of this theory, Oona gazed under the umbrella and saw the MiTD's true form, which she deems majestic...
- Given the shapechanger abilities of Zeus, it could also be a form assumed by the now growing wiser MiTD to fool any such atempt...
- I think you missed Redcloak's explanation to Tsukiko about what the ritual does. It's supposed to give the Dark One the power to shift the gate to the home plane of the gods themselves, allowing the Dark One to use the Snarl to blackmail the other gods into making goblinoids PC races as well or face annihilation.
- It might not be dragon OR fire type. might just know flamethrower, like it knows earthquake. added with the "My dad was really big and ate a lot" hint, I'd surmise he's almost certainly a munchlax getting almost big enough to evolve; mumchlax and snorlax both have access to those moves, albeit by TM. and given his friendliness to even major villains and his predilection towards finding things, I'd say he has a naive nature and the pickup ability.
- And, when you take into account MiTD's appetite, being a Munchlax would make a lot of sense.
- Snorlax and Munchlax cannot learn Teleport, however.
- They can learn metronome, though, which can imitate Teleport if the plot demands it.
- Miracle can't teleport things to another location on the same plane, only from one plane to another.
- Yes they can. They can "Duplicate any other spell of 7th level or lower" (second bullet point).
- Solars are embodiments of Good. Why would RC recruit one?
- Because this one's an idiot. Also, that would explain why it doesn't like eating babies.
- Solars are embodiments of the plane of good. Idiots or not, they can't do evil, and therefore ratehr unsuited for what Red Cloak and Xykon want him to do.
- Because this one's an idiot. Also, that would explain why it doesn't like eating babies.
- At 28 strength, Solars do not have "great strength" - that's a mere 2 points stronger than Roy
- Depends on your house rules as to whether "Good Acting" applies. Besides, it's not saying that the monster races are the only source of XP — just that the only reason they EXIST is as one of the many sources of XP.
- Roleplaying XP clearly exists in the Order of the Stick universe.
- I kinda get the whole [[Anime/Animatrix Animatrix]] "Second Renaissance" vibe where, despite being presented as fact, it just sounds too... propagandized, to really seem true. There's probably a good deal of truth, but a lot was exaggerated, and some details omitted.
- To me, the Dark One has to be evil- because the only thing that justifies fantasy heroes killing their enemies is when they are evil (or mindless). To think that Redcloak's story is true and humans just started killing goblins for its sake is taking morality issues a little too far (especially for a humorous strip.) In the early D&D editions, it was made clear that monsters CANNOT change their alignment, unlike humans and demihumans; goblins are just born evil and are always evil, which justifies killing them off. I dunno if this applies to the current edition, but it should. Sure, there can be rare exceptions (just as there monster mutations) so heroes cannot have to be careful, but in general, goblins deserve to die; the XP they give is inconsequential.
- And I say just having an Evil alignment isn't enough to deserve being killed if you're not doing anything actively evil. Which is presumably what happened to Redcloak's village: they were all Evil, but weren't doing anything evil.
- And the Book of Exalted Deeds would agree with you. Besides, Burlew loves subverting tropes. Always Chaotic Evil is a trope.
- Or the Dark One used to be just like Redcloak but never had a My God, What Have I Done? Redloak had when a hobgoblin saved his life, as a result he became a Knight Templar, as a result turned the monster races into the Always Chaotic Evil they are now, he enlist Redcloak to fix his mistakes (or finshed what he started aka kill all PC races)
- We know the Dark One's backstory, though, and it's nothing like that.
- Yes because we all know gods don't lie or history is never fudge or anything like that.
- I believe that line of thought is exactly what The Dark One wants to fight, and to change. He understands, on the same meta level that you do, that goblins were made weak and Always Chaotic Evil and thus kan be killed by adventurers without remorse, and that such an arrangement benefits adventurers and leaves all goblinkind holding the short end of the stick. And when you look at it, that's not right. Nobody should deserve to die just because of the way they were born, and the Dark One wishes to change just that. OOTS is not a purely entertaining comic, it has already touched dark themes and complex themes, and I believe this is one of them.
- And I say just having an Evil alignment isn't enough to deserve being killed if you're not doing anything actively evil. Which is presumably what happened to Redcloak's village: they were all Evil, but weren't doing anything evil.
- Perhaps he was telling the truth about the origin of the monstrous humanoids, but unlike, say, the Iron Golems orc fans, the jungle island orcs, or the lizardfolk and kobolds of the Western Continent, he refuses to consider alternatives.
- According to Thor, the Dark One's claims aren't exactly true, but it's understandable that he might genuinely believe them.
- Unlikely, given the prequel comic.
- I think Tsukikko is a more likely contender for The Starscream position.
- Nope, she's dead.
- I'm pretty sure this will happen. The author has clearly shifted preferences from Xykon to Red Cloak, as the latter now sounds smarter and more sympathetic than the former.
- Also, The "monster is charmed into attacking Redcloak if he betrays Xykon" plot point would never have been brought up if Redcloak is not going to betray Xykon. See The Law of Conservation of Detail.
- Order Of The Stick world?!
- Each of them must face the gazebo alone.
- This is actually disturbingly plausible... it would explain why Belkar and Miko weren't able to crack him, it would explain "devouring" as the attack of choice, and it allows Rich to ascribe whatever the hell else he wants to him while still claiming it to be "pre-existing".
- User HotAndCold on the fan forums listed the possible points;-A gazebo is obviously a powerful monster, devouring the story's PC without any chance of rebuttal.
-It takes no damage from a +3 arrow, just as MitD apparently takes no damage from Miko's or Belkar's attacks.
-Would you recognize a gazebo's tracks?
-Or expect to find one in a jungle and even speaking in Common, for that matter?
-It is, of course, a juvenile gazebo, explaining its roughly Medium size, rather than its being large enough for, y'know, people to hang out in it.
-I... guess he could be a particularly ugly gazebo? Although technically speaking, the gazebo's never actually described in the story beyond its dimensions, color, and the pointiness of its top. So I guess one could argue the gazebo's horrific appearance.
-The description states that the PC "awakened" the gazebo, implying that it was sleeping. Perhaps it had recently used one of its mighty and tiring abilities!
-I'm bored and feel like justifying something completely silly!
- And yet, he had to rock his cage to get to the bucket of stew. If he were telekinetic, why not just float the bucket?
- Or they could be played by The Antagonist - the GM's assistant who controls significant opposition NPCs during a campaign.
- At one point, they get to go on a PC-like dungeon crawl in which they clear out an infestation of Good-aligned creatures.
- He'll just probably be defeated with a magic missile.
- Later on, it's confirmed that killing an outsider renders them Deader than Dead. Knowing this, Haley will finally kill Sabine the next time she defeats her. (There's also the possibility that, since, Word of God states that the two are opposites in "a significant way which has yet to be revealed", Haley will be killed off for real as well. This clashes with the idea that Elan gets a happy ending, but maybe he'll eventually grow over it and find happiness somewhere else. However, this part is kind of a Poison Oak Epileptic Tree)
- Outsiders can be Resurrected. Raise Dead specifically excludes outsiders.
- Just checked the PHB: Raise Dead and Resurrection can't bring back outsiders, but True Resurrection can.
- Actually that could make slight sense, he's actually having tea parties just to give the readers a false sense of security and that "Who can hit the lightest" game with Miko was actually him showing off his strength, not being stupid
- Rule of Cool, and it will be a good way to keep him the Big Bad if the party gets too powerful. Though judging by recent events, he's still a little out of their league. It would also follow Rule of Funny, since bodiless talking skulls (Murray, Mort, etc.) can be pretty damn funny.
- Order of the Stick already had a talking skull. That being said, I fully support this theory.
- Howlers have blue eyes.
- Either that, or she was wearing shoes.
- Except, unless I'm mistaken, those sorts of spells won't make someone do something against their nature. The MitD considers Redcloak a friend, and is about as vicious as a Carebear, making it unlikely the spell would work.
- "Monster, if Redcloak ever attacks me, give him a bear hug to 'calm him down' until he is asleep." As in dead.
- He is "the Consequential", after all.
- Maybe he lost weight and became one of the three fiends.
- Specifically, it's an orphaned Grue who was never taught to hate light. Having spent all its life in shadow or darkness by coincidence, should it ever achieve its ambition to be lit up, it will immediately recoil in pain.
- That's a 403.
- Refresh from the URL bar. It worked for me.
- "Near-emotionless?" He sure seems to have the "enjoys the hell out of seeing others suffer" and "really, really pissed off" emotions pretty well covered.
- I said "near" emotionless. And the above gives him the exact same emotional range as Larxene.
- Wait, does this mean his name before he became a Nobody was Kyon?
- He and Haruhi were playing D&D and then he wanted to play Kingdom Hearts and things spiralled out of control from there.
Xykon is getting tired of fighting Redcloak over policy and how to do things. And he's pissed at him for losing his Phylactery. So he's looking for someone else who can figure out the spell he needs for power, so he can give Redcloak the boot down the road. And while the idea may sicken him, he'd have to admit, there's an advantage to giving your phylactery to someone who professes to love undead.
- Also, Xykon often makes comment's about having to show off something to Redcloak. Two prominent examples are when he noted having to tell Redcloak the symbol of insanity worked, and when he specifically sent a note to Redcloak about how he conducted an interview in the middle of a battle. Plus, Redcloak gets away with alot of things Xykon would kill a minion for without a second thought. In general, he's probably the closest thing to a friend Xykon has.
- I'm sorry, you lost me at "Xykon may genuinely care about Redcloak".
- You lost me at "Xykon may genuinely care".
- I said "may".
- You lost me at "Xykon may genuinely care".
- It's already cute.
- ...What? Xykon was thrown into one of the gates. And what does Indiana Jones have to do with MacGuffins specifically?
- Except we saw where Xykon found him, during Start of Darkness.
- Question is, what did he Polymorph into
Keep in mind that this is a black and white image of a creature that could be easily purple and green so some imagination still is needed. Also, there are two ways of looking at this. First, the holes in the darkness are MitD's eyes left blank. This would turn the entire go board into the MitD's full body or upper body. The second possibility when you note the consistent use of perspective is the eye sockets are encased in white. This means that the Go-board, if my memory about what it is supposed to be is right, is only of the MitD's head.
I don't play, nor have I, D&D so I don't know what monsters or creatures are considered canon. Rich did state it was a guessable creature that existed in 2004 and earlier. I hope this can help someone more knowledgeable than I am in this quest to guess MitD.
- Good work there. I think the face is the rectangle with the eyes, down left part the right arm, down right part the belly, and between the belly and the face is the chest, composed of two parts. The rest is background. However I don't know what kind of creature it might be, I know D&D stuff enough to get the comic's jokes but not enough to make a good guess. Still I might add some info: the creature, whatever it is, must have arms in order to push Miko while playing "who can hit the slightless" and also to carry the umbrella, which adds the fact of it having prensile fingers (more proof: it can hold Go pieces and Monopoly money). Going from there it can be presumed to be humanoid, the umbrella can cover the MitD with no problem, and it seems bipedal.
- As an 8-bit spriter, I can say that the full body sprites bear more then a passing resemblance to Classic Megaman's jump sprite. I wouldn't be surprised if that's a hint as to it's physical form.
- Brilliant! Going off of this revelation, my own guess would have to be a giant hand puppet.
- So the MITD is Banjo? The oracle did say that Elan would get his happy ending...
There's also the possibility of Redcloak's niece making Redcloak have a Villainous BSoD when she blames him for the death of her father when he encounters her. Either way this will also be the time when we'll get to see what the Monster in the Darkness is, as it will try to eat Redcloak for disobeying Xykon. Bonus points if O'Chul's words make the MitD fight the charm in order to be what he wants to be and helps Redcloak survive and then both of them fight Xykon together, maybe even with help from the Order in a last battle against the undead sorcerer.
- Tsukiko's discovery regarding the critical spell it's conjuration, so it most likely unleashes the Snarl, if true, effectively kills the plan on the spot, as Xykon (and just about anyone else who could work) doesn't want to destroy the world. It also means that the Dark One lied about the Plan and was actually cutting directly to plan B (i.e. unmake reality and help rebuild it with his terms.) Considering his successes so far, including forming a stable, fully functional and internationally recognized goblin civilization, Redcloak might be rather displeased about this. Combined with something to knock him out of his comfort zone, like meeting Right-Eye's daughter, and Redcloak could very well walk out of the whole thing.
- Except Tsukiko got the context of the spell wrong, and Redcloak not only knew about it all along (Hell, he's been actively lying to Xykon about it), but it doesn't affect his own efforts for goblin equality at all, so this isn't going to knock him out of his comfort zone. Given recent revelations, it's entirely possible that even if/when Right-Eye's daughter does show up, it won't be enough to convince Redcloak to abandon the Plan.
Because otherwise I can't see why Richard would put those Chekhov's Guns in the first place. Anyone wants to debate?
- Xykon's charm command could just be him being Genre Savvy. Right-Eye's daughter, on the other hand, is an obvious Chekhov's Gun.
- Hunter's reaction is a bit of a weak link, given most of them do speak, though doing it in "common" would be a surprise.
- Would explain the audience at the circus's reaction (A big step under a Seraph's "cause people to burst into flames and die", but still warranted with some descriptions in the book)
- God sends them to destroy cities, so they should be quite strong
- Depending on the writer, they do reproduce, so the dad comment works
- Would explain the MitD's naive but overall good nature.
- Redcloak knows what it is. Given he has alreddy made use of the real deal of something in place of fantasy versions (elementals) once. Also would be covered under a know skill that is a class skill for clerics.
- Easily fits into public domain.
- This would also explain how it knows of the Astral Plane, even if it cannot remember being there: It was BORN there.
- Tsukiko kills him for turning on Xykon
- The MitD's mind control forces it to kill him
- The Dark One performs a Villain Override via the Crimson Mantle.
- Atropals are undead. They don't eat while MiTD loves to eat.
Admit it, it would be totally cool: in the moment when Redcloak betrays Xykon (when the Plan gets carried on), he will take off the patch and say "Damn, I was fed up of this stupid patch", and by then Xykon will realise the size of his folly in trusting Redcloak's plan. Then, either Redcloak manages to pull off something that destroys Xykon (and the Monster in the Darkness attacks Redcloak due to his betrayal of Xykon), or Xykon could attempt to kill Redcloak but then the Dark God saves Redcloak by taking him away or by using something similar to Thor's Thunders to destroy Xykon. Alternatively, Xykon could get killed by the Snarl.
Xykon knows full well what Redcloak is planning to do with the Gate, but Xykon is fully confident that the Dark One's plan won't work because it basically relies on blackmail and a constant threat. Since the Snarl is basically dormant (and Xykon is fully capable of flying and seeing what was inside the rift; Redcloak isn't) there's no real danger of opening a Gate onto the realm of the gods. He's going to wait for Redcloak's plan to fail, call him an idiot, bully him into being properly loyal, and use the Gate to control the real world by tossing ordinary humans into God-knows-where. It doesn't actually change his plans if the world on the other side of the Gate isn't actually dangerous as long as he knows it can remove them from their lives and possibly their chosen deities.
- Jossed. Rich Burlew has said he has already planned the reveal of MiTD
- When he was being destroyed by the Gate rune, maybe he got a glimpse of the planet beyond. "Hey, this isn't so bad" may have simply been him realizing that the Gate didn't contain a god-killing abomination — it contained an entire world for him to conquer.
Redcloak's major ace in the hole is that he knows something about the gate ritual he's not telling Xykon and he plans to use it against Xykon once the ritual is complete. Xykon, however, had a chance to figure out how much Redcloak was actually telling him, though - Tsukiko. He made sure his half of the gate ritual got to Tsukiko then sent the MiTD to tell her it's only half a ritual knowing she'd seek out Redcloak's half. He then sat back and watched how Redcloak would respond to that; when Redcloak killed Tsukiko that told Xykon Redcloak was hiding something. This would explain why Xykon wasn't at all upset at Tsukiko's death - By getting killed she told him more than she ever could have realistically figured out on her own.
Throw in a "dramatically smashing Xykon's phylactery" scene, and the circle will be complete.
- Though given what Xykon did to the MITD, namely cast a Suggestion that will cause him to eat Redcloak if Redcloak betrays Xykon, Xykon might give a Meaningful Echo of his own "Oh Redcloak, don't confuse not caring with not knowing" line.
- Suggestion's effects aren't permanent, and that was years ago. Unless Xykon's been recasting it on a regular basis that's highly unlikely.
- Xykon had enough forward thinking to get the positive energy ring. He'd probably find a sufficiently permanent way of enrapturing the MITD.
- Suggestion's effects aren't permanent, and that was years ago. Unless Xykon's been recasting it on a regular basis that's highly unlikely.
- Had everything gone as Xykon thought it went, the phylactery would be in the astral plane, where the heroes can't yet get to, and in the middle of a probably epic-level dungeon, and the heroes would be none the wiser. However, because Redcloak switched the symbols, now it's with Redcloak, where it is much less protected, and it's also exactly where the Order of the Stick thinks it is.
- So did you just skip over #60, or...?
- No I had forgotten enough details of 76 to pretend it could be another false alarm.
- There were a couple of goblins serving "hydra burgers" at the Gobbotopia founding celebrations.
- Alternatively: Xykon will remember Vaarsuvius, but pretend that he doesn't. Acknowledging V would mean acknowledging that the elf has hurt him in ways the others haven't.
- Bear in mind that Redcloak is a negative energy cleric, and sooner or later is going to be high enough level to rebuke/command Xykon...
- It's mentioned in the only sourcebook that ever went into any real detail about liches that one of the advantages of lichdom is fast level gain. Liches never have to sleep, never have to eat, they can just sit in their studies perfecting arcane arts... forever. Or fly across the countryside sweeping towns with Cloudkill for the XP. Xykon could quite easily get even further ahead of Redcloak whenever he feels like it.
- I'm thinking Xykon, upon finding out these guys are trying to play him, will invade the netherworld and nuke them personally.
- or leeky and pompey
- Already confirmed by Word of God in the commentary from Don't Split The Party. There is one side we don't know about yet (or didn't know about at the end of the book).
- Let's see... sides that will probably be involved:
- The Order of the Stick (obviously)
- Xykon (again, this seems obvious)
- The Linear Guild (another obvious one)
- Hinjo's forces (not definite, they're friends/allies with the Order, so those two may be a single side)
- Girard himself (...if he hasn't been confirmed dead)
- Redcloak and an army of Goblins & Hobgoblins (seems reasonable that he'd split off from Xykon at some point)
- Tarquin and his army
- The other nobles of Azure City
- The Flumphs maybe?
- (Sorry, breaking the nine) But may I add the archfiends?
- Let's see... sides that will probably be involved:
- I don't see this one happening.
- And the strip when they come in will be called Dungeon Crawlin' Fools.
- Alternatively, maybe the ritual that moves the Gate will be weaponized for that purpose; Xykon retreats to his massive astral-plane stronghold, and either Redcloak or the Order or both decide they've had enough of his shenanigans and unleash the Snarl inside his fortress.
- In addition, Redcloak will offer to perform a True Resurrection on her son.
- Its purpose is literally to eat the entire world (albeit small portions at a time), which would easily translate into a voracious appetite (and explain how the MiTD can eat things like moldy cheeseburgers without suffering any ill effects).
- Its carapace reflects spells and is obscenely difficult to penetrate by normal means: of course any attack directed its way would just "tickle".
- The Tarrasque has a long list of effects it's immune to (poison, disease, inclement weather, etc.) and is resistant to virtually every kind of damage: while the adult Tarrasque can't be charmed, the MiTD is still young (probably... being only Medium when the adult is Colossal would tend to imply it's an infant) and might be vulnerable to mind effects.
- Though created for destruction, the Tarrasque is True Neutral.
- The Tarrasque is a Single Specimen Species, which makes it hard to find any more anywhere.
- The adult Tarrasque is an Epic-level challenge, absurdly so in later versions.
Xykon has constantly demonstrated a love of causing pain and suffering. He has cited his main motivation for his evil deeds as his own amusement. What better way to amuse himself, cause so much pain and commit the ultimate act of sadism than just unleash the unspeakable god-killing abomination on the world?
- As others have theorized, he may be aware of Redcloak’s intended betrayals, and it doesn’t matter because using the Snarl to destroy the world (or at least enabling it and thus being responsible for its destruction) is his entire goal anyway.
- Most of all, it’s the simplest way to get what he wants, which is a cure for his boredom, victory over his enemies, and pain and suffering for him to enjoy. It lines up with his characterization perfectly.
- That’s why he’s so chill about the fact that there’s only one Gate left to stop everything from going into the shitter for everyone, including himself. Because even though he wants to control the Snarl to destroy everything (which explains why he’s even bothered trying to use a ritual in the first place, he’s fine with it as long as his actions eventually lead to the world’s destruction.
- Xykon may also be banking on being powerful enough to survive it. Thor mentioned Xykon has a hidden fortress in the Astral Plane, and the monument graveyard shows the Snarl can't reach that far or the monuments would be destroyed too. Xykon may set the end of the world in motion then simply retreat to his astral stronghold and watch everything be destroyed on his Tivo while laughing, then be given a whole new world to torture.
- This could also be why he's keeping Redcloak busy or distracted - Xykon has been shown to hide brilliance behind his lazy facade before, and he knows that in keeping Redcloak away from the Godsmoot he can prevent anybody from figuring out how important Redcloak actually is, increasing the chances that the world is destroyed.
Redcloak will betray Xykon and be eaten by the Mit D, but he will pass the crimson mantle onto his niece as a ghost, just as the previous high priest did with him, and then she'll close the rifts
The Dark One will engage in some off-screen negotiations with Thor without Redcloak's assistance. It will probably start with The Dark One attacking Thor, under the idea that Thor prevented him from learning about the Godsmoot. However, it happens, The Dark One's first personal message to Redcloak will be to give up on The Plan because it its objective has been achieved - full equality for goblins with other humanoids recognized by all the Pantheons.
Because this occured without him, and without him using Xykon, Redcloak will not accept it. He will twist reason and logic to argue that The Dark One, patron god of goblins, has given up on the goblins, and so he will have to become a god himself in order to ensure The Plan is a success. That is when the Fiend Council will arrive.
They will offer him a deal much like they did to V, power in exchange for certain control of his soul. They can't turn him into a full deity, but they will assure him that he will be close and in the perfect position to gain worship. They will make him into an arch demon/devil/daemon/etc. who will then make infernal pacts with mortals. If he makes enough, he might be able to become an evil god.Just to screw with him, the pacts he makes will be with those who are self-righteous enough to delude themselves, or gamblers fallen prey to the Sunk Cost Fallacy. So his fate will be to tempt people just like himself into selling their souls, but he will keep telling himself that it will all be worth it once he is a god and able to protect all goblins, as is the goal of The Plan.
- The Warg reveals he was confused by the smells not going in, and rushes in to tell Team Evil. Still not conclusive on whether it's Jossed or not.
Trying to get a grasp on what she's saying (she was using a weird metaphor), Redcloak asks "So you're worried that at some point, the goals I've been working toward might be incompatible with… what? My own ego?"
She replies, "Oona never said she was worried. Oona is pretty sure she knows what little caped man would choose."
Note that she does not say which choice she thinks he'll make.
- Mi TD will lose his magical shadow prematurely, pissing off Xykon, but will be covered by Scenery Censor.
- Xykon will fall apart like a pile of bones he is, but only briefly, immediately reconstructing himself afterwards.
- Red Cloack will come off from the Redcloack, and it'll turn out he's heavily brainwashed in a subtle way, noticeable only by contrast. Naturally, he himself will be horrified, but will have to put the cloack back.
Xykon uses a ton of magic items, but one of his most important is the one that makes him immune to fire damage, as it allows him to spam his fire spells, often at point blank range. The Disenchanters will drain its enchantment off, and either he realizes it and thus knows he can't use some of his favorite spells as freely as he likes (which might make him even less composed than he normally is), or he won't realize it (possibly due to having so many he can't be sure which ones got drained) until he tries to use one and is damaged by it, cluing the Order into the fact he's no longer immune to fire.
The Mit D debuted in the Dungeon of Dorukan. Maybe the final, fiercest guardian of Dorukan's Gate was supposed to be an enslaved god and Xykon thought that kind of loot was too good to pass up. This could explain how Redcloak can't contact him.