Headscratchers / OK K.O.! Let's Be Heroes

• If Lord Boxman could create a Giant Darrell that is Level -100 and a Mega Darrell that could destroy the Plaza in "T.K.O." why doesn't he make more them? Level 100, either negative or positive, seem quite rare in their world?
  • That's probably why; it probably takes a shitload of whatever those robots are made of to make those Mega Darrells, which would cost a lot of money .
    • Its also possible Big Darrell is not in fact level -100 and Boxman was lying to look tougher.
• It has been shown that K.O. is a lower level hero and could barely make a Power Move. How come in "You're Level 100" and "Do You Have More in the Back" shows K.O. able to perform his Power Move quite easily?
  • Considering how K.O. is a Stock Shōnen Hero and how the show uses shonen elements, it's probably tied to his self-confidence and how naturally he feels like he's able to preform his Power Move. It's also be possible that he hasn't been training/practicing his Power Move and has instead been trying to wing it. It's like being a newbie when trying to hit the ball in badminton (bare with my analogy, here). Sure, you hit it sometimes but most of the time it's luck. Until you practice proper techniques and learn how to hit it properly you won't have to rely solely on luck anymore.
• How come in the old picture, the Kactus Krew and Carol were very young but in the present Carol is basically early 30s and the Kactus Krew are old?
  • It is possible that cactus people have a different age rate than regular humans. Either that or just Rule of Funny.
  • Maybe Succulentus looks that old because he is a succulent, and is at the end of his rope. Succulents don't live long, after all.
• Why was K.O. against playing difficult games with Rad friends despite being really good at them in "You Are Rad"
  • IIRC, K.O.'s reasoning was that KO might be bad at the games, but Rad was really good at them. Embracing his Rad persona gave him the confidence to try the games and win.
• Why is it that Captain Planet, the embodiment of the planet, is Level Planet while Cool Sun, a literal sun, is Level 2?
  • How do you expect The Sun to fight?
• Why is Vormulax one of the judges in the Plazalympics?
  • There's no rule in the book saying a villain made up of purple clouds can't be a judge.
• If the Hue Troop brought the Crystal from the past into the future, how was the crystal able to create the Hue Troops in the first place? Are they going to a future where the Hue Troops didn't exist?
  • Maybe they're using A.U. magic to ensure that they don't cease to exist. Or it may be a case of Our Time Travel Is Different in this universe. Red Action has been seen in 'action' in the most recent episodes.
• Is the "brain" inside Darrell's head real, or is it just a mechanical part that looks like a brain? If it's the former, where do all the brains that are used to make Darrells come from? Do the other robots have "brains" too?
  • Word of God has it that the "brain" you see is actually a wad of chewing gum placed in Darrell's cranium for aesthetic purposes. Now, admittedly, that brings up far more questions than it answers, but either way...
• Are crossover episodes such as "A Hero's Fate" and "The Power Is Yours!" canon?
  • "A Hero's Fate" is based off Ian Jones-Quartey's comic RPG World, so it's likely canon. "The Power is Yours" is probably canon to OKKO, but not the Captain Planet series.
  • All crossover episodes are canon.
• If Enid is half-werewolf and half-vampire (which can turn into a bat), how is her were-animal form a bunny? Even if we take into account that were-animal forms are supposed to be based on one's personality and Hidden Depths, shouldn't Enid's genes have affected her were-form in some way?
  • She's not half werewolf, half vampire. She's a full-blooded witch. Cartoon monster genes are clearly different from ours.
• When Enid sucked in almost everyone's souls in "Enid's Bad Day", they were still able to talk and move despite being soulless. And KO was still kind to Enid even after having his soul taken, so it's not like lacking a soul makes one heartless either. So what effect does being soulless have on someone?
  • Regardless of the fact that the shorts aren't necessarily canon to the show, since they were made to just get a better understanding of the characters and how the worked off each other, Parents Day gives a pretty good answer to this question- the soul-sucking ability seems to work well against possession.
• Is "Let's Watch the Pilot" canon?
  • It's an "actor AU" according to Ian JQ, so it's not really canon to the rest of the show.
• In "Villains' Night In", why didn't Professor Venomous say anything about Fink's claims of the robots not feeding her, letting her in danger and almost getting her killed? Despite all that, he never got alarmed or mad at the robots and even said they should babysit her all the time. This is rather strange considering he otherwise seems to be a responsible father figure for her.
  • Given her implied history with previous babysitters, he's probably used to hearing stories like that.
  • They're villains. They almost get themselves killed on a near-daily basis and came out fine each time. They're both used to it.
• On "Lad & Logic", why is K.O. surprised that Mr. Logic is a robot despite referring him as one in "I Am Dendy"? Was it a case of Continuity Snarl, or Obfuscating Stupidity (as the beginning of Lord Cowboy Darrel seems to imply).
  • If I remember correctly, all K.O. said about Mr. Logic was that he might know about robot stuff. It's quite possible that K.O. thought that Mr. Logic was simply a cyborg similar to Red Action or someone skilled in robotic prosthesis.
• The description of Monster Party states that the plot revolves around "old friends from Ghoul School," but we've seen in flashbacks to episodes like You Have To Care and Second First Date that Enid went to a regular-ish school, so at one point could she have gone to Ghoul School?
  • My guess is that they are friends met during a class trip or friends she met online who attend Ghoul School. After all, the only thing that it says is that the ‘’’friends’’’ are from Ghoul School, not Enid herself. Hell, the genie episode, which not only has Enid in the spotlight but has a conflict centered around exact wording, may have foreshadowed this detail!
    • That does sound like a reasonable explanation, so I won't be too shocked if that turns out to be the case.
    • It turned out that this wasn't the case: Enid was simply transferred from Ghoul School to Lakewood.
    • Bugger. Well I'm sure that the Soda Genie episode will have some purpose because this is Season 2, and they wouldn’t have plot heavy episodes while having filler episodes; they are competent writers after all, so why would they let filler episodes take place?
• Who could Foxtail be possibly considering for the new Wisdom discipline if she's looking at Lakewood specifically? The only one known for intelligence there is Dendy, and she's a child.
  • A child who coded a very complex program that would have taken the lead programmer of Pow Card Industries ages to code, found a way to modify Pow Cards to customize their appearance, and defeated a demonic half-code creature. Trust me, she is more than qualified, considering that Greymann didn't even have any powers of his own. Hell, it may even help to modernize P.O.I.N.T. Prep and expand the technology of the school!
    • I ruled out Dendy as an option on the basis that P.O.I.N.T. Prep would have rules against minors teaching, but in hindsight, it would be perfectly reasonable to believe Foxtail would have no problem hiring a child to teach at a superhero college. Then there's the question of if Dendy would be perfectly willing to go ahead and teach despite still going to school herself, or if foul play would be involved to convince Dendy.
    • It's quite possible that Dendy might agree just to be able to keep KO and company updated on the day to day actions of P.O.I.N.T. Prep and the gifted and talented students. Either that, or to allow communication between Enid and Elodie. There is also the possibility of a massive salary (possibly six-or-seven figures) that comes with working for P.O.I.N.T. Prep.
  • Mr. Logic is also pretty logical, so he could be a good candidate for a Wisdom head. She has already forcibly controlled one robot to achieve her goals, after all...
    • Considering that Mr. Logic was made by someone who is a robotic specialist(Lord Boxman) and Chip Damage is literally a combination of P.O.I.N.T. Prep drones, I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon. Even if Lord Boxman doesn't like Mr. Logic anymore, he probably wouldn't want "being hijacked by a heroic organization" on the records on ANY of his robots, so he would probably prevent that.
• Speaking of P.O.I.N.T., where the hell are they getting the glorbs needed for the power-ups? Glorbs are supposed to be hard to come by, so the gifted and talented glorb power-ups would either be completely impossible to practically initiate, or a blatantly irresponsible use of power and resources that could have gone into the curriculum and lessons instead, which would get Foxtail fired in a heartbeat. I’ll let you decide which it is. Oh, and please give me your answers to the question.
  • While producing glorbs isn't impossible, as it was shown that Boxman was able to build a device to produce them in one of the episodes with him and Venomous ("Villain's Night Out", I think), "Carol Quest" provides another possible answer. The glorb tree located under Lakewood Plaza that's been shown in that episode and "Let's Have a Stakeout", among others, seems to be a location that naturally produces glorbs. While is not under P.O.I.N.T.'s control, it is under their surveillance through Carol and other undercover P.O.I.N.T. members. Whether through artificial creation or through controlling other similar places that naturally produce glorbs, P.O.I.N.T. probably has a steady supply of them under control if Foxtail's using them for petty victories. As for how Foxtail's use of the glorbs would be the best for the group or not, regardless of supply? Well, Foxtail is the only founding member of P.O.I.N.T. left. Irresponsible or not, she is the de facto leader of the organization now, so no one would be firing her even if they knew and opposed it.
    • First off, Boxman uses a glorb processor, not a device that can make glorbs(though the processor is useful for making sure that glorbs have more of an effect and last longer, this would not be an option for Foxtail, as she gives the students whole glorbs instead of giving them energy via something Nikola Tesla would invent). Second, Carol watching it would probably make using the glorb tree even less likely, as she is a very dedicated hero and would make sure that they weren't used for nefarious purposes. Finally, even if Foxtail is the last original member of P.O.I.N.T., there would probably be a multitude of other people who would either want her away from leadership positions, or think they would rather be in charge for the good of the team. In conclusion, Foxtail is in an absolutely HORRIBLE position to run the school the way she is right now.
• How come Punching Judy's family didn't encourage her to use her legs instead of her fists, when it is glaringly obvious that her legs are stronger? Even if they have a strict family tradition about every member of the family being a boxer without exception, they should have at least realized that she would be more effective defensively than offensively, so what gives?
  • Punching Judy's family does seemingly nothing to stop Punching Trudy from bullying her younger sister, so they probably aren't the greatest bunch. And if Judy's brothers and sisters are anything to go by, she might even be the middle child of the family as well.
    • I didn't ask why they didn't treat her better(that part is blatantly obvious), but why they didn't tell Judy to use her legs as an advantage. Even if they are a terrible family, they should at least be good at judging talent and finding ways to box better, so why didn't they recommend a more efficient defensive style?
    • Oh... Maybe it's a case of Crippling Overspecialization, and they only know how to fight with their arms? Punching Trudy seems to have this problem to me, with her tiny legs but buff arms n' all.
    • I wouldn't say that, considering that Judy, despite being raised by those people, still knew how to kick. Also, I asked why they didn't teach Judy to supplement her boxing with footwork, not why they didn't teach her how to kick.
    • It's possible the family did notice that Judy's strong point is in her legs, but they never brought it up since she didn't (they could've thought she was trying to keep up with the family tradition as well). Another explanation could be that they did teach her... but only the basic kind of footwork. Remember that this is an Animesque show- they wouldn't know how to pull off the "super" footwork moves.
    • First off, there are a lot of anime that would pull off the "super" footwork moves you are describing. Second, if she was getting beat by her sister all the time, they could have taught her to use leg strength in avoiding getting knocked down so that she would do better, so why didn't they?
  • Punching Judy already knows how to kick and stuff. She just needed to make her legs/kicks one of her main strengths and improve on her leg work to beat her sister.
• Related to an example of Fridge Horror, why doesn't Shadowy Figure attack the plaza to get the glorbs in the glorb tree himself? He is obviously strong enough to handle everything the plaza can throw at him and then some. There is nothing to gain from giving K.O. a Superpowered Evil Side that could potentially defeat him.
  • If the theory about Shadowy Figure being Professor Venomous is true, then as Professor Venomous, he wouldn't have much free time go out as Shadowy Figure, so he would have to make the job somewhat quick. Evidence for this is how Professor Venomous stated how he missed doing villainy, but Shadowy Figure himself seems to love sneaking out, being a creep and generally doing bad guy stuff. It's just his thing. The moments when Shadowy Figure comes out to play are one of those rare times when Venomous has a free schedule. Also, we don't know if Shadowy Figure is strong enough to handle everyone and everything in the Plaza. P.K.O? Sure. But P.K.O + Mr. Gar + Enid and everyone else including Plazamo? Maybe not. As for K.O's Superpowered Evil Side, maybe he's Venomous' unfinished experiment or something and he wants to complete it. "No, K.O... We can't have you ruining all of my hard work!!!" -Professor Venomous. Maybe he was referring to K.O using his Superpowered Evil Side to his full potential rather than collecting the Glorbs? Or both?
    • Before Venomous was in control of Boxmore, I'm certain that he had a lot of free time when he wasn't doing villain business with his associates; there were multiple opportunities to attack if he wanted to(also, him being Shadowy Figure is a BIG if). In addition, P.K.O. only became a thing because Shadowy Figure made T.K.O. come out. If K.O. had been completely unaware of his inner dark side, Shadowy could have demolished the plaza and taken the glorbs without any recourse. Also, Venomous could just improve on Fink's turbonic capabilities instead of fighting an uphill battle with K.O..
    • I meant that because Venomous/Shadowy Figure(?) is a Mad Scientist, he enjoys seeing his work completed no matter how "illogical" it may seem (besides, he's a cartoon villain), sorta like someone trying to complete work they don't need to finish, but they want to anyway for reasons. You make a good argument on the other points though. Also, isn't the Plaza under protection by P.O.I.N.T? Didn't P.O.I.N.T HQ contact Carol once and asked her if they needed to send in reinforcements? I assume that since P.O.I.N.T is at least aware of the Plaza's Glorb Tree, if they were told about a sudden robbery of the Glorbs they would at least attempt to hunt the criminal down. Maybe that's why Venomous/Shadowy Figure(?) didn't just demolish it, as it would make a Big Entrance.
    • P.O.I.N.T.'s ETA probably isn't something so fantastic as to be there in time(after all, they didn't do anything about the Level 100 Darrel, T.K.O., Boxman Jr., etc.), so I don't get why he can't just wreck stuff, get the glorbs, and escape before P.O.I.N.T. can get there and track him down. Also, there are many other people to complete work on besides K.O., even actual villains who would willingly take the experimentation in return for unfathomable power. Putting that power in the hands of someone wanting to use it for good causes all sorts of problems for no reason.
• Why doesn't K.O. just wear shoes that don't require laces? There are plenty of options (Velcro, zippers, buckles, etc.), so why doesn't he choose shoes with those fastening mechanisms instead of going barefoot?
  • The Character section, explains away that he just gave up on all footwear together. But considering the fact that he's a somewhat naïve kid, he might not be aware that there are shoes without laces, so he wouldn't have asked his mum for shoes those types. Maybe in the future he'll wear lace-less shoes... Also, according to one of the notes made by the crew, K.O. has paw-feet like his mum, so it might be more comfortable for him to go barefoot anyway.
    • Then what about sandals? They seem like an acceptable alternative to regular footwear that K.O. should at least be somewhat aware of. Also, considering the various species that inhabit the world of OK K.O., I'm surprised that there aren't some sort of footwear variety for people with paw-feet (what are paw-feet anyway? Are they something that exist in our world?). Of course, Carol seems just comfortable in regular footwear anyway, so I'm surprised it would be a problem for K.O., especially when Carol's shoes don't have laces on them at all!
    • Basically, K.O. and Carol have pawish-feet, so they have feet that are almost like an animal's, which means their feet are padded. And maybe Carol didn't like shoes before but she got used to wearing them? There have been several references to her animalistic behaviours... in "Just Be a Pebble", K.O. mentions in his monologue that his mum honed her "primal instincts" into sage advice, and in the game Mr. Gar said how that howling was probably Carol's, which probably means that Carol was Raised by Wolves? Also, idk about the existence of paw-feet, but there has been a report about a wolf-boy once. I think I should also mention how there are several other characters that go barefoot, like Rex and Potato, except for Fink who does wear shoes. So going barefoot for furries/animal people doesn't seem to be a big problem at least (There probably are custom shoes though).
    • Then why didn't Carol try to get K.O. used to shoes like she was? There must be at least a few establishments that have a policy of "no shoes, no service" for sanitation reasons, and his bare feet have been shown to be hurt by objects on the ground such as LEGOs, so it would probably be a bit more pragmatic for K.O. to wear shoes than to have to deal with the various inconveniences of being barefoot. Also, while K.O. might not know of alternatives to laces, Carol probably should.
    • Carol trusts that her son is strong enough to handle it, and she is right.
• So if Professor Venomous had a Doomsday device ready to destroy congress whenever he wants to, why didn't P.O.I.N.T. do anything about it? Surely they have the technology to do so, I mean, they have a humongous laser beam that's strong enough to take out most of a large boat. Granted, they probably can't aim it anywhere they want to to avoid unnecessary destruction of innocents and their property, but surely they're technologically able enough to disable Venomous' weapon withing th their armed forces and whatnot, right?
  • The same reason the United States doesn't nuke the crap out of anyone that opposes them. Mutually Assured Destruction. Basically, if Venomous sees P.O.I.N.T. going towards his death ray, his first instinct will be to aim and fire at the poor SO Bs, like how Russia will nuke the United States if they nuke them.
• In "Dark Plaza", Carol stopped K.O. from attacking because it wasn't the "time for fighting". Why wasn't it the time for fighting? The plaza was getting wrecked, the resistance was at a disadvantage due to P.O.I.N.T., the glorb tree was getting killed, and 2 months of people's lives were lost fighting, so K.O. was in the right when he went to fight Foxtail and her goons, so why did Carol stop him?
  • Probably because she didn't want T.K.O. to be released again, despite the fact that it turned out ok last time. Or maybe she thought P.O.I.N.T. was too strong for him to handle, even with T.K.O.? They did have a disempowering ray after all, which could have actually been used against K.O./T.K.O., plus she has been shown to still keep in contact with P.O.I.N.T., so she would know how strong they were at the moment. Carol could have also been trying to keep him at the sidelines until she found the right opportunity to strike, then send him in... But if that was her plan, she should have at least told him about it.
    • Has she even seen how fast T.K.O. is? He was able to slash through Mega Darrell in an instant and keep up with Boxman Jr., someone that P.O.I.N.T. didn't want to mess with! Also, I am pretty sure that she would know how much control K.O. has over his dark side, with K.O. using his power multiple times. In short, T.K.O. was fast enough to avoid the disempowering blasts and controlled enough that they should have nothing to worry about. So why didn't Carol just let him go?
    • Maybe she was in a panic? They were under attack by one of the strongest superhero organisations in the world after all.
    • That seems like even more of a reason to let loose an absolute powerhouse like T.K.O., as he would serve as a trump card. Also, she seemed relatively calm when she stopped K.O..
• On that note, why did Mr. Gar give up after Foxtail blasted him with the disempower ray? I get that Foxtail took away his powers and that Carol lied to him for a long time, but he was given responsibility to protect the glorb tree from some people who might use it for their own selfish ends(in other words, P.O.I.N.T.)! In addition, there were many heroes with powers that could help disable them(Red Action could take the guns from the soldiers before they can react, Dendy could blow those guns the [BLEEP] up, Mr. Logic could figure out how to avoid the lasers, etc.), so why did Mr. Gar give up so easily when he had a fighting chance?
  • He was probably just down in the slumps for a while. I can imagine how someone finding out that their friend/crush sided with their worst enemy for years- the same one that took their powers away would do that to someone.
    • Then why didn't K.O. give him an inspirational speech to allow him to lead the plaza more effectively? K.O. is The Heart of the team, after all.
    • I don't remember everything that happened in the episode, but was K.O. even aware of Mr. Gar giving up at that moment? Also, I don't think Mr. Gar is aware of K.O. being The Heart of the team as he hasn't really worked with him long enough to know that K.O. could give him some good advice, and seems to only think of K.O. as a "good sport".
    • Mr. Gar didn't have to be aware of K.O.'s status as The Heart for K.O. to make the speech. I was asking why K.O. didn't give the speech, not why Mr. Gar didn't ask K.O. to give the speech. In addition, he outright said to Foxtail that she could have the plaza, so K.O. must have heard that.
    • Mr. Gar said to K.O to not stop him so maybe that's why? Or, as you said, K.O. could of heard Mr. Gar saying to Foxtail that she could have the plaza, so he didn't give a speech.
• Looking at the pictures for Laserblast, Professor Venomous, and Shadowy Figure, I just realized that they have completely different figures. This should definitely get rid of any possible connections between the three. But why didn't anyone point this out before I did? This seems like a detail that shouldn't have gone unnoticed.
  • ...How are they completely different? They all share the same voice actor, hair scruff and they have the same nose. Thats pretty big evidence to me. Shadowy Figure could just be Venomous wearing a corset, also they both have fangs. As for Laserblast's muscular body in comparison to Venomous/Laserblast' body, he could have lost weight and stopped working out. You might not think these pieces of evidence mean anything, but others like me do. As for Laserblast not being purple, there is a theory that Venomous is Laserblasts' Turbo form.
    • I seriously doubt that Laserblast would let a simple incident keep him from maintaining his physical condition, especially if he experienced active combat in the 6-11 years he's been missing. Also, I doubt that Venomous' arms could slim down and then bulk back up(there probably isn't a device that could work on the arms like a corset, as the arms are completely different from the stomach.). In addition, a corset probably wouldn't be able to make the ribcage decrease in size.
    • Considering how Laserblast could have survived the incident, he might have lost weight and stopped working out on purpose to adopt his new life as a villain. That's going into Wild Mass Guessing territory, though. As for why he would adopt a supervillain life, I think that should be talked about in the Wild Mass Guessing page.
    • If he stopped working out, then he would lose a significant portion of his physical ability, and I don't think Laserblast would want to do that, especially if he had to come up against T.K.O. later in the future.
  • "Big Reveal" confirmed the Venomous is Laserblast theory and answered some of your questions. As for Shadowy Figure, I think we can safely assume to chalk the "impossibility" of the corset to Cartoon Physics.
• How hard is it to come up with a team name? There are plenty of names the main cast could have chosen, such as: Lakewood Plaza KORE(K.O., Rad, and Enid), Plazagarde(They guard the plaza), Living Element(Psyche, Soma, and Pneuma; any of the three could apply to the main cast.), RPG Trinity(Literally Fighter, Mage, Thief.), etc., but they actually had trouble with this in "K.O., Rad and Enid". Why would they have trouble with a team name?
  • Some people just aren't that creative. Truth in Television as well, as nobody is perfect. Also, they weren't that interested in having a team name, so if they were more enthusiastic about it they probably would've came up with one. Plus, they only got a day, so if they were given more time they might have came up with another team name if they still cared.
    • Then why didn't they ask Mr. Gar or Carol for a team name? They seem like they have enough knowledge of the team to give the team name.
    • Probably because they wanted to come up with a team name on their own? Or, as I said, they weren't given more time to come up with a team name and they were busy doing other stuff, or that enthusiastic about it, but if they were given more time or had more enthusiasm then they probably would have asked Mr. Gar or Carol. Also, Mr. Gar and Carol might not be that knowledgeable in naming hero teams, as they didn't name their own team at all.
    • Then why didn't they just say that they haven't had time to come up with a name other than "K.O., Rad, and Enid"? I'm sure most people would understand that they have other things to do besides come up with a cool team name.
    • Because they didn't have to? No one was upset that they didn't have a team name and everyone seemed happy with their choice.
    • Keep in mind that the plot got kickstarted because Dynamite Watkins didn't like the name they had chosen for themselves(even though she later says that she loved the name.), so they must have felt some pressure to come up with a cool team name.

On K.O.'s Treatment of T.K.O.

• Were K.O.'s attempts to change T.K.O. actually fruitless? The destruction T.K.O. causes in "TKO Rules" would point to this being the case, but the destruction seems fairly limited compared to his first appearance and "You're In Control", where he went absolutely wild with property destruction. In fact, he doesn't even appear to have any intent to completely destroy stuff in "TKO Rules", which mainly paints him in the light of "I can break these draconian rules mom set up" instead of "I can destroy things all I want and no one will stop me!", like in his debut. So what does this mean for T.K.O.'s future development? Will he continue to improve, or will this incident convince him that it's impossible to change?
  • Just because the destruction was limited doesn't mean that he wouldn't do something major later on (he could've been "warming up" after being in K.O.'s world for a while, and he mellowed out a bit as well). There are several flashes in the episode depicting drawings done by T.K.O. himself, and one of them is... this. This probably means that he has a case of Chronic Villainy, in that can't stop his actions even though he wants too (his destructive behaviour can only be suppressed since they're K.O.'s emotions). Also, I doubt that he will like K.O. at all after being sent into his subconscious with pretty much nothing to do for Cob knows how long. So yeah, I'd say they were pretty fruitless. Maybe if K.O. picked an alternative to imprisoning T.K.O. in his subconscious things could go better but I doubt it'll do anything but cause more damage to T.K.O.'s psyche. Although K.O. did say that he was only "grounded" so... it may be temporary.
    • Good to know, but I asked about whether or not T.K.O. will think it's impossible to change. Also, I'm not sure how long he'll be able to hold a grudge, because it could get pretty boring. Also, if he wants to keep his destructive tendencies limited, he would ask K.O. to keep a sort of checks and balances on his powers, like how Alucard has the Control Arts Restriction System, instead of manipulating K.O. to let him out, leading to more destruction.
    • Oh! Maybe the idea just hasn't crossed his mind (he's still a kid after all)? Perhaps if K.O. asked others for advice he would've installed some sort of power balancer. As for how long he'll be able to hold a grudge, I'm assuming all of K.O.'s negative emotions get filtered/absorbed by T.K.O., he could hold one for a pretty dang long time. K.O. has a lot of optimism after all. Also, I dunno about you but I can keep a grudge for a very long time and not get bored of it? (btw this isn't me being passive aggressive)
    • I say that he might get bored of holding a grudge because there is nothing else to do, and it might become monotonous. Also, why didn't he ask others for advice? There are plenty of good candidates for him to ask(Carol saw something similar in Laserblast, Dendy researched T.K.O., and Enid probably read Hellsing), so it seems like something that should have happened already.
    • There's this post on tumblr basically explaining that K.O. is a control freak. Make of that what you will.
    • Then why didn't he go to a licensed therapist to give him a way to understand T.K.O.? If he thinks that discipline is a good thing, then surely he would follow the advice of an expert on psychology.
    • Uh, because he's a kid? Most kids don't think of therapy when they realise they have issues, and not everyone in the world who realises they might need therapy wants to go to therapy, or get help in general. Heck, sometimes therapy doesn't even work. Also, there might not be any good therapists around in K.O's world, considering the insanity. Plus, he's a control freak. He probably thinks that he can handle it himself. As for Carol or anyone else, they probably don't know about his control freak issues so they wouldn't think of getting him help from a therapist.
    • Why wouldn't they get him a therapist for his problems with T.K.O.? That seems like something they would want to do to help him control his powers and not rely on the aid of a known villain. Also, if there weren't any good therapists, then there wouldn't be anyone to deal with the psychological issues heroes encounter on a day to day basis, and the therapists would have to get better at helping people with their problems so that they can survive.
    • It seems to me that you assume K.O.'s friends would know about every detail in K.O.'s life, and how would they? They're not aware of his problems at the moment. K.O. hasn't been shown to want or ask for help with T.K.O.. Sure, they're concerned for him but the kid seems alright or decent from an external POV. Everyone has problems but not everyone needs therapy. Even if they did find out therapy might be the last thing on their minds. Also, K.O. has emotional support from his friends and family and the kid is doing ok. Sure they're not perfect but at least they help him back up when he's feeling down. If he asked his friends or family to help him with T.K.O. then he would, but his control freak issues are preventimg him from doing that. He doesn't see his control freak issues a problem because it hasnt been brought up, plus, why would he? Also, this is a cartoon made for kids. Yes, they tackle some serious topics but I don't think it's that deep, so we should probably relax.
    • What about his mother? While his friends might not know every detail about his life, Carol seems like the person who would know, being his mother and very concerned about his well-being. She probably wouldn't(and shouldn't) take any chances with his mental health. Also, a kids show not being that deep? Rebecca Sugar would like to have a word with you.
    • Ok, you got me there. Also, I'm honestly not sure about Carol. I agree that Carol should probably take her son to therapy, but maybe she thinks it'll be okay in the end. It has in the past, what with her finding out about T.K.O.'s existence. And who knows, maybe they have gone to therapy before but it didn't work out? Also, we're making walls of headscratchers here, so I think maybe we should move it to somewhere else like D.M.'s or something.
    • First, where can I find out how to move this somewhere else? Second, even if Carol thinks it's alright, P.O.I.N.T. probably wouldn't want to take any chances with an extremely dangerous villain being born, possibly even resorting to something more drastic than therapy, so why hasn't P.O.I.N.T. intervened?
    • Correct me if i'm wrong, but is P.O.I.N.T. aware of T.K.O.? If they (and by they I mean Foxtail) are, then they probably think Carol has T.K.O. under her control, since he's her son. They trusted her with protecting the Bodega before, so they know how capable she is of handling things on her end (and maybe Carol hasn't told P.O.I.N.T. everything about T.K.O., if at all). Also, I don't know if they're fully aware of how strong T.K.O. can become. Sure they're aware of P.K.O. and how he's able to power an entire robot but for all they know that could be all he's good at doing. Also, if it's something more drastic than therapy, then knowing how ruthless P.O.I.N.T. could be (pre-Elodie anyway), Carol might not want to resort to that out of parental worries.
    • If someone was filming the first time T.K.O. appeared(someone like A Real Magical Skeleton), or if it was caught on tape, then they would definitely be aware of what T.K.O. can do, and to what lengths he would go. Also, I don't think P.O.I.N.T. would ask for Carol's permission for how to deal with something as hard to control as T.K.O., especially since they might want to prevent him from falling into the wrong hands(ex: Professor Venomous, his father). Also, just because their methods might be more drastic than therapy does not mean that they would be painful or permanently scarring.
    • If P.O.I.N.T. took K.O./T.K.O. by force and/or without asking permission, then Carol might fight back and they could lose a valuable member. She's a Mama Bear after all. If I had a child and someone took them without my permission or by force, then I would definitely be pissed and/or at least extremely worried.
    • One hero versus dozens of heroes? Sounds incredibly one-sided and in favor of P.O.I.N.T.. Also, they probably still have the Disempowering Rays they used to take over the Plaza(After all, they could be extremely useful in subduing someone for a predetermined period of time). Not to mention that P.O.I.N.T. could simply take the issue to court. They have used the law to their advantage before.
    • Carol probably has lots of friends that could help her infiltrate P.O.I.N.T. HQ, for example Enid could use her ninja magic to help her sneak in and Carol could copy her skills when they're needed.
    • P.O.I.N.T. probably has a ton of heroes on board to prevent that exact scenario, like a hero with powers of clairvoyance, or maybe just Anti-Magic.

• Speaking of P.O.I.N.T., why didn't they have an HR Department to go to? Laserblast had major inferiority issues, El-Bow's crush on Silver Spark might have been a hindrance, Foxtail definitely went down the wrong path as far as coping mechanisms went, Greyman probably needed help coming to grips with his powerlessness, and everyone felt bad about Laserblast's supposed death, so the lack of an HR Department seems like a massively boneheaded move.
  • Well, not all of them are human. It's also possible that they just have their own equivalent which might be an ineffective or a poor one. Also, when was it mentioned that they didn't have their own equivalent/HR Department?
    • If they do have an equivalent/HR Department, then why is it never mentioned? The psychological problems I mentioned were extremely apparent, yet no one suggested going to see them.
    • It's possible that some of them did mention the HR department/equivalent but off screen. Also, just because their problems are "extremely apparent" doesn't mean they're going to suggest going to see HR/the equivalent, as per Truth in Television as not everyone in the world thinks of getting help, or even if they did, think of actually executing the plan, because it may just end up badly. It's also possible that their HR Department/Equivalent is just terrible, so they wouldn't mention it. Alternatively: such psychological problems would be considered normal to them, considering the chaotic world that they live in and the types of people that live on it.
    • First off, if such psychological problems were normal, then there would be far fewer heroes. Second, someone from the government could recommend a professional who has had great success on people with similar problems. Thirdly, why would something as important as HR/therapy be relegated to offscreen time?
    • "if such psychological problems were normal, then there would be far fewer heroes.", uhh the Parahumans and people and heroes in The Boys (2019) would like to have a word with you. Also, your argument falls flat because there are a bunch of heroes that exist in this universe anyway. "Second, someone from the government could recommend a professional who has had great success on people with similar problems." We don't know if there are people like that in this universe. Plus, I dont think governments always recommend professionals, and even if they did they clearly didn't work and/or were rejected (otherwise we'd have Ideal Hero presidents all around!). As for the HR Department/Equivalent/therapy being mentioned off screen, the writers probably didn't want to tell that kind of story, or probably thought it wouldn't make for an interesting story for the same reason why you don't see most fictional heroes go to HR or therapy. No one is perfect and seeing every fictional hero be or become a "perfect person/hero" or Ideal Hero would get boring very fast. Although Batman has probably gone to HR or therapy he still has clear psychological issues that need solving. But then, Where's the Fun in That?
    • First, there is no way in hell you could call a majority of the "heroes" in The Boys (2019) actual heroes, bar very few exceptions. Second, a majority of the heroes in this series haven't had any psychological problems that are readily apparent, and are, for the most part, regular people. Third, it would be very interesting to see the complex psyche and inner conflicts of heroes who face off against villains so different from the ones we can find in real life. Fourth, the purpose of therapy or HR is not to create perfect heroes. It is to allow people to function better in society and prevent them from getting worse. Also, someone could have a special power that allows them to diagnose psychological problems and figure out how to deal with them.
  • Everyone in the OK K.O. universe seems to be a bit comically stupid so they probably just didn't think of it. Plus, everyone there seems to prefer fighting than choosing to talk out their emotions as stated by Carol so it's possible they've been trained to fight rather than solve problems. With how P.O.I.N.T. Prep has become this seems likely. We also do not know how HR works in this universe so for all we know HR is just a wacky "fight your feelings" fantastical version of HR, which is why they didn't go, as politics in this universe also seems to work based on silly cartoon rules.
• Ok, how on earth did the Pow Card company get EN1D's card? Isn't A.U. magic supposed to be banned? Did the series' original universe branch off and created a universe where A.U. magic isn't banned or what?
  • Maybe they saw what the warlock was doing in those other dimensions and decided to create POW Cards inspired by those adventures. Also, just because A.U. magic is banned, doesn't mean that portals to other dimensions are completely out of the picture(technological methods come to mind). And they could have simply made it up. It wouldn't be the first time that they made special editions of POW Cards, after all(The various Chip Damage cards and Blue Eyes White Colewort being the standout examples.).
• Would Venomous' treatment of K.O. actually be considered abusive, or is it Venomous' attempt to avoid nepotism?
• When Foxtail said that she got her Glorbs from Shadowy Figure. Does that imply that he used her as an Unwitting Pawn?
  • Probably not. Before she was reformed and had her role taken away from her, she wasn't one to be against using shady tactics such as being The Man Behind the Man of Chip Damage's villainy. She most likely came across the Supervillain Black Market that Shadowy Figure mentioned and ordered a few Glorbs from him for Chip Damage to use.
• Why did K.O. let T.K.O. run free after "Carl"? I get that T.K.O. did banish K.O. to the subconscious, but there was nothing keeping K.O. there. There was no cage, K.O. had the elevator, and he can call back T.K.O. at any time. So why didn't he? Was he inexplicably knocked out by T.K.O.? Or does K.O. have ulterior motives?
  • Maybe he feels guilty over trapping T.K.O. in his subconscious and feels like it's his time to pay.
    • That sounds like an extremely risky move that could end with the death of his friends and family, so K.O. would probably veto that move. Also, K.O. probably thinks he did the right thing in putting T.K.O. in a wide open space where he can't injure anyone(there isn't even a cage!). So why did K.O. stay in the subconscious if he is capable of escaping?
  • Explained in the next few episodes; K.O. finally lost control of T.K.O. and couldn't recall him, similar to what happened in season 1's "T.K.O.".
    • Just because T.K.O. couldn't be recalled doesn't mean that K.O. couldn't come back to the main part of his brain. Like I said, there was no cage, and the elevator was still functional and down there.
• Whatever happened to the physical changes K.O. went through after merging with T.K.O., like the different color scheme or the fang? They are gone when he's 35+ and we don't see what K.O. looks like in between 6-11 and 35+, so we don't see exactly how his physical appearance changed over the years, so I am legitimately puzzled.
  • Are you sure they're gone? I think the changes are still there, but because he was so far away the animators didn't add in all the details. It's also possible that K.O. just got rid of those changes. A lot could happen in 35+ years.
    • What about the close up shot of K.O.'s face near the end of "Thank You For Watching The Show"? K.O. wasn't far away that time. Also, if K.O. could get rid of those changes, why didn't he get rid of them when he got control back? And I know that a lot could happen in 24+ years(remember that K.O. is 6-11 at the start of the series), but my confusion is over what specifically happened.
    • I genuinely don't have an answer for that, but I think that question is supposed to be left for the viewers to decide. For all we know K.O. grew uncomfortable with the changes, or they slowly dissipated as time passed, or an accident happened etc.. You could try asking one of the creators on their Twitters for answers.
  • Screencaps and Paint's color picker demonstrate objectively that 35+ K.O.'s headband is still purplish-red. However he's standing in bright daylight which creates the illusion it's gone back to red. As for his fang, the animation is inconsistent which side it's actually on and we only see half his face, so it might just be on the other side.
• How come Boxmore is still attacking the Plaza 24+ years after the end of the show ? As the epilogue pointed out, Boxman retired and left his kids in charge of Boxmore but it was Boxman, not his henchbots, who had a beef with the Plaza in the first place; the robots were Just Following Orders whenever they attacked. Also, in the Grand Finale, Darell, Shannon, Raymond, Mikayla, Ernesto and Jethro actually protect the Plaza together, so them sending out new robots to attack it out of nowhere seems really out of place.
  • Maybe they wanted to give Adult!K.O. an opportunity to show off in front of his employees ?
  • Or, since the robots attacking the Plaza in the future are new additions to the Boxmore crew, maybe it was just some kind of hazing ? It's not like getting blown up is more than a minor inconvenience for a Boxbot, after all...
  • This troper likes to think that it would be funny if Boxman simply never bothered to turn off the "Destroy the Plaza" function in his robots.
• In "Stop Attacking the Plaza" Boxmore specifically stated that his board of investors couldn't fire him per se. So how did they later end up doing just that?
  • Cosma has the power to fire almost anyone. Specifically into the sun.
• Captain Planet and Sonic are established figures in the OKKO universe that K.O. already has POW Cards of, so then why are the characters in "Crossover Nexus" from their own universes? Is this like Hypertime in DC, where dimensions overlap briefly and give everyone a case of Remember the New Guy?, or am I just overthinking this?
• Pow Cards are fully capable of comprehending villains, it just denotes their level with a - symbol in the front. Why, then, would Cardsley ban Pow Cards of Kappas on the condition that they supposedly cannot be heroic? If anything, they should have cards simply unable to recognize any of their good feats.
  • Did you watch the episode? It was purely racism towards Kappas.