- This is heavily implied to be the case in Amazing Spider-Man Vol 5 #74; Mephisto's impetus to cause OMD to happen was a vision of his invasion of New York being defeated by a version of May.
Related to the above, May Parker may still be alive. In fact, it's implied that she hasn't entirely been forgotten, in the Gold Goblin series. It's a little bit of a stretch, but bear with me.
especially since he's got Red Goblin formerly psychologist Ashley Kafka (who may have got all his sins) tormenting him to break him, and the old Green Goblin persona in his head.
One of those torments? In his metaphorical bat-cave, someone scrawled a whole list of his victims - including the name 'Peter Parker' over and over again.
So far, so moderately interesting. However, what really, REALLY interests is me is one name on the list of sins.
'The Baby'.
Now, we've got a couple of candidates for who this could be.
One is Stanley Osborn, who was assumed for a period to be Norman's son by his son's girlfriend, Lily Hollister. Turns out, nope, he's the son of the Harry clone. It's unlikely to be him, as he's been featured a few times, he's named. He'd be named on the list. Also, he's not a baby any more. Unlikely.
The second? That's much, MUCH juicier: Mayday Parker. While we only saw her grow to adulthood in the MC 2 continuity, she WAS born in the 616 continuity. She was stolen, her death faked, shortly after birth and she was last seen with Norman, who handed her back off to Alison Mongrain and told her to dispose of the baby on the way to Europe. In MC 2, she didn't, instead returning the baby. It's not inconceivable she was kept here.
Alternatively, a darker possibility is that he killed her, as the Scorpion implied back in the first Marvel Knights: Spider-Man series. While he said 'unborn child', implying he caused a stillbirth, and that comment was from a) someone not renowned for being all that bright, b) someone was Norman Osborn's latest puppet in his latest scheme to screw with Peter.
Why do I think it's her? Because she was never named, outside of Peter and MJ. No one knew what she was called. Norman, or whoever's tormenting him (I'm guessing Red Goblin or just his Goblin personality) wouldn't know what her name was. Hence why he calls her 'the Baby'. Why the guilt if she's still alive? He ordered Mongrain to dispose of her, odds are good he believes she's dead.
And that really would be the straw the broke the camel's back. I genuinely think that Peter might kill him for that, if that was the case, if he ever discovered the truth. If it's the former, if she's still alive... well, it could be part of Norman's attempts at redemption.
Deadpool and Squirrel Girl both know that they're in a comic (Though the latter is contractually obliged to not acknowledge it outside of recaps) and they are both Ensemble Dark Horse fan favorites. It stands to reason that they'd have a grasp of continuity and know when retcons and such happen. Deadpool has been known to have fits of heroism, and might see fit to want to do this one for the fans. Squirrel Girl, being the upbeat, Silver-Age heroine she is would definitely want to bring Spidey back to his moral roots and undo the Broken Aesop. Unfortunately, she can't acknowledge in-continuity that she knows about it. This is where Deadpool comes in. The way I see it, he's wandering through Central Park ranting about how stupid One More Day was, wondering how he can possibly best Mephisto. Tippy Toe happens upon him, and drags him towards Squirrel Girl. After an awesome but pointless fight, Deadpool convinces her with Tippy Toe's help that together they can get Mephisto to undo his massive misdeed. Deadpool and Squirrel Girl then go to whatever hell dimension Mephisto lurks in, kick the crap out of him and force him to undo the events of One More Day.
- And hire Kid!Loki as their lawyer because neither of them is good with legal-eeze and he technically still owes Spidey that favor from Amazing Spider-Man back in 2004...
- Unconfirmed. Sales are dropping and many, many fans still consider BND to be the Audience-Alienating Era to end all Spider-Man Audience-Alienating Eras.
- Maybe Mephisto will get his sorry behind handed to him then snatched away at the last minute as in "Here you can have it back"...Pulls away hand.
- If you like making fun of Joe Quesada, it's the best thing that ever happened to you.
- Alternatively, May Parker, Peter and Mary Jane's daughter who was spirited away and pronounced "dead" at the end of the Saga, would be appropriate for many of the same reasons. As well, she has her own comic, the Alternate Continuity Spider-Girl, and her own small-but-hardcore fanbase, who would probably look well on her being acknowledged in the "real" Marvel Universe.
- Yet another possibility is that they'll both come back, and the storyline will be an explicit sequel to the Clone Saga; the trade paperback collection will be entitled Spider-Man: Attack of the Clones.
- Also, as established in the JMS run, Loki owes Spider-Man a favor.
- Loki's a kid for now, but he's been known to screw over Mephisto in deals before. Kid!Loki might have to play lawyer soon. The Spidey comics can't take much more of the hate!
- Easy. Harry Osborn himself made a deal with Mephisto for an "ideal life" with money, social status, and friends. Yes, his dad is a major pain in the ass, but when Harry died, he thought Norman was dead also, so he had no reason to factor that in.
- Or "Mephisto" is some other demon who took his place. In Legacy of Doom, "Mephisto" had no problem selling out Morgan le Fay, which broke a deal the real Mephisto had made with her earlier.
- Because Everything Needs More Deadpool. And he can break the fourth wall, so he knows everything that's happened, and he just might be able to beat some sense into Spidey.
- Also, to throw off people from his secret identity, Peter would often speak against Spider-Man, irritating Flash, who is Spider-Man's biggest fan.
- This has already been proven true. Flash more or less said so himself. Peter even roomed with Flash for a short time.
- Flash was also the best man at Peter and Mary Jane's wedding.
- It would make more sense if Mephisto used his power to make them useless, and mess with Peter so it wouldn't raise any brows. I mean c'mon, bullet wound/poisoning/old age can't be cured in Marvel Universe? What?
- Dr. Strange is a Time Lord, and weren't there Spider-Men visiting Dr. Strange while Peter was recovering from his search? Why would Mephisto make that?
- Well duh, he is! He announced it at a press conference and everything! What? What's with the funny looks? What, you think I'm crazy too! I remember it, dammit! Why can't anyone else remember? Why can't anyone else remember?
- Layla Miller can remember.
- Yes, but rumor has it she knows what the hell Deadpool's talking about with all that "panels" and "issues" stuff. Girl's loco.
- Layla Miller can remember.
- Wasn't it Ben something?
- Parker being Spider-Man was just a rumor that started when Parker dressed up as Spider-Man for Halloween and was later spread around by that Venom creep. I mean, would the real Spider-Man honestly show his face in public?
- Wait, so if the photographer for the Bugle is Spider-Man, then the photographer for the Planet must be Superman. Jimmy Olsen must be Superman!
- No wait, I just remembered about Peter Parker winning a Pulitzer Prize for taking a picture of the Sentry. This means The Sentry is Spider-Man! Also have you ever seen the Sentry and Superman together?
- Guys, stop being ridiculous. That Parker guy's just a kid. And he's already said he and Spider-Man have an exclusive deal and they've appeared in the same place before. Besides, Spider-Man's black◊.
- Wait a second. Those eyes don't have pupils. And his face just looks so, well, artificial. Does this mean... Spider-Man is an Auton!
- Guys, knock it off with the crazy. Next you'll be telling me that Bruce Wayne is Batman, or that Clark Kent is Superman!
- Bruce Wayne can't be Batman! His voice isn't scruffy enough and his chin is too small! Next thing you know you'll be saying Oliver Queen is Green Arrow (anyone with eyes could see the GR's beard is 5.3 millimeters shorter than Queen's).
- Okay, tiger, since you're so smart, answer this for me: If Peter Parker is Spider-Man, who's holding the camera in all those Bugle pictures of the web-head that credit "photo by Peter Parker"?
- Any decent camera has a time delay feature, and the type used by professional photographers will have a feature that lets them automatically take photos at regular intervals. Peter just has to set up the camera in an inconspicuous spot and make sure he's in frame at the right time.
- That's all bullshit. Spider-Man is really a giant media whore who takes pictures of himself in heroic poses and gives them to Peter Parker. Parker gets paid for the photos by the Bugle, and has a nice rep for his skill at getting excellent shots, so he has no reason to rat out Spidey's grandstanding.
- You're all being ridiculous. Peter Parker is Devil Dinosaur! Everybody Knows That!
- Guys, guys, why do you all think Spider-Man is a nobody? Ever thought maybe he's a celebrity? An Asian celebrity? Like Jet Li?
- Don't be ridiculous. Look, here they are standing side by side!
- Personally I think Spider-Man is just a split persona of Bernhard "Buddy" Baker I mean, what other adult male can summon spider powers at will? Have you ever seen Spider-Man and Animal Man in the same place?
- Confirmed in Amazing Spidey issue 601, actually.
- What do you mean? I've read it and... well, what does she know? What did she offer to him?
- It just looks like she knows that Parker is Spidey, as she shows by the end of the issue while watching news on TV. But what do you mean by "obvious"? Did she offer Mephisto the chance to make Peter save the day every time he and MJ promise each other a date? That is, the fact Spidey had to save the day is Mephisto's doing or what?
- That idea has so much potential for sequel/retconing OMD/just generally fucking with Pete's life (Mephy showing up, undoing the mind whammy on spidey, and introducing him to his little girl, all grown up. Who is a bloodthirsty spider-themed demon from growing up in hell. )
- As an additional guess, Aunt May will die, but in a manner not related to Mephisto. Instead, her dying will make the deal null and void, allowing Peter and MJ to hook up again.
- Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man Vol. 2 #1 reveals Aunt May has Cancer
- "One More Day" is already over. It was the story arc that set up the new status quo (the pilot for it, you might say), which began with the arc "Brand New Day."
- Apologies, I was thinking of Brand New Day as an extension of OMD. That BND was the ONE more day given, though lasting much longer than one more day. So my hypothesis stands true. The status quo of OMD/BND will end when Mephisto pulls the rug out at the end of the brand, one, more day Peter was given.
- Norman makes some kind of deal with the Red Skull in the 2009 Cap Returns series. Hard to not see this ending up as one of his bigger regrets. Still, even Axe-Crazy Harry never would—I think.
- Except if Peter DID say NO, that means that Mary Jane didn't try to re-hook up with him because she is a bitch! Or that she really wanted to rest from being married. Or that she doesn't actually know.
- Hell yes it'll work. This is Peter Parker.
- Rubbish. Norman Osborn taking over H.A.M.M.E.R. is actually a giant plan of Doctor Doom's to utterly destroy Reed Richards, and Osborn is cooperating with him for the chance to screw with Spidey. Doom is using the same time-hopping doodad he used to fight Richards way back when Sharon Ventura was the She-Thing, and has been popping into the past and screwing up the timeline to leave gaping holes in the memories of everyone inside the Marvel universe, which causes them to make decisions and hold opinions that seem totally illogical to us. Doom thinks that if he can make everyone look dumb enough, it will cause Reed to have a psychological meltdown in the manner of Frank Grimes. Because come on people, I find your lack of faith in the human race disturbing. The people in this universe may be morons, but they're not so criminally, colossally moronic that they would actually support Osborn while having the same memories of him that we do! That would just be stupid!
FACT: In One More Day, Peter Parker makes a bargain with the demon Mephisto to save his Aunt May's life at the cost of his marriage. Reality is rewritten so that Peter and Mary Jane never married and are currently broken up.
FACT: For some unexplained reason, in the rewritten reality, most of Harry's friends have vanished. Flash Thompson has returned to being the bully who makes Peter's life miserable. And for some strange reason, Harry Osborn is alive and well.
FACT: Events in general seem to be geared toward making Peter's life as comically, unbelievably horrible as possible. He can't get a job. His roommates hate him and/or Spider-Man. Aunt May marries J. Jonah Jameson's father. Jolly Jonah becomes Mayor of NYC and immediately sets about making capturing Spider-Man priority one for everyone. And Norman Osborn - despite being publicly known as The Green Goblin - has become head of the national agency in charge of monitoring/commanding all the legally-operating superheroes in the United States.
A lot of fans don't think ANY of this makes any sense. And it doesn't. Peter Parker - written properly - would never make a bargain with The Devil because it was easier than dealing with tragedy. It doesn't make any sense for Harry to be back from the dead because of Peter's bargain. And known-murderer and lunatic Norman Osborn being appointed to a national agency, much less being beloved by the public REALLY doesn't make any sense...
...unless this is all part of Norman's wish.
Would Norman make a literal deal with the devil to get power and a chance to cause as much chaos as possible by jacking around with the superheroes? Yes.
Would Norman make a literal deal with the devil to bring his own dead son back to life? Probably. Crazy as he was, he was always depicted as being a loving, if distant, father (with the crazy tending to get in the way as well).
Would Norman make a literal deal with the devil to make Peter Parker as miserable as possible? Hell yes!
That's the idea: Mephisto went to Norman and offered him a chance to have all the wealth, power and prestige he always wanted. He even sweetened the deal by offering to bring Harry back from the dead AND by fixing it so that Peter Parker would be made as miserable as possible by the new world that was created. Making Peter believe he'd be responsible for his own problems was just the icing on the evil cake. You can even bring in the 'Mephisto kept Peter and Mary's child to raise as his own' and 'Spider-Man and Deadpool' team up suggestions above.
- Oh man, you beat me to the punch. But this all started in Civil War. Norman Osborn made a deal with Mephisto then, which influenced Peter to reveal his identity, which resulted in Aunt May getting shot, and you know the rest. And the "Mephisto/Osborn kept the Parker baby" makes sense, and could become a major turning point for Spidey come Siege, if he discovers Little May in Osborn's grasps. It could result in a mirror of "Spider-Man's last battle" in Marvel Comics 2.
- My god if this is true that would be.... epic. QUESADAAAAA!
- Why would Norman remove his own knowledge of Spider-Man's secret identity?
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It's magic, it doesn't have to makeEither that was part of the price for the deal with Mephisto??one Osborn decided he could live with, or could somehow figure his way out of with the power ofhearthate??or it was a "fine print" detail that Mephisto slipped into the deal to screw with Osborn (as would be apt for a deal with the devil). - If Norman Osborn made this deal during the Civil War, then superhero registration would have been on the table. Osborn is sufficiently intelligent and in the know to have realized that Captain America's rebellion wouldn't take. This would result in the creation of the superhero database...which Spider-Man would be entered into. Osborn probably assumed or explicitly stated that his deal with Mephisto would involve him usurping Tony Stark and taking charge of said database, so even if Mephisto took away his knowledge of Spider-Man's civilian identity he could just look him up once he took over Tony Stark's position. In fact, looking up Spider-Man's identity in the database is one of the first things Norman Osborn does during the Dark Reign arc, which only backfires because Stark pulls a juvenile prank on him and destroys the database.
- Pre-BND Norman has rather proprietary feelings about his nemesis — or rather, his status as Spidey's nemesis, as amply demonstrated by the fact that he never revealed Peter's secret identity in ... what, ten-plus years, in-universe? It would be perfectly in character for him to arrange for Peter's re-masking so that he could have Spidey all to himself again. It would also be perfectly in character for him to get sloppy and leave a loophole for Mephisto to make him forget as well, just to screw with him.
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- Being always broke was a major part of the early Ditko-era Spidey stories.
- Yes, but that was generally because he had to pay for web-fluid. Since he has organic shooters in the films, he doesn't have this problem.
- Things are more expensive nowadays.
- And even before the spider-bite, he and his family had money problems. That's why he took the wrestling gig— even though at that point he was still using
stolenborrowed lab equipment from his school lab to make web-shooters, thus paying nothing for them.
- Yes, but that was generally because he had to pay for web-fluid. Since he has organic shooters in the films, he doesn't have this problem.
- Because he doesn't work for Iron Man, but he may if he will join the Avengers.
- The spider ATE PETER! DUDE, THAT IS FUCKED UP but creative and does make sense.
- Played with in Spider-Ham, where Peter Porker used to be an ordinary household spider, until May Porker got herself irradiated an bit him in blind rage, thus turning him into a Ham with spider powers... So yeah.
- Either that, or Spider-Girl pretty much tells Mephisto to give back what he took from the 616 versions of her parents after talking to Magus. Who knows, OMD and BND might've been unnatural in the first place!
- Or Retcon. Everything else about Spidey's past was reversed with One More Day, why not Gwen's death as well?
- Word of God is that, for legal reasons, Spidey can't be in the Avengers movie. They're in separate continuities.
This obsession eventually gets hold of the fuel (property) and the apparatus (government). There is no respect for the effect this will have on the environment, cities, and human lives; it is a system that must be implemented at all costs, including the lives of innocent millions. Just as the initial tests went, however, there is no way to control the system (the markets) sufficiently and still bring about the desired results (prosperity for all). Having a change of heart, there is a call for outside help, so in the end, a Red-White-and-Blue American hero sinks the whole operation. For now. In the next one, he’ll be having to face an internal conflict.
- That actually makes sense. Erm... What about Foe Yay? Can Harry count as a... If that is the case then... You know, he'll stop being a jerk.
- I wonder what will Deadpool say about it. "So that BND-thingy made Andrew out of Tobey?! Why?"
- Then WHAT THE FUCK DID STATIC SHOCK GIVE UP? (Word of God states that Static is a young Spider-Man with electrical powers, so I do consider him to be DC's Spider-Man)
- Jossed by Spider-Man: No Way Home. Tobey and Andrew's respective Peters are indeed from separate universes.
- Fortunately, he's a comic book fan, and his imagination is running wild.
- So what - Spider-Man and MJ have two daughters? What?!
- Wait... Could this girl be that lost child? Just how much time had passed between Mary Jane being pregnant and OMD?
- Also works for Thunderbolt Ross. Both middle aged men, both in high authority, and both want to kill one of the world's most beloved superheroes.
- OK, this troper now really wants that happen. That sounds like a great gag to include.
- Neutral: Ben's revival will jab OMD and he will question Peter on how things would have been if he had made a similar deal.
- Confirmed.. ish... depending on what you meant. He was lost, cure attempts and flash backs eventually brought him back. Now he's trapped in the Lizard's body as of ASM 699.1.
- Debra Whitman: Tires hard to invoke the Nerds Are Sexy Trope, presumably so that she's "on the same intellectual level" as Peter or some such nonsense.
- Mary Jane: Has a tragic past involving her father (really, couldn't even make it the mother? Or another authority figure?), that really doesn't come off as being as bad as Mary Jane's was.
- Gwen Stacy: being the "perfect girl" for Peter, being idolized (this time by people in-universe, as opposed to in fans' memories). Fans hope she will complete this set by dying.
- Black Cat: Inverted, Black Cat fell in love with Spidey, she's fallen for "plain ol' Peter Parker"... Just like Mary Jane did.
- And, this will be followed by the second (or a later) film being a slight adaptation of the clone saga, compressed into only one film, and make way for future love interests and a believable love triangle. Black Cat anyone?
- ...During which they'll gather a small band of heroes, and form a new Avengers team. The Damned Avengers sounds pretty cool, and each will've been somehow effected by Mephisto or someone similar, resulting in them teaming up and taking him on all at once. Also, Mary Jane will shoot a demon in the face, just because.
- To answer this point update... Hmm. My personal take on who I'd want to see in this kind of adventure—Wolverine and the Hulk (in a Shout-Out to when these two, together with Spidey and GR, briefly formed the New Fantastic Four), and quite possibly Blade as well. Alternatively, She-Hulk could take Hulk's place—we'd need at least one action-oriented chick on the team. As for Mary Jane shooting a demon in the face... would it be any less awesome if said shot-in-face demon was designed to look like Joe Quesada?
- Oh, and to add to this, as has been mentioned above and elsewhere on this wiki, Deadpool, Squirrel Girl and Loki should get in on the action as well, since all of them know they're comic book characters. And since Loki owes Spidey a favor from an earlier comic adventure...
- To answer this point update... Hmm. My personal take on who I'd want to see in this kind of adventure—Wolverine and the Hulk (in a Shout-Out to when these two, together with Spidey and GR, briefly formed the New Fantastic Four), and quite possibly Blade as well. Alternatively, She-Hulk could take Hulk's place—we'd need at least one action-oriented chick on the team. As for Mary Jane shooting a demon in the face... would it be any less awesome if said shot-in-face demon was designed to look like Joe Quesada?
- Returning to the original idea for this particular WMG, just last night I (the original poster) actually thought out the potential calling-out scene between Spidey and Ghost Rider. After coming home one evening, Peter finds the flame-headed anti-hero waiting for him in his living room. Ghost Rider then proceeds to chew Peter a new one for allowing the Deal with the Devil to go through (yeah, you have SOME PEOPLE who'll say it was retconned that Mary Jane made the deal over Peter's objections), giving a clearly-outlined "The Reason You Suck" Speech that mirrors the fans' and writers' displeasure with One More Day and the events leading up to it. (Incidentally, the confrontation will be a Shout-Out to the "Ignition" storyline in The Flash, where Batman confronts Wally West about the Laser-Guided Amnesia that Wally asked The Spectre to pull on the world to make everyone forget he was the Flash—following Zoom's attack on Linda Park that resulted in their unborn twins being miscarried—and the subsequent arc that led to Wally and Linda reconciling...essentially, that story was One More Day done properly.) And part of that speech, as thought out by me:Ghost Rider: Whatever happened to "with great power comes great responsibility," Parker? Did you decide to throw that moral lesson away the moment you decided to go through with that deal? You know what I see when I look at you just now? I don't see a noble soul who I could say I was ever proud to have allied with in the past—I see a selfish little punk who'd rather flee the consequences of his choices instead of facing them as a man with a backbone ought to. By your actions, you've not only condemned an innocent soul to non-existence, but you've also condemned several existing souls to be under Mephisto's thumb, to manipulate as he should see fit just inside the letter of his word. Your Aunt May. Your friend Harry Osborn. Mary Jane. Yourself. Need I continue?Spider-Man: (how I imagine Joe Quesada would attempt a Shut Up, Hannibal!) You're one to talk. As I recall, you also went into a deal with Mephisto for a loved one's sake.Ghost Rider: Yes. I did. And seeing as you know about that, I would expect you would realize what such a deal would lead to. I would expect you to know better. Evidently, I was mistaken about you.
- YES! That is exactly what we need! I really want to get into comic writing JUST SO I CAN PUT THIS IN! I don't CARE if Joey Que tries to stop me! I'LL DO IT DAMN IT! Exbanding on the above moment, (Sorry if I end up hijacking your idea, but this is what my mind thought up after reading that) after GR leaves, Peter, trying to take his mind of the subject, goes on a date with Carlie Cooper. At which point, Deadpool, who's on a date in the same restaraunt with some random person (Either a hooker, a transvesite, an unatractive woman, or a blow up sex doll. depending on which'd be funnier and more in character), tries to say hi to 'Spidey and Mary Jane', until he realizes that its not MJ. He questions what happened, at which point when he brings up that they were once married, HE TOO GIVES HIM A DRESSING DOWN after realizing what's really happened when he does a quick Wikipedia search on OMD. During this rucus, Squirrel Girl will notice and ask what's going on. When she finds out, she proceeds to also give him a talking to about the subject. When Carlie objects to this, she storms off. Later, Carlie Cooper attacks Mary Jane, reveals herself as a shape shifting MALE demon with the ability to control a person's perception, hoping to kill MJ to avoid Mephisto's plans being unserped. During the fight, Deadpool, Squirrel Girl, and Spider-Man show up and get pwned, causing Mary Jane to use Deadpool's gun to shoot the demon in the face, which had revealed its true form as a Joe Quesada look alike. Because of this, Peter and Mary Jane regain their memories fully, and remember their love for each other. Peter tracks down Ghost Rider, appologizes for being so stupid, and he agrees to help him. They gather a small band of heroes, and the whole group, including Deadpool and Squirrel Girl, go to find a way into hell: Bifrost. With Loki's help, they travel to Mephisto's realm, and promptly defeat the demon overlord and get the chance to undo it. BUT, to stop Joey Que or anyone else from interfering, Mephisto makes a catch: If they undo it all, everything since will be undone. Harry, Captain America and Aunt May will die, again, Tony Stark will become a Nazi once more, and Loki will return to his former, evil self. BUT, Loki will point out a loop hole, that they only sold their marriage, NOT their love. And as such, they're able to reunite, so long as they don't ever marry. Since Joey Que only hates marriage, he'll have no reason to object, and as such the Spidey relationship will be intact. I've actually thought of a scene or two for this.
(When he goes for Ghost Rider's help:)Ghost Rider: You sure you want to storm hell itself, attack Mephisto in his home turf, and undo the mess you made?Spidey: I need to take responsibility for what I've done. And if that means go on a suicide mission into hell, then so be it. I already got a few people who want to tag along.Ghost Rider: What made you see sense?Spidey: I realized I'd been sleeping with a demon that looked like some hasbeen fanboy. And, a very convincing skeleton on fire.Deadpool: So, how exactly do we go about, invading hell?Spidey: I have a Norse god of mischief who owes me a favour and is trying to find redemption. Could give him a call.Mary Jane: Well then. (Cocks a shotgun) Let's get this show on the road.- Alternatively, something in-universe happens to point out to Quesada that the world doesn't revolve around him, marriage existed long before he did and will continue to exist long after he's gone, that just because he hates marriage (due to his own marriage failing) doesn't mean everyone else in the world does or should, and the story will reflect that, in that either the marriage will be restored, or Peter and Mary Jane will remarry without ill-consequence. (To the last person to respond, sorry for the slight editing adjustments to your post, by the way.)
- No problem, can't tell any difference. Either way, OMD is undone, Joe Quesada looks like an idiot, and we all get to have a story arc of total win. Alternatively, Marvel's new top dogs will realize the loss of sails following OMD and all the other crap Quesada pulled, fire his ass, he'll get hired (And then screw up) DC who then fire him, and he gets blacklisted from comics as all his changes are undone/ignored. Just like Chuck Austin.
- Wait, Carlie Cooper just broke up with him and it looks like Mary Jane and him may be getting back together. And the psychic blindspot thing just broke down because of Spider-Island. Gentlemen, if things continue this way, we may be able to see this, or a similar story, actually being printed.
- Relatively new comic book reader here, but to add to the "Carlie is a demon theory," Lost Girl has given me the idea that Carlie could be revealed as a succubus, either created or sired by Mephisto. Mephisto altered the memories of Carlie and her family, making them believe that they were her parents and vice versa, and as a succubus, it would explain the otherwise unfathomable praise people give her. Additionally, to add to the ultimate battle with Mephisto, other participants could be Doctor Strange, Daredevil, and Silver Surfer. The former two have fought Mephisto before, and Mephisto debuted in an issue of Silver Surfer. This will result the New Avengers and the Defenders to get involved in the battle, because Spidey will need all the help he can get, and Red She-Hulk could substitute for Hulk to maintain a possible reference to the lineup of the Fantastic Four with Spider-Man and Ghost Rider. Since Magma of the New Mutants recently went on a date with Mephisto, she should show up, presumably to either persuade Mephisto to restore the marriage or to turn Magma and Mephisto against each other. Because this will result in the undoing of One More Day and will bring the Brand New Day era to a close, I suggest that the story be called "The End of Days."
- Or, just to rub the salt in the wound further, Mephisto should be defeated by Squirrel Girl. Because why not.
Mephisto: You think you can defeat me, child?
Squirrel Girl: Hey, I've beaten Dr. Doom and Thanos before. And I'm a cute little girl who uses squirrels to fight.
[elsewhere, Dr. Doom and Thanos get individual chills as they suspect that some unpleasant person somewhere has mentioned their names]
Mephisto: [seeing the above reactions through his ability to recline on the fourth wall] Oh, NO.
[curb-stomping with cute squirrels ensues]
- A) It's Hannah Marks, an actress cast as the role of a film original character who has a crush on Peter, and that that was just a Michael Bay style Misinformation campaign, since a Google search of the actress shows her to be a Hollywood Homely at best.B) An unannounced actress, possibly to hide the stinger.C) Emma Stone with red hair, with the joke being she's playing both Gwen and Mary Jane, resulting in a very odd situation.
- MJ will appear, because the film will likely spawn a trilogy. Trilogies mostly follow a traditional three act structure, where the second film has a downer ending and the third a happily ever after ending. Therefore, Gwen will die (because she always dies) at the end of the second film. However, MJ will be introduced in the third so we can have an implied happy ending to the series as a whole. Marc Webb's distaste for Manic Pixie Dream Girl characters will at best mean that she is portrayed slightly differently. If nothing else, Executive Meddling will require that she appear both because she's the most well-known Spidey girlfriend and because The Death of Gwen Stacy is such a popular story that they'll want to fit it in somewhere.
It'll turn out that it was really Joe Quesada or as he's known in the Marvel Universe as Rumplestiltskin. 'I stole a baby, how more evil can you get'? Spidey, Ghost Rider, Deadpool, Daredevil and Mephisto will start kicking his ass with Mephisto performing the killing blow since the heroes can't be expected to. And so that Joe Quesada can never pull off another One More Day he'll also die in Real Life on the day the issue comes out. Everything goes back to the way it was before the deal with Spidey reaping all the benefit. There, I just saved Spider-Man. You are welcome.
The reason Spider-Man is around is because he is the son of the original Spidey. The "reboot" is really a prequel about the first Spidey, who existed along with other Marvel heroes. However, when the government cracked down on heroes, he lost an arm, was forced into the witness protection program, and Gwen, who had just given birth to his son, died. He was just able to name his son after himself, and give him to his brother Ben. Peter's new name? Curt Connors. He chose this name because he remembered him as a mentor and a one-armed guy. "Curt" became a top-class scientist, but he knew that Spider-Man had to return. So, when his son was 17, he CREATED the super spiders. He set one free on purpose and made it bite his son so Spider-Man would return.
Well in one trailer we saw what appeared to be a funeral with everyone wearing black. He could die like he did in the comics, just with Lizard taking the place of Doctor Octopus.
- Confirmed.
Since Sony does own the Spider-Man franchise, and they rebooted it, They should make one of the sequels where the two different Spider-Men meet. It would make a good movie in, my opinion. Which will be like the Spider Wars.
There's several layers to this popular fan theory:
1. Getting other people to stand in for him is what Kingsley is most famous for.
2. His identical twin, Daniel, is still alive and is a wimp.
3. During Big Time, Kingsley was being subservient towards the Kingpin, something the real Kingsley probably wouldn't do, given their history. Daniel, however....
4. During the sequence where Phil Ulrich kills Kingsley, we never see him with his mask off. It could be anyone, especially since Kingsley once brainwashed another character to be the Hobgoblin...
5. If Kingsley set this up, it fits his character far more than what we're shown in the book. Coming out of retirement years later, after Osborne got taken down and the Kingpin's returned to prominence, faking his death would be the perfect way for him to amass power from behind the scenes.
6. The 'goblin in this story never displays any goblin powers. While Kingsley possessed them, Daniel (and Ned Leeds) didn't.
7. The Kingsley Roger Stern wrote wouldn't go out like a chump the way this guy did.
8. Solicit info for the upcoming "Danger Zone" arc (which some sources called "Hobgoblin Inc"), feature the following quotes: "Hobgoblin is back...but his days may be numbered as the past sharpens its blades." and "GOBLINS GO TO WAR...and Peter Parker is caught dead-center!". The cover even shows two Hobgoblins!◊
- Confirmed!
- Good one, except it's Spidey's standing with the public that's more likely to be in peril. Too many other heroes have had the old bod switcheroo pulled on them to not believe Spidey's story, barring an OMD-style injection of a Death Star-sized Idiot Ball.
- May Parker is an Unwitting Pawn, host to a demon. The demon is why the constantly dying May Parker hasn’t passed on(well, that and Death Is Cheap), and is using her to falter Spidey’s morals. The demon? None other than Mephisto. He’s using her to control Spider-Man, with the ultimate objective to fully corrupt him enough to sell his soul to him.
- May Parker was Evil All Along! She keeps getting herself in danger to become a Living Emotional Crutch to Peter Parker, keeping her to himself. She’s somewhat savvy or just willing to take a risk in knowing she’ll somehow survive. She knew about One More Day, using it eliminate May. [[Yandere That way, Spider-Man shall be all to herself.]]
- A bit of both. In one of her deaths, she Came Back Wrong, becoming a corruptor to Spider-Man.
- Supergirl was fifteen when she started out.
- She often feels her powers are a burden and she just wants to be normal◊, but an older relative instilled a sense of responsibility in her.
- She worked as a photographer for a while.
- She doesnt' always get along with the cops.
- She is a Deadpan Snarker. A big◊ one◊.
- Her college boyfriend was a redhead.
- A metropolitan newspaper conducted a smear campaign to ruin her reputation◊ for a while because of a journalist who had an axe to grind against her.
- She has been cloned several times.
- One of her clones tried to take over her life, but they managed to get along◊.
- She has zero luck at the love department.
- She has some traits in common with MJ, too: She starred in a soap opera, took Psychology classes, and got killed because several editors and creative types blamed her for the decline of the franchise.