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Miscellany for m-95.
Forum Effortposts
All of these are posts from the Politics in Media -- The Good, the Bad, and the Preachy thread. These are the longer posts of mine where I analyze something.
- On Morally Grey Authoritarians (First!) — TAGS
- This Moral Ambiguity Was Liberated By The OFN — TAGS
- Harry Potter Is Libtard — TAGS
- Edmund Burke and the Olympians (Percy Jackson Schizopost) — TAGS
- Michael Moorcock is Wrong (And I Suck At Reading Lovecraft) — TAGS
- Plato's Terrible Writing Advice — TAGS
- Lily Orchard Is A Stupid Dumb-Dumb (On Sympathetic Villains) — TAGS
- On Redemption As A Concept — TAGS
- Did Othar Tryggvassen Do Nothing Wrong? Discuss — TAGS
- Growing Up In The Suburbs (& YA Literature) —
- Why Have Morally Complex Villains? —
- The Spermacist Chimes In — TAGS
- Nazi Collaborator Mindsets —
- Leftoid Overanalysis Vs. Rightoid Overanalysis — TAGS
- The Great Proud Family Slavery Spat — TAGS
- Wizard Game — TAGS
- Lily Orchard: The Rematch — TAGS
- On Monarchy — TAGS
- Nappy (Not here for it's own sake but for what follows.) —
Meta Effortposts
Other long forum posts, like the above category, but for the TV Tropes Meta Thread.- I Don't Touch Grass
- Villains Wiki (Part I)
- Girl Genius and This Site
- Sinfest and This Site
- Fan Myopia For The Classics
- What Others Think About Us: An Overview
- Contd. (4chan and Tumblr)
- "Evil German" is Chair
- What's an Anti-Hero?
- This Site Drifted Leftwardsnote
- Video Examples: Deliberate Values Dissonance (Not actually that long or an effortpost but I wanted it here anyways).
- Thoughts About "On-Topic Conversations"
Fifteen Villainous Mindsets
A list of mindsets that contribute to the personalities of villanous characters (mostly fictional, though of course real bad people often think these ways). These are mainly tips for writers. Keep in mind that (both in fiction and reality) such mindsets often overlap. This list is adapted from "Mindsets & Rationales That Lend Well To Villainy" over on Springhole - credit to them for compiling this list - but the commentary is the work of myself.I. Vengance II. Blaming Others III. Everyone Hates Me IV. Paternalism V. Just Worldism VI. Entitlement VII. Purity of Intent VIII. Post-Hoc Victim-Blaming IX. Carelessness X. Ends Justify the Means XI. Breaker of the Haughty XII. Preemptive Victim-Blaming XIII. At Least I'm Honest XIV. Blind Authority XV. Fearmongering
The Mindsets:
Tamagotchi Seconds Game Adventures
The adventures of the Tamagotchis, as depicted in the profile pictures of MkayRose, in the "How will your avatar spend the day with the above avatar?" thread. An incomplete list, of course, only putting in the ones that I both found interesting and that I even found. Listed by who they engaged in these adventures with.
As of Jan. 2023, I hardly update this thing and mostly just use it as a marker for reference-points.
As of Jan. 2023, I hardly update this thing and mostly just use it as a marker for reference-points.
Adventures:
- Bamber — Politics
- The Bandit — Crossdressing
- Black hole — Married for a day
- CATS — Politics
- Catra — Asexual sleeping
- Expunged — Married, hugging, handcuffed
- Hobgoblin — Hugging
- Joker — Fleeing Godzilla
- Jigsaw — Snowball fight
- Tarvek Sturmvoraus — Politics, double-date wingmates, having tea
- ... accompanied by Gilgamesh Wulfenbach —
- Sonic the Hedgehog — Skydiving
- Tigger — Double-date wingmates
- Tweety — Double-date wingmates, in jail, breaking into a bank
- Void Cat — Crime-fighting
- A wasp eater weasel — Eating sandwiches
Forms of Address
An informal list of tropes relating to how you address someone.
- Accidental Misnaming
- Affectionate Nickname
- Alternative-Self Name-Change
- Appropriated Appellation
- Calling Parents by Their Name
- Doctor, Doctor, Doctor
- Do Not Call Me "Paul"
- Do Not Call Me Sir
- Earn Your Title
- Embarrassing First Name
- Embarrassing Last Name
- Embarrassing Middle Name
- Embarrassing Nickname
- Fantastic Honorifics
- Fantastic Naming Convention
- Full-Name Basis
- Full-Name Ultimatum
- Given Name Reveal
- Hates Being Nicknamed
- Hey, You!
- I Know Your True Name
- Insistent Appellation
- Insult of Endearment
- Just the First Citizen
- King Bob the Nth
- Lord Country
- Malicious Misnaming
- The Maiden Name Debate
- The Master
- The Magnificent
- Meaningful Rename
- Meaningful Titles
- New Parent Nomenclature Problem
- The Nicknamer
- Nominal Importance
- No Name Given
- Only Known by Their Nickname
- Outgrowing the Childish Name
- Parental Title Characterization
- Professional Maiden Name
- Red Baron
- Rite-of-Passage Name Change
- Shed the Family Name
- She Is the King
- Significant Name Shift
- Sobriquet Sex Switch
- Some Call Me "Tim"
- Spell My Name with a "The"
- Terms of Endangerment
- Themed Aliases
- They Call Me MISTER Tibbs!
- This Is My Name on Foreign
- Tiered by Name
- Took the Wife's Name
- The Von Trope Family
- You Called Me "X"; It Must Be Serious
Fantasy genre types
* High * Heroic * Low * Mythopoeia * Slow Life | * Standard * Medieval European * Standard Japanese * Wuxia * Urban * Supernatural * Science * Historical * Gaslamp * Magical Land * Americana * Sword and Sandal * Kitchen Sink * Dungeon Punk | * The Epic * Sword and Sorcery * Comic * Dark * Mundane * Magic Realism * Feminist * Fantastic Noir * Heavy Mithril |
Berserk | Low (Golden Age Arc), High (post-Golden Age) | Medieval European | Dark, The Epic, Sword and Sorcery |
The Chronicles of Narnia | x | x | x |
Conan the Barbarian | x | x | x |
Dungeons & Dragons | x | x | x |
Genshin Impact | High | Standard Japanese | x |
Girl Genius | Heroic (Vols. 1-11), High (Vols. 12—) | Gaslamp, Science, Post-Medieval European | The Epic (later Vols.), Comic, Feminist |
Gravity Falls | x | x | x |
Harry Potter | x | x | x |
KonoSuba | x | x | x |
The Lord of the Rings | High | Standard, Medieval European | The Epic |
Percy Jackson | High | Urban, Americana, Sword and Sandal | The Epic |
A Song of Ice and Fire | Low (earlier), High (later) | Medieval European | The Epic, Dark |
Warhammer | Low | Medieval European, Semi-Gaslamp | Dark |
Warhammer 40,000 | Low | Science | Dark |
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- Berserk
- Setting: The world of Berserk is a fictional Constructed World with fictional countries (Midland, Tudor, Kushan, etc.) and a fictional system of metaphysics.
- Magic: Originally the magic was barely there, but the Great Roar of the Astral World (during the Millennium Falcon Arc) and the birth of Fantasia makes it so The Magic Comes Back. An outlier of Berserk here is that magic isn't depicted positively, with the Great Roar of the Astral World being a bad thing triggered by the God Hand.
- Scale: After the Millennium Falcon Arc, Berserk shifts to a very high scale. Femto is a Physical God Reality Warper ruling over his personal dominion, and the realms of the immaterial and material have merged under the God Hand's plans.
- Morality: Complicated. Guts is an Anti-Hero for the whole series, but he does get better via Character Development (going from Nominal Hero at the start to something like a Classical Anti-Hero). Meanwhile, the God Hand are all very much unambiguously pure evil, and you can probably count the number of sympathetic Apostles on your hands.
- Great evil: The God Hand is a Big Bad Quintumvirate of arch-demonic Transhuman Abominations from another dimension who have long planned to merge their domain with the mortal world. The Antichrist Femto is prophesized to bring about an Age of Darkness, and has so far managed to turn everything outside of his city of Falconia (where you must worship him) into a living hell for all mankind.
- Methods: Guts relies on force, yes, but he also has his companions along side him going up against unfathomably powerful evils while standing at Badass Normal levels (OK, "normal" for Berserk). "Screw you. I'm purebred human, right down to the bone. Don't mistake me for one of you freaks."
- Genshin Impact
- Setting: Teyvat is a fictional Constructed World explicitly not in our own world. The map is ever-expanding, with fictional countries (Mondstadt, Inazuma, Sumeru, etc.) revealed in different chapters.
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- Morality: Complicated, mostly due to the nature of the video game having parts released bit-by-bit. The Traveller is generally good, with the details based on player choice. The Big Bad Ensemble tend to largely be Hidden Agenda Villains, but given that both the Fauti and the Abyss Order want to overthrow the gods and endanger humanity with them, they're pretty firmly bad guys.
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- Girl Genius
- Setting:
- Magic: Outright "magic" isn't present, but assorted fantastical and supernatural elements are plentiful. The Spark can make you crazy but not outright bad (evil Sparks are so by their own choice), and sufficiently intelligent monsters (most notably Adam & Lilith) can be benevolent.
- Scale:
- Morality: It's morally grey in most of Act 1, with a swarm of different antgonists with different motives, but Moral Disambiguation sets in near the last third of Act 1. Gil & Tarvek become better people via Agatha's Morality Chain influence during Act 2. With Anti-Villain Klaus frozen in time by the time Act 2 starts, more unambiguously evil villains like Lucrezia become the driving antagonists (and even during the Act 1 Siege of Mechanicsburg, Klaus being mind-controlled by Lucrezia adds a stronger moral layer to the battle).
- Great evil: Bit by bit, the Other is revealed to fit the mold. Lucrezia Mongfish is practically a transhuman cyborg-demon-goddess sealed away for centuries, and it's revealed in Vols. 19 & 22 that Lucrezia is a Time Traveler behind far more than "just" the attacks of the Other. As for goals, the Other seeks to enslave the minds of all Europa to their will and make everyone worship them as a false deity.
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- Percy Jackson and the Olympians
- Setting: The only major outlier here, as PJO is set in an Urban Fantasy version of the 21st century United States of America.
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- Morality: Camp Half-Blood is good, Kronos and his Titan Army are bad. There is ambiguity in that most of the half-bloods serving Kronos are AntiVillains, but service to Kronos is still very clearly evil (which is why many of them pull a Heel–Face Turn). Percy is pretty unambiguously a good person, give or take some personal flaws. Interestingly, the Olympian gods themselves aren't depicted as the setting's highest good, and the demigods are often shown calling their parents out on their vices.
- Great evil: Should Kronos win, all Western Civilization would be destroyed and mankind would enter into a new age of darkness under their tyrannical lords. Even Luke admits this in The Lightning Thief, in saying Kronos "will cast the Olympians into Tartarus and drive humanity back to their caves. All except the strongest—the ones who serve him." Kronos is described by Chiron as caring nothing for humanity except as " appetizers or a source of cheap entertainment."
- Methods: Percy and Camp Half-Blood win their victory by going against the odds. Percy's final battle with Kronos-in-Luke ends with Luke's Heel–Face Turn suicide, in which he resists Kronos enough to self-sacrificially defeat him.
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