This covers Wild Mass Guessings for both the original books as well as its adaptations.
- Isn't this because of the promotion rule?
- The third Alice went insane with power: "she now only sees rotting human flesh" or something like that. Alice didn't remain on the other side of the mirror long enough for this "dream of distorsion" to possess her (though it is not excluded that it would have, had the dream (?) lasted longer).
- She's actually the fourth Alice (one of them, anyway) - entering the Wonderland and travelling through it from curiosity. Lots of people have tried matching the Alices in the song with characters from the books/movies - Second Alice is either the March Hare or the Hatter, Third Alice is one of the malevolent queens (Probably the Queen of Hearts), and the First Alice is...hard to figure out.
- The third Alice went insane with power: "she now only sees rotting human flesh" or something like that. Alice didn't remain on the other side of the mirror long enough for this "dream of distorsion" to possess her (though it is not excluded that it would have, had the dream (?) lasted longer).
- Then why wasn't he a mouse?
- Cats evolved to catch and eat mice. To do this, they had to be able to go where the mice do. So, cats can freely enter and exit hyperspace; but, since they are of native Earth stock, doing this drives them insane. Not too insane to function, mind you, but insane.
- Can someone explain to me why that's not canon? Seriously, it's awesome.
- My God, it's true!
- Cats evolved to catch and eat mice. To do this, they had to be able to go where the mice do. So, cats can freely enter and exit hyperspace; but, since they are of native Earth stock, doing this drives them insane. Not too insane to function, mind you, but insane.
- It would explain all the hookah-smoking.
- Actually, the Caterpillar was most probably smoking tobacco. AS well as this, he was probably intended to be a parody of British generals in India or something like that.
- I always figured it was lead poisoning, though I'm not sure why a hatter would have come in contact with a significant amount of lead over the average person of his time and place. Perhaps Alice had heard the phrase, but was confused as to what kind of madness would result from mercury poisoning, and her misconception shaped that corner of Wonderland as it did other places, and behind the looking glass? (If you're talking about Tim Burton's Hatter, yeah, that's the intent.)
- Going by Tim Burton continuity, Willy did seem to be very estranged from the man who claimed to be his father. And since he and the Hatter are both played by Johnny Depp, it does seem to add up, doesn't it?
- Someone write a fanfic about this!
- Also, Willy has a pretty kickin' hat
- He found a way to build a factory that physically existed in Wonderland, but had a portal there in the form of a mysterious factory in Germany.
- But their personalities are completely different! The Hatter is a demented loon, while Wonka is an eccentric genius.
- OR, he was Willy Wonka first, but when he lost his awesome hat he couldn't find any more in the style he liked...SO he went into hat making, as well as continuing to make chocolate. The mercury started to affect his brain and he started to go wilder and wilder with his chocolate experiments, until he punched a hole between dimensions. Travelling through this sent him back in time (to the Victorian era), and made him younger (hence how he was able to be a younger version of himself in the flashback).
- Also, Wonka is an eccentric genius; the Hatter is a demented loon AND an eccentric genius.
- Not in the books. The Hatter's really just an antagonistic eccentric who sometimes borders on Jerkass. However, thanks to Draco in Leather Pants ...
- But their personalities are completely different! The Hatter is a demented loon, while Wonka is an eccentric genius.
- How do you explain Through the Looking Glass then?
- She got better, then smashed the looking glass with her face because she couldn't stand looking at her shriveled, wheelchair-bound body, and Through The Looking Glass was her
Dying DreamNear-Death Experience as she bled to death. The focus on strategy and chess themes instead of lunacy and card themes is because she learned how to play chess to pass the time because she couldn't go out and play tag or hide and seek or any of the other games the kids her age played. - Jossed by this and this.
- She got better, then smashed the looking glass with her face because she couldn't stand looking at her shriveled, wheelchair-bound body, and Through The Looking Glass was her
- I haven't the slightest idea. -The Mad Hatter, Lewis Carrol
- Neither is a product of ANYONE'S imagination other than Carroll himself, neither of them is a product of a drug trip, and neither of them were invented by a goddamn videogame designer!
- Because it can produce a few notes, though they are very flat; and it is nevar put with the wrong end in front! -Charles Lutwidge Dodgson
- While he gave that answer, I think he also said that that was only one of the possible answers and that it didn't really have an answer.
- Because they both have (inky) quills. -???
- Because Poe wrote on both. - Sam Loyd
- Because both generally have quills, both commonly have wings, and many of each are to be found with 'pinions on.
- Poe wrote on both.
- They're both nouns?
- There's a B in both.
- There's also an N in neither.note
- There's an E in both. Why not?
- They're both made of matter.
- Correct answer: it isn't.
- "'Why', like a writing desk, is a raven."
- One is black as ink, the other black with ink.
- Because neither is much like a bicycle
- The higher the fewer!
- 42.
- Look out! She's RAVEN mad! - The March Hare, Disney edition
- They both produce rather flat notes.
- Neither is made of cheese.
- Because I Said So.
- No, chairs don't have purple feet.
- Both likely witnessed a murder story if you have seen a lot of them
- However, children are perfectly capable of coming up with some of the most messed up and freakish ideas, especially in dreams, while being completely free of drugs.
- Also, I don't think simply breathing in poppies would get you that ridiculously high. She would have had to be smoking some really hard core stuff to have a trip like that. I'm still for the dream theory.
- I have strange dreams like that all the time, and I've never taken any kinds of drugs. Seems more like the sign of a very active imagination, mixed with a child's somewhat skewed interpretation of the adult world, to me.
- or maybe he's just so sane, it seems like he's mad. Kind of like being permanently on Klatchian Coffee, maybe?
- Near-death experience after hitting her head?
- As an Autistic individual, I approve of this theory! Adding to this, the Caterpillar represents the tendency of Autistic individuals to memorize things easily and leanings toward above average intelligence, the Mouse represents oversensitivity (he's very easy to offend), the Dodo represents Lewis Carroll, and the Duchess represents the tendency toward mood swings. Alice herself represents an Autistic individual's tendency to feel out of place in the world.
- Small issue with this one: In House of Mouse, the king is occasionally shown to be alive and Mortimer's the one who flirted with the Queen, not the other way around (in fact, she seemed quite offended when he did).
- Now let's not be silly.
- Maybe it could've. The Hatter said it was 2 days slow. Maybe the oil in the mustard could've sped it up a bit.
- Or maybe the other side of the mushroom make's the potions.
- Either way. It could be that the White Rabbit's side job is providing Carrot's to make the Drink me! Potions.
- What about the caterpillar's mushroom's?
- The mushrooms are probably picked by bakers to make their cookies. Alice is the only affected by this because she isn't from Wonderland.
- Alice inherits Belle's dress sense and imagination and Gaston's persistence and non-understanding of books without pictures.
- Her sister takes after Belle.
Also, later during the trail, he summons the Mad Hatter who tells the court he was celebrating his unbirthday, prompting the King to remind the Queen it's her unbirthday. Perhaps the King set this up, as he was hoping that if the queen was in a good enough mood, she might forgive Alice or at least forget about executing her.
Of course, it all goes horribly wrong, and he's gives up.
The Queen of Hearts: based on a mean teacher Alice had. This teacher was verbally, and at times physically abusive (it IS the 19th century after all)with her students.
The Mad Hatter: based on an eccentric (but harmless) scientist Alice knows. He's a friend to Alice's family. The March Hare is based on his assistant.
Tweedledum and Tweedledee: based on two Irish blue collar construction workers that Alice encountered many times in her neighborhood. They're a bit portly like the duo in her dream and enjoy telling Alice stories.
The Caterpillar: based on the dean of the school Alice attends. He's a bit of a serious, but very intelligent person. While stern, often gives students very helpful advice.
The Chesire Cat: based on a fat cat owned by Alice's grandparents. Alice always wondered what he was thinking.
The Walrus: based on a vagrant scam artist who conned Alice's grandparents out of money (he was eventually arrested)
The Carpenter: based on a real carpenter who fixed the stairs in Alice's home.