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• Is Fiore aware that she would not be able to legally get the money due to still being a child? Sure, the money would be helpful once she turns 18 but it would be her parents who get the money (who are very clearly stated to not have the best relationship with Fiore).
• Why are minors allowed to compete in the show? At least on Lake and Maggy's case, they're 16 and 17, so they're close enough to the adulthood treshhold (and in Maggy's case, looks like an adult already) so they could be given a pass. Fiore is 6 in the first season and 8 in All-Stars, and yet, outside of a brief shock, nobody seems to have a problem with minors participating in a show full of grown ups?

Season 1

General

• Why would Tom be a contestant on the show if he's a spy and trying to keep a low profile? His mask and strange attire would give him more attention, too. Or was being a contestant the only way he was able to get onto the island? If that's the case, maybe he could've been a contestant and disappeared mysteriously to catch Jensen off guard? But then again that would make the Jake and Tom couple thing obselete, and it's gotta make sense since Aiden and James mention them being a couple.

Episode 9

• How could a show which is implied to have a really small budget afford a very futuristic virtual reality with a Year Inside, Hour Outside time passage mechanics? And with separate headsets for seven contestants at that!
  • Derek and Trevor are confirmed to have done some shady things in the past, killing animals is just one of them. They likely stole the equipment from somewhere else AND decided to use it for their show.
• In order to save Alec from elimination, he and Fiore join the majority in voting out Grett. Why exactly would they betray their only remaining ally left when, as the next episode shows, they could've caused some drama between Tom and Jake or affect the others' dynamics in any way so as not to end up being outnumbered again?
  • Grett had become a liability at that point. Sure, she had done some damage to Tom and Jake's relationship, but pulling off that trick again could backfire. Also, Fiore literally shot Grett in order to win Immunity, and that's not something Grett would let slide; better to nip this problem in the bud before it became worse.

Episode 10

• Why exactly would Jake still vote for Tom, even though he's shown willing to hear his side of the story (even if reluctantly), but is only prevented from doing so by Ellie? You'd think he'd still vote for Fiore to hear Tom out later on.
  • Perhaps he realized a little too late that he hadn't heard Tom's side of the story until AFTER he had made up his mind, and he just wanted to confirm if he did the right thing or not.
    • Except he says: "Fine, perhaps I should give you a chance to talk" to Tom right before the voting ceremony, meaning the point still stands. The only explanation could be that he believed he'd be the sole vote for Tom (or one of only two alongside Ellie) and wouldn't cause his elimination, still giving him a chance to talk later. But it's still an unnecessary risk that could be avoided by voting for either Alec or Fiore (as the rest are his allies at this point).
• Throughout the season, Fiore (or sometimes Alec) comes up with some genius master strategies. Her plan to eliminate Tom in Episode 10 is a Batman Gambit relying on Jake to vote for Tom and Tom to use his idol to save Jake, though. What if Jake was still willing to leave Tom in the competition to hear him out later since Ellie kept preventing each possibility so far? What if, by this point, after finding out her strategy and how Super Gullible Jake is, Tom was already so mad at him that he didn't even bother saving him with his idol? She didn't seem to come up with any other counter measure, meaning she'd risk competing in a tie-breaker/double elimination and leaving Tom still in the competition with an idol.

Episode 11

• Why does Miriam confront Ellie over the events of last episode instead of comforting Jake? She understand that what Ellie did was for the game, and at this point, she's the only person who Jake would be willing to listen to. Why not comfort him during one of his lowest moments instead of talking and chiding the one who made him so mad?
• Why does Miriam put any trust in Fiore when she and Jake find her in the cavern? At this point they're already well aware of what kind of person she is, so wouldn't it make more sense to continue without her rather than risk being betrayed by her?
• Why does Jake decide to rant to Ellie while they're looking for the exit, especially after she saved him from the giant scorpion? Sure, he's mad about what happened last episode, but wouldn't this be the time to actually reflect on what happened and that Ellie maybe was being sincere in her apology?
• Why does Jake even bother trying to manipulate Ellie into giving him the immunity? At this point he's made it clear he doesn't plan to forgive her, so why not just push her aside and climb the ladded to win the immunity outright?
• After pushing Jake to the ground, why does Ellie waste time ranting and tearing into Jake? She knows at this point that any attempt to talk to him will go in one ear and out the other, and there's still three other contestants looking for the exit, so why not just ditch him and claim the immunity outright?

Episode 12

• While it's true Alec is probably the strongest physically of the final 4, exactly why would Fiore agree with Miriam that he's more of a threat to her than Ellie? Firstly, if there's a jury, the biggest threat would actually be Miriam, who had made the least enemies out of everyone left. And Alec's Only Friend at this point was Fiore, so Ellie would be more of a threat. Secondly, even if Fiore doesn't account for a jury vote (or at least helpers helping in the finale), she had a much bigger chance of teaming up with Alec to take down others during the finale than any other finalist. And given how he lost his main motivation to win the show as his marriage is beyond saving, Fiore would've likely very easily convinced him to let her win once they were the final two. Or at least could've played a trick like pretending to get hurt to get his attention, then quickly try to outrun him. In short, Alec may be the strongest, but him staying would actually increase her chances of winning.

Episode 13

• While Miriam's idea to eliminate Ellie was smart, if really messed up, she didn't inform Tom of her plan beforehand. What if, having falled for it, he insisted on helping Miriam, allowing Ellie to run and continue the game?
  • In all fairness, Miriam was desperate and probably that was the first thing that occurred to her to try to slow Ellie down. She was simply lucky that everything worked out in her favor.
• Why didn't Ellie just tell Gabby to continue running to the finish line while she checked on Miriam? Or, assuming Ellie HAD to cross it, why not have Gabby be the one to go check on Miriam while Ellie continued to the finish line?
• So the end of the season has Tom and Jake decide that they're Better as Friends and leave to grow as people before they try dating again. This is cool and all, but James claims during Season 2 that the two were a couple, and none of the contestants had access to phones during the competition. This means they wouldn't be able to use them until after the season ended, when they decided to stay friends. So what happened?

Season 2

General

• Seriously, what's the thing with Nina? She seems to be alive sometimes and acts in such a way that it would be impossible for Marcus to be puppeteering her, such as when she insults Aiden for "kidnapping" her or when she takes over the show during the horror movie challenge and ties Marcus up. It's highly unlikely that Marcus would have tied himself up or gotten Nina to slap him, but at the same time, the Total Drama fandom has praised this show for being a bit more realistic, so Nina being possessed would be highly weird...
  • It's either the unrealistic explanation that she's a Demonic Dummy or a more realistic one that she's a highly advanced AI or a robot controlled by someone, potentially Chris.
• Hunter and Tess started the season fairly strategic, forming their alliance with Yul. You'd also expect a Gamer Chick Ally to have developed more strategic side to her as a result of playing so many games. However, once they're targeted at the start of the merge, they barely ever attempt to do anything about it and once they do, it's usually not as smart. What caused their Idiot Ball?
  • In Episode 7, although Tess keeps quiet about remaining alliances targeting them, they should've easily figured that Jaiden has no choice but to vote for one of the remaining trios. Yet they don't bother to persuade Jaiden that the trio of Lake, Riya, and Rosa Maria also pose a threat to them in numbers. If they were observant enough, they probably figured that Aiden had befriended Lake and wouldn't want to vote for her, but they could've at least attempted to convince Jaiden to vote for either Riya or even better, Rosa Maria (as her closer friendship with Lake poses more threat than Riya). Although to be fair, they could assume that Jaiden would prefer to ally with the trio that includes two of their past teammates.
  • In Episode 9, they actually try to fight back, but Ally only approaches Riya and tries to convince her to vote for Rosa. While somewhat smart if they noticed Riya acting suspicious around Rosa Maria all of a sudden, they would've actually had a better chance to persuade her if they suggested voting for James, as the results of the previous voting ceremony should prove to them that Riya and Rosa were fine with voting for James.
  • In Episode 10, Hunter doesn't even try to persuade the remaining duos that they need him as the deciding vote or otherwise they'll face a tie-breaker in the final four. It's true that Riya had her own plan to betray Rosa Maria, but Hunter didn't know that and could still at least try to offer his vote.

Episode 1

• Yul says that he joined the show to clean up his image after that accident involving an old lady, but how is picking on others at the show gonna restore his reputation? As a reality show, all of Yul's nasty acts are gonna be recorded and watched by his fans.
  • You underestimate the power of people enjoying watching other people be terrible. Yul was probably trying to go for an outrageous strategy that looped back into being kinda cool for his fans.
• Hunter's plan of only allying himself with Yul because his unlikability would make everyone not see him and his alliance as a threat was a good one, but if he had already heard how Yul pushed an old lady off some mechanical stairs, why does he choose to team up with someone who, as far as he knows, could actually be willing to endanger others for his own benefit?
• Why does Tess join up with Hunter's and Yul's alliance if she wasn't really interested in the game at that point?

Episode 3

• During the kissing challenge, shouldn't there be concerns that Connor and Riya, two adults, were fine with kissing minors even if it was for a challenge? Word of God is that the reason this challenge was dropped from the first season was because it would have been highly inappropiate for a six year old like Fiore to kiss people on the lips, after all...
  • To be fair, Oliver's character bio mentions he already finished high school and Yul's states he's 20 years old. It's likely that the entire cast this time consists of almost entirely young adults in their early 20s, with only slightly older Riya and much older Karol and Connor as exceptions.
    • Lake and Maggy are stated to be 16 and 17 years-old though, making them actual minors. And it's also revealed that Lake's first kiss was with Ally, who is 20...
  • It's left implied that the entire challenge was rigged, that Kristal was choosing the pairs and that the wheels were just to give the impression that the pairs were being chosen at random, so it was probably unlikely that the the crew would pair Lake with someone much older like Riya or Connor.

Episode 4

• Why does Riya swap Yul and Rosa Maria if she wished to make Rosa her ally? Considering that sending Yul to the Orange Team led to Maggy getting the boot that night, why didn't Riya instead make Maggy swap teams with Yul if she knew how horrible Yul was to Maggy, in addition to the fact she disliked him as well? Besides, swapping Maggy with Yul would surely make Rosa trust her and would likely end up with Maggy befriending Riya given how nice she is, whereas Rosa could have very well turned on her for separating her from her friends and sending Maggy's bully to her own team.
  • As Riya said, she was just sick of Yul's attitude and wanted him out of her team no matter what. And she probably didn't think about Maggy since she wanted to be friends with Rosa.
• When Kristal asks the question of who in the Orange Team underwent a sex change operation, Maggy looks a bit worried and seems to also be looking in a concerned way at Lake? Prior to the expected reveal that Aiden was who Kristal was talking about, Epileptic Trees wondered if that meant that Maggy or Lake was the trans person. Why does Maggy look like she knows something about herself or Lake if she didn't know which of her teammates was trans? She had barely interacted with Aiden, so it would have been hard for her to know that person was him, just like Rosa Maria didn't know.
  • She was probably trying to look at Lake in hopes she'd know what to do. After all, Lake is arguably the smartest member of the team right now and she and Maggy are close. If all else failed, she probably expected Lake to know something.
• For some reason, when Kristal exposes some secrets during the truth challenge, Yul laughs at several contestants like Aiden and Lake for just having their first kisses in the third episode or Rosa Maria for stealing to support her daughter, even making a racist comment about how Latinos are commonly known as thieves. However, when Kristal asks which of them underwent a sex change, Yul doesn't say anything and looks as concerned as his teammates. If he was shown to have no qualms over acting in a racist way, why doesn't Yul tease his teammates with transphobic jokes? His reaction would make more sense if he had been the trans contestant, but he wasn't, so what's the deal here?
  • Some people are bigoted/discriminitory towards certain groups but not others if that makes sense. Like for example, someone can be homophobic, but not racist or vice-versa.
  • Or maybe his reaction was out of disgust/fear that one of his teammates is trans.
• Why does Aiden quickly believe Yul when he comes to "eliminate" James? Didn't he already see what kind of person Yul was in the last challenge?
  • Aiden was dead set on getting rid of James and didn't know Yul that much.
• How was Kai able to grow out a beard so fast if between his elimination and reunion with Maggy there surely passed just a few days?
• So... Maggy's parents don't care at all that their daughter didn't come back home and instead ran away with a drug addict? Sure, Kai is a noble and kind young man, but Yul exposed his liking for drugs in the second episode and that was recorded by the cameramen.
  • Unless they've been keeping up with the show itself since the beginning, they wouldn't know Kai's a former drug addict since that was brought up in episode 2 and never again. Plus, the contestants go to a motel to stay until the end of the season, so they likely figured she just went there.

Episode 5

• Oliver claims that before Kristal decided to do the Queen's Game instead, the challenge for the day was gonna be a talent contest. When did Kristal change her mind, and why was she allowed to change the challenge?
• When the time comes for Riya's turn for pain, Kristal has her hand over her perfume, her most prized possession. However, when she has Lake, Ally, and Tess go next, she has them destroy their consoles, books, and medicine by throwing them in the fire. Since she had no intention of giving Riya the perfume back, since Riya, Rosa, and Lake go get it the next episode, why not simply force Riya to destroy the perfume by throwing it into the fire like the other three?
• Why does James poison Yul? As much as he deserved it, James had already decided to turn on Yul for his evilness, so if he planned to vote for Yul that night, just as Aiden and Lake had stated they would do, why bother poisoning Yul?
  • James was put on the spot. If he didn't spill the poison, then Yul would've noticed and called him out on it.

Episode 6

• While the match ups do make sense (Aiden and James, Rosa and Riya), why does Hunter get paired with Lake? Since Kristal knew about the fandom that Hunter X Tess has, wouldn't it make more sense to pair them up together again and pair Lake with Ally, which could potentially continue the drama with how Lake's first kiss was revealed to be with Ally's in episode 3? Or if not, why not pair Hunter with Ally and cater to that fandom while Lake joins Tess?
• Why does Hunter immediately assume that Lake might fall in love with him if they interact too much? Even if he has both Tess and Ally as girlfriends, Lake is a minor and doesn't seem as focused on romance as the other contestants. And in the case of Ally and Tess, Hunter was the one who took the first step in starting the relationship. Wouldn't simply showing himself uninterested be enough to convince Lake to leave him alone?
• Kristal opts to not sent Lake back home once she has a change of heart due to bonding with Lake over their difficult relationships with their parents in spite of the orders of Lake's father to have Lake send back to them. So why does Lake's father give up after this? Couldn't he have sent people to retrieve Lake from the camp by force?
  • It's possible that Lake's father couldn't afford anyone to forcibly retrieve her from the camp by force.

Episode 7

• For someone as reserved as Tess, why does she wear a bikini? Furthermore, why does she wear a strapless bikini, easily the most revealing one out of all female characters this season? Shouldn't she be more closed?
  • Tess has also been shown to have a "don't give a feather about anything" attitude through most of the season. She probably picked the bikini without thinking about it too much.
    • She could've still picked a swimsuit without thinking too much about it...at a one-piece or even wetsuit section (or looking those up online). It still seems rather out-of-character for her to choose a bikini regardless of its type, after all.
• Shouldn't Kristal have given the immunity to Lake in the water challenge? The only reason her win wasn't acknowledged was because Kristal wasn't looking and only looked at how Hunter did it, but Kristal didn't review the footage afterwards?
  • By that point it would've already been too late, because she'd have to review the footage AFTER the challenge, at which point Hunter would've already gained immunity.
    • She could've still done that before the elimination ceremony. For example, Chris did that in ''Food Fright".
• As they sit on the bench after losing the water challenge, Tess asks Ally about her tattoo and she mentions that she had that tattoo made in honor of her late grandfather, who was a gamer like her. If the drawing made by Ally's creator is any indication for his canon appearance, isn't it a bit strange why would Ally's granddad be a "gamer" like her if the word itself is commonly used for video game players of today's console and computer games? The guy's appearance highly suggests he was definitely no longer a teen by the time video games started becoming a popular thing around The '80s.
  • Some people enjoy playing videogames even if they aren't a part of that industry's target-audience.
• When Ally suggests quitting to ensure that Tess stays in the game, Kristal threatens to kick the two out. Wouldn't doing this have potentially altered her plans for a finale of three contestants?
  • It didn't necessarily had to result in final 2 replacing final 3. The final 3 competing in the finale could remain unchanged and instead the production crew could have just scrapped one of the other planned episodes. While it could be seen as a loss, they could also see it as something positive, given that it would save them some money on food for contestants, hotel bills for eliminated contestants, preparing another challenge, as well as paycheck for Kristal, cameramen, Marcus, interns, etc.

Episode 8

• How exactly does Karol knock the contestants out during the horror challenge while feigning to gut them alive?
  • It's likely that she merely pretends to attack them with a knife for more interesting camera shot for the show, then quickly uses tranquilizers on them with another hand.
• Even though she is deadset on eliminating James, why doesn't Karol take the chance to convince everyone to vote him off instead of Lake? If it was because Lake planned to vote her off, why wouldn't Karol go after Rosa Maria? She was the one who led the other girls to vote her off. In fact, 3 other contestants voted for him without her needing to convince them. Why doesn't she just cast the deciding vote for him?
  • While James is someone Karol has a grudge on, not only did Lake last the longest out of everyone in the challenge, but managed to keep up with Karol even during her ride away from the camp and needed to be taken by surprise in order to fall. Compared to James, who Karol got rid of pretty easily, she likely saw Lake as the biggest threat and thus wanted her gone as soon as possible.
  • The only In-Universe reason we get is that she wanted her act of forgiving James and Aiden be believable. Which amounts to nothing come next episode, but oh well.

Episode 9

• Why did Karol let Aiden keep the spider she handed him before the sled race? Both James and Aiden have a beef with her, and she did target his boyfriend last night. Wouldn't she logically think this would lead Aiden to use the spider against her?
• Though Aiden did well in stopping Karol's plans before she could cause any more harm, what the heck was he thinking when he put that spider on Oliver's head to prevent Karol from winning the immunity? Regardless of his grudge against Karol, Oliver had done nothing to him and Aiden threatened his well-being just to get back at Karol.
  • His only other option, assuming the sabotage needed to happen, was to target Karol, who'd immediately notice something was up. Basically, he was put on the spot: either endanger a person who's done nothing to him because the other option simply won't work, or do nothing and let someone who IS intent on hurting him and James continue in the game.
• Why does Kristal declare Hunter the winner of the sled race if he lost his partner during the challenge and took off his blindfold before crossing the finish line? The Total Drama episode that inspired this episode had Kristal's father disqualify DJ for doing that.
  • Hunter was the only one that actually made it to the finish line and he didn’t intentionally remove his Blindfold so this was possibly a Pet the Dog moment on Kristal’s part.
• Why did Ally insist on pulling her and Hunter's sled during the trip to the top of the mountain? Hunter could very well be the stronger one between them physically, so wouldn't it make more sense for Hunter to pull the sled?

Episode 10

• Why would Rosa Maria willingly betray her alliance by revealing their plan to ambush Hunter to the guy himself? At this point, Hunter has proven himself to be an Immunity-winning machine who's the bigger threat, and she gets along alright with Riya, Aiden, and James. Why would she risk the good terms of three people she knows to protect someone she's hardly interacted with?
• Even if telling Hunter about the ambush was necessary to clear her conscience, why would Rosa tell Riya about the betrayal moments later? She kept Riya on the dark regarding the Immunity Totem just fine a few episodes ago, wouldn't it make more sense to not say anything until she has no option but to tell the truth?
• Why didn't Rosa Maria verify if she had the Immunity Totem on her person before the elimination ceremony? It's one of the last few chances to use it and a massive target has been painted on her back. Why not verify if she had it instead of waiting for the last second to do it?
• After discovering that she doesn't have the Immunity Totem on her person, why didn't Rosa Maria either accuse Riya of stealing it or asked her where it went? The only people she told about the totem were Riya and Lake, and Lake was eliminated before the merge so it can't be her, meaning that Riya's the only one left who both knew about the totem and likely could've done something about it.
• Why does Riya reveal to Rosa Maria that she was the one who not only stole her Immunity Totem, but planted the items on her backpack to make her look like a thief? Wouldn't it make more sense to keep her in the dark as long as possible until she inevitably played the totem in the next episode?

Episode 11

• Why does Hunter go to Riya to make an alliance before the next challenge while she, Aiden and James are relaxing? Aiden and James are practically glued to the hip by now, and thus both of them would be willing to help if he asked. Wouldn't it be better to offer an alliance with two people instead of one.
• If Riya planned to eliminate James after disposing of Rosa Maria, why does she target Hunter instead the following episode?
  • It appears that she indeed aimed to do that, but changed her mind once she successfully drove a wedge between Jaiden. With them being more at each other's throats during the final challenge and with Hunter being known for constantly winning challenges (even if for contrived reasons most of the time), it indeed seemed more strategic to get rid of Hunter at this point. Plus, if a jury was involved in deciding the winner, Jaiden made more enemies than Hunter did. Although, she's still risking Jaiden making up before the end of the final challenge and she still made less friends than Jaiden and her Face–Heel Turn appears to have costed her all of them.
• How did Riya become aware of James using Aiden to gain more followers by reading about his Instagram posts? To do so, Riya should have had to get access to James' iPhone, but iPhones always have passwords.
• During the throwing challenge, Aiden confronts Riya and claims she's doing this to mess with him and James, and Riya retorts that she did nothing wrong. Why would she even humor answering back to him when she's already done what she needed to do and needed to focus on hitting Nina to win immunity?
• Following Hunter's elimination, Aiden declares that once he wins the prize money, he is gonna leave the show and never see any of his fellow contestants ever again. Yeah, Aiden had been wronged by Karol, Yul, Rosa Maria (he bought Riya's lies), Riya and possibly even James, but what about Lake and Hunter? Lake became friends with him and Hunter never did anything wrong to him; on the contrary, Aiden targeted Hunter just to prevent him from winning immunity, so if anything, Hunter should be the one with a grudge against Aiden.
  • It’s likely Aiden was specifically talking about James and Riya as he’s still on good terms with Lake in the finale.

Episode 12

• When Riya shuts the door to the cabin behind her to prevent Aiden and James from properly sleeping so she can have an advatange during the finale, why didn't Aiden and James kick the door until they broke it open, or go after Oliver and tell him to bring some spare keys to open the door?
  • It was already pretty late, and it's not like they know where Oliver and Kristal stay at most of the time anyway.
• Why are the contestants supporting finalists they shouldn't? Connor is supporting Riya because he mentions he has not watched the show since his elimination, but why didn't Rosa Maria or the others tell him about Riya's actions to ensure he didn't support her in the finale? Also, why do Ally and Tess support her if Riya voted them off in the first place? As for Yul, why is he supporting Aiden if he hates him? Sure, Yul hates James as well, but why doesn't Yul support Riya if she didn't get him eliminated? And why does Rosa Maria support Aiden if he voted her off and didn't apologize after learning Riya framed her?
  • It’s likely nobody had the right opportunity to tell Conner about Riya’s actions, Rosa Maria probably doesn’t blame Aiden for being tricked by Riya, Ally and Tess were voted off before Riya’s Face–Heel Turn so they don’t have a reason to hold a grudge against Riya, and Yul was bitter at Riya for putting him on another team out of spite.
• Yul mentions that he has gotten more followers after his elimination, but how did he gain more supporters if he tried to poison Aiden in international television? Even if the cameramen didn't shoot the moment in which he and James found the mushroom, James does confess in the elimination ceremony that Yul had planned to poison Aiden. Do Yul's followers support murderers?
• Among the patreons whose characters appear supporting their favorite finalists, Carazar Zone's Author Avatar makes a cameo. Problem is that Carazar's character is Two-Faced like his channel's logo, having one half of his face normal but the other with his skull exposed. Is Carazar a living dead in the Disventure Camp universe?
  • It's more likely just a mask akin to The Phantom of the Opera.
• Has Riya forgotten that she is being filmed? If not, why does she try to kill Aiden during the finale? She is gonna be carted to prison once the police arrive at Camp Tipiskaw.
  • If you're talking about the moment where Riya nearly drops Aiden off a cliff, she briefly looks shocked about what happened before going ahead, which isn't much better, but it at least makes it clear dropping Aiden wasn't her intention. As for the other times, considering how dangerous the other challenges have been and how, outside of the slasher challenge, everyone came out just fine, she probably didn't think death was a possibility in the final challenge until she reached the diving section and nearly ran out of air.
• Why didn't Kristal check the safety measures for the finale challenge before starting it? As seen during the climax of the finale's first part, Oliver didn't set the safety net.

All-Stars

General

• Why are the production crew so understaffed here? Kristal's the host, Emily's the co-host, Oliver watches over the challenges, Marcus and Nina man the bus, and Derek and Trevor are interns. While bigger than previous seasons, this crew doesn't break the double digit bar and are even more surprisingly small considering the show now has the budget to have a private jet pick up the contestants. How come they have enough money for that, but not enough to get more workers to make production run more smoothly?
• So, did Gabby just dealt with her mental issues offscreen between Season 1 and All Stars? They were a part of her character back then, but they haven't been mentioned as of episode 3 of All Stars.
  • It's very unlikely this is something Gabby can completely get rid of, especially considering the show's Surprisingly Realistic Outcome. Realistically, she should be able to learn to manage it at best. And as pointed out, it's only been a few episodes so far, during which Gabby wasn't even that much in the focus. It's way too early to conclude her mental issues plot won't appear this season.
  • Episode 6 confirms Gabby clearly hasn't tamed her inner demons at all.
• Why did Ellie decide to return to the competition at all? During her time in Season 1, the one friend she made betrayed her for Fiore, her teammates grew to hate her because of her ruthlessness, Jake hated her after she manipulated his trust issues to get far in the game, and she wound up losing after Miriam tricked her during the final challenge. Considering there doesn't seem to be a penalty for rejecting the invitation, since Rosa Maria was allowed to reject it no problem, why wouldn't Ellie reject it as well since she only has bad memories of the last time she was at camp?
  • Ellie is still short of money, working two jobs to pay for her expenses, specially now that she is in college. Basically she's Only in It for the Money, not because she missed Camp Tipiskaw or because she was eager to hang out with the other contestants.

Episode 1

• Why would Ally reveal her relationship with Hunter to her followers? If she's been a streamer for a while, surely she'd know that doing this would cause her and Hunter to get significant backlash, right?
  • To be fair, any of her viewers who has seen Season 2 would likely suspect they got together, especially if Hunter constantly starred in her streams. They probably wanted to stop constant questions in the comments about their relationship status.
• Why is Ellie surprised that nobody greets her when she and Gabby arrive at the jet? The only people inside the jet at that moment are Tess, whom she already met, Hunter and Ally, who have no reason to know who she is, and Miriam, Jake, and Tom, the three of whom she left in possibly the worst terms possible. Is it that much of a stretch she wouldn't be warmly welcomed?
• While it makes sense for Jake and Miriam to be angry at the interviews, why is Tom just as angry as them? Ellie brought up a legitimate point in how he, a spy who's meant to keep his identity secret, went as a contestant in a reality tv show, something he calls slander?
  • I mean, while she may have been technically been right, she still brought it up on camera (possibly international?), and called him stupid. Legitimate point or not, it would be hard not to be angry, particularly when Ellie seems entirely unapologetic about all she's said.
• Speaking of the interviews, when Ellie talks about the purple team, she singles out Ashley and how she got tricked by Fiore. Why would she begin with probably the least problematic member in a group that has Nick and Will in it, and why bring up something that affected everyone instead of something more specific, like how Ashley and Lill took Fiore's journal to try and expose her?
  • It's the same as to why Leshawna "coincidentally" only badmouthed contestants who were still in the competition by the time of "Million Dollar Babies," including Courtney who had only recently debuted. The writers only made her insult Season 1 contestants who got to return for All-Stars (sans her girlfriend obviously) because they're the only ones who can react to it. In-Universe, perhaps she just didn't think of an insult for the rest at that moment. It's not like every person always has an insult ready for someone, after all. Sometimes you forget things and only remember when it's too late. And it's probably the easiest to forget those you spent the least time with as a result of their early eliminations.
• At the end of Season 2, Connor said that he would try to help Riya get out of rock bottom, since he also came out of it but didn't do it alone. However, come episode 1, and it turns out the two haven't interacted since Season 2. So did Connor initially help Riya like he promised only for his schedule to become too busy, or did his plans to help her fell through immediately?
• Why would Riya specifically mention Yul among the alternate helpers she could've used instead of Connor? Even if he was one of her supporters, the two hate each other's guts. Wouldn't picking Yul result in a more likely loss for her?
• When explaining why she's not going with Lake to All-Stars, Rosa Maria says that she can't leave Sofia alone again. However, when she competed in season 2, she had her sister take care of her. Couldn't she ask her to look after her again like last time?
• How come James and Lake don't react to Riya's presence when they walk past her and Connor in the private jet? Aiden reacts and he has a reason, since she nearly dropped him off a cliff, but Riya also nearly caused James' relationship with Aiden to crash and burn and deliberately didn't tell Rosa Maria that Lake was being targeted, which caused her elimination. Wouldn't that justify a reaction from the two?
• Like Ashley pointed out, isn't taking Fiore away from the school she's staying at with the nuns illegal? Wouldn't this cause the show to suffer either a lawsuit or be forced to remove Fiore from the contestants outright?

Episode 2

• Why is Tom so hesitant/unwilling to talk to Jake and Miriam while they look for their camps? His relationship with Jake in Season 1 imploded precisely because the two of them failed to communicate with each other, and Jake did at least look like he was willing to discuss if something was awkward between them. Wouldn't it be better to at least try to explain why he didn't keep in contact with the two of them and get the awkwardness out of the way?
• While it's natural that Gabby might have something to say after breaking another fight between Ellie and Tom, why would she decide to use the confessional while it's raining at night? Wouldn't sleeping be a lot harder if she was wet?
• What did Fiore think was going to happen when she suggested making an alliance with Ashley and Jake? Not only did she barely interact with the two of them back in Season 1, but she insulted and demeaned them, so wouldn't they naturally be against wanting anything to do with her?
• How come Jake doesn't seem so apprehensive around Ashley? The last time he got comfortable and even bonded with a female contestant was with Ellie, who eventually backstabbed him and took advantage of his traumas to stay in the game. Wouldn't that make him unwilling or at least hesitant to be around her?
  • He likely watched Season 1 and saw what a Nice Girl she is and that she's unlikely to betray him the way Ellie did. Witnessing her interactions on the plane where Ashley was the only one to forgive Ellie for her interviews may have helped, too. While a plot of a guy with trust issues being too paranoid to make any new friends would've been interesting, it's not like he has to suspect every single person now, especially those clearly more heroic. Though only time will tell if he doesn't fall for it if one of the antagonists were to lie about her intentions towards him.
• Why didn't Gabby get a penalty or at least a disadvantage when it came to the challenge? The fact that she could get the animals to obey her and go along with her team gave the Cyan Team a huge advantage over the other teams, wouldn't that be considered unfair?
• Why was Fiore one of the attackers for the Magenta team? Everyone knows what Fiore's like, so they should logically also know that her biggest strength is her brains, not her brawn. Even if being among the ones who handled the animals wouldn't end any better for her, wouldn't it be better to give Fiore a role where she can use her brains instead of strictly relying on her minimal physical strength?
  • They likely didn't care about that, as Fiore is Hated by All, so her struggle with the challenge would just give them another excuse to vote her out. However, this still begs the question if it's the right strategy. Instead of not caring that they lose as long as Fiore is first boot, they could try to keep winning for however long possible. After all, once Fiore is out, they'd have to eliminate each other if they continue losing, so the later they'll have to vote her out, the better the chances of everyone else making it to the merge.
• Why would Jake trust Alec of all people when he tells him that Tom's replacing him with Aiden? At least when Ellie lied to him, the fact that they bonded a few episodes prior meant that Jake had some reason to believe her. Alec, meanwhile, is someone Jake knows is manipulative and is nowhere near close to, which means he shouldn't be willing to hear him out at all.
  • To be fair, Jake is a paranoid guy with trust issues. What's also making this case worse for him is the fact that he and Tom didn't stay in contact during the 2 years Time Skip, along with Tom now avoiding him. While this troper also believes Jake should take such bold accusations from someone like Alec with a grain of salt, it's not that unthinkable that a paranoid person like Jake would fall for those claims.
• Why didn't Ashley try to defuse the argument between Jake and James when it started to get heated? She and Jake had begun to bond at this point, so if anybody would listen to reason or make him think things through before throwing accusations, it'd be her.
• Speaking of Jake and Ashley, why didn't Jake go to Ashley to talk about what Alec told him about Tom replacing him, instead of heading straight to telling James that Aiden is cheating on him? He only has Alec's words and a random interaction between them to go off, wouldn't he want a second opinion before saying something he might regret?

Episode 3

• Why would Alec decide to go out to look for breakfast while it's raining? Wouldn't it make more sense for him to go out after the sun came up and the rain pellets stopped dropping?
  • It's not like Alec can predict when it's going to stop raining (unless the clouds are clearly disappearing). This risks eating no breakfast at all and being weakened at the challenge.
• When Fiore complains about her helmet being too heavy, Marcus says that he wasn't told to bring a smaller one, and would've brought Nina's if he had been told so. Two things; why would Nina, a puppet, need an air helmet if she doesn't technically need to breath, and two, wouldn't a helmet that fits a puppet's head be too small for Fiore's head?
• Why is Marcus surprised to see Fiore when handing out the air helmets? Even if he didn't see Season 1 like Kristal and Oliver did, surely he'd be brought up to date concerning the contestants and that Fiore, an 8 year old girl, would be competing, right?
• Why didn't Ally suggest/insist that Fiore join her and Hunter in search for clues when everybody split up? She showed herself to be willing to believe that Fiore might be an asset, and even if Ashley and Jake argued otherwise, would it be that difficult to convince them that having Fiore on a team might be more effective than her being on her own?
• Why is Ellie the one to suggest forming a girls alliance? The last time she was in an alliance was the one she had between Alec and Fiore, which spectacularly blew up in her face. Wouldn't it make more sense for Gabby, the more people-oriented person, to come up with the idea?
  • She's still the one more strategy-oriented between the two. Yes, she had some bad experiences in the past, but it's not like she can't form new alliances anymore, especially with kind people who are less likely to betray her.
• As Miriam points out in the beginning, Connor's the only contestant who's willing to put up with Riya's crap, and is currently the only one who's on a somewhat good note with her. She also hasn't been able to get along with any other contestant, let alone the rest of her team. So why would she decide now is the best time to break things off with Connor, instead of waiting until she has at least one other ally so that she doesn't have to go at the game alone?
• Speaking of Riya, why didn't she return to the water after Connor saved her? While Connor's air tank was damaged, hers was still pretty fine, so there was nothing stopping her except for her fear of scuba diving. And even then, why not give Connor her air tank if she's not planning to go back to the water anyway, so that her team is only one member short instead of two?
• Miriam's generally depicted as someone who prefers to play fair and only resorts to cheating/playing dirty when things become dire. So why is she willing to act as a distraction for the blue team when not only would she be helping two people she doesn't like, Alec and Fiore, but making things worse between her and Ellie, who doesn't like her to begin with?
  • As she explained, she was only doing this to keep Jake safe. It's not like Alec should even try to convince her. Magenta Team was at number disadvantage at this point, if the remaining duos on the team actually think strategically they would use Fiore as the deciding vote (as Ally even suggested to Hunter), and Fiore would be more likely to vote for either Ashley or Jake due to their past. It's understandable that Miriam would see this as a dire situation to form an Enemy Mine teamwork with Alec to save Jake. She also wasn't really close with anyone on Cyan Team, so targeting it is not out of the question for her. The only close friend she has there is Tom and she's mad at him for not staying in touch with her and Jake, so...
• Why is Hunter willing to believe that Fiore really did find the clues that quickly after Alec and Miriam tell her about them? Ally makes sense, because she had a feeling that Fiore could be a valuable ally, but Hunter has been skeptical about Fiore being anything but The Load at this point. What changed his mind?
• Why does Ellie go along with the rest of the Girls' alliance in following Miriam? Last time she helped Miriam with a potential problem, it turned out to be a trap that got her eliminated, which she herself brings up mid-swim. Wouldn't it be better to try to convince the other girls not to follow her, or convince them that it's a trap somehow?
  • Depending on how pushy she'd be about it, this could paint her as even more unsympathetic and put an even bigger target on her back than she already had. It's true that she could've simply let the other girls (potentially except for Gabby) follow Miriam while she swims the other way, though.
• Why does Lake take the huge risk of trying to convince the other girls to vote out Tom, instead of going to Tom and Aiden in order to discuss who to vote out? Her talk with them and refusal to vote for Aiden shows that her loyalty lies with him anyway, and the feeling's mutual, so it wouldn't be too hard to convince Aiden to vote with her. Tom's hatred of Ellie would also make him easy to convince to vote as long as it was against her, so that's three versus three already. All she'd have to do at that point was convince Tess, who's a friend of hers, to vote for Ellie and boom, Aiden's safe.
  • To be fair, that wouldn't work since Tess couldn't bring herself to decide between the two groups. She'd cause a tie-breaker at best, which Ellie would likely win over Aiden anyway. With that said, much like in Tess's case in Season 2, trying that at least would've been better than doing nothing.
• Why didn't Lake decide to try get one of the girls voted out? Again, her loyalty lies with Aiden, and Tom would be easy to convince to vote as long as the target was Ellie. And since Ellie had a feeling/knew that Miriam was tricking them but still fell for the trap, she could make a decent argument as to why Ellie would have to go.
  • She did, though. She asked Tom and Tess to vote for Ellie right before the voting and ended up voting for her along with Aiden. It's not like she could bring this up on girls' alliance's meeting, that'd put a huge target on her back (which she had anyway, but still). It's true that she shouldn't have waited until the last moment, risking never bringing this up at all, and should've approached the guys and Tess earlier, though.
• Why does Ellie go the extra mile to make Lake seem like the mastermind behind the girls alliance when all she needed to do was tell Tom that she was gunning to vote him out? Wouldn't tricking Lake into revealing said information be enough to get him to vote for her?
• Why didn't Tom just outright say "screw it" and vote for Ellie anyway? Unlike Lake, who he only knows from Ellie was targetting him, he knows that Ellie is both a liar and a ruthlessly pragmatic player who'd only keep him around as long as he was useful. Given he hates Ellie with a passion, this would be the perfect chance for him to get rid of her once and for all.

Episode 4

• Why doesn't anybody see what Ellie is doing when she goes to meet Alec for the villain alliance meeting? Fiore's justified since her team doesn't care about her, but Ellie just voted out one of their strongest players and got on everyone's bad side the previous episode. Wouldn't they want to make sure she's not going off doing shady business after all of that?
• While it's a pretty nice bonding scene, why is Ashley comfortable revealing the backstory of the reason she has pyrophobia to Jake? It's only been a few days since the competition started, and said backstory is one of the heaviest in the series, while Jake has been shown to be emotionally unstable. Wouldn't it make more sense to bond with him a little more before feeling comfortable enough sharing it?
• While Alec makes a good point about Fiore's team not caring if she went missing, wouldn't they still be suspicious if she left for an extended time? They already know the kind of character that Fiore is, so wouldn't her being absent for a long time potentially lead to them assuming she's trying to gain more allies elsewhere?
• Why is Ellie okay with joining Alec's alliance? The previous episode had her attempt to make an alliance of her own, which not only crashed and burned in the sale episode, but ended with the Cyan Team losing one of their members. Since this alliance is the idea of Alec, who she doesn't like, wouldn't she wanna stay away from them?
  • Her pre-merge situation is dire enough to form Enemy Mine with Alec. Keep in mind that she only has Gabby on her side, Tess already proved to be a Wild Card hesitant to take sides, while Tom and Aiden are her enemies. She could consider a different alliance post-merge (assuming non-antagonists outnumber Alec's alliance), but prior to that, she kinda doesn't have much of a choice.
• Why did Miriam think she could blackmail Alec to not target her or Jake? His alliance is primarily composed of the Yellow team members, so he has majority, and he already played her like a fiddle during the previous challenge in order to convince her to distract the Cyan Team. After that, why would he see her as a threat?
  • She specifically threatened to reveal his alliance to everyone (as she did to Connor). Ellie could easily be voted out from Cyan Team as a result (it only takes Tess's vote at this point). Fiore has better chances of surviving since the remaining duos on Magenta Team need her as the deciding vote, but if they consider her a bigger threat for the merge due to Alec's alliance, she's toast too. And depending on how many times Yellow Team loses, the alliance might have to start voting for their own members. This could potentially end with non-antagonists outnumbering the alliance by the time of the merge (also depending on how early it starts) and voting them out one-by-one as a result. So it's in Alec's best interest to keep her quiet.
• In a reverse situation from episode 2, how come Fiore wasn't sent in once during the challenge? It's not like she's particularly well liked by her team at this point, and a positive could come out no matter what: if she somehow manages to get the team a point, they just never send her in again. Same thing if she losses. But if she losses and causes her team to lose, then they all just band together to eliminate her at the elimination ceremony. Sounds like a straightforward win-win scenario.
  • She didn't even have to. Her team won before she would have a chance to participate. You could argue they could still force her to compete, but there'd be no point when everyone needs to have a turn once. Leaving her for last increases their chances to win faster, not risking one of the duos using her as a deciding vote as a result.
• Why does Jake decide to talk to Aiden about Tom in the middle of the challenge? Wouldn't it make more sense to take advantage of the waiting time in the starting line instead of while they're digging for a bag?
  • It's possible that he wanted to get Aiden distracted during the challenge to have an advantage over him.
• Why does Kristal count Ashley's bag landing outside the field after she gets hit by Miriam's sand snowball? When the bag got lost previously in one of the matches, she claimed it was fair game to get a new owner.
  • Ashley was already partway through the finish line herself, so it's different. The question could be if there should be a rule about a contestant's entire body crossing the finish line for it to count, but she was so close that it'd take seconds at worst for her to crawl/stand up and cross it.
• Why does Miriam let Alec try again for the field after his first blunder? She knows of his alliance, that he was Throwing the Fight, and that he was likely aiming to force his team to lose so she could be voted out. Even if she wasn't physically able to do it herself, can't she just suggest someone else to go instead?
  • It's true that she could and perhaps even should have tried that. But to be fair, if the alliance picked up on Alec's intentions, they could easily back him up and they form a majority on Yellow Team. Miriam's protests would most likely be in vain, unless she manages to convince the Yellow Team that it's in their best interest to lose as few times as possible before the merge.
• Why does Ellie try to argue with Riya to Let her win considering they have a villain alliance? The end of Season 2 had Riya become a person very willing to betray her own allies, and Ellie doesn't exactly trust most people, so why would she bother trying to get Riya to help her win?
• Was there a point in bluffing to Connor that Miriam and Jake were also allied with Connor's villain alliance? She could easily convince him just by saying that Riya joined, and since her original goal was so that the alliance didn't target her or Jake, wouldn't the bluff be counterproductive?
  • She wanted to crush Connor's bond with Alec with that bluff and paint Alec as someone playing all sides and therefore an unreliable member for the Villains' Alliance.
• Why does Yul assume that Connor was the one who voted for him? The two have barely interacted in the game so far, much less so in a way to imply animosity between them. Plus, even if they're in an alliance, he and Riya hate each other's guts and tend to butt heads every chance they get. Wouldn't it make more sense to assume she was the one who did it?
  • While it's true, he likely simply believed in his alliance and thought someone outside of it must have voted for him. With Miriam clearly voting for Alec, Connor was the first option he could think of. Whether or not it's believable for a Jerkass (especially one who's been betrayed by his ally in Season 2) to blindly trust his alliance members is another question, though.

Episode 5

• Why would Derek claim a host can do anything, having the final say in what challenges can and can't get approved; a mistake regarding the production crew's hierarchy that was also often seen in Total Drama? Producers would realistically be the highest-ranking crew members, thus having the final say in anything. And while the crew was even more understaffed back in Season 1, which would explain why Derek had more advantages as a mere host back then, we have confirmed roles of production crew and their assistants now, who are responsible for preparing challenges. Simply put, Oliver has every right to decide what can and can't be accepted on the show, it's his job. Kristal's job as the hostess is just to be the face of the show, explain and oversee challenges and host the elimination ceremonies.
  • Between the two, Derek seems to be having the most trouble adapting to their new life as interns and what that entails. This could be just another showcase of how he's both stuck in the past and he doesn't quite know what he's talking about.
• While funny, why would Tom assume that the letter Aiden found in the morning came from the postal service? He already competed in a similar position back in Season 1, and when letters came, they were delivered by the hosts. Wouldn't it make more sense to assume that the letters were sent by Kristal, or even the interns?
• Why does Gabby assume that Ellie would tell her about the villain alliance when it gets exposed to the Cyan Team? She's not exactly the most secretive person around, and even if Ellie was willing to tell them, the two are almost always together with the rest of the team and there's no way they'd let Ellie sneak off with Gabby after Lake's elimination.
• Unless she came prepared by arriving on the show with a note and a pen on her person, where exactly did Miriam get a pen and paper to write on? The Survivor setting of the season makes it rather impossible for her to acquire during the competition.
• Why was Fiore selected as the player for the leg race? As the smallest member of the team, it wouldn't be a problem for pretty much everyone else to outrun her. Wouldn't she be more useful during the biking or even diving sections?
• Why doesn't anybody wake up when Yul snaps after Emily throws a stick at him? He's not exactly the quietest guy around and he yelped rather loudly, not to mention that Grett is sleeping right next to him.

Episode 6

• Emily's helping Yul keep his cool together so his politically incorrect ways don't get him canceled, since his manager is helping HER with something. If Yul has such a problematic behavior without someone acting as his watchman, how was he selected as an All-Star again without the staff getting second thoughts?
  • Most likely just for the drama among the cast as well as his iconic (even if short) role back in Season 2 making him All-Stars worthy. Also for the show gaining popularity through controversy in the mindset of "it doesn't matter what they say about you, it matters that they talk about you".
• How come Gabby's okay with Ellie eating fish for breakfast? She was visibly upset when Tom and Aiden decided to cook the kitchen last episode, but she doesn't even bat an eye when Ellie eats fish with the rest of the team while she eats a tomato. What happened?
• How DID the Cyan Team even get the fish to make for breakfast anyway? Only the Magenta Team won the fishing equipment to do it in episode 3.
• How come Tess and Gabby don't have a problem with Ellie suggesting Tom and Aiden kiss during their performance, when the guys themselves are at least uncomfortable at first. Even if it's just acting, they've already seen how the game turns Ellie into a brutally ruthless and nasty person, and given Ellie's hatred for Jake, whom Tom has a complicated relationship with AND hasn't talked to yet, wouldn't this be seen as a potential setup for chaos down the line and something worth stopping?
  • They had their reservations, but ultimately saw it as just acting and trusted others would do as well. Ellie hid it behind the reasoning of a song about two couples and they're both not the brightest tools in the shed, so it's possible they didn't realize her intentions.
• Fiore refuses to sing and adds that she can't play any instruments, so Jake decides she'll be a set director. And then she still ends up singing and playing an instrument during Magenta Team's song. What exactly happened? It didn't seem like anyone on her team wanted her to force her to either sing or play during their performance when they were discussing their roles. Marcus and Nina don't seem like they'd force her to perform either. So why the sudden change?
  • It can be one of two things: One, all members to the team have the obligation to participate in some way, since every member of each team contributes to the song, so Fiore had no choice. Or two, the more the set came together, the more Fiore began to like the idea of performing, and decided to join the team anyway.
  • An update from the troper who posted the question: Ashley also doesn't want to sing but theorizes the team might be penalized if they don't at least sing back-up, which explains Fiore singing as well. Still doesn't explain playing an instrument, though. Although given how smart she is for her age, it wouldn't be unthinkable that it's possible for her to learn to play an instrument that fast.
• Why doesn't anybody try to stop Jake from taking a peek at Cyan Team's performance? Regardless of whether Ellie did something to screw with him or not, wouldn't seeing his ex-boyfriend having fun in the performance be enough to make him unstable for their own performance?
• Why does Kristal only force the eliminated contestant to help clean the mess with Trevor and not ALL of the Yellow Team? As far as she knows, any of them could've been responsible for the faulty lights, so wouldn't it make more sense, and be more practical, to make everyone clean their mess with Trevor instead of having only one help him?
• Why is Yul gung-ho on eliminating Connor during the discussion over who to vote? As he himself says, Riya's at fault for them losing the challenge, and the two of them hold the biggest enmity out of everyone in the Yellow Team, maybe even every remaining contestant left, period. Coupled with Connor being the nicer of the two and a small fry in comparison to Riya, wouldn't it make more sense to get rid of the biggest thorn on his side now and then focus on the small fry later?
  • It's likely that he just wants to stay loyal to his alliance for both improving his image as well as having strength in numbers for the merge. Voting out Riya would cause the Villains' Alliance to fall apart. Although to be fair, if Yellow Team loses again, he's likely to end up in a tie-breaker against Riya anyway.
• On the flipside, why don't Alec and Riya just decide to vote for Yul like they tell Connor? It's not like Yul brings a lot to the table to the alliance, he acts like a huge pain in the ass to everyone and makes it clear that he hates them all. Why not join forces with their one mutual ally and get rid of the most obnoxious member of their team now?
  • Per the previous example, they likely figured they have better chances for the merge by sticking to their Villains' Alliance and having as many members of it reach the merge as possible. If they had voted out Yul, they'd have to vote out Grett next if their team loses again to avoid a potential Revenge. Not to mention, the alliance could easily fall apart after the founder himself betrayed it. That'd mean that if they manage to make it to the merge, they'd have just their trio of Alec-Connor-Riya as opposed to an alliance consisting of six people. Also, Alec explains he saw it as a better option for Connor to not be around Riya.

Episode 7

• Why didn't Tom bring up the fact that Ellie was the one who suggested him and Aiden to kiss for their performance last episode? He knows that the two hate each other, and his and Jake's relationship is complicated enough as it is. Wouldn't it help to not only confirm to Jake that the kiss was someone else's idea, but that the one with the idea was Ellie, thus focusing Jake's concern on their relationship on a person he actually hates?
• Okay, so Ashley needed someone to go with her to catch fish for breakfast. However, why did she decide to leave Jake behind with Fiore? Everyone in the team already knows how manipulative the little rascal can be, and even if Jake knows better than to trust her, there's always a possibility that outside events could make Jake begin to doubt, at which point Fiore could trick him. Wouldn't it make more sense to bring Fiore with her, since it's clear that Ashley won't take her crap?
• How come Aiden's only now having the idea that Jake might've had something to do with James' elimination? If what he says is true, Jake has been glaring at him and Tom for a while, and since he's confirmed to have seen the show before, he would've seen how Jake can be irrational and impulsive when it comes to Tom. Given that he's been getting close with his ex-boyfriend, wouldn't assuming he did something to get James out be one of the first things to think about?
• Yul claims while delivering flowers to Grett as per Emily's orders that his real fans would tell that his whole lovey-dovey thing with Grett isn't his real self. If this is true, and him and Grett have been dating for a while, wouldn't these same fans try to expose the farce on social media and claim this isn't the real Yul, which could get Grett suspicious?
• While they had to discuss it eventually, why do Riya and Alec decide to talk about the Villain Alliance being exposed right after finding one of the Cyan yarn balls? It's not one of their own, so the best they could hope for is for Ellie to find it, which Is a 1/5 chance while the remaining 4/5 chances would heavily screw them over.
• Why is Alec seemingly easily swayed by Riya to start hating Connor after realizing he likely sent the letters that exposed the alliance? He spent far more time with Connor and developed a bond with him, to the point his elimination had him claim he just lost a true friend. And yet all it takes for him to flip opinions is Riya thinking that he sent the letters that exposed them?
  • Connor helped to expose Alec's Villains Alliance, which puts a target on the back of every member (some of them were already in a tight spot, but still). That's called feeling betrayed. It's like asking why Gabby makes a deal about Ellie lying to her about not being a member of said alliance even though she's her girlfriend.
• How come the Magenta Team didn't try to do what the Yellow Team and use a stick to prevent the yarn balls from crossing their goal? The Cyan Team didn't do it because they had no time and their strongest member, Tom, couldn't go, but why didn't Magenta have Fiore, who's basically useless in a challenge like this anyway, go get some sticks in order to reflect the balls?
  • If the logs were supposed to be so heavy that it'd be best to send the strongest team members, Fiore would have definitely been the worst choice to bring one with her. If anything, Ally would've been a better option, but there's still a question if she'd be strong enough to pull this off. There's also a question of how many logs were nearby. And, as even mentioned by this question, there was a matter of not having much time for it.
• Why does Jake easily fall for Ellie's trick with Tom and Aiden? Not only did he just talk with Tom that morning, who made it clear he only saw him as a friend, but this is coming from Ellie, who Jake both doesn't like and knows is a manipulative liar. Wouldn't he know better than to imply something's going on?
• Why does Aiden take the time to call out Ellie over her dirty trick? He saw how unapologetically ruthless she can be back in Episode 3 where she voted out Lake, and it's made clear that Ellie doesn't care so long as her team wins.
• Why didn't Jake open up to his issues with Ashley by saying he talked to Tom that morning? As of this point, the Aiden X Tom drama has been the only thing they've discussed, and this is a new layer to it. Wouldn't Ashley be more open to hearing about him and Tom finally talking than yet another assumption that him and Aiden have a thing?
• Likewise, why does Jake suddenly start thinking that Ashley's ditching him for Ally? The two girls have only been talking once in a while since Hunter was eliminated, while Jake and Ashley have been together since practically day one. Since he also knows from seeing Season 1 that Ashley's a much nicer person than Ellie ever was, wouldn't it make more sense to think she and Ally are just friends?
  • As always, Jake is a paranoid person, this alone can be enough. Then there's the fact that Ashley's been neglecting him in this episode, choosing to partner up with Ally over him twice, along with Fiore obviously playing up the seeds of this specific insecurity in his head. Plus, Ashley and Ally have a chance to bond closer over girl talk. Jake is quite understandably worried Ashley might develop a closer friendship with Ally than him, which isn't looking good for him if his team ever loses again. The fact that Ashley is Jake's Only Friend left by this point only makes this worse for him. Basically, it's a similar situation to Riya's insecurity that Rosa Maria preffered Lake over her back in Episode 8 of Season 2.
• After Fiore gets eliminated, Ashley celebrates by saying that they "used her and got rid of her" when they no longer needed her. Question is, when did the team decide to use Fiore? If there's anything that's made clear about the demon child is that she's basically useless in most challenges, and the few in which she did participate like the musical and diving one, she was left to her own devices.
  • She and Jake used Fiore as the deciding vote to eliminate Hunter at their previous elimination ceremony, then ditched her in this one. Hence "used her and got rid of her".

Episode 8

• Why does Ally bite back when Jake tells her he wants to be alone by bringing up how he lost them the previous challenge? Wouldn't her experience with Hunter let her know that doing this is bound to cause a conflict between them?
• What was Emily expecting when she thought of the picnic idea with the paparazzi? She already knows how cranky Yul can be, wouldn't being forced to go to an arranged date and having paparazzi pester him and his supposed girlfriend logically piss him off enough to decide he's done with her?
• Yul claims he'd never cuddle with Grett when Emily suggests the idea. However, during episode 2, Grett cuddles up to him in the campfire and not only does he allow it, but smiles in doing so. So what gives?
  • Series Continuity Error.
• In what universe can an intern like Trevor be paid enough so that taking a part of it allows his boss to rent/buy a spaceship?
  • To be fair, it seems like the spaceship was more like a replica, something like in 2008: A Space Owen. Still, it is true that the replica seemed so advanced that it shouldn't be possible, especially since Kristal herself mentions they couldn't afford sending them to space with an ex-convict's salary. What's more, contestants, especially smarter ones like Alec or Ellie, should've questioned or at least suspected her initial explanation while announcing the challenge since the very beginning.
• What are the chances that the stuffed doll Gabby wanted to give to Ellie ALSO happened to be the one with the clue in it?
  • It's possible that all toys had the same clue attatched to them. Finding the required location and then playing the game to get just one toy would've already been very time-consuming and hard. Attatching the clue to just one toy would've outright made this near impossible for the Cyan Team, so it's likely the crew made it easier for them to keep their chances fair.
• When Grett suggests going up the air vent to get the clue, Yul mockingly suggests they need someone more athletic. Wouldn't he realize this would be him, since he's the only member of the team with spicy abs, not to mention more fit than Grett by default?
• Tom and Aiden celebrating the fact that Ellie's out makes sense, since they don't like her. But why celebrate right in front of Gabby while she's still trying to process the fact that her girlfriend just got eliminated?
  • To be fair, it was likely in the heat of the moment and Aiden isn't even close to Gabby. Granted, they could've had more tact, but it's possible they just didn't care since eliminating Ellie was bound to put them on bad terms with Gabby anyway.