- And Rip can't stand him, especially since Booster is his dad.
- If he does show, since Ray in the Arrowverse is a composite of the Atom and Blue Beetle, they'll get up to doing Justice League International-style shenanigans, complete with "Bwah-Ha-Ha"s and all.
- Or maybe he'll just tell Ray he reminds him of his old friend Ted.
- Finally happens at the end of season 7.
- Confirmed, Ronnie is confirmed to have died in the Flash Season 2 opener.
- Or Malcolm let her get dunked so Oliver and the others leave him alone.
- Ironically, Arrow S 04 E 03 revealed that Nyssa is completely against the idea of resurrecting Sara due to her being dead so long. Malcolm does it, not to make them leave him alone but to make Thea happy.
- Confirmed. Behind the Scenes news states that Sara will have lost her humanity and possibly have her own plot to try and regain it.
- Heatwave is somewhat redundant since the team already has Firestorm.
- Alternatively he won't be up to playing the hero as much as the others and is kicked off the team.
- To the dismay of all Heatwave fans, confirmed as of 'Marooned'. Then immediately subverted.
- And then inverted in the final two episodes of Season One. Cold is the one who gets killed off and whose death leads to Heatwave becoming less abrasive towards the rest of the team.
- Calling it now, the LSH one is a Poorly Disguised Pilot.
- Confirmed for The Justice Society and Jonah Hex, the rest have yet to be seen- though a few members of the Legion have appeared on Supergirl.
- Jossed. Mick Rory and Jonah Hex are two separate people.
- Jay Garrick with a Race Lift. Garrick's helmet appeared through a time vortex in the Flash's season finale, possibly confirming that he's a) in existence, and B) a time traveler. The use of his own first name is to prepare people to call him Jay, while still maintaining some anonymity.
- Jossed. Jay Garrick appeared in Flash season 2, played by Teddy Sears.
- Wally West. He's already gotten a Race Lift in the comics and his family has in the show, the name is alliterative in both cases, and it can be argued that Wally is actually more famous than Jay. They concealed his name because West would be a giveaway, and Wally wouldn't be much of an improvement in terms of keeping up the mystery.
- Jossed: Wally will be in Flash season 2, played by Keiynan Lonsdale.
- A fusion of Jay Garrick and Wally West.
- Jossed, those two characters do not merge.
- The new other half of Firestorm. Possibly Jason Rusch since they've recasted before. But maybe a new character.
- Confirmed.
- Vandal Savage. Nowadays it's widely believed that the earliest humans were from Africa, explaining the Race Lift.
- Played with. The two flirt regularly until, in the episode Destiny, the two end up kissing while Cold sacrifices himself, before White Canary starts dating Ava.
- Confirmed in the pilot.
- Rip mentions him in the pilot, making this even more likely.
- Confirmed, he's Savage's pupil and pawn at the time he rises to power. He's not time traveling though.
- Potentially confirmed, Rip mentions "Men of Steel dying and Dark Knights falling." in the new teaser.
- This would no longer be an issue now that the Supergirl universe merged with Earth-1.
- Ray has now discovered that the Supergirl of Earth-38 (and alternate but identical Supergirls, such as that of Earth-X) looks exactly like his own cousin (as an amusing nod to the fact that his actor took over the role from Christopher Reeve as Superman, whose cousin was, of course, Supergirl.
- And now, Ray has even met his identical but Kryptonian self, as the Christopher Reeve Superman who he shares an actor with is now officially one of the alternate universes in the multiverse (potentially several).
- This would no longer be an issue now that the Supergirl universe merged with Earth-1.
- He is beginning to transition to more of a hero. Mick called him out on it in "Star City 2046."
- Confirmed. The Leonard Snart of Earth-X is called Citizen Cold. The Earth-1 version of Leonard Snart never did, however.
- It will be revealed that Rip either deliberately or accidentally inspired the creation of Doctor Who during a trip to 1963.
- Because if you wanted Firestorm, recruiting Martin without Ronnie would be a stupid thing to do.
- Suprisingly discussed but ultimately jossed. Martin thought they might want his scientific knowledge, but ultimately he was recruited together with Jax.
- Different possibilities include:
- Being allied with Vandal Savage.
- Being Vandal's right-hand man.
- Being behind Vandal Savage.
- Actually BEING Vandal Savage himself.
- Probably jossed. Vandal Savage is cast as a different actor.
- Being a separate major villain unaffiliated with Vandal Savage.
- Being the real Big Bad while Vandal Savage is actually Good All Along (or at least a Well-Intentioned Extremist), in a case of Adaptational Heroism.
- Zigzagged. Rip Hunter is a rogue hero, who stole his own ship when leaving the Time Masters, and breaking their rules to stop Vandal Savage who the Time Masters have secretly been working with...
- Confirmed. He shows up in the final moments of Season One, warning the rest of the team not to board the Waverider.
- Despite being a LOSH villain, he's also mainly affiliated with Time Travel and is a true Time Master himself.
- He was probably deemed so dangerous, the Time Masters thought the only way to defeat him was to send him back in time and trap him in the Eternity Glass.
- In order to make him less OP, perhaps he will serve as The Dragon to Season 2's villain, only for him to become The Usurper and take over as Big Bad, ala JLA Adventures: Trapped In Time.
- They could also introduce the Eternity Glass from that film as well in Season 1, to hold back his powers until such time as he does take over and in essence make himself and the Eternity Glass Chekhov's Gunman and Chekhov's Gun respectfully to pop up again in Season 2.
- Although he was mainly a LOSH villain, Time Trapper actually did fight the Super Friends at one point, and was a major player in Final Crisis: Legion of 3 Worlds.
- The creators could toy around with the idea of Time Trapper actually turning out to be a future version of various other characters sprinkled throughout the show, and the most prominent theory is that he's a Valeyard-esque, aged Rip Hunter.
- To play with this, the Time Trapper's identity could be a different person each time. Due to the actions of the team. Yet, has the memories of every person s/he is/was.
- Zaman Druce will become the Time Trapper. The explosion of the Oculus didn't kill him, but sent him to the End of Time.
- Alternatively, Time Trapper could be a personification of time itself, able to perform Grand Theft Me on specific beings, explaining how he could have multiple aliases. The Eternity Glass could still be a Restraining Bolt but in a more sinister light, given the standard attitude of the Time Masters Council. He could even be a Godzilla Threshold thanks to the actions of Rip Hunter and the Legends, giving the Time Masters no choice but to unleash something so powerful to possess one of their own and take the team out.
- The Eternity Glass could be an alternate means for someone (in this case the Trapper himself) to screw around with the time stream, so it acts both as a MacGuffin and a Villain-Beating Artifact.
- Confirmed! He appeared as the main villain of Barry Lyga's middle-grade Crossover Crisis trilogy of novels, with the largest presence in the Legends book. Still jossed for the show itself in the first five seasons.
- Unless they're in the same universe.
- They're alternate universes, as shown in The Flash, but this would be a good reason why Earth-1 doesn't have a Supergirl or Superman that we know of.
- After the Crisis on Infinite Earth, they're now in the same universe.
- Jossed, Ray and Kendra dated instead.
- Slightly Confirmed. He will reincarnate but not until Kendra dies.
- He had Joe Chill killed before he could murder Thomas and Martha Wayne.
- The Wayne Tech seen in the future newspaper seen in The Flash is run by a Bruce Wayne who never became Batman.
- He prevented Steve Trevor from crashing down in Themiscyra.
- He sent an interstellar message with all the information needed to prevent the destruction of Krypton.
- Potentially confirmed, Rip mentions “Men of Steel dying and Dark Knights falling.” in the new teaser.
- Alternately, they've yet to appear.
- Jossed. Nobody actually succeeded in seducing her. She was Firestorm.
- Confirmed as seen in "Blood Ties".
- Gideon will gain a robot body resembling Mekanique.
- Green Arrow (William)
- Black Canary (Oliver and Laurel's daughter)
- Hawkman and Hawkgirl (actual bird-people)
- The Flash who's one with the Speed Force (Barry Allen or Wally West)
- Red Arrow (Thea Queen)
- The Atom (Adam Cray, Ryan Choi, or Rhonda Pineda)
- Assuming she doesn't get back together with Nyssa, she could end up being another love interest for Sara.
- Sort of confirmed. Cassandra Savage only appears in one episode, but the team manages to convince her to help them against her father.
- Probably not. Cisco was recently confirmed to be in the show. The first trailer actually showed Oliver and Barry assembling the team. Barry and Laurel will also be in the show, and Laurel was "killed" and Barry would have no way of getting back.
- Officially jossed. Oliver has appeared, proving this is still the same timeline.
- In the pilot the team do go back to St. Roch University in 1975 and meet Aldus Boardman...the rest mentioned didn't happen, though. He most likely recorded the tape long before they arrived.
- The team is the Arrowverse version of the Forgotten Heroes. In the comics, Rip Hunter was a member and they were banded together initially to defeat Vandal Savage.
- It seems plausible, since "River of Time" confirms that at the very least, the Time Council has been in cahoots with Savage all along.
- This is doubly plausible when you think about the fact that none of the team are actually present in the current events of Arrow or Flash which they should be. That's at least what Rip fed Palmer. They would handle their mission and then pop back mere minutes after they left. Clearly THAT didn't happen.
- I thought the baby in the picture was darker then both parents. I assumed that he was adopted. It is possible that Kendra was a widow who was married prior . Then after her husband died she met Carter who revealed their backstory.
- Possibly confirmed when Savage came across Kendra who was pretending to be married to Ray and did not seem to be surprised to see her with someone besides Carter. Seeing as he has come across her countless times before it would make sense that Carter and Kendra had partners before their Awakenings and even children with other partners before meeting up.
- Possibly jossed by the flashbacks of "Progeny," although "The Magnificent Eight" confirms that Kendra has had romances with men other than Carter, so maybe not.
- Perhaps while fighting Savage the team meets Lady Blackhawk, who asks for them to take her to the present.
- Partially Confirmed. none of the above actually happens, but the team manages to intercept Vandal Savage during WWII during the first season finale, where he is attempting to acquire the original meteors responsible for his and the Hawks immortality. This leads to a three way battle between the Legends, a squad of German soldiers, and a contingent of Savage's army that he had brought with him from 2166.
- Partly Confirmed, Partly Jossed. [[Horus wasn't from Thanagar, but the meteors that gave Savage and the Hawks their immortality were actually pieces of Thanagarian technology sent to Earth in advance for a future invasion.]]
- Confirmed. Mick knocks out Ray and takes his place in detonating the Oculus...And then Snart knocks Heat Wave out and takes HIS place, ending up being the actual one to detonate the Oculus.
- This is definitely a possibility following the events of the episode "Destiny"
- And immediately confirmed in the following episode, where Savage reveals that they are Thanagarian technology, and as a result of their contact with the meteors, Savage, Kendra, and Carter all have Thanagarian DNA in their system.
- This is definitely a possibility following the events of the episode "Destiny"
- The main piece of evidence for this is his use of flint knives, which ties him to the stone age, rather than an age where metalworking was often used.
- Unable to kill him, the team will be forced to trap him in the time nexus that they used to hide from Chronos.
- This theory is complicated by the fact that Savage has been shown absorbing the life force of the Hawks onscreen.
- He could still gain some magical power from them through the ritual, it's just not tied to his immortality.
Or Vandal was already immortal before the business with the Hawks, and because of it his immortality is now tied to them.
- Jossed. In an epic move, Kendra, Sara, and Mick kill Savage in three time periods simultaneously, killing him permanently.
- Jossed
For example, The Flash or a member of Team Arrow, since Vandal Savage doesn't first encounter them until 2015. And hell, if they want to go further than 2016 into the future, they could even get Roy Harper, who Vandal Savage has never met at all.
- The producers have said Hawkman won't reincarnate until Kendra dies, which judging from The Flash, could be a while. But BTS pictures and some of the actor's instagrams/twitters tell us that Carter IS coming back but possibly won't remember Kendra.
- Confirmed in "Leviathan". The team travels to 2166 to stop Savage just days before he completes his world conquest, and they do meet Carter's next incarnation, who was brainwashed by Savage and works as his adjutant.
- Possibly after his grandfather, Jonar?
- "The Magnificent Eight" implies he was named after Jonah Hex, as Rip felt guilty about leaving the 19th century and abandoning Jonah and a whole town to be destroyed.
- Jossed.
- Confirmed. And since timelines resemble each other...
- Jossed. No sign of William.
- Jossed his older self is played by Ben Lewis in Arrow flashfowards that started in season 7.
- Jossed. Connor Hawke is actually John Diggle Jr.
- Confirmed.
- Maybe he'll be played by Kyle Gallner.
- He actually said 136 years, which would be 2151—but still very close to 2166.
- Original Theorist: Then, 15 year old Eobard will appear. He'll probably be a sociopathic teenager.
- As a version of Inertia possibly?
- Jossed and Confirmed. Jossed for Hawkman, although his 19th-century incarnation is mentioned by his secret identity's name, Hannibal Hawkes. Confirmed for Hawkgirl, since the one who actually mentions him is an unnamed older woman who happens to be Kendra's 19th-century incarnation.
- Confirmed. Hawkman's seat remains empty for the remainder of the season. But after Vandal Savage is killed, Both Hawkgirl and the reincarnated Hawkman retire from the team to try and live a normal life now that they don't have to fear being hunted down by Savage. Later, several new crewmates are accepted over time.
- Ancient Egypt, Where It All Began for him, Kendra and Carter.
- London 2166, Where It All Began not only for him and Rip, but also for the series as it was the opening scene.
- The Stone Age, a Mythology Gag since he is a caveman in the comics.
- 2016, Where It All Began for both the series and the rest of the characters (sans Rip).
- The '90s, because everybody loves this decade.
- 1912, just so they can make another Titanic (1997) Actor Allusion for Victor Garber.
- In the Time Portal, crossing different time periods along the way ala Final Fantasy VIII. Not only because of Rule of Cool, but it make sense considering the Time Travel theme of the show.
- Space. I'm running out of ideas here, but who knows?
- Actually, the final battle takes place in three time periods simultaneously: Sara and Firestorm fight him in 1975 (immediately after the auction in the pilot in fact), Heatwave and Atom fight him in 1958 (after the car crash at the beginning of 'Night of the Hawk'), and Rip, Kendra, and the reincarnated Carter face Savage in 2021.
- Possibly, after the team defeat Savage for good.
- Confirmed. The Time Masters have been in league with Savage from the very beginning.
- Trying to kill Savage in his Egyptian past without packing advanced future weaponry to do it despite having centuries of advance time to do so.
- Recruiting a Ragtag Bunch of Misfits consisting of Arrowverse B-players on a mission to kill an immortal would-be conqueror.
- Convincing the team to get on his side by twisting back and forth about whether they're legends or forgotten while initially lying to them about his status with the Time Masters.
- Either not knowing or not caring to tell the gang that only Kendra could kill Savage until Carter has already tried and lost his own life for it.
- Incapacitating and impaling Savage yet not bringing him to the ship for Kendra to kill himnote and instead leaving him alive to recover for a decade and set out on a path to create a Soviet Firestorm.
- Having Sara and Kendra train to balance their warrior and human sides by fighting each other only to ice them while leaving their teammates out to dry in Moscow, then turn around and give Sara a contingency order to kill a teammate on the ensuing rescue mission while still icing Kendra until her and Jax's protests.
Long story short, as a captain, this man is blatantly in over his head at best. Now this might be the whole point of the story, and Rip is easily not the only character on this show to choke the Idiot Ball on a number of occasions, but again, he and his Gideon AI recruited this team as well as set the tone for them running around haphazardly through time. And sure, the occasional naive error is entirely possible. But when the mission has devolved into a comedy of errors to the point the team finds itself celebrating managing to not screw up the timeline worse in episode 5 and had to defy his orders to even accomplish that, when logically they should've been able to end Savage numerous times already, it starts to get a little suspicious.
However, we know from the Book Ends of episode 1 that Vandal killed Rip's wife and son and Rip was heartbroken about it. So there's no way Rip Hunter in his right mind would ever work with Savage. Double however, as has been established by The Flash, there are ways of taking on someone else's appearance.
That brings us to our theory: Rip Hunter was body-snatched, killed, or otherwise taken out of play and replaced shortly after mourning his family's murder by someone who is working with Vandal Savage. This person is deliberately using Rip's appearance and motive of grief to commandeer a time ship and mess with history just enough to enforce the timeline where he conquers the world in the 22nd century under the guise of trying to stop it.
"Trying to kill" Savage back in ancient Egypt but without taking advantage of infinite future weapons at his disposal established the legend of the "garib" which helped Savage gather his cult. Assembling a team instead of "going rogue" by himself ensured that his machinations to help Savage's conquest could be disguised as simple mistakes. Making this a B-team full of clashing parts while deceiving them about aspects of their purpose was a way to ensure early screw-ups. Acting against the Time Masters in the process ensured that the team would have an extra obstacle in their path adding to their woes. When "errors" didn't come naturally from the others he made sure to produce them himself with moves such as blatantly trying to keep teammates out of the Moscow mission.
Going by some of the speculation in the Adaptational Villainy WMG above, this person could be either a minion of Savage, an ally of his, or The Man Behind the Man. The former is unlikely, as anyone competent enough to see this plan through would naturally have issues acting as just a lackey to Savage. The latter is a bit more likely, but enforcing a time loop where Savage conquers the Earth is pretty limited reach for what a mastermind acting above him could do with a plot like this. The most likely option is easily for this person to be a co-conspirator, who gains some sort of opportunity from Savage's rise to power. This co-conspirator might also be a Treacherous Advisor, with no interest in prolonging or extending Savage's rule, only in establishing it. The most likely party for this? Eobard Thawne.
1) For those who haven't seen The Flash season 2 episode 11…the title is "The Reverse-Flash Returns", and it turns out Eobard Thawne still exists due to time remnants of the Speed Force protecting him and linking him to the timeline. Considering all the implications that Thawne and Barry fought each other across several different timelines, not the least of which being Thawne's own knowledge of future history, it's entirely possible that he and Vandal Savage would've met at some point, and that the time remnants still cover that.
2) Rip uses a Gideon AI just like Eobard did in The Flash season 1. It may or may not be the same one; however, we know from The Flash that Barry was the one who created the first Gideon. It would be awfully convenient is something Barry created, that his worst enemy hijacked for his own purposes, also just happened to be duplicated for use by the Time Masters, characters who Barry has never been implied to have any ties to. Which is what Gideon's presence aboard a time vessel is supposed to indicate at face value.
3) According to Rip's protestations to the Time Masters, he makes the case that the conquest of Vandal Savage will essentially end the timeline. However, the Time Masters themselves consider it to be part of the natural flow of time—implying that there is a Stable Time Loop involved—though their knowledge that they or any of their own has anything to do with it is probably limited, given that they frequently try to stop Rip anyway. Furthermore, one of the things Eobard would typically say when he killed someone is that they've been "dead for centuries"—implying that he somehow knows the Arrowverse has more than 200 years ahead of itself, as he would have no reason to embellish or lie about something like this to someone he just killed. Savage's conquest takes hold in 150 years. So implying even to the Time Masters themselves that the end of the world is nigh because of Savage's rule is kinda BS. And Thawne is an expert at BS'ing people when he needs to. Sure, it's implied that Rip lied because he wants the crusade to be taken more seriously than just his vendetta, but again, with the allies and resources and time at his disposal, save for the frequent Plot Induced Stupidity it should've been done by now.
4) As evidenced with Harrison Wells, Thawne is not only a superstar at playing the Long Game and pulling off a Dead Person Impersonation to advance his goals, he has the device to steal someone else's genetic code in order to Kill and Replace them. Perhaps a future Savage helped him get that technology, plus some sort of method to reverse it and regain his own appearance, and in return he used it to help ensure Savage's rule? As for why he would bother using the ship to travel through time instead of using his speed to do it; not only is it part of the facade of being Rip Hunter, it helps him conserve his Speed Force energy since he obviously needs to do so. And impersonating Rip is easier than impersonating Wells because there's no personal life to overlook since Rip was a Time Master who just lost his family in a conquered and ravaged world. Assuming being Rip counts as having happened "before" being Wells in Thawne's existence, his success with Rip probably helped convinced him he could do Wells and, he probably forgot to account for certain details as Wells because he "didn't" have to as Rip.
- Thoroughly Zigzagged. Rip Hunter is himself and is not working with Savage. The other, not rogue, Time Masters are the ones enforcing the Stable Time Loop leading to Savage's conquest.
- Project Svarog (Soviet Firestorm, possibly Valentina Vostok), equivalent of Firestorm
- Chronos, equivalent of Rip
- Mr. Blake, equivalent of White Canary, may be called Catman like his namesake in the comics.
- Someone with reverse-engineered Atom technology, possibly able to grow instead of shrink, equivalent of Ray Palmer,
- Someone with reverse-engineered cold gun, equivalent of Captain Cold, OR If Heatwave survived the end of episode 7, Savage may very well recruit him
- And the final battle comes down to Savage and Kendra.
- Confirmed that a group, the Legion Of Doom, forms to fight the Legends. Jossed that it was formed by Savage.
- Unlikely, given that in this timeline, neither Kendra nor Carter returned to 2016. Granted, its possible that Carter reincarnated at some point and so ended up becoming Hawkman during the intervening years, but its a long shot at best.
- Connor Hawke's mother is Mari McCabe. It may seem crazy, but both the Flash and LoT featured crossovers with Diggles this week, while Arrow featured a crossover with Vixen. Coincidence?
- Connor Hawke's mother is Carly. Perhaps Andy dies again as a result of HIVE, but rather than focus on his brother's death, John is able to build a working relationship with Carly.
- Seems to be Jossed by Flash episode "Paradox" in which it is revealed that Barry's time travel has caused Sara Diggle to be replaced by John Diggle Jr.
- Arrow Season 7 Flashfowards reveal that Connor is adopted thus he and JJ are two different people.
- Infinite Crisis reveals that Diggle has two children now. Possibly one of them might be...?
- Arrow Season 7 Flashfowards reveal that Connor is adopted thus he and JJ are two different people.
- That would mean that Grant was only 14 or 15 when brought his army to Star City and killed all of Team Arrow and took Oliver's arm, that would seem unlikely. It's more likely he was born during Slade's mercenary days in the 5 years between swimming off the island and coming to Starling City. Most likely during the time when Slade said he "tried to put the island behind him".
- Besides, Leonard Snart and Barry Allen are proof that the Arrowverse is willing to have characters be closer to their actors' actual age than the age they look like.
- Confirmed!
- Jossed. Captain Cold is the only one to be Killed Off for Real, and the Hawks (Carter was reincarnated and popped up in the future) retire from the team after Savage's death so they can try to live at least one normal lifetime now that they don't have an immortal psychopath hunting them.
- Adding to this, the Chronos of the comics is just a petty thief who happens to get his hands on dangerous technology. Mick was exactly this before getting the Heat Gun, so the end result would be about the same if he somehow got his hands on time tech.
- Confirmed!
- Additionally, because the Speed Force is a (super?)natural entity, time-travel done through its application has the ability to self-correct or self-sustain. Even if the Time Masters could detect Speed Force travels, they would have to have realized after one or two times dealing with it that this is beyond the bounds of what they can tackle and/or that it's a natural force that self-integrates into the flow of time. The singularity that occurred after Eddie killed himself and destroyed Eobard, the time remnants that preserve Eobard's historical existence even after the fact, and now the appearance of time wraiths lend credence to this theory.
- She's not the female bounty hunter, but there's still the possibility that she'll show up again later on.
- Jossed. Captain Cold is killed off and the Hawks (Carter having reincarnated at some point during the season) retire to live a semi-normal life without the threat of Savage hanging over their heads, but the rest of the team sticks around for season 2. New team-mates do keep joining, on the other hand.
When he's done with a particular incarnation of the team, he returns them to May, as after their 'first' disappearance is the only way to safely reinsert them into time without creating some flavour of paradox. We see him return January!Team to May after they kill Savage, as its probably as far as he can get with this incarnation of the team, and has either reached his Despair Event Horizon and given up, or is rebooting from his Heroic BSoD before going to recruit December2015!Team when January!Team contacts the Waverider.
Its also why he won't let Sara save Laurel. When he says he knows that trying to save Laurel will get all three Lances killed, its because a previous incarnation of team (or maybe multiple incarnations) attempted to save Laurel with the stated result.
So, umm... what happens when one of them gets laid?
I mean, it has to have come up, right? Stein is married, and Ronnie was married long enough to have had a wedding night before dying and being replaced by Jax, so presumably this has come up before? If Jax is on a date and it's going well, does he text Stein a warning not to operate heavy machinery for a couple of hours?
Apologies if this has been covered in an episode at some point, I just have to ask.
Also, that "replicated wounding" thing could get embarrassing if one of them's into something kinky.
- Arsenal / Roy Harper (Colton Haynes) and or Speedy / Thea Queen (Willa Holland). Both characters are currently Put on a Bus in Arrow. Arsenal seems more likely, since he has been in the bus for a longer time.
- Wildcat / Ted Grant (J. R. Ramirez). He didn't appeared in Arrow since his Uncertain Doom, but Word of God confirmed that he survived.
- Katana / Tatsu Yamashiro (Rila Fukushima) and Digger Harkness / Captain Boomerang (Nick E. Tarabay). Unfortunately unlikely for both since Executive Meddling forbids the use of Suicide Squad (2016) characters.
- Her late husband's ancestors do appear in the third episode
- Vixen / Mari McCabe (Megalyn Echikunwoke).
- Confirmed, except that it won't actually be Mari McCabe, but a Legacy Character.
- Confirmed
- Linda Park / Dr. Light (Linda Park). Currently on the loose and not entirely evil.
- Shawna Baez / Peek-a-Boo (Britne Oldford). Currently on the loose and not entirely evil.
- Lisa Snart / Golden Glider (Peyton List). She would probably want to avenge her late brother in some way.
- Hartley Rathaway / Pied Piper (Andy Mientus). Now a nice guy after the "time travel reformation".
- Jonah Hex (Jonathon Schaech).
- Maybe a character from Supergirl (2015) now that it is a CW show. Alternatively, Melissa Benoist (or someone else) could play an Earth-One alternative version of the Girl of Steel, namely Power Girl / Kara Zor-L.
- Sin (Bex Taylor-Klaus). Just sort of vanished from Arrow in season 3 and hasn't been mentioned since.
- Jim Corrigan / The Spectre (Emmett J. Scanlan).
- Earth 1 50s Team members:
- Alan Scott, the Green Lantern, user of a magical artifact that creates light constructs.
- Kent Nelson, Doctor Fate, possesses magical helmet, cloak, and amulet given to him by Nabu.
- Past incarnations of Carter and Kendra, Hawkman and Hawkgirl.
- Rex Tyler, Hourman, creator of the drug Miriclo based on research on Mirikuru. (Seen in LOT season finale)
- Earth 1 Present Day team members:
- Ted Grant, Wildcat, boxer, former vigilante, and the trainer of Laurel Lance. (Seen throughout third season of Arrow)
- Curtis Holt, nicknamed Mister Terrific, Palmer Tech scientist and Olympian-level athlete. (Currently Arrow cast member)
- Helena Bertinelli, Huntress, crossbow-wielding vigilante in need of redemption. (Seen in Arrow seasons 1 and 2)
- Courtney Whitmore, Stargirl, possesses Cosmic Staff and trained gymnast and kickboxer.
- Other Earths' team members:
- Jay Garrick, The Flash of Earth 3, scientist-turned superfast hero. (Seen in The Flash Season 2 finale)
- Jesse Quick, Jesse Wells, teen genius, may-or-may-not have super speed and flight powers. (Seen in Flash Season 2)
- Maxine Hunkel, Cyclone, resident of Supergirl's world who gained wind powers from exposure to Red Tornado technology.
- Kara Zor-L/Karen Star, Power Girl, alternate world version of Supergirl.
(Feel free to add any more possible members)
- Rex Tyler/Hourman and Courtney Whitmore/Stargirl confirmed. Other confirmed members include Obsidian, Commander Steel and an earlier incarnation of Vixen. Also, the team is set in the 1940's.
- Sadly jossed
- Confirmed in "The Chicago Way", although this time it's used non-lethally since it's used on Stein, and Eobard can somehow "shake off" the disguise once he's done with it
- He comes back somehow, but as a member of the Legion of Doom
- This alteration to the timeline would be considered as "Steinpoint".
- Confirmed in the Invasion crossover series.
"Rip Hunter would be impressed. He built the first one of these. Interesting man."
Obviously time travel can be quite confusing, but perhaps his lines here are connected to the story of both characters in Legends Of Tomorrow season 2.
- Confirmed. Eo mentioned him again in The Chicago Way and Rip himself appeared, secretly disguised as a film director making a movie of himself.
- Confirmed in the form of Black Flash.
- Jossed
- Also, this might be the offer he makes to Damian Darkh and Leonard Snart - if he helps then get the Spear of Destiny, he'll use it to help them escape their respective future deaths. He might have made Malcolm Merlyn an offer to rewrite his past and save Tommy (or better, yet, Rebecca, preventing all the tragedies her death directly or indirectly led to).
- He won't just bring himself back to existence, but he'll also bring Eddie back to life, thus his lineage restored. Eddie does shoot himself, but soon after, he was "brought back to life" in-universe (via the Spear of Destiny) with memory loss, he somehow gains super-speed and becomes Cobalt Blue. Eddie turns out to be Barry's Long-Lost Twin Brother.
- Confirmed.
- Jossed. While Rip's movies are based on his subconscious memories of the Legends, he doesn't actually remember them and if he is trying to reach out to them, it isn't conscious.
- Semi Confirmed plus see all of the craziness when The Legends came didn't help
- Discussed by the characters, and ultimately Jossed. Rather, direct contact with the Waverider's Time Drive altered Rip's mind, giving him a new identity
- If he's gonna die, it should be in an episode of Arrow.
- Except that Oliver spent the last two seasons being buddy-buddy with Malcolm, so that's never going to happen.
- Jossed: He's A Karma Houdini. As always.
- Except that Oliver spent the last two seasons being buddy-buddy with Malcolm, so that's never going to happen.
- Confirmed thats what he does with the spear.
- Probably jossed. Nate specifically called Sara bisexual in Land Of The Lost.
- Pre-Season:
- Seemingly confirmed: http://www.cbr.com/legends-tomorrow-s3-damien-darhk/
- Andrew Bennett and Mary, Queen of Blood might be featured in this episode.
- Seemingly jossed for now, the episode referenced in the above article is simply a fake vampire scare in Victorian England. Maybe in another season.
- Jossed for this season. Besides, these things should be saved for the crossovers.
- Other Possible Characters:
- Animal Man
- John Henry Irons
- Firefly
- Mr. Freeze (post-humously)
- Other Possible Characters:
- Jossed so far.
- Semi-Confirmed; the Legends have encountered several of their ancestors/descendants already, but it is not a result of the Time Crash. Rather, it seems to be the work of the season's Big Bad, Mallus.
- If you count the crossover, Confirmed! Otherwise, you seem to be out of luck because he's too important to take out of the present day.
- Jossed, but Rip Hunter and his Time Bureau arrive and fix everything in 5 minutes.
- Jossed, the mask was a German gas mask to foreshadow that Earth X is ruled by Nazis. In fact, seemingly Jossed on all accounts, as Sarah's new love interest seems to be Agent Ava Sharpe of the Time Bureau- a woman.
- Mid-Season:
- Mallus isn't a person. It's the name of Damien Darhk's new organization. We know Darhk will be resurrected in Season 3, and that he'll lead a team of villains, and that there is no villain named Mallus in DC lore. Why create a new villain when you can just create a new organization?
- Jossed: "Return of the Mack" reveals that Mallus is an Ancient Evil, and Darhk is simply his dragon.
- Mallus is actually a well known DC villain: Trigon from Teen Titans! He's described as an Ancient Evil older than time itself, and he has a cult of devoted followers doing his bidding.
- He and his followers do seem to have a lot of magical power...
- The mid-season finale has Sarah latching onto Darhk's time travel and ending up in a hellish other-world. Also, John Constantine, the most mystical man in the Arrowverse, appears at the end to ask Sarah's help...
- Mallus is Mister Mind
- Mallus is a future version of an already existing character.
The Arrowverse has a history of repeating story arcs, like season 1 of Flash paralleling season 1 of Arrow. Season 3 of Flash had Savitar, a future version of Barry. It isn't out of the question that the show with time travel as its premise could do something similar:- Mallus arose after the Legends broke time, similar to how Savitar appeared after Flashpoint
- They both have/had cults that did their bidding, while remaining in the shadows for a large part of the season
- One problem: Word of God says that Mallus has always existed, and is merely going through a cycle of rebirth.
- Ignoring that problem, or accounting for the possibility of Trolling Creators, who could Mallus be/have been? Options:
Earth-1 Leonard Snart, driven insane by the Oculus explosion.
Future Rip Hunter, his obsession with being the one who decides what can and cannot be changed will keep pushing him further and further into darkness until he fully turns evil
Future Jax, now that Stein is dead and he's left the Waverider
- Mallus is the Anthropomorphic Personification of time itself.
Similar to how the Speed Force is portrayed, as a Sentient Cosmic Force / Jerkass God; the way other characters talk about time, that it "wants to happen", and "when you mess with it, it messes back", it implies a consciousness. A Control Freak one at that, somewhat prone to Suicidal Cosmic Temper Tantrums. There's also the fact that the Speed Force is very strict about time travel, in spite of the fact that it, quote, "exists outside of time". If both are sentient, then they may have an agreement that Speedsters are only allowed to time travel via the Speed Force if they follow specific rules.
In addition, some folks are predicting that the Time Bureau will turn into the Time Masters in the future; it's said that the Time Masters fought Mallus in their early days. This could all be a giant Stable Time Loop, similar to Vandal Savage murdering Rip's family, to establish the Time Masters and Legends, Time protecting itself.
- Mallus isn't a person. It's the name of Damien Darhk's new organization. We know Darhk will be resurrected in Season 3, and that he'll lead a team of villains, and that there is no villain named Mallus in DC lore. Why create a new villain when you can just create a new organization?
What if Rip has inadvertently created a Stable Time Loop when he established the Time Bureau? What if the Time Bureau... is the origin story for the Time Masters?
- Firestorm will become inactive permanently.
- Confirmed. Jax has also left the series, and Word of God has confirmed that another Arrowverse character will replace Firestorm aboard the Waverider.
- Ray will find a way for Jax to use the Firestorm Matrix by himself, thus enabling him to access the powers without merging.
- Jossed, unfortunately.
- Jax will have to find another partner to merge with. Perhaps even Ronnie, who might be Not Quite Dead or an alternate version of him?
- Jax will, thanks to time travel silliness, end up with young Martin Stein as his new bonding partner.
- Seemingly jossed, for now, as Young!Martin accepts his future fate and will do nothing to change it.
- Jax will, thanks to time travel silliness, end up with young Martin Stein as his new bonding partner.
- Possible, but it's also possible that Rip was just acting like a jerk and he recruited a bunch of jerks when he formed the bureau.
- Jossed, Martin's fate is to die in the crossover.
- Confirmed.
- There was been no mention of who fathered children with Amaya so it is possible that Nate could be her biological grandfather.
- Seems to be leaning in that direction, as Amaya stopped Kuasa from killing him by saying "You need him too".
- Jossed. Kuasa later confirms their grandfather is someone else. She even says Amaya's relationship with Nate endangers her and Mari's existence.
- Wally West/Kid Flash: most likely option, as he has been shown to be friends with and worked with Nate already, and could fill Jax's vital spot as the team's engineer.
- Confirmed!
- Roy Harper/Arsenal.
- John Constantine.
- Leo Snart/Citizen Cold.
- He'll be around for at least a couple of episodes more.
- Connor Hawke/Green Arrow II.
- Caitlin Snow/Killer Frost.
- Jossed for now. Amaya goes back to her time and Kuasa's destiny is reset in an slightly altered timeline.
- Confirmed. Damien redeems himself, dying in Nora's place, and Nora will be taking an lighter path in future.
- She died offscreen in mission for the world she is Flash of
- She died/will die before the end of Flash season four, but the Legends are out of sequence with that timeline, so Wally/the viewer doesn't know it yet
- The Jesse Quick of Earth One died while still unborn when Eobard Thawne murdered her mother, which makes her "dead" enough for the totem's purposes
- Jossed, so far.
- Jossed, so far and Word of God claimed that Firestorm would not return.
- A younger, time-traveling Malcolm Merlyn, with either John Barrowman returning or a Time-Shifted Actor portraying a particularly younger version of the character. If the latter is the case, he'll go by his birth name of Arthur King and change it to Malcolm Merlyn after he's defeated because everyone slips and calls him that throughout the season.
- Professor Ojo, who will be depicted as the leader of a version of the League of Assassins from the future, now much less "Arabic-named ninja" and more "cyberpunk mercenary" in style and practice. They now travel through time to assassinate various figures, sometimes before they make their mark on history and sometimes as children, for very well-paying, deep pocketed clients.
- The Wildebeest Society, who are operating at various points in history in different incarnations with the goal of creating the ultimate monster. In this version their leader is Johnny Sorrow, who wants to create a being too strong for exposure to his face to kill.
- The First of the fallen, since the season 3 finale shows that various demons have been released due to Mallus breaking out this would be a perfect opportunity to use him. Since John Constantine is teaming up with them next season, why not use his Arch-Enemy as the main villain of season 4.
- Tala
- Dreamslayer
- Blackbriar Thorn
- Gustav Klimt, who will be depicted as a disguised demon attempting to turn people lustful and horny through erotic paintings.
- Johnny Sorrow, as the agent of a powerful demonic entity, he would fit the cliffhanger perfectly.
- Trigon. Mallus was assumed to be him anyway (before ultimately turning out to be a Canon Foreigner), so why not have the real thing show up?
- Savitar, who's preserved in the timeline for the same reasons as Eobard Thawne, and who could be wearing a costume closer to his comic self.
- Another past version of Damien Darhk. Love him or hate him, the Arrowverse will try to milk Neal Mcdonough for as long as it can.
- Imperiex. He’s been mentioned as a Mythology Gag in the show before, and he’s enough of an Omnicidal Maniac and universal threat that he would work as a Legends antagonist.
- Nergal
- Papa Midnite
- Manny
- All jossed
- First of the Fallen makes an appearance
- All jossed
- Nebiros
- Jossed, he hasn't appeared so far.
- Yeah, sure he does.
- Only Ray was born an identical twin making it impossible although Henry Cavill could be another character in the Arrowverse future. ...Unless the Legends screw up their own pasts again, or something.
- Jossed so far.
- Only Ray was born an identical twin making it impossible although Henry Cavill could be another character in the Arrowverse future. ...Unless the Legends screw up their own pasts again, or something.
- Jossed, Neron and Tabitha are the big bads of the season.
- Jossed, it's Neron.
Constantine's noted to be even more broody and depressed than usual BEFORE the demon/whatever makes itself known to him. Maybe he's recently found out he's dying. Maybe whoever's after him is one of the demons he sold his soul to.
- Jossed, no mention is made of Jon being sick.
- Jossed, Jon attempts to rescue Astra but she's evil, and the Sequel Hook indicates she will be the (initial) big bad of next season.
- Jossed.
- Jossed, the project is to build a theme park where all the magical creatures can be put on display.
- Confirmed; she slowly regains them over the course of the season can fully shapeshift again by the final episode.
- Neron's capable of taking on Desmond's form, and he's already been shown to be petty and cruel. What better way to hurt John than to trick him into falling in love and then manipulate circumstances so John thinks he's been forced to send his lover to hell?
- Jossed, Desmond is a regular human who got possesed by Neron, and he later got freed from him.
- Matthew Shrieve
- Lewis Snart
- The Turtle
- Exposure to whatever makes his home untraceable has given him a Ripple-Effect-Proof Memory.
- Perhaps Vandal Savage will return. Who better to help track down evil than well, a greater evil.
- Confirmed. Rip Hunter briefly returns. Hilarity Ensues. Damien Darkh does also return.
- Nope. Season 5 is just as weird, if not even weirder, and the show seems to be staying at least this far out there from now on.
- From what we've seen no other human soul has aged during their stay in Hell
- There was story in the comics, a demoness Chantinelle disguised herself to get close to the First of the Fallen and betray him.
- The child!Astra is different from the one seen on the NBC show (her actress from that show made a voice cameo in Season 3 and appears in stock footage from the show) hinting she might be an illusion.
- Jossed, she's the real Astra.
- Jossed: He doesn't join the Legends, nor does he become any super-hero, including the Atom.
- Jossed; they are aliens, as revealed in the first episode of the season.
- Jossed; her abductors are a different species.
- A point in favor of this is the title of the second episode, "Meat: The Legends"; the Reach used the term 'Meat' to describe life-forms they saw as being beneath them in Young Justice (2010).
- Jossed.
- Confirmed. Kayla is a new character.
- Jossed. She's a Canon Foreigner named Esperanza "Spooner" Cruz.
- Considering where in the middle of the pandemic with over eight hundred thousand dead, jobs lost and homeless. I doubt it, no-one would find it funny and most would find it distasteful.
- Only Esperanza told Ava that her mother was taken with her too and while she was returned to earth, Her mom wasn't, leading to Esperanza to only think of the worst. So that doesn't sound like an action hero mom who would abandon their kid on purpose.
- Ultimately jossed, as her mother is a normal human - from the 1920s.
- Nia, as a trans woman, would be well received by the predominantly queer fanbase of the show.
- Brainy could join alongside Nia or on his own if he doesn't return to the future, and would probably get along well with Gary, Ava, and Gideon.
- Alex joining could lead to some funny situations working alongside Sara.